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00:00 When something unexpected happens, it's really...
00:06 I don't know what to say.
00:11 I'm sorry.
00:18 To be continued...
00:22 To be continued...
00:27 To be continued...
00:30 What's up, guys? It's Motif Trending Time.
00:31 Today, I'm joined by Kak Ebi Abadi.
00:35 Welcome to the studio.
00:36 Hi, Kak. -Hi.
00:39 Thank you for coming.
00:40 Before we start, I have a disclaimer.
00:44 I'm nervous about interviewing you today.
00:48 Why? -Because...
00:49 ...your name is trending online.
00:53 We're trending, right? -Yes.
00:56 Even though the question is not in the script, I want to ask it.
00:59 I want to know the answer. -Really?
01:01 I'm a netizen. -God willing.
01:02 We're all netizens.
01:04 Let's start with the easy question.
01:08 God willing. -Let's start with the Ramadan meal...
01:10 ...that is a must-have at Kak Ebi's house.
01:13 We think about what to eat every day.
01:16 It's fun to fast from morning to night.
01:22 It's a success. -That's right.
01:24 We want to eat something delicious.
01:25 We want to have rice.
01:28 We want to have sweet cream for the portion.
01:32 We want to order goat meat.
01:36 You order it every day. -We change it up.
01:38 Where do you stand in this spectrum?
01:41 Do you cook by yourself or do you order food?
01:45 Both.
01:48 We can do both. -It depends on our mood.
01:51 It depends on your mood. If you're in a good mood, you cook.
01:54 If you're not, you buy.
01:56 But, when we're at home, we like to cook.
02:01 We know what to eat. We plan what to cook.
02:05 We go to the market often...
02:08 ...to support the businessmen.
02:11 We're also a businessman.
02:14 We feel happy when people buy.
02:16 We support them.
02:18 Sometimes, we meet businessmen.
02:20 Sometimes, we don't feel like buying, but we want to support them.
02:23 I like to go to the Ramadan market...
02:25 ...to buy their food.
02:27 It's delicious. -What's your favourite food?
02:29 I like to eat serunding.
02:31 Serunding is my favourite.
02:33 I also like tepung pelita.
02:36 Have you bought tepung pelita for Ramadan?
02:38 Not yet. -Did you change it?
02:41 Last time, you put it in the pandan leaf.
02:45 You don't do that anymore.
02:46 You don't use the stapler.
02:48 Yes. -We change it.
02:50 What do you do with it now?
02:51 I put it in the plastic tupperware.
02:54 It doesn't smell like pandan leaf anymore.
02:57 What's wrong with the stapler?
03:00 Don't they know how to check before eating?
03:02 They eat it like that. -What are you saying?
03:05 You're like a podcast.
03:08 I'm talking about food.
03:10 What activities do you do during Ramadan?
03:14 I spend time with my family.
03:16 During Ramadan, I pray and eat.
03:23 Sometimes, we can't get together on normal days.
03:27 Recently, your name has been...
03:31 ...replaced by a controversial name.
03:38 How do you handle this situation?
03:42 How do you deal with this?
03:48 I'm very grateful...
03:52 ...because I have Allah.
03:55 I have Allah, so....
03:57 Why did I suddenly cry?
04:01 Do you have tissues? -I'm sorry.
04:07 I shouldn't have cried.
04:10 I'm just busy.
04:12 I hope it's not too sensitive.
04:18 It's not sensitive.
04:20 I can answer that.
04:22 I'm very grateful that I have Allah.
04:26 I'm given strength and clarity.
04:34 I've been through a lot of bad things in life.
04:40 I was not smart, I didn't understand, I wasn't strong.
04:45 I didn't have the patience.
04:47 But at this age, my children are growing up.
04:51 I've been through a lot of trials and tribulations.
04:56 I'm strong because I have Allah.
05:00 When the netizens started talking about...
05:03 ...Marissa getting married at a young age,...
05:07 ...obviously your name has been brought up.
05:10 The netizens started to correct your real-life stories.
05:14 So, we wanted to ask you about where you stand at that point...
05:18 ...in the divorce case.
05:20 I've moved on for too long...
05:23 ...after I was asked about the divorce.
05:25 I didn't have any feelings left.
05:28 If I was asked about my ex-wife, I didn't have any problem.
05:33 I was okay with it.
05:34 We were very close.
05:36 For the sake of my children, for the sake of Allah.
05:39 I don't think I can choose my death.
05:41 But I can choose my fate.
05:43 When I was divorced, I wasn't strong.
05:50 I wasn't strong.
05:53 I didn't do anything that would make it difficult for anyone.
06:00 For example, I took a chance.
06:04 The slander is still there.
06:06 Before I got divorced, I went to my ex-husband's location.
06:14 But it didn't happen.
06:16 Allah said, I went to look for him because he didn't come back.
06:20 I'm the type of person who can't share.
06:24 That's what I find strange about my children.
06:28 My children choose to share their lives with their parents.
06:34 But I can't do that.
06:35 That's why I asked for a divorce.
06:37 When you asked about the divorce.
06:39 I don't want to talk about it anymore.
06:41 I've forgotten a lot of things.
06:44 I've deleted all the recordings.
06:48 You've deleted them? - Yes.
06:50 You didn't know about it, right?
06:52 I can call Norman and ask him.
06:55 What is the truth?
06:57 What did Kak Ebi say?
06:59 What's the story?
07:01 Next week, he'll come.
07:03 I went to see him.
07:04 He used harsh words.
07:09 But it didn't happen.
07:12 When you found out, or when Marissa told you that she's getting married.
07:18 She didn't tell you? - No.
07:20 She just went there? - Yes.
07:22 I found out after my husband saw the CCTV at home.
07:29 There's something that shouldn't be told.
07:33 I understand. - Can you tell me?
07:39 I didn't know about it.
07:43 When I got home, my husband saw the CCTV.
07:47 He was with his girlfriend.
07:50 I found out after the incident.
07:52 It happened on the same day.
07:54 I found out that he had left for Thailand.
07:57 He was with his girlfriend.
08:01 He was in her room.
08:04 So, no one would know.
08:08 It's not something that you can predict.
08:12 But his girlfriend was lucky to leave the house.
08:17 The CCTV didn't only record him for 24 hours.
08:22 But it also recorded his steps.
08:25 He left on the same day.
08:27 I don't know who planned it.
08:29 I just know that it was a set up.
08:32 It's not that easy.
08:34 I don't know why it's so easy for a young man...
08:39 ...or someone else to get married in that country.
08:45 Oh my God.
08:47 So, he just disappeared that day.
08:49 He went to Thailand.
08:51 How did you know that Marissa went to Thailand...
08:56 ...based on what you saw on the CCTV?
08:59 You just saw her leaving the house.
09:01 On the same day, we had friends from the police.
09:06 We couldn't find her.
09:10 We had an instinct.
09:14 As a mother, I knew that she would do something.
09:18 So, we gave her phone number and asked the police to tag her.
09:23 I was late.
09:27 The police checked her phone and found out that she went to Thailand.
09:33 We didn't have anyone to contact in Thailand.
09:36 So, we stopped her.
09:39 That's all I know.
09:42 Did you think that Marissa didn't want to tell her family...
09:47 ...when she decided to get married...
09:50 ...because she was afraid that her parents wouldn't agree?
09:53 Do you think that's why she kept quiet about it?
09:57 No parents would support their daughter's decision.
10:01 I don't think there's a parent who would support their daughter's decision.
10:07 It's better for us.
10:09 We have a choice to hold a proper wedding.
10:14 We have a choice to marry someone else.
10:18 But, that's what happened.
10:22 We have to go through this.
10:26 If you knew about this from the start...
10:30 ...would you have supported Marissa to become the second wife?
10:36 Or would you have stopped her? - I wouldn't have.
10:40 Because...
10:42 ...I didn't see the beauty of being the second wife.
10:48 If she got divorced and married someone else, it's one thing.
10:52 But, I didn't see the beauty of being the second wife.
10:56 For example, in this situation...
11:00 ...the husband and wife are still young.
11:04 But Marissa got married.
11:06 If a person gets married, it's because they don't have children.
11:11 It's because of their friends.
11:15 But, I don't think there's a reason for it.
11:17 And, it's not because of her ability.
11:20 If my daughter told me about this from the start...
11:23 ...I don't think it would have happened.
11:26 Because she couldn't do it.
11:27 Did you take the chance to communicate with Abang Norman about this?
11:36 Did he know anything that he didn't tell you?
11:40 If I didn't know, he wouldn't have known.
11:43 Because he's my son.
11:45 So, after I told him, he knew.
11:49 If I didn't handle it well, this is what would happen.
11:58 It would get worse.
12:01 I didn't expect it to end so suddenly.
12:04 Because it happened in a short period of time.
12:07 Now, we don't know anything.
12:09 We just wait for the right day.
12:12 If Allah wills it, we'll meet and talk.
12:16 But, my daughter is not good at communicating.
12:20 She's not responsible for a lot of things.
12:22 But, she's not good at it?
12:24 She's not good at it.
12:25 She's not responsible for a lot of things.
12:27 She doesn't answer our questions.
12:31 She's just quiet.
12:32 We don't like to force her.
12:34 So, we just let her be.
12:36 If that's what she wants, then, we'll let her be.
12:40 If a friend comes, you'll just let her be.
12:42 And the next thing you know, she's married.
12:44 You also don't know anything.
12:45 How is the family's side of the family?
12:52 Or, is there any normal side?
12:54 Is there any situation?
12:55 They don't want to interfere.
12:57 They just let it be.
12:59 I feel like I'm being targeted.
13:06 So, I want to report to the police.
13:10 But, I don't know what to report.
13:14 What do you want to write?
13:16 What do I want to report?
13:18 I've thought about it.
13:20 If I report, what will I get?
13:23 What will I get out of it?
13:24 I don't see any solution.
13:27 My daughter can solve it herself.
13:32 She has to solve it herself.
13:36 As a mother, I don't want to force her.
13:39 I don't want to report to the police.
13:40 I don't want the police to arrest her.
13:42 Because she's the reason.
13:43 I don't think that will solve the problem.
13:46 But, it will bring a bigger problem.
13:50 But, if Allah wills it.
13:52 As a mother, I know that my daughter can solve this.
13:59 If Allah wills it.
14:00 Please pray for her. -Ameen.
14:02 How do you feel about your daughter-in-law's acceptance?
14:10 As a family or just as a family?
14:13 For now, it's not over.
14:16 So, I can't give you an answer to that question.
14:19 If Allah wills it, I'll accept whatever Allah decides.
14:28 So, if the person who's going to end it is still in this picture, you'll accept it?
14:32 I'll accept it.
14:33 Because it's the choice my daughter made.
14:37 If she feels that it's good for her, I'll accept it.
14:41 Did Abang Norman meet Marissa's husband, Aslam, after that situation?
14:47 Did they talk about anything?
14:50 Did he tell you anything about this?
14:53 Did you know anything that he said to Aslam?
14:56 He knew about it before, but he acted after that.
15:00 So, for me, nothing has changed.
15:06 So, you can ask him about his future questions.
15:13 I think... Abang Norman, you're coming next week, right?
15:16 My next question is, Kak Abby gave you a question.
15:20 At that time, you said that Marissa is the only daughter of Harapan Abby's daughter.
15:26 I didn't say that.
15:28 But actually, you didn't mean that, right?
15:30 No, I didn't say that.
15:32 They wrote it wrongly.
15:34 It was a comment from a netizen.
15:38 I don't know if I should call it a netizen or a comment on social media.
15:43 You can call it a keyboard warrior.
15:44 That's what they used as a title.
15:46 I didn't say that.
15:48 I take care of my children.
15:51 I educate my children.
15:52 I respect the trust that Allah has given me.
15:55 I treat them equally.
15:57 So, I do everything equally for all my children.
16:02 When people raise issues, I just want to fix it.
16:06 Because I didn't say anything.
16:07 I have three children.
16:10 Before, I had three big children.
16:12 Now, I have three small children.
16:14 I love them equally.
16:16 I want them to grow up well.
16:19 I want them to be good servants.
16:20 I don't want them to be happy in this world.
16:23 But, I hope that they will be happy in the hereafter.
16:25 How is your relationship with Marissa now?
16:28 Do you guys still talk?
16:30 We only talk on WhatsApp.
16:33 We don't have a chance to meet.
16:38 We met that day.
16:39 But, people asked me why I didn't force her to meet me.
16:43 Why didn't I ask her to meet me?
16:45 It's not as easy as it seems.
16:49 We met because we wanted to fix the relationship.
16:56 If we meet, she will come to us...
16:59 ...and we'll talk about a topic that she doesn't want to hear.
17:02 She will run away.
17:04 It won't be resolved.
17:06 So, we try to be gentle to fix the situation.
17:10 Now, we're trying to give her time to fix the situation.
17:19 I asked her when she's going to fix the situation.
17:23 She said, she'll give her time.
17:25 So, we'll wait.
17:27 She didn't expect that she would get married at the age...
17:30 ...that she wanted to get married at.
17:34 Now that things have come to this, if it can be fixed...
17:41 ...and the marriage is a success, I'm okay with it.
17:45 But, it's not resolved yet.
17:48 I don't see a solution.
17:51 I'll just wait for Marissa to do what she wants.
17:55 I don't like to force her.
17:57 I know that we're young.
18:00 I know that children don't like to be forced.
18:04 They like to do what they want to do.
18:07 I can only advise them on what's good and what's not.
18:11 What do you think about this?
18:15 When someone makes a mistake...
18:18 ...and there's someone who will take the responsibility...
18:22 ...does she want to help or support...
18:25 ...whoever is doing that fault?
18:29 I'm in the age of content.
18:31 Even though I'm angry, I still want to watch and read.
18:41 But, when my daughter is being taken as a model...
18:50 ...for her clothes or anything else...
18:53 ...when people are angry at her...
18:56 ...I think it's a blessing.
18:58 Who would want to give away someone else's blessings?
19:01 But, about the viral photo of her and Aslam...
19:06 ...I asked her...
19:09 ...why she was so proud...
19:13 ...because it's not resolved yet.
19:15 We don't know how to resolve it.
19:18 She said, the photoshoot was not as good as the first one.
19:24 It was a different shoot.
19:27 But, Marissa came with Aslam.
19:31 I think.
19:32 When she was about to leave, they asked her to take photos.
19:36 They said, we can take a few photos.
19:39 Marissa said, she didn't take photos for the shoot.
19:43 She didn't sell clothes like Aslam's.
19:46 But, that was before Marissa left.
19:50 She left without Marissa's permission.
19:54 That's what I know.
19:55 I think, that shouldn't have happened.
19:58 It's too sensitive for me.
20:01 Marissa is considered a social media slacker.
20:06 People bash her on social media.
20:10 Did you read those things?
20:13 How did you feel at that time?
20:18 I'm sorry.
20:20 Wait.
20:27 There must be some words that hurt you.
20:33 A lot.
20:35 I...
20:38 I'm still a good daughter.
20:41 I didn't expect that to happen to my daughter.
20:46 I only imagined the best for my children.
20:53 When something like that happens...
20:57 It's really...
21:00 I don't know what to say.
21:06 It hurts the feelings, for sure.
21:12 I'm sorry.
21:13 I'm sorry.
21:21 Marissa has to accept it.
21:31 It's her own decision.
21:33 But, as a mother...
21:35 When people talk about our daughter...
21:38 It's too much.
21:42 It's too much to blame Marissa.
21:49 Aslam doesn't know how to walk on his own.
21:55 I think, it's not right.
21:57 I think, it's both of their fault.
21:59 But, I'm sad.
22:01 I'm sad for what happened to my daughter.
22:03 I hope things will get better.
22:08 I have to solve this.
22:11 I have to go to the Ministry of Religious Affairs.
22:15 As a mother, I don't have the right to decide...
22:20 ...whether I want to get married or not.
22:22 But, some people say...
22:24 ...if the governor doesn't want to, then you can get married.
22:27 But, the governor doesn't know.
22:29 I'm a little bit lost.
22:34 I hope things will get better.
22:38 She feels that she's right.
22:42 If she's pregnant, she has to go.
22:47 She has to go and solve this.
22:49 Does she know that she needs to go to the Ministry of Religious Affairs...
22:53 ...to settle this?
22:55 I knew about this from the start.
22:59 I told her.
23:02 I asked her to go.
23:05 Actually, the seal...
23:10 ...was with me.
23:13 So, if she goes, she has to go with me.
23:17 For now, I don't think she can solve this.
23:22 She said, she'll have time.
23:24 I'm not sure.
23:26 If Allah wills it, I'll try to ask her to go.
23:30 I'll let you know when it's done. - Sure.
23:33 I pray for you.
23:35 The truth will prevail.
23:38 Do you have anything to say to Marissa?
23:46 I pray for her.
23:52 For my children, for her.
23:55 I know she's safe out there.
23:59 I'm sure she's safe.
24:02 Take your time.
24:12 I'm sure my daughter is safe out there.
24:18 She's a good person.
24:22 But the decision she made...
24:27 ...may be wrong. I don't know what to say.
24:30 I pray for the best.
24:34 I don't know what to say...
24:38 ...to solve this.
24:42 I hope for the best.
24:44 I just want my children back.
24:54 If I can, I want to spend more time with her.
24:59 So that she won't feel neglected.
25:03 Or I can spend more time with other people.
25:06 Are you okay with this?
25:11 Do you guys talk when this issue happens?
25:14 I think I should solve this.
25:20 I'm the one who's taking care of my children.
25:22 If I say something wrong, people will say I'm too much.
25:27 I'll solve this.
25:30 The more time I spend talking to you...
25:33 ...the more I feel it's hard for you to make a decision.
25:39 Because you want to do the right thing.
25:43 I'm not the only one who's struggling.
25:47 It's tough.
25:49 Thank you so much.
25:51 Thank you again for joining me.
25:53 Let's give a round of applause.
25:55 Thank you.
25:57 Bye.
25:58 Bye.
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