A prophecy from Mt. Everest || Acharya Prashant (2022)

Acharya Prashant

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00:00 I wanted to just share something from my mountaineering, climbing experiences that I have had in the

00:09 last few years.

00:10 I still remember the very first time when I was climbing Everest and we go through this

00:16 section which is called the Khumbu Icefall.

00:18 I'm just going to take some 30 seconds to describe what the section looks like.

00:24 Think of it as like a frozen river of snow and ice.

00:27 Let's say if I take a suburb from Mumbai.

00:31 A suburb is filled with a lot of buildings and a lot of cars and a lot of roads.

00:36 Imagine that these buildings and cars and roads are all made of snow and ice.

00:40 Now you take this entire suburb and you tilt it at an angle of about 35 degrees and make

00:45 it such that it moves about 2 to 3 feet a day with a thing where these buildings can

00:52 crash and fall on you anytime during the day.

00:55 That is how the entire structure is.

00:58 And I still remember you have to, it takes about 12 hours to cross the section.

01:03 So you literally don't know whether you are going to survive the whole trip.

01:08 Like whether you are going to take the next step and something is just going to come down

01:11 and crash on you and kind of just completely obliterate you.

01:16 And walking the very first time through Khumbu Icefall, the very first few moments were very

01:22 nervous, very anxiety driven like what if something happens, I will die.

01:29 Constant thoughts racing through my mind and panic constantly there.

01:36 Suddenly it took a few steps and I don't know there was this massive epiphany that happened

01:42 where I am like let's just surrender to the mountain itself.

01:49 Let's just embrace the mountain.

01:50 Let's just surrender.

01:51 And just to be honest here, when I say surrender I don't mean that I will start climbing with

01:56 my mind aside.

01:57 I am not saying that.

01:59 That would mean recklessness and getting myself killed.

02:01 But it's also like accepting that the mountain is always going to have the last word here.

02:08 And it's so gigantic and I am like an ant in there.

02:13 And that my mountain size ego should be kept aside.

02:18 And let's just surrender, let's just accept and let's just enjoy the experience.

02:22 Be situationally very aware what's going on.

02:25 Keep an eye out what's going on.

02:27 Use my climbing skills just in case something happens and I need to save myself or need

02:31 to kind of take some action.

02:34 But I still remember that moment being such a game changer in my life where for the first

02:42 time I just accepted, for the first time I just surrendered myself fully to the mountain.

02:48 I just completely changed my mindset about how everything I do even in my personal life

02:55 here sitting in Mumbai.

02:57 And while I don't believe, I am not a believer or anything but that was my first brush with

03:05 spirituality or whatever you want to name it.

03:09 I am not going to name anything.

03:11 But just connection with the mountain or connection with where we live in.

03:17 And it's kind of helped me come back home and look at the whole planet in a very different

03:24 perspective and sure climate crisis is a very big thing and again I am bringing that point

03:29 but it's allowed me to kind of be in the mindset we need to conserve this planet.

03:35 We need to conserve all this immense beauty and all this amazing stuff, all these amazing

03:41 experiences that we have.

03:44 Imagine if this planet is uninhabitable or is like we are living in an ice age.

03:49 How will we even experience these things?

03:50 How will we live in these things?

03:52 So I just wanted to kind of bring up this perspective more from the connection around

03:57 spirituality and more from, you know, you were talking about materialism and that's

04:04 so much, you know, there's so much connection and then kind of eventual connection with

04:08 even climate crisis, just keeping our planet in a great state for centuries and centuries

04:15 and centuries to come and for everyone to have these experiences.

04:20 You see, it's a very pertinent thing you have raised and thank you for that.

04:26 There is obviously beauty in physical nature, Prakriti, but even as it is lovely, beautiful,

04:41 mesmerizing, tranquilizing, there will be people who will come up with stuff like, so

04:46 what do we do?

04:47 We return to the jungle to enjoy all the scenes and the pleasantness or somebody might say,

04:54 so we give up all the things that are man-made and just be there.

04:59 Is that what we were to do?

05:01 Maybe we can go there once in two months for a weekend, just consume the beauty and come

05:08 back.

05:09 So to that extent, everyone would agree with what you are saying.

05:14 How to make people be more participative in this description that you just gave?

05:23 I have a small suggestion.

05:26 Man is a special species.

05:29 We cannot live by what is nature made alone.

05:36 We cannot just live by that which is Prakriti.

05:41 So man, human beings that is, homo sapiens, man will build, man will create.

05:51 We will not find gadgets and computers or even great works of art and literature on

05:59 the mountains by themselves.

06:01 Man is going to create.

06:03 So there is beauty in stuff that is not man-made.

06:08 There is obvious beauty there.

06:09 The moon is beautiful, the stars are beautiful, the night is so damn beautiful.

06:12 There is beauty there.

06:14 There also needs to be beauty in what we make and we are builders, we are creators

06:21 by our very constitution.

06:22 We will create.

06:24 If you force man to not to create, he'll be suffocated internally.

06:28 And we have created this.

06:30 We have created all the great works of philosophy.

06:34 We have created music, we have created theatre, drama, art.

06:39 We have created huge ships and we have created concepts.

06:46 We will create.

06:48 The thing is to create in a beautiful way.

06:54 And what is beautiful?

06:56 That which does not merely gratify you in the short term, but actually addresses the

07:10 very core of your restlessness.

07:16 That is the definition of beauty that comes from the deepest of the philosophies.

07:24 And that's why we have said, because you talked of Sundarta, Satyam Shivam Sundaram, that

07:30 which cuts the very roots of the falseness within you, that alone is beautiful.

07:39 Nothing else deserves to be called beautiful.

07:41 So whatever we do needs to have the same kind of beauty that the top of a virgin hill has.

07:51 Right. Or a beautiful mountainous river has.

08:00 Those are the symbols of beauty that we have.

08:05 The eyes of a baby deer or even the roar of a lion.

08:12 Those are the things that we talk of as naturally beautiful.

08:16 Right.

08:17 A well looking man or a luxurious woman.

08:23 Those are the things that we talk of.

08:26 How about the camera?

08:28 How about the car?

08:32 How about the mobile phone?

08:34 These two need to be beautiful.

08:37 Our technologies too need to be beautiful.

08:39 Everything that we do needs to be beautiful.

08:43 And if it is not beautiful, one of the very inevitable side effects will be that it will

08:51 destroy physical beauty as well.

08:55 Because we are not beautiful, so we are destroying all the beauty around.

09:01 Because we are not beautiful, so we are destroying all the beauty around.

09:04 So if you want to preserve that beauty that you encountered and were mesmerized by, you

09:10 will have to first of all turn human beings into something beautiful.

09:16 And we have the capacity to be both.

09:18 Terribly ugly and enchantingly beautiful.

09:22 The question is, what is the choice we are making?

09:24 Do we want to be beautiful?

09:26 Do we want to be ugly?

09:28 Do we want to pretend to be beautiful, remaining ugly?

09:31 All kinds of choices are possible.

09:34 What is the choice we are making?

09:35 If we are ugly, mind you, that will show up in the way our beaches are.

09:42 And I looked at the Bombay beaches, and I wanted to run away to Goa.

09:47 Having been to Goa twice in the last two, three months, it's difficult to take this

09:53 as a beach.

09:56 And you look at anything, you look at even the faces of just four year olds, and you

10:02 are compelled to say, "No, this is not beautiful.

10:05 This is not beautiful.

10:06 This is terribly conditioned.

10:08 It has ugliness and distortion writ large over it.

10:13 How do I call it beautiful?"

10:16 So beauty is what we need to aspire for, rather than just more and meaningless material accumulation.

10:26 And remember, when you have beauty, there is beauty in life, there is beauty in the

10:31 heart, there is beauty in the eyes that look at the beauty.

10:36 Then the desperate urge to have more and more of this and that is kept in check.

10:43 Not that you become a renunciate.

10:45 Don't, don't be afraid.

10:47 Not that you just throw everything away and walk away to the jungles.

10:51 It's just that then there is a beautiful harmony.

10:58 Having said what I'm saying right here, we all will always need clothes.

11:03 And it's all right for textile technology to keep progressing.

11:09 It's all right if our garments keep getting better and better.

11:12 But better and better is one thing.

11:16 And more and more is another thing.

11:19 It's great to have the cars that we have today.

11:21 Electric cars are wonderful.

11:22 Or do we want to go back to that daddy ambassador?

11:27 It's obviously better to have the cars that we have today.

11:30 But then we must know what that car is for.

11:34 If we know what the car is being built for, the car will be beautiful.

11:38 And our relationship with the car will be beautiful.

11:40 Otherwise everything will be ugly and the car will be driven with the ugliest purposes

11:45 to the ugliest destinations and will turn all the places it goes to as very, very ugly.

11:53 That's what we are doing to all our hillsides.

11:55 We hold our camps at Rishikesh.

11:57 And I've been a regular there over the last decade.

12:01 And the place has lost so much of its beauty so rapidly.

12:05 10 years, 10 years, nothing.

12:08 In 10 years, I have seen that place being denuded of what it was blessed with.

12:16 It has been raped, literally.

12:21 So this is, I mean, you are meaning beauty more from a very metaphorical perspective.

12:26 No, very, very practical perspective.

12:28 I'm not trying to be poetic here.

12:31 What I'm saying is, you have a restlessness within and that's a central problem.

12:37 That's what made you come out of the jungle.

12:40 That's what makes us do whatever we do every day, right?

12:42 If we are perfectly okay, we will not do much of what we currently do.

12:47 Then we'll do other things.

12:49 What a sick man does cannot be the same as what he does when he is healthy.

12:55 In your sickness, especially if you're mentally sick, you will do a lot of insane things.

12:59 And that's how we are.

13:01 When you get all right from here, it's not that you cease work altogether.

13:06 It's just that the quality of your work changes in a great way.

13:12 So what we start saying is, but if we stop doing all this that we currently do, will

13:18 there be nothing left to do?

13:19 Only chai, pani?

13:20 No, that's not true.

13:22 You will have higher order things to do.

13:24 You will have beautiful things to create.

13:26 You will have a beautiful life to live.

13:29 So we have that restlessness within.

13:33 Beauty is that which brings that restlessness to a stop.

13:40 That is the definition of a beauty.

13:42 That's why I quoted Shiva.

13:45 The destroyer of falseness, the destroyer of all kinds of weaknesses.

13:51 Our weaknesses drive us.

13:52 Our weaknesses are our engine.

13:54 And carbon is the emission.

13:57 So beauty is that which can lift you up from your terrible mess.

14:03 That which lifts you up has to be called as beautiful.

14:07 That which drags you down is to be called as the ugliest.

14:11 If we don't live in a beautiful way, we'll destroy all the beauty that we inherited.

14:21 What are your thoughts on recycling in all aspects?

14:28 And I want to know if it can be used in the sense of recycling human beings also.

14:36 Actually it is a part of the adaptation process because it's not as if climate change is something

14:43 reversible.

14:44 Carbon dioxide hangs around in the atmosphere for centuries.

14:49 So it's not as if we are talking in a futuristic way.

14:52 We are in the middle of it.

14:54 We talked of the sixth mass extinction.

14:57 It's not going to happen.

14:58 We are right in the middle of it.

15:00 It's not even started.

15:02 We are in the middle of it.

15:05 The number of species we are wiping out every day is unimaginable.

15:09 How many species do you think are getting obliterated every day?

15:12 Two, four, five, a dozen?

15:16 It's in hundreds.

15:17 We are not talking of number of animals or something getting killed.

15:20 We are talking of species getting permanently obliterated per day.

15:24 Per day, per day, per day.

15:27 So the extinction is very much here.

15:30 We are in the middle of it.

15:32 So you have to adapt to it.

15:33 Because you're in the middle of it, you have to adapt to it.

15:35 You have to adapt to it.

15:36 And adaptation would mean that you need to have support services.

15:41 You need to have different kinds of houses.

15:45 You need to have societies that are not very dispersed.

15:51 Because the more dispersed you are, the more is your need for energy.

15:59 You need to have different kinds of commuting patterns.

16:03 You need to have different designs of workplaces.

16:07 All those things will be there.

16:09 So recycling is one of the things.

16:11 Recycling, reworking.

16:14 All these are part of the adaptation process.

16:19 However, recycling is much in the same league as hoping that green technologies can be a

16:28 solution to the problem of climate change.

16:35 You see, when you recycle, what is it that you do?

16:38 Not that recycling is a bad thing to do.

16:40 I'm all for recycling.

16:41 When you recycle, you relieve yourself of the guilt of your carbon footprint.

16:48 Again, I admit that the carbon footprint of the average individual, especially the average

16:53 Indian individual is anyway not that big.

16:56 But still, when you recycle, you console yourself that you have done your bit.

17:04 Your center, the very center of consumption does not change.

17:09 But you have found out a very economical way, dare I say cheap, to relieve yourself of your

17:16 inner guilt.

17:17 No, I'm a nice man.

17:18 What have I done?

17:19 You know, I recycle, I do not use much plastic.

17:23 You know, when I'm going out, I take care to switch off that 10 watts bulb.

17:33 And you are certifying yourself as a proper individual just because you take these measures.

17:38 It doesn't help much.

17:40 The center remains the same.

17:42 And it is from that center that the very dangerous concept of green technologies has emerged.

17:49 Again, I'm all for green technologies.

17:52 But green technologies are not a part of the solution.

17:56 They can be at most a part of adaptation.

18:00 These are two different things.

18:02 When you have a long term chronic disease, right, there is one thing called management

18:09 of the disease.

18:10 There is another thing called treatment is the same as management, there is the thing

18:15 cure of the disease.

18:17 Cure does not exist now.

18:21 Cure does not exist now, but the disease can get so very progressed that it can become

18:28 fatal very, very soon, very soon.

18:31 It is not reversible anymore, mind you.

18:35 Even when we talk of net zero emissions, we are not talking of reducing the emissions.

18:40 And net zero we are targeting by 2050.

18:43 It is not reversible anymore.

18:47 Prevention.

18:49 That would involve a change in who we are.

18:57 The change in who we are.

19:01 Climate change and the very center of human beings.

19:05 Am I being too abstract when I say center?

19:09 What do you mean when I say center?

19:11 The center of the very core of the very idea we live by, the very tendency we follow.

19:18 That's what I'm calling as a center.

19:22 Those who think in terms of thoughts, ideas, and to them I'll say it is the mother thought

19:31 you hold as sacred, that you can call as a center.

19:34 Those who can understand, to them I'll say it is the very tendency that drives the human

19:38 being.

19:39 That's the center.

19:40 That's the center.

19:41 Unless there is a shift in the center, a solution to the problem of climate change is not there.

19:48 It's not possible.

19:49 Probably a solution is anyway not possible, but you can at least have a great response

19:54 that's coming from you.

19:55 The way I look at it is, you know, the battle is worth fighting.

20:03 So fight it like Krishna taught you.

20:08 Probably a defeat is already prescripted.

20:15 But fight it in the most honorable and valiant way possible so that you can die like a man.

20:25 So the level of public awareness is just so low and the indifference is just so high that

20:34 probably a victory isn't going to happen.

20:38 And it's not in us.

20:39 Carbon dioxide is there.

20:41 It's already what 440 ppm.

20:43 280 is what we need.

20:45 It's 440 ppm and it's increasing.

20:48 And it's increasing at an accelerating rate.

20:51 So what victory are we dreaming of?

20:53 Victory is not going to happen.

20:56 It's just that maybe this is an opportunity to correct ourselves one last time before

21:01 we are wiped out.

21:03 Another Titanic story, you know, before you finally sink.

21:07 Have one last great kiss.

21:10 You are anyway going to go.

21:12 You are anyway going to.

21:13 The ship is struck and you cannot redeem it anymore.

21:17 It's sinking.

21:18 We are sinking.

21:19 The planet is gone.

21:20 The planet is as good as gone.

21:21 I'm not trying to be a doomsday kind of.

21:26 No, not that.

21:28 I'm only stating the facts.

21:31 I'm only stating the facts.

21:33 We are gone.

21:34 We are finished.

21:35 We are finished.

21:36 And we do not even want to survive.

21:41 There is something within us that is so terribly angry at its own existence that it wants to

21:49 die.

21:50 We are suicidal.

21:53 As a species, we don't really want to exist.

21:56 Otherwise, we couldn't have been living the way we do.

22:00 I'm not just being metaphorical and all hot air.

22:07 Were we really serious about survival?

22:11 Would we live the way we do?

22:13 Would we ignore the data we do?

22:16 We don't do that.

22:17 Maybe we just think we are invincible or something.

22:20 Or inconsequential.

22:21 Or inconsequential.

22:22 I would rather go with that.

22:26 We are simply invalid.

22:31 We don't deserve to live.

22:34 It's a mass suicide mission mankind is on.

22:38 We don't want to exist.

22:40 The only problem is.

22:44 Some want to exist.

22:45 Some want to exist and we are taking a billion other species down with us.

22:54 What's the, that again, that little bird got to do with it.

22:59 Why have we destroyed her nest?

23:02 Why have we just totally de-feathered her?

23:10 She did nothing.

23:11 Why are, why is the entire planet suffering for the mindlessness of this one species?

23:22 But if we send out the message that hey, doomsday is coming, then there will also be significant

23:27 amount of people who will be like, let's just enjoy.

23:32 Nobody likes bad news.

23:33 Let's just do more materialism.

23:35 Let's just consume more.

23:37 Anyways, it's going to die.

23:39 Let's just, you know, do more and go.

23:41 I don't think that would be the response.

23:45 Even as I say that mankind is suicidal, I always remain sanguine about the other center.

23:54 The other center.

23:55 We all have the potential to be great, beautiful, realized.

24:02 That potential exists and it's that potential I would always bet on, even against the odds.

24:09 Though mostly I lose the bet.

24:13 But I would still prefer to never give up.

24:19 We don't have an option.

24:20 Kids are still being born.

24:21 They deserve a future, don't they?

24:24 And I'm not talking of merely human kids.

24:28 Kids are being born even till this date and they have done no wrong.

24:33 Why must they suffer?

24:37 The issue of climate justice is very important.

24:41 The ones who are responsible, they are not suffering.

24:44 The ones who are least responsible are suffering the most.

24:50 Think of all the cyclones and hurricanes and tornadoes and which are the countries that

24:58 suffer most.

24:59 Think of the Pakistan floods.

25:01 Third world countries have not done much and yet they suffer the most.

25:09 So climate justice, it involves people within this species.

25:14 It also involves people outside this species.

25:17 It says that we don't take them as people.

25:29 Is this discussion invigorating or depressing?

25:33 Invigorating, of course.

25:37 So that's the thing.

25:39 I hope that this does not turn off a lot of people, rather makes them realize that they

25:47 can be better.

25:51 It's not a problem that technology can solve.

25:56 It's a problem only spirituality can solve.

25:59 Unless we become better people, there is no way we can even begin to address this problem.

26:07 There is no technological solution to the problem of climate change.

26:12 You cannot have green technologies.

26:14 You know, people are talking of machines that will suck out the carbon from the...

26:21 It says that those machines will emit more carbon than they...

26:26 The machines that really suck carbon from the atmosphere are called by the simple names

26:31 of trees.

26:34 But those machines we are not ready to admit.

26:39 Instead we want to make huge machines that will...

26:42 Come on, come on, it's absorbing carbon.

26:45 Do we understand the size of the atmosphere?

26:47 What kind of machines are we talking of?

26:49 What will power those machines?

26:50 Do we really have technologies, green technologies that can power such huge machines?

26:57 Most of the world's energy is still coming from fossil fuels.

27:01 Fossil fuels are anyway going to run out.

27:03 Why not switch to other technologies?

27:05 Though I'm not saying switching to other technology is a solution.

27:08 We said technology is not the solution.

27:10 But still as an adaptation, just to convince ourselves of the beginning of our sincerity.

27:18 Why can't we begin with these things?

27:20 But even if we develop the greenest of technologies, that's not the solution.

27:27 The solution is a fundamental change in the human being.

27:31 If we continue to remain the people we are, what do you think?

27:39 The COVID pandemic had nothing to do with climate change.

27:44 Everything to do with climate change.

27:47 Because our population is exploding, we are getting deeper into the jungles.

27:51 Because the jungles are getting hotter, the creatures over there have to get into the

27:57 human habitations.

28:00 Therefore these two are now coming in contact and hence the virus would spread.

28:05 Yesterday, it was the coronavirus.

28:09 Tomorrow it would be some other virus.

28:12 Because these two, man and the beast, who used to live peacefully in their own demarcated

28:20 provinces are being forced to come in contact.

28:25 You are breeding more and more kids, so you need land.

28:30 So what do you do?

28:31 You get into the jungle, you hack down the forests.

28:34 Where will those creatures go?

28:36 Obviously they will enter your villages, your towns and then there is contact and then the

28:40 virus spreads.

28:42 We will have more such events.

28:50 Remember even if we are to say that it's not really that we, that mankind as a whole got

28:59 into the jungle.

29:02 It is believed that it was a team of researchers that entered a particular cave containing

29:06 those bats that had the virus.

29:09 What kind of research do you want to do and to what end?

29:23 So I get your point of there needs to be a shift in the center and more spirit, like

29:32 becoming a better human being through a spiritual path or whatever we want to call it.

29:37 So that's a global change that needs to happen if we need to do anything about climate

29:45 change.

29:46 Eventually, that's the first step before, we are not even acknowledging that climate

29:50 change or climate crisis even exists.

29:52 There are so many deniers.

29:54 So we are not even to that position.

29:57 But I still feel like as part of this discussion, if we can even come up with, hey here's what

30:06 someone can do, sitting as an individual in their homes.

30:10 Hey, this is what I can do to probably do something at least.

30:19 Is there something like everyone of, I'm not saying more from a spiritual shift, right?

30:23 That's a much harder battle to win.

30:25 But can we do something on the side as well, each one of us, that is easier to do.

30:30 Talk about it.

30:32 Talk about it.

30:34 And when you talk, confess that talking is not sufficient.

30:41 See you cannot remain the same person in the same home, doing the same things, living the

30:46 same way and yet hope to do something about this historical threat.

30:56 We are still not waking up to the magnitude of the tragedy.

31:04 That's the reason I opened this by using the word sixth mass extinction.

31:10 We are still not gathering the full import of what that means.

31:17 That's not about a few people dying here and there.

31:21 That's about the entire race getting wiped out.

31:24 And we are responsible for that.

31:26 That's not happening due to incidental reasons.

31:30 It's called man-made climate change.

31:37 It's anthropomorphic, AGW, global warming.

31:44 We are doing it.

31:45 We are not getting it.

31:46 So how can we even talk of just cozily remaining ensconced in our chairs and beds and lives

31:55 and carrying on with our daily business and as a sidey thing, doing some teeny weeny bit

32:00 for it.

32:01 Won't work, won't work.

32:04 But if you do want to do some sidey thing, I'll request you talk so that the words reach

32:10 at least those people who are prepared to do the real thing.

32:15 You can't do much, then at least spread the message.

32:19 Let people know what's going on.

32:20 Let people know that nothing is more important than this.

32:24 Nothing is going to be wiped out what will remain.

32:26 So how can anything else will be more important?

32:29 This is the thing.

32:31 Nothing else matters.

32:32 It's like, you know, the Titanic has been hit and people are so busy partying.

32:42 Nobody wants to eat.

32:43 There's already a hole in the... and water is gushing in at a terrible rate each passing

32:57 moment.

32:58 There are no repair shops around.

33:02 Technology is not the solution.

33:07 So what do we do?

33:08 Are we doomed to die?

33:10 We can do something.

33:13 We can do something.

33:15 Try not to be the one you currently are.

33:21 It's an opportunity to be a better self.

33:26 And only that is a solution.

33:30 It's in some way, mankind is being forced to choose extinction or divinity.

33:48 Either be great or be gone.

33:53 You cannot survive the way you are.

33:56 If you remain the way you are, you're gone.

33:59 The only way to remain is by remaining as great people.

34:08 Choose to be great, choose to be beautiful, choose to be sensible, choose to see.

34:16 And then there might be a chance.

34:27 Thank you so much Acharya ji for all your time.

34:29 Really really appreciate you sharing your thoughts around all the questions we had and

34:35 around all these topics.

34:38 Very much appreciated.

34:39 Did you guys want to share?

34:40 Yes, it's very enlightening.

34:43 And I think more such philosophical discussions should happen not just within homes but with

34:48 larger community spaces.

34:50 I think it is very important that we go back to the roots of what philosophy means and

34:54 that is to spread the wisdom of knowledge amongst people so that we get a better centre.

34:59 Thank you so much for this.

35:01 I feel that these are certain things that we all know of but we don't think of it.

35:05 After this conversation it's really going to stay in my mind at least and I hope that

35:08 this helps the audience as well.

35:10 And I hope that Big Brain Go can make some videos around this.

35:13 Many many more videos.

35:14 You guys have a very important role.

35:18 Wonderful.

35:19 Thank you so much.

35:22 Thank you.

35:23 Thank you.

35:24 Thank you.

35:25 Thank you.

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