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00:00 Assalamu alaikum, welcome to the program.
00:03 Coincidentally, today's program is about the different cases that are going on in the courts.
00:11 Because a lot is happening, so it cannot be ignored.
00:15 And all the cases are directly or indirectly related to politics.
00:21 But the first story, viewers, Jane Marriott is the UK High Commissioner in Pakistan.
00:27 It happened like this, that on 27th April, there was a conference in Lahore, you may remember,
00:38 Asma Jahangir Conference.
00:40 During that conference, obviously, different delegates were called, different guests from Pakistan,
00:46 experts were called, journalists were called there, and the different situations and incidents in Pakistan,
00:52 the issues of human rights that are being faced, the way democracy is being run in Pakistan,
01:00 people's opinion was known about that.
01:02 The recent elections in Pakistan were also discussed about that.
01:06 So Jane Marriott addressed there, and whatever she said during her address, listen.
01:12 The right to vote is of course the most fundamental tenet of democracy,
01:17 as the will of the people is the basis for the authority of the government.
01:22 And here in Pakistan, it was heartening to see people turn out in number to vote in February.
01:29 As UK Foreign Secretary Lord David Cameron said in his statement,
01:33 this was despite serious concerns about the fairness and lack of inclusivity of the elections.
01:39 Not all parties were formally permitted to contest the elections,
01:43 and legal processes were used to prevent some political leaders from participation,
01:48 and to prevent the use of recognisable party symbols.
01:52 Restrictions were imposed, as we know, on internet access on polling day,
01:56 and social media continues to be disrupted.
01:59 There were significant delays in the reporting of results,
02:02 and claims of irregularities in the counting process.
02:06 Challenges like this can undermine democracy.
02:09 During her address, the High Commissioner said that the elections in Pakistan on 8th February,
02:18 her former Foreign Secretary, Mr David Cameron,
02:24 who was also her Prime Minister, read out her statement,
02:27 that the elections in Pakistan were unfair,
02:32 and that the Supreme Court decision, which was a clear sign of the justice system in Pakistan,
02:40 was taken back, and that it was also referenced.
02:43 And it was said that legal processes were used to undermine the fairness of the electoral process.
02:50 Now, the Supreme Court decision was directly contradicted by her statement.
02:58 In response, the Supreme Court registrar, Mr Aslam, wrote a letter.
03:06 The date of the letter is 3rd May,
03:09 but we saw that the media got the letter yesterday.
03:14 The letter was obviously sent to the media by the Supreme Court.
03:19 And it is written very clearly at the end of the letter,
03:21 that it is on the instructions of the Chief Justice of Pakistan, Honourable Chief Justice Qazi Faiz Issa Sahib.
03:29 And interestingly, you can see that the letter was addressed to Lord Robert John Reid,
03:35 who is the President of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom,
03:39 and Lady Banners, who is the Chief Justice of England and Wales.
03:46 Now, what is written in the letter? Let's put the headlines of all the newspapers today in front of you.
03:51 Because the coverage of this letter was a big development.
03:55 First of all, you see, it was covered in the Jang newspaper in such a way that,
04:01 "Bala Nishan, Britannia Motres, Supreme Court Barham."
04:05 And after that, "Jain Marriott's objection to the removal of the Justice Movement from the Supreme Court is unquestionable."
04:13 This was written in the letter.
04:16 And above, "Let's move away from the generation of colonists, the Supreme Court has admitted its mistakes in the past,
04:23 the British should also admit their mistakes."
04:27 You saw such news in the Duniya newspaper.
04:30 You saw such news in the Express.
04:36 Viewers, in this letter, which was written by the Supreme Court,
04:40 two references were also given that in 1953, the government of Iran was overthrown.
04:46 The reference to the UK's role in that was also given.
04:51 Similarly, it went back and forth.
04:54 There is another reference, when you know, the Jewish state of Israel was formed.
04:58 There is a reference to the Balfour Agreement.
05:01 And it was said that, "My Lord, we have also made mistakes in Pakistan."
05:06 The Chief Justice has written very clearly, "And we are accepting our mistakes in the country
05:11 to strengthen the democratic process, with regard to an open society.
05:16 And the British should also accept their mistakes."
05:21 After that, you can see in the Dawn newspaper.
05:24 This was also said in the Express Tribune.
05:27 And in this, the decision, you can see that the Chief Justice defended his decision.
05:36 Now, this is the whole matter.
05:39 I will start with you, Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam.
05:41 Mr. Chaudhary, you know that this has become a big news.
05:45 And I have put all the charts of the newspapers in front of you.
05:48 The news has become and there are also discussions on it.
05:51 So, I want to know your opinion.
05:53 It was an old incident of Jane Marriott.
05:57 But the letter was written on 27th April, the conference.
06:00 And on 3rd May, the letter was written.
06:02 Now, this letter has come in front.
06:04 After seeing all this, what will you say?
06:07 What is your observation or what is your reaction to this?
06:10 Well, you will not be disappointed as a Pakistani.
06:15 The election that you said, that your brother has been saying from the first day.
06:23 He said how the counting happened.
06:26 And that was delayed.
06:28 And the party was removed.
06:31 Politicians were not allowed to participate.
06:33 That is, in a few sentences, the Ambassador has repeated all the allegations on the election.
06:42 The answer that the Chief Justice has sent is in its place.
06:46 And I think some of them have been affected by your colleagues.
06:50 Because I ask the Khabar Lahariya Government that there is a lot of heat in Lahore.
06:54 Oh no, it is much more than this in Africa.
06:58 Mr. Chaudhary, what do you know?
07:00 You are our elder, but you don't know anything.
07:04 What we have is news.
07:06 It is a very sad thing that the UK, the United Kingdom, which is considered the home of democracy.
07:14 The Ambassador there has put such terrible allegations on your election.
07:20 That you are not ashamed of it.
07:23 Okay, Hassan Ayub, you have also lived in Britain.
07:27 It is not only the British High Commissioner, when the election was held, there was a big opinion on it from other parties, even from the US and the European Union.
07:40 Their opinion was obviously given in their observation.
07:42 The question that people are asking now is what was the need for this letter written by Mr. Arisrar?
07:49 And obviously he said that I have written it on the instructions of the Supreme Court Chief Justice.
07:54 So both opinions have come in front of you.
07:58 The opinion was already there, was it necessary to write this letter or was it necessary to answer it?
08:04 I think it was necessary to answer.
08:06 Look, our nation should now come out of slavery.
08:11 Pakistan, thank God, is a free country.
08:13 And we are not anyone's slaves anymore.
08:15 We are also a free state by the grace of God.
08:19 And we have our own identity.
08:22 In the letter written by the Supreme Court Chief Justice, he said that he defended his decision.
08:27 You tell me, the constitution of Pakistan or the law of Pakistan, i.e. the Election Act,
08:34 if someone sees both of them and gives me a legal argument,
08:39 how the PTA should have got this sign of the baton, which the court did not give,
08:44 then I will apologize to everyone in this show right now.
08:48 But there is not a single legal point on which even the PTA chief justice himself said at the hearing that
08:56 yes, we are not eligible, but because we should have been given a political basis, a legal basis.
09:04 So this is how the courts work according to the law and the constitution.
09:09 The decision to not give a sign was given according to the law and the constitution.
09:14 Neither is it the law nor the constitution.
09:17 Mr. Nagri, the article 17.2, which is discussed in relation to the subclass,
09:22 which was the fundamental argument of the lawyer of the Pakistan Law,
09:26 that making a political party is a fundamental right of ours, which is in the Basic Human Rights Act of Pakistan.
09:34 It is our party and we should get this sign.
09:38 Either the party is registered or the party is terminated.
09:40 But of course, the Supreme Court has already passed a decision on this.
09:43 You can express your opinion on this decision in a legal and constitutional way.
09:48 The majority opinion that you saw in the newspapers, the experts, the constitutional experts,
09:53 they say that taking this sign from the political party was a little overdoing, it should not have been taken.
10:01 And we saw a similar echo, the statement given by Jain Marriott Sahiba.
10:06 After the letter of Zahir-e-Kal came out, this big news has been made.
10:10 In your opinion, when there are elections all over the world,
10:16 the observers of foreign experts or foreign countries go and give their opinions on it.
10:21 If you put your opinion in front of these two issues.
10:25 I want to tell a story of 1857.
10:30 If you have permission, please tell.
10:33 No sir, you are 17 years old.
10:40 You can tell that story.
10:43 Whatever our statement is, Mr. Chaudhary is our elder and he is the leader of our team.
10:48 He will always be.
10:49 Now let's talk about the statement of Jain Marriott.
10:52 This is a great thing.
10:54 Jain Marriott has helped the government of Pakistan in a way.
10:59 How?
11:00 There was a person who said that Donald Loo, he was also related to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
11:04 Jain Marriott is also related to the Foreign Office.
11:07 Yes.
11:08 Britain too.
11:09 There was a person, Donald Loo, when he had a conversation with the Pakistani ambassador,
11:14 a party had made him their biggest statement that who are they who talk about the internal affairs of Pakistan or who interfere.
11:23 So now I ask the same question to the same party.
11:26 Will you ask Jain Marriott who are they who talk about the internal affairs of Pakistan or who question?
11:33 The day you will ask this question to Jain Marriott, your statement of Donald Loo will also be proven right.
11:39 But if you can't ask this question, then you talked about Donald Loo,
11:43 you were just doing it to set an optic.
11:46 You had no meaning from inside.
11:48 Yes.
11:49 Let's go, your point came forward.
11:51 Viewers, it is obvious that the democracy is in the whole world.
11:54 No, no, Khawar Guman sir, you answer me first.
11:56 No, no, I am Choy Sahab, your question.
11:58 No, no, my first question is with you.
12:00 No, I wanted to clarify that Choy Sahab is still young, don't call him old.
12:05 I don't know what world you are living in, Mr. Nagvi.
12:07 Yes, Choy Sahab.
12:08 I am really sorry.
12:09 You must take your words back.
12:10 Yes, Choy Sahab.
12:12 Tell me, in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, where is it written that whatever election is to be held in Pakistan, it should be a fair one.
12:23 Unfortunately, Choy Sahab, all the elections in Pakistan have been objected to.
12:28 The subject is not the election, the subject is what Jain Marriott said.
12:31 It has been happening.
12:32 You have spoken, respected.
12:35 No, no, yes, Mr. Nagvi.
12:37 The problem is that Choy Sahab, your question, Pakistan's unfortunate is that all the elections have been held, obviously there have been objections.
12:48 Now, obviously, Mr. Nagvi has tried to mix it with another incident.
12:53 On that too, there is a demand in Pakistan that a free and fair investigation commission, inquiry commission should be formed.
12:59 A commission is being asked for this matter too.
13:01 But this is obviously present in a circle.
13:04 Viewers, let's move on to the next story.
13:06 The next story is also going on in Pakistan.
13:09 The whole matter is about elections.
13:12 Obviously, the whole matter is going on on Farm 48, Farm 47, 46.
13:18 We will talk about that.
13:20 Today, in Islamabad High Court, this issue was presented.
13:24 In Islamabad High Court, Election Tribunal, Justice Tariq Jahangiri is heading this election tribunal.
13:33 Today, in N48 and 46, the Mubayna, allegedly, the appeals against Dandi have been heard.
13:42 The Election Commission has submitted the certified copies of N48, Farm 47, 46, 45 to the court.
13:50 The winner, the hopeful Raja Khurram Nawaz has not submitted the certified farm yet.
13:57 Election Tribunal, Judge Justice Tariq Mehmood Jahangiri said.
14:01 The winner of N48, Raja Khurram Nawaz, is being presented in the court.
14:06 We have not received the certified farms yet.
14:08 This was said by Raja Khurram's lawyer.
14:11 The judge said, how is this possible?
14:14 The winner of the Election Commission, he gives all the things as charity.
14:18 All the farms, including Farm 45, should be submitted as certified.
14:24 The judge said, along with that, all the people will submit their votes.
14:29 Every hopeful will get the last chance.
14:32 Even then, what will not come, will be a one-sided action.
14:35 The judge warned this.
14:37 The winner, the hopeful Raja Khurram Nawaz, was fined Rs. 15,000.
14:42 The returning officer, N48, was also fined Rs. 15,000.
14:45 Because he was not coming.
14:46 The winner, Anjum Akhil, was asked who is he?
14:51 His senior lawyer is present in the Supreme Court.
14:54 His assistant lawyer informed the court.
14:57 See, this is not a way.
15:00 This is an important matter.
15:02 We have ordered twice, the remarks of the Election Tribunal judge.
15:05 The party that takes action, will be prosecuted.
15:08 The beneficiary can also be fined.
15:10 The winner, the hopeful, if the beneficiary does not submit with the consent of the opposition,
15:14 then the beneficiary will be fined.
15:16 He said this.
15:17 The judge of the Election Tribunal, I give the last chance.
15:20 If the answer is not submitted, then we will make the final order.
15:24 In N48, the appeal against Moina Dawoodi will end on June 6.
15:28 Khusain Chaudhary, our representative, was present there.
15:31 Now, the winner did not get the grant form 45.
15:38 This is what the bill is.
15:41 So how did he win?
15:43 Mr. Khawar, this was the third hearing today.
15:46 And it has been almost a month since this case.
15:49 And these three cases are Alka 46, 47 and 48.
15:52 In the case of N47, the winner, Dr. Tarik Fazal Chaudhary,
15:58 has not yet been answered, nor has his form 45 been submitted, nor has his record been submitted.
16:03 He has also been given the last chance by the court, the Election Tribunal.
16:07 He has been given the chance to submit on June 5.
16:10 Otherwise, he said that this is the last chance, we will order.
16:13 Because these three hearings have been held.
16:15 Today, it was the case of Alka 46 and Alka 48.
16:19 Ali Bukhari, the PTI, has already filed an appeal.
16:23 Today, the lawyers of the winner, Raja Khurram,
16:27 said that they have brought the record, but we do not have enough grants.
16:32 Justice Tarik Jhangiri, the judge of the Election Tribunal,
16:36 expressed his surprise and said that you should have it.
16:39 He said that we have the form 45, but we did not get it properly.
16:45 And the grants that we got,
16:47 you should have all three things, form 45, 6 and 7.
16:52 After that, he has been fined Rs 15,000.
16:55 Also, the Tribunal said that where is the RO?
16:58 RO was also missing.
16:59 It was missing again today.
17:00 RO was signed on form 45.
17:03 There was also a report that some forms,
17:06 which are going to come in the third place,
17:08 were tallied among them.
17:09 The thing is that the RO was not there,
17:11 so they were also fined and told that
17:13 they are giving the last chance, you should present it next time,
17:16 otherwise we will order it.
17:18 In that, it happened that in form 48,
17:22 the Election Commission had also collected their forms,
17:25 and the losers were also included.
17:27 Only the winners, Raja Khurram, were not included.
17:30 Then the judge said that let's tally it.
17:33 There was a very interesting scene in that.
17:35 The three losers, TLP, PTI and Mustafa Nawaz Koker,
17:40 their forms were tallied,
17:43 whereas the Election Commission's form was reversed.
17:47 In brief, I will tell you that Ali Bukhari
17:50 was picked up from a polling station
17:52 and was asked to tell how many votes Ali Bukhari had.
17:56 According to form 45, the three losers had 313 votes for Ali Bukhari
18:02 and 140 votes for the winner, Raja Khurram.
18:05 They were matched.
18:07 Then the judge took out the form 45 of the Election Commission,
18:10 of the same polling station.
18:12 There, Raja Khurram had 313 votes,
18:16 and Ali Bukhari had 140 votes.
18:19 Ali Bukhari said that we have thumbprints and signatures,
18:23 and it was reversed.
18:25 Hassan, the winner is a hopeful person,
18:28 he has the documentary evidence.
18:30 Instead of these people running around...
18:33 What can Hassan do?
18:35 Hassan does it.
18:37 Why don't you explain to them?
18:40 They should have accepted the form 45,
18:43 that we won the election.
18:45 They should have accepted it.
18:47 Why don't they go?
18:49 They should have accepted the form 45,
18:51 that we won the election.
18:53 They should have accepted it.
18:55 They should have accepted it.
18:57 They should have accepted it.
18:59 Look, there is a forensic audit.
19:01 I've been saying from day one,
19:03 that whoever was elected because of the audit,
19:06 and who was not elected,
19:08 and who was voted by the actual people,
19:10 should be the head of the National Assembly.
19:12 But remember one thing,
19:14 Raja Khurram Nawaz is an old PTA.
19:16 He started politics with Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
19:19 and he was the head of the National Assembly from Istanbul.
19:22 So, you know that he is rigging the election.
19:26 He was made the chairman of the Kaima Committee,
19:29 and he was also the chairman of the Bani Tariq-e-Insaf.
19:32 I've heard from my own ears,
19:34 that Raja Khurram Nawaz is a very current man.
19:37 These were the words of Bani Tariq-e-Insaf.
19:40 Anyway, it is possible that the losers,
19:43 will win the elections.
19:45 I won the elections, so I threw the food away.
19:48 The losers will take care of it.
19:50 The judges are asking for documents from the High Court,
19:53 not from me and you.
19:55 Sir, he is a judge.
19:57 He can be a retired judge.
19:59 He is a judge, but he is acting as an election tribunal.
20:02 But what I am saying is that,
20:04 the losers are always against the winners.
20:10 They have won by defeating them.
20:12 Now, they might have made their own tally.
20:15 Can I add something?
20:16 Justice Tariq Jahangiri has said twice today,
20:19 that this is not a civil court.
20:21 He has also told the PTI,
20:23 who were the other candidates,
20:25 that this is not a civil court,
20:27 and not a civil case.
20:29 He has ordered three times,
20:31 and said that he has no more time.
20:33 He has to decide this case.
20:35 He has not used the High Court's authority.
20:38 It is a very simple matter.
20:40 I don't know if you have a friend,
20:43 or if you have a share in this.
20:46 Form 45 is a very basic document,
20:48 which is given to the winners and losers.
20:51 They are being called again and again,
20:53 and they are not ready.
20:55 The judge is charging Rs. 15,000.
20:57 There are 300 polling stations,
20:59 or 240, or 250, or however many there are.
21:01 You have to be as precise as possible.
21:03 You can't say, "I got this,
21:05 and that's why I got this."
21:07 You are not being presented there.
21:09 So, you want to ask me,
21:13 what should they do?
21:15 Should they give Form 45?
21:17 My question is,
21:19 you have been arguing from the beginning,
21:21 that the Election Tribunal has to decide this.
21:23 The Election Tribunal is being called again and again,
21:25 and they are charging.
21:27 Their lawyers are not being presented,
21:29 their people are not being presented,
21:31 the polling officer is not being presented.
21:33 So, I am stressing this.
21:35 The Court should decide,
21:37 they should go, they should definitely go.
21:39 But this program is being held in such a pleasant environment.
21:41 I want to say something about this.
21:43 We are people of 1947,
21:45 and we are standing on 1947,
21:47 and we will stand on 1947.
21:49 We will make all the people's wishes come true,
21:51 who want to undo 1947.
21:53 Whether it is the people of Imran Khan's
21:55 previous cabinet,
21:57 who are sitting on YouTube and saying
21:59 that Pakistan was made wrong.
22:01 Or Narendra Modi, who is running his election campaign in India,
22:03 and says that I will end the Pakistan
22:05 that was made in 1947.
22:07 So, we are people of 1947.
22:09 Nagvi Sahib,
22:11 keep one thing in mind.
22:13 Any Pakistani citizen of Pakistan,
22:15 often it is said that
22:17 who is a citizen of Pakistan,
22:19 who is a citizen of Pakistan.
22:21 I am in a pleasant mood.
22:23 I am not upset.
22:25 I mean to say that
22:27 we are all citizens of Pakistan.
22:29 And whatever incidents have happened in the past,
22:31 no Pakistani,
22:33 no patriot,
22:35 God forbid, can think of it.
22:37 Mr. Ghulam Singh,
22:39 think about the story again.
22:41 You are the son of a Pakistani soldier.
22:43 You are a son of a Pakistani soldier.
22:45 Alhamdulillah.
22:47 Mr. Ghulam Singh, you are the son of a Pakistani soldier.
22:49 No one can know better than you.
22:51 And we are proud of you.
22:53 We are proud of your father.
22:55 May God raise his status.
22:57 Mr. Ghulam Singh,
22:59 again this matter of farm 47,
23:01 farm 45.
23:03 I heard that in Lahore,
23:05 a farm 45 was asked for.
23:07 It was set on fire and burnt.
23:09 What is the story of the farm?
23:11 And please comment on this too.
23:13 Because you know
23:15 what kind of news you were listening to
23:17 on the night between 8 and 9.
23:19 And what information was coming.
23:21 And what happened on 9.
23:23 And what is happening till now.
23:25 Now you say that Mr. Sufien,
23:27 he is in the UN Charter.
23:29 He has said that wherever there is an election,
23:31 he should have free, fair and impartial.
23:33 This is not a matter of interference
23:35 for every country.
23:37 Secondly,
23:39 there is a lot of
23:41 information about the farm.
23:43 The court has itself
23:45 issued a form
23:47 and has put the whole thing
23:49 in front of you.
23:51 So you will have to believe
23:53 that the two-way settlement is not acceptable.
23:55 I am hearing these people
23:57 every day that
23:59 they will have to account
24:01 for their crimes.
24:03 And this is a very big crime
24:05 that they have done to the nation.
24:07 Sir, tell us
24:09 how long will this
24:11 Farm 47 case
24:13 end?
24:15 The date of 46 and 47
24:17 is 5 and 6 June
24:19 and the date of 48
24:21 is 6 June.
24:23 The date of NA 48 is 6 June.
24:25 The date of NA 47 is 5 June.
24:27 And the date of NA 46 is 11 June.
24:29 You are seeing the decision before the election.
24:31 The date of 46 is 11 June.
24:33 And on 11 June, the judge said that
24:35 he will finalize the case.
24:37 This is not to be presented.
24:39 Viewers, let's go to the break.
24:41 Today, Supreme Court
24:43 presented the Bani PTI case.
24:45 What was the case?
24:47 When was the case deferred?
24:49 When will the next hearing take place?
24:51 And what was the case there today?
24:53 We will talk about all of that after the break.
24:55 Welcome back, viewers.
24:57 The case is being presented
24:59 on the changes in the new law.
25:01 When the case started,
25:03 the matter came to the fore.
25:05 The decision was made
25:07 whether the case will be streamed or not.
25:09 The decision was made that it will not be
25:11 live-streamed for the majority of 4-1.
25:13 The case was presented.
25:15 The arguments were given
25:17 from both sides.
25:19 But the main point
25:21 on which a lot of debate started
25:23 was that you may remember
25:25 two days ago,
25:27 when the case was presented
25:29 in the Lahore Assembly.
25:31 The meeting of the General Council
25:33 was held in the newspapers.
25:35 Yesterday, the news was in the newspapers.
25:37 Imran Qurli, Fadalti, Kali, Bede,
25:39 Baazid, this news is in the Jankhabar.
25:41 Similarly, you can see
25:43 the news is in the world newspapers.
25:45 If there is no change,
25:47 there will be no judge,
25:49 nor a politician, Shabaz Sharif.
25:51 We also reported on this yesterday.
25:53 When the case started,
25:55 Justice Atar Manila
25:57 asked the question,
25:59 "Attorney General,
26:01 tell the Prime Minister
26:03 that there are no Kali Bede
26:05 in the court."
26:07 Justice Atar Manila said...
26:09 - This was said by Jamal Mando Khel.
26:11 - No, no, let me hear it from the beginning.
26:13 "If the Prime Minister thinks
26:15 that there are Kali Bede in the court,
26:17 then file a reference against them."
26:19 This was said by Justice Atar Manila.
26:21 After that,
26:23 Justice Jamal Mando Khel said,
26:25 "I watch the media,
26:27 social media, and read the newspapers."
26:29 The Prime Minister said, "Kali Bede."
26:31 Justice Jamal Mando Khel
26:33 said this to the Attorney General.
26:35 These words were not used
26:37 for the present judges.
26:39 The Attorney General,
26:41 Mansoor Abaan, explained this.
26:43 But, the speech
26:45 that was given,
26:47 what did Shabaz Sharif say?
26:49 - I say to the court,
26:51 to the Supreme Court,
26:53 that by all means,
26:55 you are a Pakistani,
26:57 a judge, a judge.
26:59 If in Pakistan,
27:01 there is no progress
27:03 and happiness
27:05 again,
27:07 then there will be no judge,
27:09 no politician,
27:11 no one else.
27:13 Do you want this?
27:15 I am sure that these judges,
27:17 most of them,
27:19 are Pakistani.
27:21 Pakistani people can think.
27:23 For the progress
27:25 and happiness,
27:27 they are completely in agreement.
27:29 - Most of them,
27:31 most of them,
27:33 the present judges,
27:35 they referred to this twice.
27:37 After that, they clarified
27:39 that Bani PTI,
27:41 to give bail,
27:43 or to give them relief
27:45 in cases, what is being said.
27:47 - I am sure
27:49 that these judges,
27:51 most of them,
27:53 are Pakistani.
27:55 Pakistani people can think.
27:57 For the progress and happiness
27:59 of Pakistan, they are completely in agreement.
28:01 But a few black sheep,
28:03 who are waiting for Imran Niazi,
28:07 that all of his
28:09 190 million pounds,
28:11 Nawaz Sharif,
28:13 Shabaz Sharif did not steal it.
28:15 Imran Niazi stole it.
28:17 Instead of putting it in the treasury,
28:19 he put money in another treasury.
28:21 He was afraid of the Kaaba's clock.
28:23 That clock worth millions of rupees,
28:25 that Imran Niazi stole it.
28:27 He put it in the market.
28:29 Muslim League did not put it in the market.
28:31 Similarly,
28:33 the land that was taken from others,
28:35 the people of Muslim League did not take it.
28:37 Imran Niazi gave it.
28:39 Today,
28:41 in the service of these judges,
28:43 I want to say this very respectfully,
28:45 that in the time of Nawaz Sharif,
28:47 there were no bails.
28:49 Today,
28:51 today,
28:53 tonight,
28:55 there are suggestions,
28:57 that how to keep him on bail,
28:59 and to end all his crimes.
29:01 Today,
29:03 tonight,
29:05 the present judges,
29:07 these judges,
29:09 most of them are right,
29:11 a few black sheep,
29:13 so this is a statement about the present judges.
29:15 Yesterday, in a television program,
29:17 a young man, Mr. Nagri,
29:19 he was asked,
29:21 I think he is a lawyer,
29:23 in the Law Ministry,
29:25 he said that we can bring a reference
29:27 regarding the judges.
29:29 You know that some judges are two numbers.
29:31 Will you move a reference against them or not?
29:33 We should, and we will.
29:35 Mr. Nagri, if we should and we will,
29:39 if any judge is doing wrong,
29:41 there are good people everywhere,
29:43 every institution has a process,
29:45 a method,
29:47 do you think that the Attorney General
29:49 would have said that yes,
29:51 he is saying that no,
29:53 we should refer to the old judges.
29:55 How do you see this fight?
29:57 Look,
29:59 who is the most informed person
30:01 in the state?
30:03 Obviously, the head of the state,
30:05 because he is running the state.
30:07 Now, Mr. Shahbaz Sharif is the head of the state,
30:09 the Prime Minister of Pakistan,
30:11 and he,
30:13 as the head of the state,
30:15 he knows a lot.
30:17 Maybe he cannot talk about this
30:19 in front of the public.
30:21 And maybe he has given this statement
30:23 on the basis of what he knows.
30:25 The only thing left is that
30:27 you yourself showed two video clips
30:29 in which you said that he is talking about these judges.
30:31 And the Attorney General said that
30:33 he is not talking about these judges,
30:35 so the Supreme Court will decide
30:37 that Mr. Shahbaz Sharif has talked about these judges.
30:39 The matter is over,
30:41 we have done the whole program on this.
30:43 But today,
30:45 the case, the matter is over.
30:47 Okay,
30:49 so one thing is this.
30:51 Yes, yes, Mr. Nagpi,
30:53 please, hurry up.
30:55 One thing is this,
30:57 the other important thing
30:59 which we have not talked about yet,
31:01 today there was a conference of the Court of Command
31:03 and a statement has come.
31:05 We have to talk about that.
31:07 We have a story on that.
31:09 The Pakistan's eye is an executive,
31:11 then there is the legislature,
31:13 and then there is the court.
31:15 So they have to separate all their matters.
31:17 You are saying that the matter is over.
31:19 Yes, it is over.
31:21 This matter is nothing.
31:23 The PTI wishes that the Prime Minister
31:25 should be called in the contempt.
31:27 Why?
31:29 You have heard Mr. Ali Zafar's statement,
31:31 you have not heard it.
31:33 He is saying that this is a false court.
31:35 This is the PTI's opinion.
31:37 But, but,
31:39 the first thing is that
31:41 the matter is not a false court,
31:43 it is a matter between the Contemporary and the Court.
31:45 The Court has not taken up the matter.
31:47 Now, what Rauf Hassan said,
31:49 I was very angry at him
31:51 that he used
31:53 very bad language
31:55 on the Chief Justice of the Istanbul High Court.
31:57 But even on that, the Chief Justice of the High Court
31:59 is not noticing the contempt.
32:01 It is a matter between the Contemporary and the Court.