A 90-year-old great-grandmum has become Britain’s 'oldest female drummer’ - after getting lessons from one of Simply Red's original members.
Barbara McInnis felt like she was 'rolling back the years' thanks to her tutor Chris Joyce, 66, who starred in the legendary pop group from 1985-1991.
The retired head teacher admitted she wasn’t familiar with Simply Red when she first booked lessons with the famous percussionist six months ago.
But she’s since been influenced by Chris’s playing - whose work features on the band's hit singles ‘Holding Back the Years’ and ‘If You Don’t Know Me By Now’.
Widowed great-grandmum-of-ten Barbara, who is now in three different groups, said drumming had brought “genuine joy” back into her life.
She said: “It’s helped me roll back the years… It’s given me a new lease of life, a new interest, which I think is good at my age. It’s keeping me young.
“It has brought genuine joy back into my life, and I think it has removed a few wrinkles.
“I was brought up on classical music, I was more interested in Messiah, and a bit of Fauré, and choral society work. I wasn’t really interested in modern pop stuff.
“Then I found Simply Red, but I’m ashamed to say it didn’t really mean a lot to me.
“Of course, I listen to it now. I’m a cross between Chris [Joyce] and Ringo Star - but I’m not after Ginger Baker.”
Barbara, who lives in Morecambe, Lancs., said she decided to take up drumming in her late 80s after she dabbled with percussion instruments in her local Ukulele band.
But she was stunned to find gold and platinum records lining Chris's walls when she first visited his studio, close to the town's seafront.
When she later learned that he'd played in one of Britain’s most successful pop bands, she admitted to feeling ‘nervous’ about getting behind the kit.
But Barbara has come on leaps and bounds under his expert tutelage and now loves to play along to rock and pop classics - from Chuck Berry to The Beatles.
She said: “When I looked at all these gold, platinum records, I felt in awe.
"And I was very nervous the second time I came for a lesson. I felt, ‘Oh my goodness me’. And I was really shy.
“But he’s a great tutor, he starts you absolutely from scratch. Within a week or two, providing you practice, it’s amazing what you can do.”
“I like [to play to] Octopus’s Garden, that’s one of my favourites - and Johnny B. Goode.”
Chris said Barbara - known as Babs - was one of his best students and felt her commitment to learning a new instrument was inspirational.
He said: “She’s a great student because what she does is go away and practice what I show her, which is all you can ask any student to do.
“Babs often sends me videos with what she’s up to with her practice for me to review and comment on.
“At her age, it’s inspiring for me and it’s inspiring for a lot of people that she’s so enthusiastic and has so much energy.”
Chris, who grew up in Manchester and has also played in the bands Pete Wylie and The Mighty Wah! And DoveTales, still fondly remembers his time in Simply Red.
He said: “It was incredible, it was very memorable. I reached a stage that I’d been working towards for many years, as an up-and-coming musician.
“I’ve travelled in the back of a transit van and pushed it along the road - to travelling in luxury as well, doing amazing concerts all around the world and big tours.
“I’ve experienced all levels of the music industry.”
Barbara currently plays with three groups: D'Ukes of Lancaster Ukulele Band, Morecambe Ukulele Club and Garstang Ukulele Group.
And Chirs encouraged anyone taking up the drums to begin playing with bands as soon as possible - while also sharing three pieces of wisdom.
He said: “The first thing is to turn up on time, turn up sober, and make sure you get along with people.
“Sometimes it’s the people who’ve got the best attitude, and not necessarily the best players, that get along well.”
Barbara McInnis felt like she was 'rolling back the years' thanks to her tutor Chris Joyce, 66, who starred in the legendary pop group from 1985-1991.
The retired head teacher admitted she wasn’t familiar with Simply Red when she first booked lessons with the famous percussionist six months ago.
But she’s since been influenced by Chris’s playing - whose work features on the band's hit singles ‘Holding Back the Years’ and ‘If You Don’t Know Me By Now’.
Widowed great-grandmum-of-ten Barbara, who is now in three different groups, said drumming had brought “genuine joy” back into her life.
She said: “It’s helped me roll back the years… It’s given me a new lease of life, a new interest, which I think is good at my age. It’s keeping me young.
“It has brought genuine joy back into my life, and I think it has removed a few wrinkles.
“I was brought up on classical music, I was more interested in Messiah, and a bit of Fauré, and choral society work. I wasn’t really interested in modern pop stuff.
“Then I found Simply Red, but I’m ashamed to say it didn’t really mean a lot to me.
“Of course, I listen to it now. I’m a cross between Chris [Joyce] and Ringo Star - but I’m not after Ginger Baker.”
Barbara, who lives in Morecambe, Lancs., said she decided to take up drumming in her late 80s after she dabbled with percussion instruments in her local Ukulele band.
But she was stunned to find gold and platinum records lining Chris's walls when she first visited his studio, close to the town's seafront.
When she later learned that he'd played in one of Britain’s most successful pop bands, she admitted to feeling ‘nervous’ about getting behind the kit.
But Barbara has come on leaps and bounds under his expert tutelage and now loves to play along to rock and pop classics - from Chuck Berry to The Beatles.
She said: “When I looked at all these gold, platinum records, I felt in awe.
"And I was very nervous the second time I came for a lesson. I felt, ‘Oh my goodness me’. And I was really shy.
“But he’s a great tutor, he starts you absolutely from scratch. Within a week or two, providing you practice, it’s amazing what you can do.”
“I like [to play to] Octopus’s Garden, that’s one of my favourites - and Johnny B. Goode.”
Chris said Barbara - known as Babs - was one of his best students and felt her commitment to learning a new instrument was inspirational.
He said: “She’s a great student because what she does is go away and practice what I show her, which is all you can ask any student to do.
“Babs often sends me videos with what she’s up to with her practice for me to review and comment on.
“At her age, it’s inspiring for me and it’s inspiring for a lot of people that she’s so enthusiastic and has so much energy.”
Chris, who grew up in Manchester and has also played in the bands Pete Wylie and The Mighty Wah! And DoveTales, still fondly remembers his time in Simply Red.
He said: “It was incredible, it was very memorable. I reached a stage that I’d been working towards for many years, as an up-and-coming musician.
“I’ve travelled in the back of a transit van and pushed it along the road - to travelling in luxury as well, doing amazing concerts all around the world and big tours.
“I’ve experienced all levels of the music industry.”
Barbara currently plays with three groups: D'Ukes of Lancaster Ukulele Band, Morecambe Ukulele Club and Garstang Ukulele Group.
And Chirs encouraged anyone taking up the drums to begin playing with bands as soon as possible - while also sharing three pieces of wisdom.
He said: “The first thing is to turn up on time, turn up sober, and make sure you get along with people.
“Sometimes it’s the people who’ve got the best attitude, and not necessarily the best players, that get along well.”
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00:00 [drumming]
00:16 I'm Barbara McInnes, reputed to be the oldest lady drummer in the UK,
00:21 although, or maybe Europe, though I haven't Googled myself yet.
00:25 [silence]
00:36 It's a first for me, and at 90, let's face it, you know, 90, you're, you're,
00:42 I'm lucky to be alive, I never thought I'd live this long,
00:46 from the thought of being a frightened little child in the air raid shelters in Kent,
00:51 to a 90-year-old playing drums with one very famous drummer, i.e. Chris Joyce,
00:59 and he brought joy, as I had to say quite often, into my life.
01:03 No, it's fabulous, actually, quite fabulous.
01:06 [silence]
01:13 What I really like, having been classically trained, I say, while singing,
01:18 I like Folsom Prison Blues because I have a gun, and I can, I bang, bang, you know,
01:23 I shot a man in Reno just to saw him die, bang, bang, I've got it in my bag,
01:27 but I won't bring it out, and also, to the irritation of Morecambe Ukulele Club,
01:32 the Fields of Athenry, which has got about 25 verses, and they groan when I choose them,
01:39 but it's a lovely tune, it is, but there are others, lots of others that I like.
01:44 [silence]
01:51 Well, I wouldn't exactly say I take after Ringo, but, you know, I've always thought he was a nice lad,
01:57 because, you know, although he's about 83, I always thought Ringo was a nice lad,
02:01 but drumming now, I mean, let's be honest, Chris Joyce, I mean, what a virtuoso.
02:07 We should be on the Palladium, Chris and me, definitely.
02:11 [drumming]
02:22 How has it changed my life? It has, actually, because at 90, one usually sits and does a bit of sewing,
02:28 which I'm a quilter, it's a hobby, it's just, I don't know, it's just brought life, and I said joy,
02:34 because I'd had a miserable two years, and then suddenly, yeah, it has,
02:40 and I keep saying joy, but it's true, and of course it's in Chris's name, Chris Joyce,
02:45 that's why it's got his name in there, Joyce, it should be in capitals,
02:48 he should be on the Palladium, absolutely.
02:51 [silence]
03:03 Who, what, 90-year-old gets photographed for what she does, mostly, you know,
03:11 like that, you know, and it's a bit like that, you know, and another shawl,
03:17 I wondered about whether she'd put a shawl on, you know, but I haven't.
03:21 So, no, of course it has, it's transformed it, absolutely transformed it.
03:25 [silence]
03:30 Oh, for me, it's paradise, absolute paradise.
03:33 You come in and I didn't know what to expect.
03:35 It's in the West End of Morecambe, and suddenly there's the lights,
03:40 there's silver discs, platinum discs, there's drum, it's fantastic.
03:46 Of course, Chris with a big smile on his face, he's always ready to greet me with a smile.
03:51 [drumming]
04:02 [laughter]