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00:00 (cash register dings)
00:03 - Do your Oscars sleep together or where do you put them?
00:07 - No, I mean, they're in a place, you know,
00:08 the first week, I think I told you this,
00:11 that the first week when I won,
00:14 I used to take it with me everywhere.
00:15 I took it to the beach.
00:16 - Right, I know.
00:17 - Because I just could not believe that was mine.
00:20 (upbeat music)
00:22 - You should assign me control of your stock
00:27 and the company and the freehold so I can deal.
00:30 - Because Henry Ford won't deal with a woman.
00:34 - No, because if it comes to a deal,
00:39 it'll be hard and fast.
00:41 I have to have all the cards in my hand.
00:43 - Well, half the cards are in my hand.
00:45 - Laura, what do you want me to say?
00:47 Mr. Ford, we have a deal,
00:49 but first I must wait until I ask my wife for permission?
00:52 - Yes, you can say that.
00:54 (glass clinking)
00:56 - You know what?
00:58 I'm gonna give you power of attorney over my stock
01:02 so you can deal.
01:03 For half a million dollars.
01:09 - I don't have half a million.
01:11 - You will if you make a deal.
01:13 - Welcome to the actor's side
01:16 and welcome back to the actor's side, Penelope Cruz.
01:20 Thank you for joining us.
01:21 - Thank you, thank you.
01:22 Nice to see you.
01:23 - Always nice to see you
01:24 and so excited to talk to you again
01:27 because your latest film, "Ferrari,"
01:30 just, boy, you just pop off the screen in this.
01:33 - Thank you. - And it's such
01:34 a great character.
01:36 - Thank you.
01:37 - And really spectacular.
01:39 Of course, four times nominated for Academy Awards,
01:43 an Oscar winner.
01:44 You've sort of done it all.
01:45 In fact, I was looking at some of your credits today
01:48 and the melodramas, the dramas with Almodovar
01:52 and so many others, comedy, musicals like "Nine."
01:56 We've talked about "Nine" before.
01:58 Action, "Pirates of the Caribbean,"
02:01 movies like "Murder on the Orient Express."
02:03 You do it all.
02:04 Every genre, I think, you've chackled.
02:07 - I feel very lucky because I'm such a big fan of cinema,
02:11 like you are, that to be able to touch each genre
02:16 or one that I don't think I will touch is horror film.
02:19 - Oh, really?
02:20 - Because I cannot even see them.
02:22 (laughing)
02:23 They affect me a lot.
02:25 - Wow.
02:26 - I love thrillers, but horror or like hardcore,
02:30 gore, is not really my thing.
02:32 - That's interesting.
02:33 - Yeah, but all the other genres or most of them,
02:36 yeah, even action film.
02:39 - Right.
02:39 - I've done a couple.
02:40 - Yeah.
02:41 - Drama is my main attraction.
02:46 But I love comedy and I love musicals.
02:48 - Yes.
02:49 - I'll do a musical soon and I would love to share
02:53 with you what it is, but I can't yet.
02:54 - Really?
02:55 - Because we're putting all the pieces together now.
02:58 But I also love comedy so much and it's so hard to find.
03:01 - And you're so good at it.
03:03 I mean, really, the one you won the Oscar for,
03:07 the Woody Allen film, "Vicky Cristina Barcelona,"
03:09 was just brilliant timing and everything.
03:12 It's not a surprise that you won an Oscar for that.
03:15 Comedy is tough though, right?
03:17 - Yeah, it's not an easier genre.
03:19 It's so tricky, but I love it.
03:22 It's like it's music.
03:23 - Right, yeah.
03:24 - I love it.
03:25 I think every genre has its thing.
03:28 Nothing is easier and we cannot underestimate a genre.
03:33 - Yeah.
03:33 - I mean--
03:34 - But you did nine and that was another Oscar nomination
03:36 for you out of that whole cast.
03:38 You were the one that got nominated.
03:40 - I couldn't believe it.
03:42 - Really?
03:42 - I could not believe it.
03:43 I didn't expect it at all.
03:45 The phone rang at six in the morning
03:48 and it was my agent from Spain.
03:50 And I was like, "What are you saying?"
03:53 I could not believe that.
03:54 - Wow, why were you so surprised?
03:56 - I don't know because, I don't know, but I truly was.
04:00 It's better to be surprised.
04:02 It's the kind of thing that you should never expect.
04:05 - That is true, you know?
04:07 And you never walk into a film going like,
04:10 "I'm getting nominated for this."
04:11 - No.
04:12 That is not even ethical.
04:14 - Yeah.
04:15 - We are so lucky to be able to make a living
04:18 out of this profession.
04:20 I know so many actors that are very talented
04:24 and that are waiting for their phone to ring
04:26 and really struggling.
04:27 And even now with everything that we went through
04:32 with the strike,
04:33 I felt so bad for so many people that were starting
04:40 to lose their homes and really struggling
04:42 through this situation.
04:44 So I never took it for granted,
04:47 the fact that I can actually make a living
04:50 out of something that is my passion,
04:51 something that I love so much since I was a little girl.
04:54 There is no one day that I don't value the opportunity
04:58 of calling this my profession.
05:01 It was a dream that I had when I was a little girl
05:04 that was like saying, "I want to go to the moon."
05:06 We didn't know anybody that could make a living
05:10 out of something related to art.
05:12 - Yeah.
05:13 - I just didn't know those people.
05:14 - So you always had it as a little girl?
05:16 - Yeah, as a dream, as a fantasy.
05:18 Yeah.
05:19 - And then it started happening for you at a very young age.
05:22 - I looked for it.
05:23 I mean, I was dancing ballet since I was four
05:26 and I channeled all this energy through there
05:29 because it was also acting in a way.
05:32 But then when I was like around 14, I looked for an agent
05:36 and I started to study theater.
05:38 And then I found an agent and she started to send me
05:41 to castings and to my surprise, I got some yeses.
05:45 I could not believe it.
05:47 - Wow.
05:48 And then of course, big break with Pedro and-
05:51 - And before that with Fernando Treva
05:53 and with Biggish Luna and I was very lucky.
05:55 - And then, and it's so great to have that kind
05:57 of relationship with a director, you know,
05:59 that you've been able to do your whole career.
06:02 - With Pedro, yeah, we've done seven movies together
06:05 and I hope many more because it's like nothing compares.
06:09 It's just so unique.
06:11 I mean, you know him.
06:12 I've talked to him many times.
06:13 He's very, such a unique human being.
06:17 - He's an amazing writer of roles, great roles for women.
06:21 - Mm-hmm.
06:21 - You know?
06:22 - Yeah, yeah, he loves women.
06:23 He understands and respects women
06:25 and he's constantly doing a beautiful homage
06:28 to what a woman is.
06:30 And I feel like Michael did something very similar
06:34 with this character.
06:35 I think like he wanted to give a voice to this woman
06:40 that didn't have one.
06:42 - Especially in 1957, you know, and here she is.
06:46 She owns half this company, Ferrari.
06:48 That's a powerful position
06:50 and it's a very difficult position for a woman,
06:54 as it turned out, you know, to get the attention of these,
06:58 all these men and that whole world, I think.
07:00 - Yeah, and it's amazing that even today,
07:04 you would walk around Modena and ask people about Laura
07:07 and their reaction was very negative.
07:09 It was like, they were telling them,
07:12 do you know that this woman actually was one
07:14 of the first investors in the company?
07:16 - Yeah.
07:17 - Because they had nothing and she sold something,
07:19 I think it was a jewel, something very valuable
07:22 and she sold it and put it into the company.
07:24 - Yeah.
07:24 - Maybe that is not a lot, but it was a lot at that point
07:27 when they had nothing.
07:28 Maybe Ferrari would not have happened without that gesture.
07:32 And so many other times she saved the company
07:34 because she considered it her own also
07:37 because she was not the engineer,
07:39 but she was there from day one
07:42 and she was the one controlling the finances.
07:44 - Right.
07:45 - And she knew that she was great at that
07:46 because she could read people from a mile away.
07:48 - Yeah, she's great.
07:50 - The people didn't wanna give her that, even today.
07:53 When I was talking, even talking to strangers,
07:56 I would ask them about Laura and they just said,
07:58 she was crazy, she was difficult, she was a witch,
08:01 she was scaring people.
08:02 And then I started to read more about her
08:05 and got closer to people that really, really knew her
08:09 and loved her, like their doctor.
08:12 - Yeah.
08:12 - I spent a lot of time with their doctor
08:15 who was also their friend.
08:17 - Wow.
08:18 - And saw them every week.
08:19 And after he started to trust me,
08:21 he shared with me letters, love letters
08:23 between Enzo and Laura.
08:24 - Oh, wow.
08:25 - And I got so much information about who she was
08:28 and who he was and their relationship
08:31 and the deep love that was there between each other.
08:34 - Yeah, it was something broken
08:36 to have a healthy relationship
08:37 they were not gonna have anymore.
08:39 - Right.
08:40 - They could not survive the loss of a child,
08:41 which happens to so many couples
08:44 that have been in that situation.
08:47 And also the fact that he had another wife and another son
08:50 and most people knew, but she didn't.
08:52 - But that's just like, oh my God, you know,
08:54 it's shocking that that went on and that she didn't know.
08:59 - She didn't know for so long.
09:00 I always wonder how could they all kept it from her
09:05 and what a general betrayal, you know?
09:08 So many people talking to her every day
09:10 and hiding that, you know,
09:11 they knew there was an entire other family happening
09:16 half an hour away from where they lived.
09:18 And I started to really get this personal need
09:23 of giving her a voice because,
09:26 and I know Michael doesn't look like a romantic
09:29 on, but I realized that he was writing a love letter
09:34 to this woman and to all the women in similar situations.
09:38 So for the two of us became like a personal battle of,
09:42 we have to give her a voice that is fair
09:44 because it represents this like subterranean group
09:48 of women still today in so many places around the world
09:51 that are suppressed and repressed by society,
09:56 like living in the shadow of men.
09:58 And even in our industry,
10:00 everyone loves to keep saying that there is equality
10:03 and that, yeah, things have changed so much,
10:05 but we know that's not true.
10:08 It's not true and we are far from that.
10:11 To change it, we need to start calling things by their name.
10:15 We cannot keep saying that things have changed
10:17 when they haven't.
10:18 - Right.
10:19 - They really haven't.
10:20 - Yeah, they've tried.
10:21 They've had, you know, I mean,
10:22 it has changed a certain degree,
10:24 Me Too movement and other things changed
10:26 the way Hollywood operates.
10:27 - In that way, yes.
10:29 And that was like the most urgent part of it.
10:32 But there are so many other things where still
10:34 women in most professions in the world,
10:38 but also in ours,
10:39 there is that equality is still a fantasy
10:42 and it's far from real.
10:44 So that's why, you know,
10:45 to have that extreme in a character like Laura
10:48 that represents that struggle
10:50 that is still very present everywhere in the world.
10:53 - It's amazing.
10:55 You see in the film that Enzo actually defends her,
10:58 you know, when they say,
10:59 oh, you know, she's bad news.
11:01 You can see the love.
11:05 - Yeah, even if he's a liar
11:07 and he is betraying her and not sharing with her,
11:10 oh, I have another family that you don't know about.
11:13 He's trying to give her a place,
11:15 fighting all these other men that are telling him,
11:19 she can have that power.
11:20 You have to get that from her.
11:21 He can do that because he remembers the beginning
11:25 of Ferrari, the beginning of the company,
11:27 how if she wouldn't have been there with him,
11:30 creating this together and supporting him,
11:32 maybe it wouldn't have happened.
11:35 So she knew that he knew that.
11:38 - Exactly.
11:39 I heard, it's not in the movie,
11:40 but that she used to sleep near the tires.
11:44 Is that true?
11:45 That sounds so crazy.
11:46 - I love it.
11:47 I love it because they were very similar
11:51 in terms of like a very kind of an obsessive behavior
11:56 in everything related to the company.
12:00 And that was like a big part of their connection.
12:03 And I said to Michael, I said,
12:05 wouldn't it be great to have that in the movie?
12:08 And there was no place for that,
12:10 but it was very helpful for me to know
12:13 that she was, a few times she slept with the tires
12:17 to make sure that nobody would ruin them
12:20 or steal them.
12:21 - Right.
12:22 - She really felt that the company was another one
12:28 of their babies.
12:29 - Yeah, right.
12:31 - And it's heartbreaking because she's there,
12:33 it's the only thing that makes her go through the day.
12:38 She has to go there and pay people and control
12:41 and she has something to do that is also her own.
12:45 It was her own project from day one.
12:47 Apart from that, she's dead.
12:49 She's dead inside.
12:51 - It gave her that power that she used so effectively though
12:56 that got her through here in a lot of ways.
12:59 I saw this movie in Michael Mann's office.
13:03 - Me too.
13:04 - Did you?
13:05 - Yeah, with him sitting right here.
13:06 - Yeah.
13:07 - Right here.
13:08 - It's literally the screen is here.
13:10 - Yeah.
13:11 - And there's like two seats.
13:11 - He said, why didn't you tell me
13:13 if I could have left the room?
13:15 I said, no, because I wanted you to be there with me,
13:17 with me and my husband.
13:19 But at the same time, it made me very nervous
13:22 because I know you were there watching
13:23 every one of my reactions.
13:25 (laughing)
13:27 He's incredible.
13:28 He's like really into every detail on a level
13:33 that I have never seen before.
13:34 - It's surprising to me too because he's, you know,
13:37 he became so well known for Miami Vice
13:39 and these kind of movies and things,
13:42 but he really is a great director of women as well.
13:45 - Yes, yes, yes, yes.
13:46 - With me, he was great.
13:47 And I watched him to see how he was with the actors that,
13:52 you know, the ones that come for just one day or half a day.
13:56 - Right.
13:57 - It's amazing and that says so much about him.
13:59 I think that is his favorite department
14:01 is the actors and actresses,
14:03 and he loves and respects acting very much.
14:07 - Yeah.
14:07 - And he can give you treasures, you know,
14:09 like the things that he would say to you before a scene
14:12 and to make you try different things.
14:14 And sometimes we would do 30 takes,
14:17 other times it would be three or four
14:20 until he knew he got it.
14:21 If you try to sell him something else, he would listen.
14:24 But if he was looking for something else
14:26 and you try to sneak in,
14:28 you would be there for three days nonstop
14:30 until he got what he wanted.
14:32 And I respect that because he gives so much.
14:37 He expects that from everyone in every single department
14:40 because he's giving his everything.
14:42 It's like, I feel very similar about Pedro's way of working.
14:47 - Yeah.
14:48 - And when you see a director giving that much,
14:53 I've been very lucky to work with many that are like that,
14:56 but I cannot say everyone is like that.
14:58 So you give them, you see them giving so much
15:02 and you want the same.
15:03 You want to go home at the end of the day
15:04 feeling that at least you tried to give 100%.
15:08 And I never saw him complaining once.
15:11 It was like 42 degrees in August.
15:16 We were all wearing the winter clothes
15:18 and Adam, the prosthetics, and I was with the wig.
15:20 But Michael, so many times was like,
15:23 get the camera over the shoulders, setting up a shot.
15:28 He was there like one hour, like nonstop
15:32 of like a millimeter of difference in a shot means something.
15:36 - Wow.
15:37 - That millimeter means something for him.
15:39 And I respect that way of working so much.
15:42 - I have seen a lot of race movies, car movies and things.
15:47 This one shocked me.
15:49 I had no idea of that crash, that major crash.
15:53 And it's so visceral.
15:55 - Yeah.
15:55 - The way it's presented in this movie that, you know,
15:58 it has the power to just like blow you away
16:01 when you're watching it.
16:02 It was just shocking.
16:02 - Yeah, I agree.
16:03 Because I was not there when they shot that.
16:05 And I knew he was going to shoot it in a realistic way,
16:08 but I was also very shocked.
16:10 And I think it's important that it's shown that way.
16:15 It's not gratuitous.
16:16 It's like those guys were really risking their lives
16:19 and 50% of them would die.
16:21 - Yeah.
16:22 - And no seatbelts.
16:23 Like you had more chances if the car would throw you away
16:27 than if you would stay inside when they crashed.
16:31 So I understand.
16:34 I mean, I knew that he was going to shoot it
16:36 in a very strong way, but I was shocked like you.
16:40 - You take roles, you know, this is a supporting role.
16:44 And, you know, 'cause you're a lead in so many movies
16:46 that it's the role for you.
16:48 It's the part, it doesn't matter.
16:50 - I never look at it that way.
16:51 When I read something, I don't think,
16:54 oh, it's supporting or lead and what kind of move
16:57 it means for me.
16:58 I don't look at it that way.
16:59 I look at the role and does it touch me?
17:03 Does it mean I'm going to learn something new?
17:07 Is it far from everything I've done before
17:09 and far from myself?
17:11 I don't want to play myself.
17:13 So I've been very lucky in that way.
17:14 And I never have a strategy in terms of how many lead roles,
17:18 how many supporting roles.
17:20 - Right, yeah, it's interesting.
17:21 What was the comedy, the last comedy you did
17:23 about movie making?
17:24 - Oh, yeah, "Official Competition."
17:27 - Yes, oh my God.
17:28 - That movie is funny.
17:29 - So fun, I love that.
17:31 - Yeah, I love playing a crazy director.
17:33 - Right.
17:34 - Actually, we want to bring her back to life,
17:36 that character.
17:37 - Yeah, why not?
17:38 - Because I want to keep working with them,
17:40 with the directors, Mariano and Gaston.
17:42 They are very talented.
17:43 And they're writing now something
17:46 that we will do together.
17:47 But we also want to bring this character back at some point.
17:50 - Oh, that's great.
17:51 - Because we have so much fun with her.
17:53 - What do you take from your whole experience
17:55 of making movies when you play a role like that?
17:57 It's kind of like, ooh, okay,
17:59 now I'm going to show what it's really like.
18:01 - I made my own Frankenstein of different directors
18:05 that I've worked with or that I have watched in interviews,
18:08 like specific personalities, and some men, some women,
18:13 and made my own thing.
18:14 It's not based on one specific person.
18:16 - Oh, yeah.
18:17 - Because everyone wanted to know, who is it?
18:19 Who is it?
18:20 - Right.
18:21 - It's not one, it's a combination of many.
18:23 - A combination, yeah.
18:24 - But I had so much fun playing her.
18:27 - Yeah, you are the second Spanish person to win an Oscar,
18:32 only the second.
18:34 The first happens to be your husband.
18:35 - I know, that's--
18:36 - Javier Barguil.
18:37 (laughing)
18:38 - I know, that's crazy.
18:40 - Isn't that crazy?
18:41 - We still don't know how that happened.
18:43 And imagine two years ago,
18:45 when we were nominated at the same time.
18:48 - I know, I remember.
18:49 - I also, I mean, those things are like miracles.
18:52 What are the chances?
18:54 - It was amazing.
18:55 I got to talk to him, he was here for Meet the Ricardos,
18:59 and it's so great in that, by the way.
19:01 - Yeah, great, great.
19:02 - He's another one that can play comedy, can do music,
19:06 can just adapt to anything.
19:08 - Yeah, now I'm trying to convince him to do SNL,
19:11 because he has to do this imitation that he does
19:14 of De Niro and Al Pacino talking to each other.
19:17 (laughing)
19:19 I told De Niro the other day, I saw him and I told him,
19:22 you have to ask Javier to do this.
19:24 I was like, what does, it's so brilliant,
19:27 the imitation of the two of them talking to each other,
19:30 it's amazing.
19:31 - That's amazing, yeah.
19:32 So, such a talented family here.
19:34 - No, thank you.
19:35 (laughing)
19:36 - Do your Oscars sleep together, or where do you put them?
19:40 - No, I mean, they're in a place, you know,
19:42 the first week, I think I told you this,
19:44 that the first week, when I won,
19:47 I used to take it with me everywhere,
19:49 I took it to the beach.
19:50 - Right, I know.
19:51 - Because I just could not believe that was mine.
19:54 And you know what's beautiful,
19:55 that my father didn't have the glasses on
19:59 when he put the plaque with the name,
20:01 and the name of the movie, so he put it upside down.
20:04 - Oh no.
20:05 - So, I will never change it, you know,
20:07 because my father is not with us anymore, unfortunately,
20:10 and he died very young.
20:11 And every time I look at it, it's upside down.
20:14 - And you think of him.
20:16 - It has so much meaning for me.
20:18 - That's great, and that's probably the only Oscar
20:21 that is like that, too.
20:23 - I could never turn it around.
20:26 - I love that.
20:27 (laughing)
20:29 It's, yeah, it was an amazing night, I bet,
20:32 you know, that whole thing.
20:33 - Yeah, only that I only remember 30% of it,
20:36 because, you know, the adrenaline is so,
20:38 feels like a dream.
20:42 Like, I don't remember everything, it's very intense.
20:45 - That's great.
20:47 So what are you doing next?
20:48 I know you wanna do this musical
20:50 that you won't tell me about,
20:51 but what do you have lined up?
20:54 - So I'm making a movie in the spring.
20:57 I can't tell you what it is yet.
21:01 Don't hate me for that.
21:02 I don't like the interviews when somebody say,
21:04 "Oh, I can't tell you this, I can't tell you that."
21:07 But--
21:09 - But exciting stuff.
21:10 - Yeah, we are finishing negotiation on that now,
21:14 and it's really, really, really interesting.
21:17 So I'm very excited.
21:19 I am producing the company now,
21:21 my production company in Spain,
21:24 under the umbrella of Media Pro,
21:25 with my partner Laura Espeso,
21:27 and we are developing five things.
21:29 I am directing and producing a documentary.
21:33 I've been working on it for one year,
21:35 and I need two more years.
21:37 And it's like a really,
21:39 a big passion project that is not easy,
21:44 and it's really, really hard,
21:45 but it's something that I need to do,
21:48 and that's why I'm doing it.
21:49 I'm pushing myself to do it,
21:51 because it's something that I need to do
21:54 more than any other project.
21:55 - Really?
21:56 - Yeah, more than anything.
21:57 - What is it about it?
21:59 - I'm not gonna give you a statement.
22:01 - I'm not gonna get anything out of her.
22:03 But you've got me so excited now,
22:06 I wanna see what all these projects are.
22:09 This is great.
22:09 - I don't wanna tell you.
22:13 (laughing)
22:14 Okay, as soon as I can talk about it,
22:17 you'll be the first to know.
22:18 Yeah, because you are always so kind to us.
22:22 - Okay, well, I can't wait.
22:23 And "Ferrari" actually is a big holiday attraction here,
22:28 at least in the United States,
22:30 opening at Christmas and playing,
22:32 and definitely something to see.
22:35 It's an amazing movie.
22:36 We didn't even talk about Adam Driver.
22:38 He's so good.
22:39 - He's so good, and I love working with him,
22:42 and being there with him and Michael,
22:44 and this entire crew that gave so much,
22:47 worked so hard.
22:49 But Adam and I are planning more things.
22:54 We want to work more together.
22:55 We want to find a comedy to do together.
22:58 Because being so angry at each other the whole time,
23:01 in this movie, we smile at each other once.
23:04 It was once in one scene in the table in the negotiation.
23:07 - He's a natural at comedy.
23:10 He was on "SNL." - He's so funny.
23:11 He's so funny.
23:12 - This is a very funny and very dry whip.
23:15 - Yeah, and I feel like we connect
23:17 through our sense of humor,
23:18 but we could not enjoy that and take advantage of that
23:23 in any of these scenes.
23:24 So I feel like we have the need of like,
23:27 'cause those scenes were very, very intense to shoot.
23:34 - Those, they look intense.
23:35 I can imagine.
23:36 - Especially the fight.
23:37 The fight was like,
23:38 I didn't even know my name by the end of the day.
23:41 - Is that right?
23:42 - It was so hard for him with all the prosthetics
23:43 and it was so patient.
23:46 Yeah, but I love the movie
23:49 and I feel very grateful to Michael for counting on me.
23:53 - I was gonna ask you too, before we go,
23:55 playing a real person.
23:57 There's a different kind of vibe
23:58 when you play someone real.
24:01 And you've done it before, obviously,
24:02 Donatella Versace, for which you were nominated for an Emmy.
24:06 Should've won.
24:07 (both laughing)
24:09 And others, obviously, the Pablo Escobar.
24:14 - Yeah, Virginia Vallejo, you're right.
24:16 You're right, you're right.
24:18 I think there is always an extra responsibility
24:23 when you're playing somebody real.
24:25 And Laura was not alive anymore, but it doesn't matter.
24:28 I still wanted to do the proper research and be fair.
24:33 And with Donatella, I called her and asked her,
24:36 I said, "I wanna do this, but I need your permission.
24:39 "If you don't want me to do it, I won't do it."
24:41 And she said, "I know you love me and respect me.
24:44 "If somebody's gonna do it, I want you to do it."
24:48 And that was a blessing that I needed to do it.
24:50 - Wow, that's very cool.
24:53 And I heard one of the real people you play
24:55 said she didn't like the way she was portrayed in Narcos,
24:59 another project, but she loved the way that you portrayed.
25:02 - Ah, Virginia Vallejo.
25:03 - Yeah. - Ah, okay.
25:04 Well, and that was such a tricky subject.
25:09 But also a movie that I enjoyed a lot
25:13 because Fernando León is a great director
25:15 and working also with Javier.
25:17 And we don't do that very often,
25:19 but once in a while, it's great.
25:21 - Amazing.
25:23 Well, good luck with Ferrari.
25:24 We'll see you. - Thank you.
25:25 - And everyone again should see that movie.
25:28 And thank you so much
25:29 for joining us on The Actors. - Thank you.
25:31 Thank you so much, like always.
25:32 Thank you so much.
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