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00:00:00That sums it up, sums it up. That's what a six one loss sounds like. It's like in money

00:00:12ball. Remember money ball when a Brad Pitt throws the bat across the locker room and

00:00:18it kind of just like sits there and you hear like the F and then just nothing. Yeah. That's

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00:00:52Um, where do you want to start? Where would you like to start Carl? I think I want to

00:00:57start with a comment and then, and only cause we'd share this in between, uh, first and

00:01:05second period. So Gucci says that the missed opportunities in the first period hurt them.

00:01:11The opportunity to extend the lead on the road and that first period, like they played

00:01:17so well in the first period you came, you came away thinking, wow, like this team is,

00:01:23this team's different. They, they had pushed back against Florida. Like Florida obviously

00:01:31was going to come out and try to be more physical, a little bit more aggressive on the four check

00:01:36and Boston pushed back in that first period. And you have the missed opportunity on the

00:01:40power play Marshawn. You have the two on one, uh, Beecher and Brazzo that you're, you're

00:01:46not able to capitalize. And those came back. Those came back to hurt you a little bit.

00:01:51I think if you extend that lead oil hit the post. Yeah. And that's not missed opportunity.

00:01:56That's all I know. But that was a chance. That's like, Oh, if that goes in, it's a totally

00:02:00different game. Yeah. And I think that's where they had played so well in that first period.

00:02:06And, and I thought that they were going to come out with a win today. And then they followed

00:02:11up that with the worst, well, the second worst period of the year in the second period.

00:02:16And then the third period was just the actual worst period of the year. I mean, to me, like

00:02:22I saw a comment like was Monday a mirage and we're going to get deeper into this. Um, I

00:02:29don't think Monday was a mirage. I think there's a lot of reasons. I mean, Florida turned it

00:02:33up in the second and the Bruins had no response. Now I think the big question we're going to

00:02:38ask over the next, you know, tonight, someone said no to viewers. There'll be no whiteboard

00:02:43tonight as it's broken in four pieces on the floor performance. Um, you know, the question

00:02:49is, you know, uh, where the Bruins dominated because Florida cracked the code because they

00:02:55figured something out or is it because the Bruins, uh, came off, uh, you know, exciting

00:03:01overtime win in game seven on Saturday, then that game on Monday.

00:03:06And then you have another, like, is it fatigue? Is it, um, are they gassed? You know, did

00:03:10they sort of, you know, was that kind of what this was tonight? Or as a, as I just kind

00:03:14of mentioned, was it Florida, did Florida figure something out? I mean, Florida had

00:03:18what 70 something hits. They set a franchise record for hits halfway through the third

00:03:23period. So like, is it that, is that what this is, you know, or, or is it, or is it

00:03:29just the Bruins, they need a day to rest and then there'll be back at it in game three.

00:03:33What do you think? No, I, I, I don't think that Monday was a mirage. I think that your

00:03:37first period shows that, that that's what Boston's capable of throughout the series.

00:03:42But the second that they stopped moving their feet and, and you combine that with mismanaging

00:03:47the puck in the defensive end, that's not a good combination. I think you turned over

00:03:54the puck on every goal. You were in possession of it. Now, now Florida's four checking and

00:04:01again, in this game, they gave you different looks, but their, but their four check was

00:04:06more connected. They were closer in support. Once that F1 made initial contact, that second

00:04:13player was right there. And they were more physical, but you, you had possession of the

00:04:18puck on, on every goal. And even you look at, was it the power bar cars, power play goal

00:04:27late there in the third, both coil and, and I lost track of the goals at the end there.

00:04:32I just, but it's just, it's, it's bizarre though. The amount of times they turn over

00:04:37the puck in the defensive end all evening, it doesn't, it doesn't matter who you're going to

00:04:42play. That's going to end up in the, in the back of your net. And so it was, they stopped skating,

00:04:50turn over pucks. And then there's a lack of communication there in the defensive end tonight,

00:04:55right? Like you saw it on, was it the first goal Watherspoon and four board four board

00:05:00goes to the far corner, turn over the puck, strong side. And that's, I mean, that's an

00:05:04unbelievable tip out front. So yeah, bad combination all the way around. But I think

00:05:10Boston showed you in the first period that they're capable, they're capable of beating

00:05:15Florida. They've just got to get back to, back to their own identity on Friday evening.

00:05:22I have a positive takeaway from tonight's game and I know you're going to hate it. I know you're

00:05:26going to hate it. And we can debate this because I think it's a big thing. And I know the comments

00:05:29are probably going to be split on this after it was five one. By that point, Swayman had been

00:05:36pulled for all mark, by the way, Montgomery comment. I'm we didn't have juice tonight.

00:05:42Swayman was terrific. We'll talk about the goal attending in a second, but so Swayman's been

00:05:46pulled at that point. Lena. So Mark comes in, gave up a goal. It's five one and the Bruins

00:05:52goon it up for a good stretch of time. Frederick Maroon posture, not gets in a fight to me.

00:06:00I like it. Now the posture knock fight is risky because if he gets hurt, it's like,

00:06:05what are you doing, dude? But he didn't get hurt. He didn't get hurt as far as we know.

00:06:11Right. Didn't seem to get hurt. Got right back up, throwing punches to me. That shows this is

00:06:15going to be a series. They're not just going to roll over. And the, the game was lost at that

00:06:21point. You know, you're trying to set a tone for Friday. You're going back home. You also won game

00:06:27one. We talked about this like after game one, right? You're happy, you know, you're happy to

00:06:30even get out of there with one. So you come out of there with one, you have a horrible game.

00:06:35I mean, we'll, we'll get into the technicalities in a bit. I mean, that was terrible, but you go

00:06:40out fighting and you literally fighting and you got posture knocks stepping up to fight

00:06:45Matthew could Chuck. That's not a fair fight at all. Steps in there takes two to the face.

00:06:51Like again, posture, not can't fight, but to me, it gives me a little bit of hope for this team

00:06:58going back because I think you're sending a tone. I think you're setting a tone. The game was lost,

00:07:04right? So to me, I, I don't know. I liked it. I liked it. What do you, what did you think?

00:07:13So my thing, I'm never a fan of that stuff at the end of the game. And because you've had,

00:07:22because you've had 50 minutes to do that, right? Like where was your pushback at two on,

00:07:26where was your pushback at three one, right? Like where's your pushback at four one,

00:07:31really through the, the second into the first part of that third period, there was,

00:07:37there was no pushback. And then now there's certainly a discontent has been

00:07:43bred on both teams. They don't like each other. I think that was clear with some of the

00:07:50celebrations, like Montour celebration should have been an unsportsmanlike like that leads to

00:07:56Marshawn's. Yeah. Marcia obviously is going to grab him there. Yeah. So like, I get that that's

00:08:01going to be a scrum. I just think that you've got to show that pushback a little bit earlier in the

00:08:06game, show a little bit more fight. And David Pashnuk cannot be taking that fight. I agree.

00:08:14He can't be, um, you, you like the idea that he shows a willingness, but I think someone's going

00:08:23to step in there, right? Cause that's Matthew Kachuk has fought plenty of times in this league

00:08:29and you don't want to see David Prash not go, go down, uh, in a, in a meaningless fight.

00:08:38Go ahead. The broadcast didn't really show how that started. Maybe I missed it,

00:08:42but they didn't show how it started. And if, you know, again, if it was provoked,

00:08:46you're right. I mean, someone should step in for him there. You don't expect him to do that, but

00:08:51you know, my first thought was, why is he fighting? But then when he got up on skate,

00:08:56then wasn't hurt. And, you know, Montgomery just said, you know, I'm really proud of posture knock,

00:09:00like the long-term ramification. I mean, the Bruins get a lot more out of that fight long-term.

00:09:05I think than the Panthers do Matthew could Chuck beat up David Pashnuk. Okay. Like,

00:09:09cool. Obviously, you know, like that was expected and Pashnuk put, you know,

00:09:14there wasn't like lops, you know, it was a quick fight, you know, Chuck hit him on the way down.

00:09:19So that, you know, Montgomery said that wasn't, you know, that's not part of the game,

00:09:23but you know, posture comes out of that. And to me, like, I think you get momentum out of that.

00:09:28I do. Cause that Carl, you would admit that's a game you, I mean, there are things they have

00:09:32to work on, but that's a burn the tape type of performance. Oh yeah. I mean, you're not,

00:09:37you're not going to go like as a coach, you're not going to go over maybe outside of special

00:09:42teams. You're not going to look at five on five play. You're probably going to bring in individual

00:09:47players and look at that as a group. You're not going to sit down and watch that tape.

00:09:52I mean, there's nothing, there's nothing. I'd be like a roast. Yeah. There's nothing,

00:09:57there's nothing good that comes out of that. They did on, on tape. You could see

00:10:04passionate talking before they went out on the ice. Like they were, and it seemed like,

00:10:11it seemed like Patra, uh, passionate kind of shook his head, took a sip of the water ball and

00:10:17almost predetermined that when they were going to go on the ice, that that was going to happen.

00:10:21I just, if you're around it, if you're around it, if you're the, if you're someone on the ice,

00:10:28right? Like that's when I was not tough. I will never be tough. Colton can beat me up

00:10:34here in Framingham. But if I'm on that ice and you see him drop your glove, drop like your teammate,

00:10:42David Posner, drop your gloves. You probably, I'm probably going to have to take them off and go in

00:10:47there and take a beating from that. You can chuck or jump off the bench. You can't jump off the

00:10:53bench. You get a 10 game. But, uh, yeah, they did. Uh, they did show the two of them talking

00:10:59and it didn't seem like passionate did agree to fight. What's funny is like all the Bruins guys

00:11:06who are good fighters, right? Frederick Maroon for Bert McAvoy can throw them, but we'll get

00:11:12to McAvoy in a second. I'm wondering what's going on there, but like for Bert Frederick Maroon,

00:11:18like, you know, the question is what would it have been different if they had lasted long enough to

00:11:23be around for that? I think, you know, but obviously they didn't, they were all gone at

00:11:26that point. I love how ESPN brings on Dave Jackson, the ref, uh, the ref analyst who just,

00:11:31I guess, sits there the whole game waiting for things like that to happen. Go to him. Like

00:11:36once a game, you know, I like, I wonder what his, does he have like a beautiful spread of

00:11:40food in his green room? Like, did you ever see the, um, ESPN commercial? Um, and I'm blanking

00:11:47on the football reporter's name. He's a let, he was a legend. And, uh, he, you know, he's,

00:11:52he's in his bedroom and he's like, mom, bring me my Chinese food.

00:11:55He just has like a, like the top of a, of a suit on, but like, you know, like no pants. I

00:12:00wonder if that's Dave Jackson. Um, but you know, Dave Jackson was mentioning they're going to hand

00:12:04out tens like their candy and they did. Everybody got misconducts. Everybody was gone. Um, I should

00:12:10remember that ESPN reporter's name. I, oh, I don't come to me at some point. Um, so again, I,

00:12:17I agree with John Clayton. Yes. Thank you, Luke. John Clayton. Thank you. Thank you. My God. I,

00:12:23I should not have remembered. I should, I should have remembered that.

00:12:26Thanks to Luke Jason. Luke is a real one. Luke is a real one. Um, uh, you know, again,

00:12:35you're right. They should have fought harder during the game. I completely agree with you.

00:12:39Um, did you think they look gassed at all?

00:12:45Well, I think, yeah, I mean, it's got to catch up to you at some point and where,

00:12:47when it catches, catches up to you is when you realize the game, uh, has gotten away from you.

00:12:52And it probably got away from you. Like you're saying that, that three to one goal with 0.3

00:12:56seconds left, that those are just demoralizing goals because you go in, you go into the locker

00:13:02room that that's all you can kind of focus on. Yeah. You can't focus on the positives of that

00:13:08period when you, a, you haven't played well. And you, like, if you get out of that period,

00:13:12two one, there's some hope that you can still get back into the game with a bounce.

00:13:16But when you go in knowing that you had full control of the puck, right? Like it's in the

00:13:20back of your net and that's what you're thinking about for 18 minutes. And then you, you come out

00:13:25and you're, you're literally flat. Like you, you turn over the puck on that fourth goal and the

00:13:30game is done and then you're not skating. And that, that's what ended up happening there in

00:13:35the third period. They're just no pushback. You, then you let, you let that fatigue set in,

00:13:42right? Like you, you're playing on adrenaline, you're playing on energy there in the first

00:13:46period, you're in the game, you've got a lead, you've created a bunch of chances. So you're not

00:13:50thinking about how you feel. And then as the game slowly started to get away from you, now

00:13:56that sets in a little bit. And then you think about it too, in that second period and late,

00:14:03you're taking back-to-back penalties. You killed some penalties there in the second period. Now you

00:14:08end up using the same people too much. And so people are now on the bench sitting there for

00:14:15an extended period of time where they wouldn't otherwise, if it was five on five.

00:14:19And, and so those are some of the things that, that caught up to you. And, and I don't know what

00:14:24it is, five, too many men on the ice penalties through the course of a, if you went and won a

00:14:34Stanley cup, if you played the full 28 games, five, too many men on the ice would be far too much.

00:14:41You wouldn't even have two, right? Like you look at it, the Bruins have had five and the rest of

00:14:46the leagues had four. And so I don't know what that comes from. Like if they were jumbling

00:14:51their lines all the way around, you could see a potential for that. But that's like,

00:14:59that's a lack of communication. That's a lack of attention to detail. And I just don't know,

00:15:04right? Like you can, you can want, you've watched prep hockey for a long time and we

00:15:11are certainly not at the level of the national hockey league. And we don't communicate as well

00:15:16as NHL coaches do. You won't see, I can't think of five, too many men on the ice calls this year

00:15:25throughout the, through all the 29, 30, 31. I can't remember any from the ones I watched.

00:15:31Yeah. That's a good question. Like Brian Mango asks, is it too, is too many men on the,

00:15:36men on the ice, always the coach fault? No, it's, it's not having been on both sides of that.

00:15:42Usually the coach gives you the heads up with, you know, 20 seconds into the prior shift,

00:15:48like who's going now, some, some, if they're trying to get certain match-ups that might

00:15:54come a little bit later. I don't think that Boston on the road is really trying to get

00:15:58the match-up. So usually 20 seconds into a shift, the prior shift, the line knows who's going out.

00:16:03And then that, that comes on that then becomes on the player to watch what's going on out in front

00:16:10of them and then make the requisite changes. The only way that that would be on the coaches,

00:16:14if they're making a last second change, which I just, I can't see them doing.

00:16:18So I think oftentimes too many men on the ice are, are on the players.

00:16:24If you were at home, I could kind of see it on trying to get a match-up and it's a

00:16:30last second change, but I don't, that doesn't often happen at the, at the pro level. Usually

00:16:36the coaches are make you giving you ample time to, to make those changes.

00:16:41Yeah. That too many men tonight came in a horrible spot. I think it was end of the

00:16:45second. They just killed off a penalty. Yeah. And it was two one at that point still.

00:16:50And then to have that happen was, was demoralizing. It really was that those last

00:16:56five to seven minutes, that second period, that was really where you lost the game.

00:17:00Cause by the, you know, I saw some people on Twitter being like, Oh, they should have brought

00:17:03Lena Solmark in for the start of the third. It was still three one at that point, you still were

00:17:08in it. Just a couple of quotes to kind of put a bow on the posture, not Chuck stuff. Posture not

00:17:15quote. He was asking me and I stepped up the game's over. And on a separate quote, I'm on

00:17:20I'm not afraid of him. I can take a punch. And someone replied to that and said, first time in

00:17:25my 38 years on this earth, I'm going to bed with a smile after a six one loss. I, again, I, I like

00:17:32that mentality. I know it's bad. I know it's, it's not smart. I know that you can't have David

00:17:38posture, not fighting, especially Matthew could Chuck. I completely agree given that we know

00:17:43most likely he did not get hurt. I just wonder if that's a potential momentum changer of like,

00:17:50if David Poshnok's out there dropping the freaking gloves, let's get our crap together.

00:17:54Like in all facets of our game, not just, you know, willy nilly fights. I mean, like

00:17:58moving the puck out of their own zone, playing with pace, having more of that first period

00:18:04mentality they had tonight throughout the whole game. And so to me, like, you know, I just wonder

00:18:09like if the Panthers poke the bear at the end there, the Poshnok fight Montour screams right

00:18:14in Marchand's face. Like I just, you know, I know that the Panthers are a big physical team.

00:18:20They had a bazillion hits tonight. We'll get into whether or not the Bruins can win games with that

00:18:25many hits doled out. But I don't know, part of me one, I mean, you know, could Florida move on

00:18:30from here and win three straight games and close the series potentially like, you know, but could

00:18:36they also have poked the bear tonight? I, I, I wonder what your thought on that is.

00:18:40I think, I think you'll find out in the first period, in the first 10 minutes. Like, I do think

00:18:47that you're going to get a bump from that fight. Like, I think the, the players in the locker room

00:18:52will rally around David Poshnok's effort to, to have a tilt with Matthew Kachuk. Do I, do I,

00:19:00do I think that's poked the bear? I don't think that you're a good enough. I don't think you're

00:19:06I don't think you're a good enough skating team up and down your lineup

00:19:12to force Florida to play the game that they, they don't want to play at their end.

00:19:18Right. Like you're still in this one, two, two, you can't get into an aggressive two on two.

00:19:22You're not as physical as a team. I think that's what's, I think that wore them down tonight,

00:19:27like on both ends. Like I think, I think Boston tried to be as physical as Florida.

00:19:31I don't think they're capable of doing that consistently over a seven game series.

00:19:37So I think you get a bump in the first 10 minutes. If Boston's able to get a lead in those 10 minutes,

00:19:41because they're, because they're going to be physical, because they're going to be aggressive,

00:19:45because there are going to be a ton of scrums and a ton of, so because there'll be a ton of scrums in

00:19:49those first 10 minutes, there'll be a ton of energy in the TD bank garden. Can you get a

00:19:55lead early? And then can you extend that lead? Can you get that first goal and then can you make it

00:20:01two, nothing? And can you then apply pressure to Florida? The only thing that scares me about

00:20:07tonight was you, by, by taking as many penalties as you did, you allowed Florida's power play to

00:20:16get hot. And yeah, you had seen, even though, and even though they hadn't scored in that first

00:20:24period, they had found Reinhardt with the bumper. They had gone back door to Verheeghe, where

00:20:30Swayman had to make saves. And then they get some momentum and a couple of those end up in

00:20:37the back of the net. They end up with three or four power play goals and one shorthanded, right?

00:20:43At the final tally?

00:20:45I know they had two for sure, two power play goals. I don't know if they had three or not, but

00:20:53that kind of, that kind of scares me a bit. I just don't think, I don't think, I don't think

00:21:00you skate well enough. The physicality, the physical game favors Florida. So I don't,

00:21:09I don't know if I want to engage in that game if I'm the Bruins.

00:21:14Yeah. Tonight the hits were 76, 70 in favor of Florida. Like can you,

00:21:19can the Bruins realistically win a game basically matching hit for hit? I don't, and again,

00:21:25Florida had, so to me, like what's even more telling is the fact that Florida had the puck

00:21:30way more tonight and they had 76 hits tip. You know, the Bruins were chasing the game,

00:21:36chasing things for a lot of the game and they got 70, right? Like usually the team that has

00:21:40the puck less oftentimes, not all the time, but oftentimes, um, we'll have more hits.

00:21:47So I agree. I don't, I don't know. It's not the Bruins game, you know, but the one positive is

00:21:52they kind of, I mean, they have some personnel out there that can, that can match it. I saw one

00:21:56person ask about Pat Maroon. Should Pat Maroon stay in the lineup? You know, should, should the

00:22:01Bruins get faster? Should like Jakob Lauko enter the series? Um, and you know, I think Maroon

00:22:09serves a purpose like there at the end, I think he would have been valuable when the game gets

00:22:14out of hand. You know, there, there were a couple, only a couple of good, you know,

00:22:19ozone four checks by him of kind of chasing guys down. If he, you know, if he gets within like a

00:22:25stick's length, length of someone, he can be effective, you know, but would you rather have

00:22:30a guy like Lauko? If you're going to go harder on the four check, if you're going to create more

00:22:33havoc, like, I just, I wonder if like, do you make that move Lauko in for, um, Maroon?

00:22:41Oh, well, first off I was wrong. Florida only had one power play goal.

00:22:45Oh, okay. I was trying to find the stats and I could not.

00:22:48I was too, I guess I felt like they had scored there in the second period. I know Barkoff's

00:22:52third period goal was a power play and they had the shorthanded one there on Montour. Um,

00:23:00I think if the game ended differently, you probably go. If the game was up and down

00:23:07there in the third period and you lost a close one, three to two,

00:23:10four, two, something like that. Empty netter. I think you go to Lauko. I think, you know,

00:23:14what you're getting into on Friday night. And I think Maroon probably has to stay in

00:23:19just because you don't have right. Like Frederick can fight. No,

00:23:24and I'm not that that's a big part of what the, what the playoff game is, but you know exactly

00:23:31what you're going to have on Friday night. So my expectation is that when Maroon would be in,

00:23:36at least if not for anything, just to settle some stuff down or to be there,

00:23:41be there as a presence or a deterrent. But, and you have, you've gone away from local for

00:23:49what now a eight ish games, seven games anyways. So I don't, I don't see much time. I don't see him.

00:23:57I don't see him coming into, uh, I don't see him coming into game three on Friday night.

00:24:03Someone mentioned put Lauko in for Van Riemsdyk. I have liked that third line of Van Riemsdyk,

00:24:09Frederick, and Brazzo. And I thought for stretches tonight, they were pretty good. Um,

00:24:16there's a lot I still want to get into McAvoy, but after this, I really do want to talk goal

00:24:25tending. I want to talk what they should do going into game three. I'm sorry. We have to do it. It

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00:25:46So the goaltending, someone immediately was like, no, please. No goaltending. Don't talk.

00:25:53That's me. It is you, but we have, we have to discuss it at least for a second.

00:25:58You go with him again. You have to go with Swainman again. Yeah. A hundred percent. Right. Like

00:26:06I think he's been so good. He was great in the first period.

00:26:09I think it's everyone else, everyone else around them. They're second and third period. I think,

00:26:15would you like him to make one of those saves in the second? Sure. But there's no reason for you

00:26:20to go away from him. And I think that's probably essentially what Montgomery said to him coming

00:26:25off the bench, like, Hey, here's a great opportunity to get your arrest team in front of you is not

00:26:29playing that well. Take the period off. I think that's probably what he said to him. And I think

00:26:35team in front of you is not playing that well. Take the period off and be ready to go on Friday.

00:26:41And now I'm not, I don't know what that's necessarily what he said, but I'm sure it's

00:26:47something along those lines. Hey, we let you down, be ready to go on Friday.

00:26:51I think there's two reasons, you know, Swainman's coming in just based off what's happened. One was,

00:26:56as you mentioned, Monty pulling them aside as he left the ice and being like, very like nodding

00:27:01his head and Swain was nodding his head. And the second is what Montgomery said after the game,

00:27:06Swainman was terrific. You're not going to say he's terrific and then not start him in game three.

00:27:11You know, and again, Linus Omar went in, you know, I think, what was it like two goals went

00:27:15in while he was out there. I mean, the team had pretty much given up at that point. He actually

00:27:19did make some good saves, but Swainman was the reason that, you know, it was close for,

00:27:24for most of that game. I mean, you know, again, like that first goal was a tip that,

00:27:31you know, the D again, a problem on the breakout decided not to go weeks. Yeah. Turnover decided

00:27:36not to go weak side, throw it up the strong side and forward was anticipating the weak side.

00:27:41Second goal was McAvoy didn't have his stick. Cause he got crushed by our post. So lost a stick,

00:27:46never went and got it back. And then 10 seconds later, they, they put it in. And then the third

00:27:50goal, McAvoy standing straight in front of Swain, but he never sees the shot. So like,

00:27:54then the fourth goal was beginning of the third pass in front of the net.

00:27:58Um, I, I don't put any of those on Swainman. I know that, I mean, you could make the argument

00:28:03that goal right before the end of the second, um, you'd like to have, but even that, I mean,

00:28:09he can't, he's completely screened. So this hits at a bigger point, right? Cause we,

00:28:13Oh, what were you going to say? Yeah. But in each, in, you look back though,

00:28:16it was even the second one, which is you had full possession of the park. McAvoy gets four

00:28:21checks, right? Like does a great job. Florida does a great job. They're really aggressive with

00:28:25that force for checker, uh, forcing me into the strong side. He gets checked, turns, loses a stick,

00:28:30turns over the park. Right. And then ends up in the back of the net because he's on it, unable

00:28:37to pick up a stick. Um, and I think that's the one thing that, and I don't know how you work on

00:28:44that, right? Like management of the park in these danger areas tonight. And at times during the

00:28:51playoffs, they turn the pocket or far too much. And it's, yeah. And it's been consistent, right?

00:28:58Like it has, it has been a result of four check. That's every day. And then it wasn't, it wasn't

00:29:09like Florida can't, they didn't send the two on two every shift. They didn't. Right. Like they

00:29:20threw different looks at them and I didn't, what I didn't do, uh, like enough of a study on was,

00:29:25are they giving different looks with different lines or does Paul Marie Maurice, just let them

00:29:31read the game. And that dictates, uh, the four check that they're going to go with. A lot of

00:29:37those, a lot of those turnovers were on the one to two, which is fairly passive. And you're still

00:29:44throwing pucks up the strong side. And that's, and that, and with those two, which is fine. Like

00:29:50you tell your kids all the time, like, all right, go off the wall because Florida still got to get

00:29:55it off the wall and then get to the, you know, get it to the middle of the rink in order to be

00:30:01successful. And that's why the first goal is so frustrating to turn over on the wall. And then

00:30:06they get it right from Montour out front to Laurence, right? Like there's no one there.

00:30:12So yeah, the, the management of the park and the turnovers and the swings and own end,

00:30:18like that stuff has got to change for, for, for game three.

00:30:23It does. It absolutely does. And it's been, I mean, you know, Florida started this problem

00:30:28for the Bruins last post-season. This was a, this was when this really reared its head

00:30:33and then it was, you know, prevalent in the make-believe series. And, and it was there

00:30:36tonight. It's so funny because when coil scored that goal, it was all off an awesome four check

00:30:41of, of Aaron Eckblad. And I'm like, Oh my God, like the Bruins are going to have the Panthers

00:30:45taste their own medicine. Like the Bruins have this, they're getting chances. Then the period

00:30:51ended. And that's, and that's, and that's, you know, that's where it ended. Someone asked any

00:30:57reason this team would abandon the high lob. It seems their weak play up the wall is consistently

00:31:01costing them high lob is risky, right? Cause if you, if you fan on it, that's a puck just

00:31:05sitting in the middle of the slot. I feel like high lob is sort of a, like a last resort,

00:31:10you know, like high lob is tough when you're under pressure, right? You got to get it on

00:31:15the heel of your stick, get it up in the air and hope that you've got everything on it.

00:31:19I mean, essentially that's why you see them. I mean, they are doing it in a sense. They're

00:31:24just going off the glass. Going off the glass is to prevent against a pinching defender,

00:31:31which Florida did a little bit. So a pinching defender is just their strong side defenseman

00:31:36steps down on top of a winger. They did that at time. And I think that's the thing that has

00:31:43probably got Boston confused is they're showing them multiple looks throughout the game. They're

00:31:49not sticking with one particular four check, which Boston seems Boston seems to do. They're

00:31:55pretty consistent with their one, two, two four check throughout the whole game. And so at times

00:32:03you can create turnovers. If that F one's really aggressive, if you don't, it's an easy breakout.

00:32:09And I think at least for Boston, they've got to think about what they're seeing in that

00:32:14a half second of identifying what kind of four check you're seeing that puts more pressure on

00:32:19you. And instead of having that extra time to make the play, you know, for Boston and they've shown

00:32:27they're just going to put it up off the glass. And if you can be patient and your defense, the

00:32:32defense from floor is not pinching and you saw it tonight, they keep in a lot of pucks at the

00:32:37offensive blue Florida does. And then then that just creates confusion. So I like the adjustment

00:32:44that I would make here for Boston is they've got to create more turnovers in the offensive end.

00:32:52And then once they create those turnovers in the offensive end, can you can you create exchanges?

00:32:59Can you create confusion in the offensive end? Can you activate your D like you did

00:33:04on the lower right goal the other night? You you've got to force Florida defend for more of

00:33:10the game. And you didn't you didn't do that. And clearly, right, like you had 16 shots

00:33:15the for a 60 minute game. That's that's not good enough. So you weren't you weren't putting enough

00:33:21pressure on Florida. You weren't creating turnovers. You didn't do enough to force them

00:33:26to defend. And as long as they're defending, then they're not hitting you. And that that's

00:33:33their priority is to put pressure on your defense to to to physically hit them every chance they

00:33:41get. And so you've you've probably got to make an adjustment to your to your four check. You're

00:33:46probably going to have to look at your zone entries being right. Again, it's not what you

00:33:50want to do. You consistently talk about possession of the puck, but you look at the last two teams

00:33:55that you've played, Florida and Toronto. They're consistently putting pucks in behind you.

00:34:00And then, right, like tonight, but creating those creating those offensive opportunities.

00:34:05So you think the Bruins should potentially next game go, you know, switch things up,

00:34:09depending on, you know, I know we've talked about this a lot. You can't do the 212

00:34:13all game. You wear yourself down. But you think that should be, you know, something

00:34:18they incorporate more next game? Or is there a different way they can kind of force turnovers?

00:34:22Yeah, I mean, there's a few different things you you you can do. And you saw Florida do it

00:34:29tonight. Oh, do we have what I think we have? Oh, it's a different. Is this a different whiteboard?

00:34:36Yeah, this is the 2024 version. I like it. I love it. It's it's out the vibes. The series

00:34:43has shifted. The Bruins are winning now. The Bruins are going to win this series. They're up.

00:34:47Yeah. So Florida did a

00:34:53they had more support in their one to two. So their f1 came down and we can't we can't

00:34:59see the bottom half. We got to do we got to do the top half. Yep. Let's do it like that.

00:35:04I don't know how I'm going to do this because I bought this one seems better. Can you see this?

00:35:10I can. Yes, I can. There we go.

00:35:12So their f1 came down was really aggressive. Once they made contact this inside guy actually

00:35:19came down at times. And just so contacts made here and this person was right down,

00:35:24you still sealed off the wall. Because the only way for Boston to go up was in this area. And

00:35:31they were creating turnovers here. And they couldn't get out the weak side just because

00:35:35this f2 was so aggressive. It's not a it's not a two on two where you're just those first two

00:35:41four checkers are going immediately. It's you're watching f1 make contact. And the second it looks

00:35:48like he's going to make you're right there to create some create support. So I think Boston

00:35:54can do that. They can go to that two on two at times. Again, you're not going to be able to do

00:36:01it for the 60 minute game. But you've got to force Florida to defend far more than you did tonight.

00:36:09And even more than you did really in in game one. That man on man I think personally is an

00:36:15advantage you can get Florida plays in the defensive end you can you can just create

00:36:21so much confusion if if you're willing to activate your D if you're willing to create exchanges. So

00:36:27exchanges like the passenger comes up the wall all the time with the puck. Once he gets to the hash

00:36:33mark and gets off the wall, then the defender will slide down and it's just who am I supposed

00:36:37to take right. So force them to defend more. Find a way to create more turnovers. Can't turn over

00:36:46the puck yourself at the offensive blue. You've got to put it behind them. And and and you got

00:36:54to force them to worry about physical contact. And if if your idea of zone entry is middle

00:37:00middle drive kick wide. It's hard that that's a hard way to live and there's especially in

00:37:09playoff hockey. You see and you heard them talk about tonight like back pressure both on Boston

00:37:15and Florida saw like everyone is taught to back check to the mall. You back check the puck until

00:37:24the blue line and then you'll move to the house. And so there's so much there's so much.

00:37:29It's so clogged up at the offensive blue. It becomes hard. Yeah. In the regular season,

00:37:34there's a little bit more time and space, but not so much in the playoff. And so for zone entry,

00:37:39you want to put it put it behind them. And anytime a defensive has to turn their back.

00:37:46Like I don't think you play your men's league game and that's scary. Like anytime you turn

00:37:53and I'm drunk, dude. Some drunk dude just come in for me from my back. You know,

00:37:59like here it comes. Yeah, I agree. That's stressful. That's stressful. It is

00:38:07to to consistently. And for Charlie McAvoy, he he has to know that every time he turns his back,

00:38:13he's going to get hit. I don't know what the stats are. The other night he took a took 12 hits

00:38:20on and to just to put that stress on Florida would be would be great. Put the puck and put

00:38:27I know it's boring. I know like Jamie Rice at Babson said, imagine playing basketball and you

00:38:37grab a defensive rebound and you throw it right back to him. Like that's what a dump in is.

00:38:41Like you're just getting rid of the puck to get rid of it. I think in this scenario,

00:38:45you're going to have to you're going to have to do that. And if you're approaching with speed into

00:38:50the into the offensive zone, you have a good chance. You know, you have a good chance of

00:38:54winning that 50 50 puck. I also think I don't think the Bruins are skilled enough up front to

00:38:59execute smooth zone entries in a series like this. I think it's just too physical and things like

00:39:06that. So I agree with you. You know, and the other thing is Bobrovsky faced what, 15 shots tonight?

00:39:13He didn't look didn't look sharp at all. Right. I mean, you have that shot from coil that goes

00:39:18off the post. There were those big rebounds in the first. A lot of commenters are mentioning,

00:39:23you know, you should have buried some of those. Obviously, yeah, they should have.

00:39:27But like to me, like, I don't if I'm a Panther fan, I don't come out of this game or from the

00:39:33Panthers. I don't come out of this game feeling any more confident about Bobrovsky. This was a

00:39:37that the team played so well in front of him. So I think if you're the Bruins,

00:39:41like you mentioned coming out in those first 10 minutes on Friday night and setting a tone and

00:39:45playing with energy, get shots on him. Like rebounds are getting kicked out. And to me,

00:39:51like, I that's one area that I, you know, because we mentioned after game one, go upstairs on

00:39:57Bobrovsky. It seems to be, you know, he seems to have a little bit of trouble with it, relatively

00:40:02speaking. And that wasn't answered tonight. You know, like I still that's still a question mark

00:40:08for me. And I think that's still a way for the Bruins to kind of get more offense is if you go

00:40:13upstairs on him and and and kind of do what they did in game one offensively. And it goes back to

00:40:19what you said, like forced turnovers and because the Panthers have been turning the puck over.

00:40:24That's the thing. Like the Panthers have had some trouble breaking the puck out.

00:40:28So I think that's an area, I think, where the Bruins can also expose to get more offense

00:40:31going forward. Yeah, I think you saw on the Charlie Coyle shot. He tried to expose that

00:40:37and Bobrovsky wasn't able to handle it. It's hard to evaluate what Bobrovsky's game looked like.

00:40:42He only faced 16 shots in the goalie. Goal against him was a backdoor tap in.

00:40:50Yeah, I mean, you went 20. Would you go 22 minutes without a shot in this game?

00:40:55And so like whether he struggled or not, who knows, because you never put pressure on them

00:41:01essentially from the first period on. I mean, what did you have six shots in the first

00:41:0710 minutes of that game and then you had 10 the rest? Like it's a little bit of a problem.

00:41:13And if you think, and you, was it still, it was, they somehow came, they came out with a power

00:41:19play on that Van Riemsdijk scrum and they're still looking for, they're still looking for the perfect

00:41:26play. They're still looking to go backdoor. And that's what we talked about in the Toronto series.

00:41:31That's so ingrained in them, but you're able to make adjustments. And here's how I know you were

00:41:37able to make adjustments. When, when Florida went high to low and Boston had done such a great job

00:41:43of defending out front of, of the net and game one, what is the adjustment that they made in

00:41:48this game tonight, Evan, with their shots made that Florida, their shots on the point, what,

00:41:53what adjustment did they make tonight? They got guys in front of the net.

00:41:56And so they had guys in front of the net, but they were purposely putting it wide.

00:41:59Like the idea that it was going to be a tip, or if it, if it wasn't, it might kick off the,

00:42:03the backboard and a Swainman's got to, got to scramble a little bit. Like they were trying to

00:42:08make him a little bit more uncomfortable tonight. They changed their game, right?

00:42:13Like maybe that's more ingrained, maybe the shooting. And again, I don't watch Florida

00:42:18clearly as much as I do Boston, but they made the adjustment to shoot it wide,

00:42:23to get net front traffic, to make Swainman uncomfortable from the first shift on.

00:42:28And Boston's got right. Like the swipe that could Chuck took Adam

00:42:33Boston's got to make an adjustment. Again, they'll, they'll have to make an adjustment. If, if,

00:42:37if they can make an adjustment in game three, they'll have success. If they don't Florida,

00:42:42right. Like it seemed to have found the formula to kind of push back at Boston.

00:42:47What's the D zone adjustment there that you'd make to prevent that block, block more shots,

00:42:53uh, you know, cover the, cover the, um, uh, when the puck goes wide, uh, cutting them off from

00:43:00going behind the net, cutting them off from going, like, what, what, what would your adjustment be

00:43:05on that? Well, a number one, don't turn the puck over. That'd be ideal. That would be really ideal.

00:43:12That would help. Yes, this is true. Um, I think it's a little bit. And so the disc game look like

00:43:21I don't, they defended like Toronto defended against you in game one and in the game one of

00:43:28the last series, which was, eh, I'm not going to close out. I'm not going to get my stick in lane.

00:43:34So I think that, I, I think you're going to have to, the adjustment is, is a quick close out. I

00:43:41think they, I think they're trying to do a good job of defending out in front of the net. I think

00:43:46they've by and large done a great job of blocking shots. I think knowing that it's going low to high,

00:43:52just pass from the goal line out that strong side winger has got to do a better job of preventing

00:43:58that shot just in general and force them to go with little chips down the wall. And then when

00:44:04you can go with the little chip down the wall, like if I, I don't have to go to the board, do I?

00:44:09No, you don't. When you then like, if, if that strong side winger gets, gets out quicker and

00:44:16you force the little chip down the wall, that's when, what you're talking about, when I can

00:44:21anticipate that and I, and I jumped that pass, whether that's a center, whether that's the

00:44:27defenseman, you just at this point can't allow that shot to happen.

00:44:33Let's keep it in the D zone.

00:44:34Yeah. So quick. Yeah. So Brian's asking quick close out, like, what is that?

00:44:39So typically your strong side wing stands at the top of the circle, uh, uh, of the face-off circle

00:44:46to, uh, prevent, to prevent either a winger coming off the wall and attacking the net, or

00:44:53if they make that pass out to the strong side defenseman, I can get out there tonight. When

00:45:00that pass got to the strong side defenseman, it was casual. I'm going to block the shot

00:45:06as opposed to, all right, that pass is gone. I've got to skate full speed, get stick extended and

00:45:12make sure a shot's not a reality today. Uh, Boston was okay with that shot coming from the outside.

00:45:19It was, Hey, we've relied on Swainman. He's made these saves. I don't need to close, close out as

00:45:26quick as I, as I need to. So they've got to now, instead of allowing that shot, knowing that

00:45:33Florida was aggressive out front of the net, you can't let that shot to happen. And you've got to,

00:45:37you've got to force them now to make plays behind the net. Yes, I agree. Um, I want to keep things

00:45:44in the D zone though, because I want to talk McAvoy. This is going to be a big topic over the

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00:47:53McAvoy this, you know, as I mentioned a lot of people talking about this, you know not good

00:48:00tonight. I think he's struggled at times this post-season dropped his stick. Didn't go and pick

00:48:07it back up and got beat to, you know, on a net front goal on the second one.

00:48:11And got beat to, you know, on a net front goal on the second one,

00:48:15blocked Swayman on that third goal. I thought he also turnovers wise had a few. It's been a

00:48:21continuous thing. A lot of people are speculating like, is he injured? Is there something? I haven't

00:48:26noticed something that could be an injury. Like I haven't seen, you know, is it a hand? Is it,

00:48:32is it something with his knee? Like, I don't know. I have not seen anything with, with,

00:48:37with his game. I know like Pete Blackburn kind of speculated on Twitter. Oh, he dropped his stick.

00:48:42He's been doing that a lot lately. It's like a hand. I haven't really noticed that to me.

00:48:47Like there's a couple of things. I mean, obviously like defensemen are going to make mistakes,

00:48:53but his have seemed to be a lot. And the other end of that is he needs a big play.

00:48:58You need something big out of McAvoy, whether it's a really good shutdown game,

00:49:02whether he has a lot of blocks, a lot of hits, a lot of clean zone exits,

00:49:05a goal and assist, like they need more from him. And, and it hasn't been there, but I think the

00:49:11bit, the stuff that stands out the most is the turnovers and just the problems in his own zone

00:49:17right now. And you know, he's getting the tough, he's getting the tough matchup.

00:49:21They mostly stuck Lindholm with him tonight. They mostly went up against that Kachuck line,

00:49:27but I mean, what, what needs to change with him? What, what kind of, what have you thought about

00:49:30him so far? Well, I think overall, I, myself personally, I'm a huge Charlie McAvoy fan.

00:49:37I am too. I think he's fantastic. I think the thing that's hard for him

00:49:42and you look at pick your top 10 defensemen in the national hockey league, right? Very rarely

00:49:52are they getting those first line matchups and he can, he consistently gets those every night

00:50:00because he's such a good defender. He's a physical player, right? Like someone that needs

00:50:06to make physical contact. So those hits over the course of the playoffs are going to wear on him.

00:50:11Now, if you look at him and this is the question that I would have, if you look at him

00:50:19in the regular season, and now clearly there's less time and space, he makes a ton of plays

00:50:25under pressure to the middle of the rank all the time. And now by and large, because they've seen

00:50:31a one, two, two four check those, those plays aren't available, but because he can make those

00:50:36play and he'll make those passes under duress on his backhand of the middle of the rank all the

00:50:42time. No big deal. He did it consistently all year. That lends me to believe that he's good

00:50:47enough to make a reverse and get out the weak side. That's what I want to know. Has it been

00:50:52mandated? Has it been mandated that chip it up? Let's get it off the glass. That's going to be

00:51:00our breakout for the series because he, Lindholm, you've seen it enough. Carlo, they're consistently

00:51:08going off the glass. Now, every once in a while they'll go out the weak side, but it hasn't been

00:51:13a priority. And so a lot of those turnovers, if not all of them for goals have been just chips

00:51:19off the glass. I didn't see that throughout the regular season. So that'd be my only question.

00:51:24Has it been a coaching point that that's what they want to do? And I'm not saying it,

00:51:28it is, I don't know. Or are they feeling the pressure of those hits and they just want to

00:51:32get rid of it? It's, I just, I just, I've seen him make too many high leverage plays

00:51:39to have these, this many turnovers over the course of nine games in a playoff series.

00:51:46So I don't know if that's a coaching point. I don't know if pressure's gotten to him. I don't

00:51:49know if he's injured. He's way too good of a player to play the way that he has in,

00:51:55in, in these playoffs, I would say. I think, I think the one thing that I think the one thing

00:52:02that may be unfair is I think people, because there's the idea that he's a top 10 defenseman

00:52:08in the national hockey league. I think people want him to have 70 and 80 points. That's not

00:52:13ever going to be who he is. He's capable of putting up 50 to 60, but being a shutdown guy,

00:52:19that is physical on a night in night, night out basis. And I don't know that the, like that,

00:52:26that high end offense, I don't know why I did this, but I don't know what that was, but I don't

00:52:34know what the high end offense is never going to come from him. And that's why you've seen them

00:52:37consistently flip flop and they even did it tonight, right? Like low ride on that first

00:52:42power play. He's always, he's always been a flip flopped in and out of that, right? Like even

00:52:48I think, I don't know if it was 19 or 20, like Grizzly was running the first power play when

00:52:53McAvoy was on the team. So yeah, it was jazz hands. I it's good jazz hands. I liked it.

00:53:00Whenever we mentioned high end off, it's not allowed to do that. President Reagan has,

00:53:05has weighed in. It's really hard to vote play as part of a first deep air in the playoffs night

00:53:09in and night out for 25, 28 minutes a night. I think he's so focused on defending that he's,

00:53:13he's uneasy with the puck on his stick. I don't think that's wrong. I mean, it's that's like,

00:53:19go back. It's funny. Go back and watch. Sometimes when I procrastinate doing work,

00:53:23when I procrastinate writing about St. Mark's there are times I'll go back and watch like 2011,

00:53:31you know, Stanley cup highlights or whatever from, from that year or just Bruins highlights

00:53:35in general. And like Chara and Seidenberg were tasked with those top minutes, shut down minutes,

00:53:42fair amount of turnovers, fair amount of turnovers, quite a few. And again, like, I think,

00:53:48I think that is a thing where it's like, you're just defending so hard that when the puck is on

00:53:51your stick and you've got to make a play, you know, obviously we, you expect McAvoy to make

00:53:57them, but turnovers are going to happen. The problem is some of these turnovers have ended

00:54:01the back of their net. And then the two goals tonight, I mean, I forget if he was, honestly,

00:54:06I stopped really focusing on the goals Florida was scoring after the fourth. But again, like that

00:54:13second goal and then the third goal, you know, those weren't really turnovers from him. Those

00:54:18like lost stick. And then the third one was the screening Swayman. He's screened. He's screened

00:54:26on two goals against Toronto as well. Game six. Yeah. So that, that has been a little bit of an

00:54:32issue, but I don't remember what your question was. No, my thing it's interesting though,

00:54:38like with McAvoy, he did go down the tunnel at one point, I think it was to start the third

00:54:43period. I think he was down the tunnel. I know he went down the tunnel for something else.

00:54:49And I haven't seen an update. I haven't seen Montgomery get asked about it. I'm just looking

00:54:55at Ty Anderson's Twitter. Who's been providing great coverage down there. So, so it was Connor

00:54:59Ryan. It was my two buddies. So I got to give him a shout outs. I haven't seen any new things on

00:55:04them. No, I think that was a good point by Robert here that I know. I remember when he went down the

00:55:08tunnel, he got hit earlier. There was some blood and he couldn't play with the blood on his jersey.

00:55:13And so they had to take care of that, but I, he came back and played. So that's right. That's

00:55:18right. That's right. So yeah, I am. I do wonder like, you know, you mentioned it, like what is

00:55:23the issue with him? Is it a mandate from the coaches on going up the strong side? Is it

00:55:27hurt? Yes. Ty does give me crap, but I also give him rides home sometimes so that we can work with

00:55:33that. But I do wonder, is it mandate? Is it an injury? Like, I think it is worth watching with

00:55:39him and I, it goes back to like, you need something big out of Charlie McAvoy in game three.

00:55:45You know, like, is it a big hit? Is it just a clean defensive game?

00:55:52Is it a goal? Is it a really nice, you know, setup? I just think you need something. You need,

00:55:59he just kind of like, you know, how Poshmark had that obviously the game seven OT winner

00:56:03and he was kind of in a little bit of a Valley McAvoy's in the Valley like that. Now his is not

00:56:08OT game winner, but he just, I think there just needs to be that thing that turns on for him.

00:56:15That kind of sets it straight. If it isn't an injury, if it's an injury related thing,

00:56:18then that's what you're going to have. You're gonna have to deal with this.

00:56:20You know, you're gonna have to either play through it or send him a game,

00:56:24but you can't afford to sit him a game. I don't think at all.

00:56:27No, you're not going to sit him at all. I think, I think at this point,

00:56:32yeah, he's probably dealing with aches and pains. It's probably a little bit more than that.

00:56:36This would be my guess. This is not anything that's informed.

00:56:41I think he's feeling the pressure and the easiest thing to do is get the puck up off the glass.

00:56:45And so he's fighting the puck. He's lost a little bit of confidence.

00:56:51But he's a gamer. I think he's going to have big moments in the series.

00:56:54In order for you to win the series, he's, he's got to be the best defenseman on the ice for you.

00:56:59And I think the question is, and I see some people here in the comment section,

00:57:03it does peak, is he healthy enough to come back in? And I didn't think I'd ever be saying this,

00:57:09you know, him coming back, coming back into, into the lineup gives you another responsible

00:57:16right-handed defenseman that can kind of come back in and he's not going to take on all those

00:57:23moments, all those matchups. Sorry. But I think he can give you a little bit more than you got

00:57:28out of that third pair tonight. Yeah. I mean, you put, you put peak,

00:57:32you put peak back in who's been practicing in a regular Jersey and just wasn't in the lineup

00:57:39tonight. I don't think. I think if you can, if you can get him back with four bird, that's a good

00:57:45shutdown pair that can take minutes and four Burke, by the way, I thought tonight, again,

00:57:49I thought he was, I think he went down the tunnel at one point. Cause he took one off,

00:57:54off the hand. He had a bunch of block shots. I mean, I tweeted out, he eats pucks,

00:57:58like it's food that dude eats pucks, like the chips Ahoy. And they're like,

00:58:03like it's lock and Tina chicken parm. That's what he eats.

00:58:06I was just going to ask you, do you eat a lot of chips?

00:58:08No, not, not particularly. No, but they're pretty good. I'm a more of an Oreo guy. I don't know why

00:58:14chips are hose. The first thing, but I, I take it all back. I meant to say chicken parm from

00:58:18lock and Tina that that's more acceptable. But I think if you can roll out in game three, if you

00:58:24can roll out low raw or Lindholm and McAvoy low Ry Carlo, or, you know, switch them around and

00:58:31then for Britain peak, I mean, for Britain peak can take a ton of PK shifts, obviously.

00:58:37And Brian's calling me a liar for not eating a lot of chips. I do enjoy a dessert from time to

00:58:41time, I must admit. But if you can roll those six D out, I think that does that. That's definitely

00:58:49in your favor because you've got guys there. And I don't think Watherspoon has been bad. I just,

00:58:56I think after tonight, if Pete can play, I think you try peak in game three. Yes.

00:59:02All right. So my thing would be with an aggressive four check. And I understand what you're thinking,

00:59:07like the physical, the physical aspect of the game, right? Like that the one, the one way to

00:59:12combat. I was almost going to talk myself into something, but I don't even want to mention it.

00:59:19But you'll understand. Oh, God. Yeah, I know. The one way to combat the one way to combat

00:59:26a physical four check is sense of urgency in skating on the set it. You need,

00:59:38you need to get to the puck first and you need to be able to break it out with some sort of pace.

00:59:43And I'm not saying grizzly. I'm saying Watherspoon is a better skater than for Bart. I think he's

00:59:49shown you through the seven games in the Toronto series and through these first two games here.

00:59:56I thought he was particularly good and forbert was good in game one. And I'm not advocate. I'm

01:00:01not advocating for grizzly, although I don't dislike grizzly as much as everyone in the

01:00:06comment section does. But I would go peek and Watherspoon myself. That's fair. I mean, again,

01:00:12you know, I think if you're going to be pinned in your own zone, forbert's probably better at,

01:00:18you know, blocking shots and clear in the front, but also you don't want to be pinned in your own

01:00:21zone. So why do you want to strive for mediocrity? And I know, I know you don't.

01:00:29I'm not saying that forwards mediocre. If the game called for him to be in the game,

01:00:34he's a great option. Like, especially on the PK great player. I'm just saying,

01:00:40you need to be able to get the pucks and break the puck out of your zone. That's it.

01:00:45I mean, no, I agree with you. Not that easy, but to me right here, to me right here in Framingham,

01:00:53sitting on my, in my chair, the game's very easy. There's no pressure on me. So yeah,

01:00:59put peak and Watherspoon together because if they lose, if they lose, no one's firing me.

01:01:06This is true. This is true. They aren't. It is fair though. I mean, like I don't hate it. I

01:01:10mean, again, tonight, Watherspoon, when Watherspoon and forward were on the ice,

01:01:14they were outchanced five to 19. So I think, you know, again, that's not good, right? That's math.

01:01:20No, that's bad. That's not good. That's not good. I, I agree with you. I think, you know,

01:01:27there's a lot of hate for grizzly in these comments. I don't think it's warranted.

01:01:32And I forgot about Shattenkirk mill completely. Sorry. I did that too. Is he done?

01:01:40I think he might be too slow to play in this. I think that's a combination

01:01:45for, for Shattenkirk too slow, not physical enough. So he doesn't have, he doesn't have

01:01:52either one to be able to play against Florida. I think in the Toronto series, not,

01:01:59not traditionally an aggressive four checking team could make plays with a little bit of time

01:02:03and space. I don't think that's the way it played out. And that's probably why he sat out,

01:02:07but I don't think this series is tailor-made for Shattenkirk.

01:02:11I agree. Someone just asked what were Forbert's chances. It tracks chances when they're on the

01:02:16ice. So when Forbert was on the ice, the collective five on five unit had five chances,

01:02:23four and 19 against, I don't know if Forbert even had a single chance tonight. I wouldn't expect it.

01:02:29Yeah. I get that line of thinking. Oh, while there's food, I'm fine with that.

01:02:33To me though, the big thing I think is if you can bring in Andrew peak,

01:02:36you bring in Andrew peak and you put it on the right side and then you choose between

01:02:40four border Watherspoon. It depends what they value more, you know you know,

01:02:46Forbert's a notorious penalty killer, but as you said, while there's food is more nimble with the

01:02:49puck, a little bit better for skater. You know, if they think it's going to be a physical kind

01:02:55of gong show, like it was tonight, I guess Forbert plays a part, but while there's food,

01:02:59there's no problem mixing it up. I like, I like Watherspoon. I like what he brings. It's so

01:03:04I don't remember. Sorry. No, I interrupted you. If he can go in, you got to put peak in.

01:03:09That's the big thing. Yeah, no peaks going to go in. And I think I don't,

01:03:12I don't remember if it was game one, game seven. I kind of like Watherspoon now.

01:03:18I do too. I've liked Watherspoon for a long time. I remember Pete Blackburn was on Bruins beat and

01:03:22he was like, I don't like Parker Watherspoon. And I said, I do for what he can be as a,

01:03:27a seventh defenseman is a guy who can slot in. Like that's the guy you'll want reliable.

01:03:33Like I have a big Parker Watherspoon guy. Yeah. Well, I'm a big park, Parker Watherspoon at six,

01:03:38seven, not a big Parker Watherspoon guy at three, four, but right, right where he slotted to be.

01:03:46I think he's giving you everything that he can give. And that's, that's all you want from,

01:03:55from a player like him. He's he's been great. I agree.

01:04:01Um, so on D most likely going into game three, we would keep the top four as is

01:04:07again, low rise, but great. Someone asked me earlier and forgive me. I, we were talking about

01:04:11something else. I didn't address it. Someone asked me if I think low rise taking grizzly spot next

01:04:15year. Yeah, I do. I don't think grizzly is not coming back next year. That's my, I think he's

01:04:20done. Uh, he's unrestricted, right? So he is, someone will give him a ton of money and good

01:04:25for him. I, we are, Carl, I don't know if you knew this, uh, this network, uh, me, Connor Ryan,

01:04:31we are a pro bag chasing, uh, podcast. We, we are very for players going out and getting their

01:04:39money, whether it's in Boston or wherever pro bag, exactly what we are. So, um, good for grizzly.

01:04:46He'll go on and, and, and someone will give him good money. Um, and so cam asked me this earlier,

01:04:52what are your thoughts on the emergence of low ride? I think he was, has been great. Um,

01:04:57you know, tonight really wasn't his game, but it wasn't anybody's game. I didn't think he was that

01:05:01bad tonight. Like I didn't really notice him being bad unless I missed something, but he wasn't an

01:05:07issue. I think he continues to be solid. He skates the puck. Well, he's a guy who can break the puck

01:05:13out of your own zone. So I do think that that's probably something that we've missed over the

01:05:18course of this hour is that the power plays dried up and you tried to, you tried to insert him on

01:05:28that power play to give you a little bit something different. And I don't know what the, you know,

01:05:34I don't know what they were looking for from him, but that power play has got to get going.

01:05:39You've got to create momentum. And they haven't done that through this series, right? Like two,

01:05:46two games that are goal. I think they had an opportunity to go up to nothing. I don't

01:05:53remember if it was one, one or one nothing with a power play there. And it's just been flat.

01:06:01It's been flat. There's no movement. Um, you see kind of, you see Florida moving and adjusting and

01:06:11going down to the goal line and looking for that bumper. If they're not going down to that

01:06:15bumper, that guy off the half wall is going back door and Boston's just stagnant. It gets up top,

01:06:22you kick it to the edges and then what, right? Like, like, so your power plays really predictable

01:06:28at this point. Um, and so that's to create momentum and to an extent in order to extend

01:06:37a lead because you're scoring five on five goals. I think that statistics been out there

01:06:41that in the series against Tampa, they only let up seven five on five goals and they've already

01:06:48let up five and these two games, but your power play has been done nothing. And that's how you're

01:06:53going to extend a lead. So you've got to, and if you're not, if you're not scoring the, you can at

01:06:59least create momentum by doing what Florida has done, which is a lot of great A's on those power

01:07:05plays. And I don't know what the answer is. I, I, at least tonight they went to

01:07:13what would be four of their five best players. It did insert low right on there, but

01:07:18power play needs to get going. I think lower, I went in only on that top unit. Cause McAvoy was,

01:07:24that was still when he was in the dressing room, I think for the blood, the broadcast pointed that

01:07:28out. So I don't like, I wanted that too. I want to see low rye with it. Cause I think he's the

01:07:34perfect guy for it. But you know, McAvoy is your top defense when he makes the most money,

01:07:41you know, you rely on it. Do you know, either you think they'll let low ride, run the top power

01:07:47play. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, again, I, to me, like, I think you would only see that

01:07:54if he continues to pop offensively and, or they go down like three games to one and they're in

01:08:02game five and they're on the ropes fighting for their life and they try it. But I would,

01:08:09I would like to see low rye up there more. It's kind of like, and it's not, I know McAvoy is not

01:08:13at this point in his career at all. He's still very young. And I still think there is a little

01:08:17bit of an offensive ceiling there or offensive potential potentially down the, down the road.

01:08:21But like, I remember when, you know, Chara used to be their top power play guy and then Krug was

01:08:26there and Krug came along and they said, all right, Z, like, we don't want you playing all

01:08:30this, this extra minutes that you don't have to play. We have Krug. You can still, you're still

01:08:34going to be our number one guy and shut down and you're, you'll get, you know, chances in the ozone,

01:08:38but we're going to take some minutes off your plate. And I think like if low ride continues

01:08:43to emerge, that could be what they end up doing where it's like low ride takes those top PP reps

01:08:48instead. So there's two things I want to talk about. One is I think Robert says the issue with

01:08:54McEvoy in the power play is he never shoots. And now go back and watch him early in his career.

01:09:00And you and I were talking about this because you have the same issue with McEvoy in the power play.

01:09:04He doesn't shoot enough. He doesn't shoot enough. Watch him early in his career. He shot all the

01:09:10time and they kept taking him off. They kept taking him off the power play. That's why they

01:09:15had Grizzlik like, sorry for people that don't like Grizzlik. He used to run the first power play

01:09:22after Krug left and McEvoy and him were together. And that was because I think the guys around him

01:09:29got frustrated that he would shoot every opportunity that he got. And I think again,

01:09:35ingrained into him, all right, I gotta, and rightfully so, let me find Pashnak for that

01:09:39one time or let me find Marshawn, let those guys distribute. And my goal will be my,

01:09:47I'm the third option as far as being a shooter. So that's number one. He used to be a shooter.

01:09:55He doesn't shoot anymore. Number two, low rise confident, extremely confident that worries me

01:10:03in a power play setting in the playoffs. And I'm not going to say he won't be that guy. He could

01:10:11be like, he's got the talent to do it. I don't know if I want to insert him there right now.

01:10:17Might wait it, might wait it out a little bit. Might let him ease into that during the regular

01:10:23season unless you're just throwing caution in the wind and let's, all right, let's see what he can

01:10:27do. I just think that's a gamble. I'm not, again, me on my chair, I'm not willing to take that risk

01:10:35right now. I don't think they are either. I don't think they are either. I don't.

01:10:41I just don't. So, but yeah, I mean, I think it's an interesting thing and it's an interesting case

01:10:47of, you know, while I could step in, but yeah, I think going into games, game three, your, your

01:10:54top four D stay the same. If Pete can play, I think he's your third pairing right shot guy.

01:10:59And then, you know, is it while there's spoon, is it for Bert? We kind of already debated that.

01:11:03So I don't want to dive back into it. Upfront. We talked about it briefly at the beginning.

01:11:09Would you make any changes up front? Yeah. I just think you look at that fourth line again.

01:11:16Are you talking about like adjusting the lines or are you talking about

01:11:20slotting people in and out? Like if you're talking about slotting people in and out

01:11:26you fourth line, like what's your, what is your expectation from them?

01:11:35Right. Like Patrick Brown played six and a half minutes, but had seven hits the other night. If

01:11:39you anticipate it being a physical game and you're worried about face-offs, which I don't know how

01:11:45good those were tonight, maybe he slots back in. He's fine. He's not going to do much for you

01:11:50offensively. I think the Bruins had the higher face-off percentage is 51.9% to 48. I would have

01:11:56to. I want to check. There you go. Hey, let's go. That's a win. That's true. Nothing serious.

01:12:01Two. Oh, that's what it is. I don't think I do think Maroon slots stays in. Cause I think your

01:12:10expectation is that that's going to be a physical game. And then you do, you look at,

01:12:17I mean, focused, wasn't very good tonight, but then again, no one, no one really was, but

01:12:22you probably slot him out. Yeah. Maroon beat your Boquis. They were out chance three to 10

01:12:29in their six minutes of five on five time on ice. So I, you know, it's an interesting thing of like,

01:12:39if you're like, I don't want to take Maroon out though. I go back to that veteran leadership

01:12:44type thing. What he can do, especially garden crowd, lay some hits, get the crowd. Like,

01:12:51I don't know. I, I don't know. I'm not ready to take him out. If you want to take Boquist out.

01:12:58Okay. Maybe, um, you know, and the other question is like, is what's Heinen's deal?

01:13:03Like what is the latest on Heinen? We'll get a better idea of that tomorrow.

01:13:07Like I liked him in the lineup when he was in, do you, do you put him back in and put him on

01:13:11that third line and move Brazzo down? And then your fourth line is, Oh, you wouldn't do that.

01:13:16I mean, I like the third line as is I like being Reims Dyke. So would you take Van Ream's deck out

01:13:21of that? If you're bringing Heinen back in? No, I'd probably take Boquist out and you can,

01:13:29I would, I don't know. I like, I like Brazzo right now. I like him getting minutes. I don't

01:13:35like him seeing fourth line minutes. I think he's been effective. I do think that. And now again,

01:13:42I'll say this, the team wasn't good. Van Ream's like, wasn't great, but by and large, since he's

01:13:47been inserted into the lineup, he's been pretty effective. I don't really want to see him come

01:13:51out either. I do agree with you. Heinen's an effective player that kills penalties.

01:13:58What's wrong with making your fourth line better?

01:14:00Yeah. I mean, do you put Heinen on the fourth line though?

01:14:04Yeah. I think he's, he's through the course of his career, he's played up and down your lineup

01:14:10because he can do a lot of, he can do a lot of things. And so I don't think he's someone

01:14:17that's going to have a difficult time adjusting to that fourth line. It's just who plays a right

01:14:22wing. I mean, obviously Beecher would slide into the middle and I don't know what you do with Heinen

01:14:29and Maroon. It's a little different dynamic on that. I'd still be a little different dynamic

01:14:34on that fourth line, but yeah, I just, I like Heinen. I liked Heinen on that third line in that

01:14:41last series until he got hurt. So I like, I was okay with that. The problem is though, let me,

01:14:47let me ask you a question. I interrupted you again, but I need to do it. You just said you

01:14:52currently like this third line, but then you like Heinen on the third line during the Toronto

01:14:58third line during the Toronto. So who do you want to keep on the third line, Evan?

01:15:01Well, that's what I'm trying to decide in my own head. I like this third line as is,

01:15:05but that's the problem. If Heinen comes in, who's moved, like, who would you move down?

01:15:09Cause you wouldn't move in ream sake down to the fourth line. That doesn't make sense. Brazil

01:15:12has been playing too good. You keep them up there. Frederick has been solid. You're probably right.

01:15:17You probably put Heinen on that fourth line and it's better than what you got. It's better than

01:15:21what you got. You're getting out of your fourth line right now. Cause you're not getting a hell

01:15:24of a lot. Well, I think the interesting thing is Zach has been bad. He's been bad.

01:15:34Well, he had the assistant, right? Didn't he? He did have an assist. I'll give him that, but

01:15:40not out of that by the pace and the pace isn't there. He's not creating offensive opportunities.

01:15:49It's whatever. I know he hasn't scored, but it's not the, not the, like I'd be interested.

01:15:56Yeah, it's not to be. Yeah, exactly. I'd just be interested to see what his shots look like

01:16:02through the playoffs. I just, I can't remember him with too many shots through throughout any series.

01:16:10Well, I mean, tonight, um, yeah, this is awful. He was hit. Well, his line,

01:16:17when Zaka, Gigi and Poshnok were on the ice at five on five, that line was out chance two to

01:16:22nine and Zaka had the second lowest, uh, Corsi for percentage. So again, that's chances for

01:16:31versus chances against, um, three to 13. So you need more from Zaka. Like, uh, you know,

01:16:39you need more, you just, you need more. I don't know if you took any draws tonight

01:16:43or at least it was 0% face-offs. I don't know how many draws he took, but like, I agree with you,

01:16:50like you need more from Zaka and like Jake to bros too. So zero shots in 15 minutes,

01:16:58astronaut had zero shots tonight. That's not good. Well, he had the fight. I'll give him that.

01:17:05And he's preparing for that all night. Zaka did not take a face off tonight.

01:17:10Yeah. They geeky down the middle. So again, I just, you need more from Zaka. So game three,

01:17:16that what the game three objectives are, uh, don't turn the puck over.

01:17:22Don't turn the puck over. Don't do that. You need, you need Zaka to activate and

01:17:30posture not for that matter, but you know, big time Zaka and, uh, you know, physicality wise

01:17:40match them, but don't go out of your way to be them like play your own game.

01:17:44I know it sounds so dumb and cliche, but it's true. Like

01:17:47runes laid 70 hits tonight. They lost six to one. So like, I, I don't have a, you know,

01:17:55huge desire for that. Um, and start swimming, start swimming. We talked about this already,

01:18:01so we're not going to dive all back into it, but I, I thought you wanted more turnover.

01:18:08I thought you wanted turnovers. I do want to create turnovers, Brian.

01:18:11I don't know. Well, you do. I mean, that's the thing, right? Like, yeah. And I think

01:18:19Heinen helps that. I didn't help that in this, in the Toronto series. And I think

01:18:23that's what he's alluding to. Um, and I know Boquis can too, but I don't know.

01:18:29I would like, I don't know if you can take Maroon out in a series like this.

01:18:34Cause I agree. I mean, you know, like I, I, he's slower, but I, I, you know,

01:18:42Brian says, Brian says so less hits. I'm assuming. Yeah. I mean, I, I don't know.

01:18:49I don't know what he means with Heinen. Um, so let's wrap it up with this.

01:18:55Okay, great. I liked, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not nervous about where the Bruins are at.

01:19:00So we're out of the Bruins come out of, out of Florida. They get a win. They have a bad

01:19:05loss tonight, but they show some life at the end with some goon in it up and energy. And

01:19:12like, I'm not worried about this series. It's a close, this is going to be a very close series.

01:19:16This is going to be a very close years. I have this series going seven games.

01:19:20So what about you? Where are you at? Yeah. I think anytime you get out

01:19:25of starting on the road and you're one, one, that's great. Right. And I had anticipated that

01:19:34this going five with Florida and, and being swept down in down there. And so really excited after

01:19:42game one. I think the thing that scared me tonight was how good you were in the first period. And

01:19:49then you just had no answer. Once Florida made some sort of adjustments, they were all over you

01:19:56and they ended up winning six, one and Sam Bennett hasn't played a minute and Sam, Sam,

01:20:02and Sam Bennett was a menace last year. And I got to like, obviously he's hurt and there's some sort

01:20:10of hand issue. If you're sitting out, I got to imagine it's more than a bruise, right? It's got

01:20:16to be some sort of something's broken. So I don't think he's going to be at a hundred percent if he,

01:20:21if he even enters back into the lineup, but they, you got dominated tonight. I would have been

01:20:29really excited about a three, two, four, two loss. I think, I think came out of this game

01:20:39thinking Florida is the better team. I think Boston has a chance. I think I do. I think I,

01:20:46I give Boston more of a chance than I, than I did prior to this prior to the series.

01:20:53They just, they've got to come away with a game three win.

01:20:57Yes. Or you at least got to come out of Boston two, two, you can't be down three,

01:21:03one and go back to Florida. No, no, no, no. You can't. People are asking me to change my

01:21:08prediction. I will not, but I will say, I will say if I were to put percentages on whether or

01:21:16not Florida wins, I'd say it's 60% Florida, 40% Boston, which is higher than it was the beginning

01:21:23of the series. I just Florida dominated you tonight. That's the biggest thing. And whether

01:21:27or not that's because the Bruins are gassed and it's been a long five days, like that could eat,

01:21:33that's probably a big part of it. But I also just, I can't, there's the better team. I don't

01:21:40think the Bruins are out of it though. And I think the Bruins could just easily win this series,

01:21:43right? You need to sway them into play. Well limit turnovers, everything we talked about tonight.

01:21:48And it's, that's not, that stuff isn't impossible. Boston goes up three, one. Do you change your

01:21:53prediction or is it completely locked in? No, I, if they go through and I can't change my prediction

01:21:58because if I do, then it's going to start to go the other way. So we're locked in. I'm sorry,

01:22:02guys, or we're locked in. I feel like we hit on everything tonight. I don't think there's

01:22:07anything that we, Oh, we didn't miss anything. We didn't miss a thing. So that's that Bruins

01:22:15lose six, one goon in it up at the end. I haven't seen a game like that in a long time.

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01:22:43Have a great rest of your night guys. Thank you.

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