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00:00You know, when I did Broadway, I put a picture of me as five years old, that was the only
00:07picture I had on my mirror, and I thought that she deserves this.
00:12And so, and I would just look at her each night and go, this is for you.
00:16And so this is what really, you know, propelled me to not be tired.
00:21I mean, it was, you know, eight shows a week, eight shows a week, two shows on the weekend.
00:26It's quite, you know, it was a lot.
00:29It was so wonderful, but it did feel like Groundhog Day when you do a play every day
00:33and you're like, oh, I just did this yesterday, I'm going to do it today, when you catch yourself.
00:36Gratitude.
00:37Gratitude will always get you through.
00:56Places, please.
01:00Places, please.
01:03This is your place's call.
01:06For the final performance of The Razzle Dazzle.
01:13Me and Las Vegas used to treat us like movie stars.
01:19Costumes, sets.
01:23We were ambassadors for style and grace.
01:30The Las Vegas showgirl.
01:37The iconic American showgirl.
01:44You have an act prepared?
01:46I do.
01:47I'm a dancer.
01:49Music?
01:51Yeah.
01:52I gave it to the maestro.
01:54No.
01:59Feeling seen, feeling beautiful, that is powerful.
02:07And I can't imagine my life without it.
02:14Doing a job that you don't really love, that's hard.
02:24Welcome to the actor's side today.
02:26You all know her.
02:28You've known her for years.
02:30But you never knew her like you know her now.
02:33With the movie The Last Showgirl, she has said this is the role she's waited her whole life to play.
02:38And I'm so glad she did.
02:40Welcome to The Razzle Dazzle.
02:42Welcome to The Razzle Dazzle.
02:44Welcome to The Razzle Dazzle.
02:46Welcome to The Razzle Dazzle.
02:48Welcome to The Razzle Dazzle.
02:50Welcome to The Razzle Dazzle.
02:52Welcome to The Razzle Dazzle.
02:54Welcome to the actor's side, Pamela Anderson.
02:57Who thought I'd ever be here?
02:59A show called The Actor's Side, you know, because we talk about the art of acting.
03:04And boy, do you deliver in this.
03:06And you know, it's obviously a great opportunity.
03:09Your book is terrific here.
03:11The documentary is fantastic on Netflix.
03:13If you have not seen this documentary, Pamela, it really is an eye-opener too.
03:19And I love how it ends.
03:21Because it ends with you on stage.
03:22And I only wish I was in New York to have seen you in Chicago.
03:25But they have a lot of clips from it.
03:29And at the end of the documentary, you're singing Nowadays.
03:33And everything's good, at least nowadays.
03:36And nowadays, everything's good, huh?
03:38Everything is good.
03:40Better than it's ever been.
03:42Well, it's fantastic.
03:44Because that documentary ends, this book too, before The Last Showgirl.
03:50Which I thought was interesting.
03:52Because you say, I don't know where it's going.
03:54I still don't know where it's going.
03:56I mean, living in the mystery and being okay with that is kind of a bold lifestyle.
04:01I think it's a romantic way to live.
04:03And so I just kind of stay open to what's next.
04:07And yeah, I felt like Broadway was just the warm-up for The Last Showgirl.
04:10Yeah.
04:12And in a sense, it is too.
04:14Because, I mean, you were able to go there.
04:16And I think somebody said, on your team, they said,
04:20it's nice because expectations were so low.
04:23You go to Broadway.
04:25I used to say that if no expectations, you can't disappoint anybody.
04:30That's right.
04:32But now I don't like to say that.
04:34But you wowed them.
04:36You know, you wowed them.
04:38And it was clear looking at all the clips and things.
04:40You're fantastic.
04:42You're a great fan of Gwen Verdon, I know.
04:44I love Gwen Verdon.
04:46And I remember that, you know, their apartment on Central Park East,
04:49I guess was where it is.
04:51And just look up there and say, I'm going to make you proud.
04:54I don't know.
04:56I was so attached to this.
04:58I've watched everything Bob Fosse.
05:00And to be able to, you know, learn that choreography is just...
05:02And I'm not a dancer.
05:04So I don't count, you know, like one, two, three, four.
05:06I just memorize after each step.
05:08So I had to figure it out in my own way.
05:10I've never been a dancer.
05:12Except on Dancing with the Stars.
05:14I did do Dancing with the Stars.
05:16And that's actually where Rob Marshall saw me.
05:18And that was it, huh?
05:20He saw me.
05:22And then he saw me on the beach with surfboards over my shoulder,
05:24bringing my kids to a surf contest.
05:26And he came up to me and he goes,
05:28have you ever thought about doing Broadway?
05:30And I was like, who are you?
05:32He's like, I'm Rob Marshall.
05:34I directed, you know, Chicago.
05:36And he goes, there's no vulnerability left in Hollywood.
05:38Like, you need to, we need to get you doing things.
05:40Because I just see you have so much to give.
05:42And then he called Barry Weissler and Barry Weissler called me.
05:44And that's how it all kind of started.
05:46I was looking for any help I could get.
05:49Spiritually.
05:51Anything.
05:53You know, I just didn't know if I could sing or dance or act on stage.
05:55But I found I could do all of it at the same time.
05:57And that was what was really eye-opening.
05:59And that I felt so safe on stage.
06:01And that I, even though I was vibrating backstage thinking,
06:03you know, with all those jitters and everything.
06:05And then going out there and just feeling so free.
06:07And had so much fun.
06:09And, you know, it was scary.
06:11But it was, I needed it for my soul.
06:13You know, I needed to do something.
06:14And I thought, you know, from Baywatch to Broadway.
06:16That's a good, that sounds good.
06:18Who would have known?
06:20That's the next book.
06:22That's a great title.
06:24I saw this movie at the Toronto Film Festival.
06:26I was going to review it.
06:28It was one of many movies.
06:30You know, you go in and you do.
06:32And I just get in the line.
06:34I know I'll always get in because they, you know,
06:36even though it's like these theaters are huge that they show.
06:38This was at the Princess of Wales.
06:40But I swear to you, I went around.
06:42It was starting to rain and everything.
06:44I went around the block.
06:46Then I went around the block.
06:48Then I went around the block.
06:50And then I went around another block.
06:52I've never, and I've been to Toronto many times.
06:54And many screenings.
06:56I've never stood in a line like this.
06:58I said, whoa, this is crazy.
07:00Canadians, Canadian girl, maybe.
07:02Canadian girl, you know.
07:04And the Canadians really were the first there in line.
07:06Literally.
07:08Yeah.
07:10Well, we thought it was a great place to premiere it in Toronto.
07:12Must have been fun to go.
07:14The first time we had seen the film together as a cast
07:16was at the Toronto Film Festival.
07:18So we all saw it together for the first time.
07:20There's not a lot of tears.
07:22And I think it was exciting to see.
07:24It was.
07:26Well, one of your co-stars, the wonderful Jamie Lee Curtis
07:28got very emotional on stage and talking about taking on this role.
07:31And she has said many times now the reason she did it
07:33when she heard you were in it.
07:35And she said, I don't even need to read the script.
07:37Wow.
07:39I know.
07:41When she looked at me and said, I did this for you.
07:43I was like, oh, my goodness.
07:45OK, this is serious.
07:47Yeah, wow.
07:49No, it was really wonderful.
07:51She's such a champion for women and champion for herself.
07:53And she's such a great role model and inspiration to me
07:55to see her take on these characters so fearlessly.
07:57And so originally and uniquely, she just has this.
07:59Well, first of all, she has so much life experience
08:01to bring into it, but also her family.
08:03And, you know, so she knows what she's doing.
08:05And and she's also been objectified in her career
08:07in the past.
08:09And so I think that's a great thing.
08:11She's been objectified in her career in life, too,
08:13and then made that switch.
08:15Yes.
08:17So I didn't really put that all together until we were,
08:19you know, together and realized, you know, that's
08:21it's all about reinvention.
08:23It really is.
08:25You know, when she sat in this very chair
08:27a couple of years ago, a year ago,
08:29and we got to talking, she said, I'm 64.
08:31I just decided I'm going to do this now.
08:33And I said, you know, I'm going to.
08:35She was nominated for an Academy Award at that point.
08:37She hadn't won yet.
08:39And I said, you're open.
08:41And I said, I'm just not going to say that.
08:43And I said, is now going to say Academy Award
08:45nominee Jamie Lee Curtis dies.
08:47And she said, no, it isn't.
08:49She said Halloween actress Jamie Lee Curtis
08:51is going to die because she like you
08:53are pointing out, got sort of stuck
08:55with that image and all of that.
08:57I mean, it's it's being a part of pop
08:59culture is a blessing and a little bit
09:01of a curse, too.
09:03So you have to kind of start at a deficit
09:05trying to convince people, first of all,
09:07that you're human and secondly,
09:09that you're an actress and you're
09:10But you know I like a challenge
09:12That's sort of what it says on the back of your book to live and dream is a wicked dance my dreams often come true
09:17A curse and a blessing right there you go. Yes
09:20Yes, but you know you need I mean sure I look back on my life and think maybe I would have done things differently
09:25But I needed the life experience to teach me that that I should have done things differently. You know so there's really no
09:32Regrets, and I don't think I could have played the character of Shelly as I did if I didn't have the life
09:38I had from you know childbirth to now how much should you bring of yourself into that role everything really everything?
09:46Everything I've got everything I could remember and you know funny enough. I've just written my memoirs, so I remember a lot
09:52sometimes you know I started writing my book my first memory my second memory my and then you know it was a quite a
09:59quite a interesting journey, but
10:02Yes, and I felt like the you can write about it. You can talk to your friends about it
10:07You can go to therapy about your life
10:08But to do a movie and to be able to put so much into it and to learn about yourself
10:12Along the way is a unique experience is sometimes
10:15There's no other way to express yourself if you you know make a painting or write a song or you need something else
10:21And so I felt like I really got a lot off my chest in this movie
10:24It was really helpful
10:25Just like Rob Marshall saw you on dancing with the stars and saw something there the great directors always know this and Gia Coppola
10:33Of the infamous Coppola dynasty and everything saw your documentary I understand and
10:40Said she's it. She's Shelley
10:42Yeah
10:43And what it you know that does take a special kind of visionary to be able to look through all the nonsense and see a
10:49person you know aching to express herself creatively and
10:54She saw that in me and that was
10:56You know, I think life-changing life-saving for me
11:00I was really wonderful
11:01And so when I finally got the script, you know
11:03It kind of went to an old agent they passed on it and then finally my son heard about it and brought it to me
11:08And you know Gia was relentless. She was looking for me and when I found me in my garden making pickles
11:14You know, I was I wasn't sure I was a little disappointed that I wasn't able to reach my potential as a as an actress
11:20And so I thought okay, that's it. I'm just always gonna be remembered, you know for this caricature
11:26and
11:27No, she said no. I need you. You are my Shelley and and she was so such a great actors director and
11:33Yeah, like I said, that was that took a special
11:36Person to be able to see that so I'm eternally grateful to you underestimate yourself as an actor
11:42I really do because I was a big fan of Steve Levitin stacked show. I really it was a
11:48Two seasons something like that. You were great. You great comic timing that show was really well written and you know
11:56It should have gone on longer just like his show reunion, which only lasted eight episodes was fantastic
12:01But I could tell them did you know when you did that show? Well, you know, I I love Steve Levitin
12:07They really talked to me into doing this show. I was
12:10Distracted I had a lot of things going on in my personal life
12:13One thing you know raising children and I was really and they said you don't do a TV series or do a sitcom because that's the
12:19Greatest hours and that you can drop your kids off at school. You can pick them up in the afternoon
12:22you know you have weekends off and and so I did it but my heart really wasn't in it and without I felt like
12:30I'm just needed the time and I feel like like I said now my kids are grown. I have full focus
12:35I'm my relationship is my work. It's my lover my best friend. It's everything. That's all I need
12:42I'm very happy and and I think that's what you need to do. Yeah to be able to have that kind of
12:48time and appreciation and just
12:51Focus, you know for me I knew I was I
12:54Knew I was capable of more right when I when I was doing Baywatch, you know
12:57I took acting lessons a long time ago and was so fascinated in and what it all meant
13:02But then, you know, I got married got sidetracked and you know
13:06my life kind of went like this a little bit and
13:08Then I got back into it when I did Broadway and I and I did this film and I didn't make a gun and now
13:13It rose was pruning too and I've been working
13:16Privately and I just I love it. I'm soaking it up like a sponge. I've just scratched the surface
13:21Yeah, exactly. You've been actually working a lot since this movie a naked gun, which I cannot wait for
13:28Liam Neeson, it's got to be it's got to be great. Well, he's so funny
13:33You know, and I know like Leslie Nielsen started out as a dramatic actor
13:37So in the heat and so Liam as this funny mean he's Irish. Of course, he's funny. I mean, he's just so
13:43Humble and gracious and funny and just you know
13:45he's goofy and I think everyone's gonna gather like he likes to say a giggle and
13:49Then you just recently came back from doing another picture from us
13:53Yeah, I just shot rosebush pruning in Barcelona with Kareem a news and it's an ensemble piece
13:59You know Callum Turner Riley Kehoe Jamie Bell
14:03L fanning Wow
14:05Yeah, there's Lucas Cage. It's quite a and Tracy Letts. Oh, my husband
14:10My god Wow, so it's it and I play the mother of a yeah, I wouldn't want to say dysfunctional
14:16But we'll call it eerie family
14:19So another completely different role Wow, Tracy, let's go write a play for you. I hope so. I'm really drawn to theater
14:25I really hope I get to do more at theater
14:27I'm trying to I'm thinking about trying to get a place on the East Coast so I can be closer to New York just in
14:31Case and just go back on the boards. Huh? I would love that. I mean I just you know, it's great about the Fosse
14:39Choreography and just that that play is that it's just a black stage and
14:44Dancers and singers. It's not a lot of props not a lot of anything
14:47It's it was really kind of just bare bare bones and all about the people on stage, you know
14:52it's interesting to about
14:54That doing that kind of Broadway show like Chicago and all those people that are in that show that this has been running forever
15:00They have lives they go there. This is their place of work
15:03No, no bones about it when they go on eight times a week
15:07The show in The Last Showgirl
15:09These are all women here that have their lives
15:12This is what they do and it's suddenly being taken away from them and it's just devastating
15:17But it is business as normal and this is something Shelley your character has done, you know
15:24And now it's gone. Yeah, and I and I feel like that's what was so interesting
15:29I love to think about the women holding up the rhinestones, you know, they have relationships. They've got kids
15:34They've got heartache and the show must go on and you know
15:37They need to know what they're gonna make for dinner and there's all this banter backstage, which I heard firsthand on
15:41You know when I was in Chicago, oh, yeah on the play and everyone is talking about what they're gonna eat for dinner
15:47Someone's what someone's wearing. I mean it could be anything watching baseball and then they hear they're cute
15:51But they're on and they go off the stage and they start talking again about what they're making for dinner
15:56And I was like, oh my gosh, I've got so many like a monologue coming up
16:00Everything and they're talking but but they've been on there for 18 years. It's muscle memory
16:04It's a go time, you know, and then I just don't know how so it's so demanding
16:08It's so hard and it's so interesting that these people can do this for so long and you know
16:13And these people are not all super young actors. I mean, it's a great onstage people, you know, there is an expiry date
16:20I'm sure just like with Shelley, but it's it's down the down the road a little bit, you know
16:25And I I found that I think it's a very hopeful film Shelley
16:29Because I think that she's going to always sparkle and always
16:33Reinvent herself and you know, I have a lot of bedazzled great aunts, you know
16:37So I know that it just gets sparklier and we get that at the end of it. It's very hopeful
16:42it's you walk out of that movie and
16:45You have a lot of faith that she's gonna be okay. Yeah, she's tough. She doesn't she doesn't pull any punches
16:52She's like I always say she wears her heart on her sleeve. She manages her life best. She can an
16:57Imperfect
16:59Messy kind of person when it comes to her life choices and reassessing her life choices, but and she's not a pushover
17:05right, you know, and then she is
17:08Teaching her daughter in the best way. She knows how the mother-daughter story. I think is a really important part of the film
17:14That's great. You're great together
17:16With Billy. Yeah, and and she's like that scene
17:19I mean her grandmother's Debbie Reynolds her mother's Carrie Fisher. Yeah, I mean we were both just locked and loaded
17:26You know for that scene that was the first scene we did together and it was it was quite a
17:31Bonding experience. I'll say heartbreaking. It's it's amazing and working with that ensemble the whole ensemble
17:38It's great in an 18-day shoot. That's even less than what they call a television movie
17:46Yes 18 days, you know and I was in everything so I had to come very very prepared I came
17:52You know, I went I made sure I knew that movie from start to finish like a play
17:57That's how I came but obviously then you're the director tells you where to go
18:01But you need to have all the work in you and ready for anything
18:04And so that was really wonderful because there was no time to do multiple takes
18:11It was on film too, so we didn't see playback
18:13She kept her a little monitor to herself not department heads didn't have you know
18:18Nowadays everyone has these monitors and has to chime in but she this was her singular vision. She's such a great
18:24you know, she's soft-spoken but super decisive you can trust her completely and
18:29It was kind of all new to me. Like I feel like this is just the beginning of my career
18:33It was my first real experience on a film where I was a hundred percent devoted to it. Yeah, that's interesting
18:39I I got the feeling it is the beginning to I mean doing this documentary doing this book
18:44All of that was phase one and and it ends that way but you didn't know no
18:51Which is like the timing is like amazing
18:54But this just dropped in your life like this, you know when I was a little girl
18:59I used to think I was gonna recognize myself when I was older. I just had to get through, you know, 50 years
19:06I used to think that when I was little Wow, so maybe this is it
19:11Maybe this was it, you know when I did Broadway, I
19:15Put a picture of me as five years old
19:16that was the only picture I had on my mirror and I thought that she deserves this and
19:22So and I would just look at her each night and go this is for you. And so this is what really
19:27You know propelled me to
19:30Not be tired. I mean it was you know, eight shows a week
19:33Eight shows a week two shows on on the weekend. It's quite
19:37You know, it was it was a it was a lot it was so wonderful
19:40But it did feel like Groundhog Day when you do a play every day and like I just did this yesterday
19:44I'm gonna do it today when you catch yourself gratitude gratitude will always get you through
19:49Can you imagine the people that do it for a year two years 18 years?
19:54Some of the people on there have done those roles. Yeah
19:58Yes, wow, yeah, that's a rare show that's been running forever it's been running forever and it will run forever
20:05It's a wonderful. It's great. I hope it's always there. Yeah it well they do to
20:11Steady work as they say. Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's amazing. I
20:16You know, this is something I looked at
20:19But Lily James played you obviously in Pam and Tommy
20:24She got an Emmy nomination a Golden Globe nomination and a Critics Choice nomination for playing Pamela Anderson
20:29You have not now this there's something wrong in the universe in my opinion
20:35Well, you know, I didn't even know that was coming out. I didn't know nothing of it. No one called me and asked me any
20:40Anything about it and ask your permission
20:43Which makes this doubly bad
20:46Which kind of fuels my fire?
20:49I don't know if it does maybe it does
20:52You know, I just want to make like my kids proud too and I think those kind of things where they are exploiting your personal
20:58life
20:59What they know of your personal life, you know to which is usually not all true. So
21:05Yeah, I need like I said when I did Broadway I felt and I saw my kids front row
21:10that was amazing to see so much pride and respect in their faces like afterwards, you know, and then
21:18They they didn't they didn't they just recently saw this movie even though Brandon produced it he brought me the script
21:23He said I want to believe the hype mom. I'm like
21:25He hadn't seen it
21:27No, and I had him I had nobody come to the set when I was filming too because I wanted my focus
21:31It was a very short, you know shooting schedule and I didn't I feel differently when my kids are around, you know
21:37You can't help it when you're a mom just worrying about where everybody is and what they're doing. So
21:42Yeah, they finally saw it and I got two big hugs from them
21:44They saw at different times and and so that was that felt good, too
21:48Because I want my legacy to be I don't want to be defined by what has been done to me
21:53I want to be defined by what I do. And so these are things that I'm
21:57Hoping to continue to do. Yeah, you know, what's interesting to me. They it's all in your documentary, too
22:02They said blonde bombshell all those words
22:05Hollywood throws out and everything and I think of actresses like
22:09Marilyn Monroe Francis Farmer Jessica Lange got an Oscar nomination for playing Francis Farmer Marilyn Monroe and Michelle Williams others have
22:17been nominated for that and
22:19Actors like that who never got it in their lives
22:23Yet you look at Marilyn Monroe in
22:26Some like it hot the Misfits bus stop the Misfits. Yeah, the Misfits
22:31Unbelievable talent that Hollywood sort of held back. She didn't get that opportunity. She's so great right now
22:38You are
22:40And you know, it doesn't always happen. It didn't happen for them. Well, you're a survivor
22:46Survivor and I'm also a rebel, you know, sometimes I go against what everyone's telling me to do, you know
22:51Even including the no makeup thing people panicked all around me and I said, you know, it's just not a big deal
22:56I'm just not in my personal life
22:57I don't feel like wearing makeup, but I also felt like I need I want people to see me and then in
23:03It and who I am and that's enough not the caricatures I created
23:08But even though I guess they were memorable characters, they turned into Halloween costumes got a you know, that's a compliment I guess
23:13But um
23:15So now I get to play characters in movies instead of in my personal life, right?
23:20Exactly, you know a Baywatch you did for how many years did you do that five years five years?
23:25And it was just this it wasn't just here our normal television show
23:29It was probably the beginning before streaming before Netflix and everything of being a global
23:35Sensation just around the world hundred and fifty countries. You couldn't go
23:39Anywhere without that madness all in that documentary. I can't imagine people living through that and still having a head and
23:48It was just also surreal. But and also that time, you know people didn't have you know, these social media apps
23:53So people were more excited about people because they didn't see them so much, right? So it was you know wild at times
24:02It certainly was I mean that was crazy
24:05But you know what it was you became I think the highest paid actor on actress on television
24:12Yeah, and I think I started out as the lowest paid on the first season for the first season 1,500 an episode
24:19Yeah. Yeah, so worth doing this
24:24Long time ago, you know things were different, you know back in the old days, you know
24:28but I mean also I think I spent all of that because what I would do is I would go to my
24:32Favorite makeup artist house at 3 in the morning and get ready for Baywatch because I really thought I wanted this kind of this
24:37Is the way I wanted to look on Baywatch?
24:39I was really, you know wanted to do that
24:41So I and then after the first season then they started they kind of then they looked after me
24:45But I don't know. I've always I'm very visual. I like to be a part of the look the I don't know
24:51I was already being super creative back then, you know, I just knew what I wanted it to be
24:57I worked really hard on that and I know it was Baywatch, but I think
25:01Anybody in that situation and like what takes a great performance is not just the actor
25:06but it's the script and it's the director and it's and as the
25:10You know the editor and the music. I mean, we're so lucky. We've got such beautiful music in this
25:14Oh, yeah, I mean Andrew Wyatt is a genius and then for Miley to sing that song we got
25:22all the
25:24Yeah, it's just ticking off the boxes, but music is very important. It's very it's always been important to you music
25:29Yes, everything like that a long time ago. You relate to that. I used to be in a jazz band when I was in high school
25:37I played saxophone a little bit of accordion and I sang all the scat solos
25:42Because I was the only one who would do it and it's funny cuz in actually in a naked gun. I actually have a scat solo
25:49I won't give it too much of it away, but it's quite
25:52Interesting. Yeah, I love jazz. I love the imperfectness of jazz
25:55It means some of my favorite scenes are, you know, Sean Monroe and Miles Davis, you know
26:00The elevator to the gallows is the music and the film has always really inspired me and I and I love that
26:06This, you know that our performance element to it. So I'm looking at those types of things too in future projects
26:12Do you think we'd be here talking if the camera didn't point to you on that?
26:17Jumbotron all those years ago at that Canadian game football game football game. I don't know
26:24In other words, would you have pursued this no matter what if I didn't think
26:30Being an actress was a possibility
26:32I was always a very imaginative kid, but I didn't I thought you know actors had actor children who had actor children
26:37I didn't think this was any Hollywood was even that real, you know, I wasn't expecting to go there
26:42So, I don't know. I mean, I remember
26:46Playboy finding me in the phone book, you know
26:48like I called me cuz mine was listed in the phone book and they asked me to come down and I
26:52Hummed and hawed about it and thought no, I'm just so I was really I'm actually very shy
26:56I'm paralyzingly shy as a kid and my mom told me to do it
27:00Because I want you to go there do it have a different life darling
27:03I want you to experience life and if this is how you you know, we call the island the rock I get off the rock
27:11Just go do it. Your mother is
27:13Incredibly supportive of you and that's important
27:17My mom and dad never taught me how to think never taught me what to believe
27:20We've always just had this kind of these collaborative conversations and and I really appreciate that
27:25Yeah, they're they did the best they could think that they are
27:28They were 17 and 19 when they had me and they're still together madly in love more in love than I think anybody I've ever seen
27:35So it's out there. It works. It happens. It can happen. But now you're madly in love with show business
27:40I'm madly in love with show business who would have thought no, but I really am
27:44I'm very I'm really excited about this time in my life
27:47but I've also raised my kids and I've and I've and you know, and I feel like this is the time for me and
27:54My kids are so wonderful because they're the ones who said we just want you to be you mom
27:57Yeah, and we want you to
28:00Realize your potential. I mean my kids really masterminded this
28:02I mean Brandon produced the documentary told me to write my book
28:06I thought write my book and put it in a safe and then you know, how about come out when I'm gone?
28:09they're like no is you have nothing to be ashamed of and and not that I was ashamed I just
28:16You know, I just didn't think I was I didn't really spend my life explaining myself
28:20It sounded like it went down such a weird road that there was just no getting away from it
28:27But you know, this is what's good because I get to use all of that in my in my work now
28:32It's so good. And look what it's doing
28:34You won the jury prize at the San Sebastian Film Festival the Golden Eye at Zurich Film Festival
28:41Marquee Award at the Savannah Film Festival. You are nominated for lead
28:46Performance at the Gotham Awards coming up and nominated for Best Actress so far at the AARP
28:54Which they call AARP used to be the American Association of Retired Persons. That doesn't sound good, but it's cool
28:59It's a big award show
29:01And you're up in that as well and more to come. It's how does it feel? I just I'm just very excited
29:09I'm just taking it day by day because I don't know. I just it's very surreal. But I
29:15Mean it might this is the best time in my life
29:17And not just because of that just because of the a lot of the work I've done on myself and a lot of the opportunities
29:23I'm able I just like to work. I'm
29:25The harder I work the happier I am. I have to just I love
29:29Working hard. So this is all very exciting hard work does pay off. Yeah
29:34What are you looking for in the future now? You've done these movies that are coming out
29:38You got a lot on your docket here. And what do you want to do? I want to do everything
29:47But no, I want to challenge myself I want to transform into characters I want to be a chameleon
29:51I want to experiment with things that are challenging and and I'm looking at a few things now that are in that
29:58way and I want to work with really wonderful directors and
30:03Actors and
30:05I'm a huge, you know, I watch movies constantly. I'm a Criterion junkie
30:09You know, I I've just robbed it to the Criterion closet the other day
30:14Everything all the Godard and you know Fellini and Bergman, you know, they're coming out with a box set
30:18It's actually now it's like 40 Criterion movies cost like three hundred and something dollars
30:23But it's the pick of the pick of the litter. It is everything you'll go crazy if you're Godard or all that
30:29It's that whole mix. Yeah, that's a big Christmas gift. Yeah, there you go Criterion collection box
30:35But you're fans of all that kind of cinema
30:39I've been watching, you know Fellini and and you know all these movies and I remember
30:44You know when I was even in when I started at Playboy
30:47I would go to the Samuel French bookstore and sit on the ground and read Tennessee Williams and Eugene O'Neill plays and
30:52Sam Shepard wondering how do I get from here to there while you're doing playboy covers? Yeah
30:59Well, that's it. That's that's Pam Anderson right there
31:03That's that's why we we can't pigeonhole you or try to define you. You'd let you define yourself. Thank you now
31:11Well, thank you for joining us on the actors side today. Amazing and the movie is the last show girl and check it out
31:19It's coming out in December. Yes, it is
31:21And in America in LA qualifying it and then January 10th and January 10th
31:27everywhere else
31:29Pamela Anderson, thank you. Thank you very much