Australian Katherine Knight skinned and decapitated her errant lover and Blanche Taylor-Moore poisoned her hospitalised partner. Two examples of deadly women who prove the adage `hell hath no fury like a woman scorned'.
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00:00She hated men so much that she wanted to do in the ones that she came in contact with.
00:16These are the stories of terrible deeds.
00:22There were the kings and queens. They decided about life and death.
00:30Of crimes written in blood on history's pages.
00:34The court decided that she was sane and she could have been the person next door.
00:39She had a death wish.
00:40She killed the only thing she ever loved and she wanted to die.
00:43Across time and across continents, something united these murderers.
00:49Some women believe that they are entitled to kill a man who cheats on them.
00:56They were driven by the emotion of the ages.
00:59They say about 45 to 60 minutes it took the patients to die.
01:04The darkest force of all.
01:07It was hard for me to say well how could any human do that to any other human.
01:11For these deadly women, it was time for revenge.
01:15She was madly in love with him. Desperately in love with him.
01:18And he wasn't with her.
01:20Police detective Sergeant Bob Wells tries to forget the day he discovered one of Australia's most shocking crimes.
01:50You just sort of have lost the majority of your senses for a short period of time
01:54until they actually regathered them and realized that it was reality and not a horror scene.
02:00Daily swims are an attempt to wash away the images still lurking in his subconscious.
02:09Clothing.
02:12Cutlery.
02:16Meat.
02:21Something I'm still trying to come to grips with even today emotionally and mentally.
02:27Bob Wells would be just one of the lives forever changed by the deeds of Catherine Knight.
02:34I think most of us expect somebody who's done what Catherine's done to have
02:38horns growing out of her head or to be restrained like Hannibal Lecter.
02:42But she was a very ordinary looking woman.
02:45Another to be affected would be journalist and author Peter Lala.
02:50Assigned to a story his newspaper couldn't publish.
02:55Editors make a decision whether a story is palatable for people to read with
02:59their breakfast in the morning.
03:01And there was a decision made that this one wasn't palatable.
03:04It couldn't be reported.
03:06It was too horrific.
03:08But like many, Catherine drew him in.
03:12I wanted to know that a person who could do what Catherine Knight did was insane or not sentient.
03:24But the court decided that she was sane and she could have been the person next door.
03:32Catherine Knight seemed to live on the edge.
03:36She had a wild temper.
03:39She had too many boyfriends.
03:42Too many fathers for the children.
03:45She came from a wild family.
03:49By her early 40s, Catherine had experienced four rocky relationships.
03:58Each time she was asked to leave.
04:04But each time she found her way back.
04:08She knew how to keep a bloke happy.
04:10She put up their mates drinking in the shed.
04:14She had dinner ready when they got home.
04:16Generally, she knew how to keep a bloke and she was manipulative like that.
04:20I think she was a very hard woman.
04:22Very strong.
04:28Her fiance, John Price, was the type of man Catherine sought out.
04:33She was a tough country girl and they were tough country blokes.
04:37They loved to drink.
04:38They liked to knees up on a Saturday night.
04:45But all too soon, each partner discovered Catherine's secret.
04:52An illness called borderline personality disorder.
04:58Borderline personality disorder is kind of a catch-all term for a condition that manifests
05:05itself, the individual, and it's usually women.
05:08It can be men.
05:10Very moody.
05:12Tremendous mood swings.
05:17Former FBI criminal profiler Candice DeLong says sufferers can turn quickly from lovers to fighters.
05:25They feel slighted when there was no slight.
05:29They are prone to being very suspicious that their partner is cheating on them.
05:35Everything reflects back to somebody is taking advantage of me and I must do something about it.
05:45John Price usually weathered the stormy Catherine,
05:48knowing the loving Catherine would soon return.
05:52Then one day, his partner went over the line,
05:56threatening his job at the coal mine with a home video.
06:01She'd filmed the contents of his garden shed,
06:03and in Price's garden shed was a first aid kit from the mine, which he'd allegedly stolen.
06:10The pair had argued over money.
06:12Catherine wanted revenge.
06:15She sent the video to the mine boss, suggesting John was a thief.
06:21The most important thing in most men's lives is their job.
06:25And that is the one area that the woman may feel if she can mess this up for him,
06:30all the better.
06:33John was fired.
06:35He threw her out of the house, said he'd never have her back.
06:43Unfortunately, he had it back within six months because Catherine turned
06:46on the sweet loving side again and got back in there somehow.
06:51One man knew what John Price was going through.
07:01What her mother said to me, just after we first got married,
07:05she said, you want to watch this one.
07:07If you do the wrong thing, she will kill you.
07:12Catherine's first husband, David Kellett.
07:16And I brushed it off as just one of those things that mothers say,
07:19and it didn't really dawn on me that one day she would go over the edge.
07:27In late 1999, David and John met to compare notes.
07:32I knew John Price, and he said to me, he wants to get out of the relationship,
07:37but he's scared to get out.
07:38And I said, well, these days you take all these domestic violence orders against each other,
07:45whatever.
07:46And he was just so scared.
07:47He was almost shaking.
07:49He was really scared.
07:53Little did either man know Catherine would soon commit one of Australia's most shocking crimes.
08:03In 1990, journalist Martha Quillen found the story of her career in North Carolina.
08:11People thought she was such a fine person, and how could she have done this?
08:15And yet the reality of what she had done was so brutal and so cruel
08:20that people were just fascinated in this dual personality in this one woman.
08:27To the world, Blanche Taylor Moore was a caring Christian,
08:32a compassionate woman led by spiritual commitment.
08:41So when her boyfriend, Raymond Reed, was hospitalized,
08:45no one was surprised at Blanche's constant care.
08:50She was sort of beloved, I think, on the floor where he stayed.
08:54And the nurses testified that they thought she was a wonderful person and very caring,
08:58and that, you know, Raymond was very lucky to have someone like that come in to see him.
09:03Raymond was diagnosed with Guillain-Barré syndrome.
09:08Guillain-Barré syndrome is also known as French polio.
09:13It is a autoimmune disorder.
09:18The symptoms are muscle weakness, nerve tingling, progressive fatigue,
09:24and eventually may even lead to difficulty breathing.
09:28Despite the best care, Raymond was destined to die.
09:35Again and again.
09:40He actually died and was revived.
09:42His heart failed and he had kidney failure and died, and they revived him.
09:50Raymond was a very, very kind person.
09:52He was a very, very kind person.
09:55Several times, Raymond died a clinical death, losing heartbeat and respiration.
10:02But each time, expert medical staff pulled him back from the brink.
10:10Each time, Blanche was waiting with more comfort.
10:15Apparently, she had a heart attack.
10:18Each time, Blanche was waiting with more comfort.
10:23Apparently, she, you know, she took great care in preparing this food
10:26because hospital food was just not good enough for the man that she loved.
10:30But whenever Raymond regained strength, there was another relapse.
10:39A terrifying roller coaster of life and death.
10:43He's confused and frightened and, you know, thinking he's going to die,
10:48and then he begins to get better, and then he starts to die again.
10:50And they say it's a horrible death. It's a really horrible way to die.
11:04Raymond Reed died the final time in October 1986.
11:10In my experience of writing about murders and covering murder trials,
11:13I think they all think that they're smarter than everybody else,
11:17and they're not going to be caught.
11:22Within two years, Blanche had moved on, into the arms of Reverend Dwight Moore.
11:33He was a minister who courted her and pursued her,
11:37and she finally married him.
11:40It seemed a match made in heaven.
11:50But during the honeymoon, the reverend fell deathly ill.
11:58Although the symptoms mimicked Guillain-Barre syndrome,
12:02the speed of onset raised suspicions.
12:08He happened to end up in a hospital where they had the smarts to test him for arsenic poisoning.
12:13And when they found huge doses of arsenic in his system,
12:17they immediately suspected that she had given it to him.
12:25Reverend Moore's constitution foiled Blanche's plan.
12:30Against the odds, he survived.
12:33Investigators later said that he had survived the largest dose of arsenic
12:37any human was ever known to have survived.
12:40So she was just unlucky.
12:41She poisoned someone whose system was stronger than she was.
12:49Blanche would be charged with assault,
12:52and police probed further, exhuming the body of Raymond Reed.
12:57The chief medical examiner in North Carolina, John Butts, M.D.,
13:01exposed one of the state's most audacious murders.
13:05This is a graphing of the quantities of arsenic that were found in Mr. Reed's hair.
13:10And this tells us that that initial illness was a result of arsenic poisoning,
13:14but also tells us that he continued to receive arsenic while he was in the hospital.
13:20Blanche was arrested and charged with murder.
13:23Blanche was arrested and charged with murder.
13:27During her trial, jurors heard how Blanche killed her victim with kindness.
13:35All the evidence indicates that she was bringing poison to the hospital
13:40disguised with or contained within some of the food that she fed him,
13:43and continued to poison in the hospital until ultimately he died.
13:48During her sentencing phase, the state actually argued that that this murder,
13:53that his murder should be viewed as a serial murder,
13:55because she killed him over and over again.
14:01And there were more suspicions.
14:04At one point, it looked like they were going to dig up everybody in about three counties
14:07and test them for arsenic.
14:08Anybody that had known Blanche Taylor Moore at any time in their lives was going to be tested.
14:18We exhumed five individuals.
14:20They were individuals who it was believed that Mrs. Moore had some connection with.
14:24Obviously, they were deceased individuals,
14:26and there were symptoms or circumstances surrounding the death
14:29that raised the possibility of arsenic poisoning.
14:34Traces of arsenic were found in the bodies of Blanche's first husband and her father.
14:41Although cleared of involvement with her father's death,
14:45Sun believed their troubled relationship set a young Blanche on a course of revenge.
14:51We know that he was a womanizer.
14:52We know that he left the family.
14:54I think she replicated that sort of tortured relationship
14:58with the other men that she became involved with during her life.
15:04They may love their husband, but as soon as things turn south,
15:08or they are made angry by him,
15:10he may represent bad daddy, and he will be the target of their wrath.
15:18She may kill her father over and over and over again.
15:25Convicted of one murder count and charged with another,
15:29Blanche Taylor Moore awaits execution on death row.
15:41London, 1955.
15:51And a pretty club hostess, Ruth Ellis, had no idea she was about to divide a nation
15:58and make British legal history.
16:05Good time, girl.
16:06At 19, she's running a club in the West End of London,
16:10getting people to, you know, buy drinks at extortionate prices.
16:17And she would con people into spending and partying with a lot of money here in the club.
16:29Ex-policeman John Ross oversees Scotland Yard's crime museum,
16:34where Ruth Ellis is remembered.
16:36We collect items from famous cases and display them in the museum.
16:41The stories that go with all these cases, you know, you learn from history.
16:46Nothing ever changes.
16:55Many men fell under Ruth's spell, but only one would dominate her attention.
17:02The dashing David Blakey.
17:04Self-centred, racing car driver, never actually going to make it,
17:09but spent all his life, rich boy, just running around, enjoying himself.
17:18She was madly in love with him, desperately in love with him, and he wasn't with her.
17:23But after a two-year relationship,
17:26the suave race car driver was proving hard to tie down.
17:34A girl can have affairs with other women all the time.
17:39Purely self-centred, selfish man, a playboy.
17:44Each dalliance delivered more frustration for Ruth.
17:49David's philandering didn't seem to slow down.
17:52When Ruth became pregnant with his baby, things only became worse.
17:58He punched her in the stomach.
18:00Whether that was to get rid of the baby or it was just one of their violent moments,
18:04you will never know.
18:04But all he did was send her a bunch of flowers the next day and said,
18:07sorry, man was in.
18:12Ruth lost her baby and planned her revenge.
18:27A gun is an interesting weapon because it allows the shooter, the killer,
18:32to dispatch their victim without even getting close to them.
18:40It's all going to be over in a matter of minutes.
18:46This is a small calibre revolver.
18:49This is classified as a low-velocity handgun.
18:52In other words, the speed at which the bullet would be leaving the end of the muzzle
18:57would be less than 2,000 feet per second.
18:59On April 10th, 1955, David Blakey was drinking in the Magdala pub in North London.
19:14Ruth and her weapon were ready.
19:19The reason this is such an effective weapon is that it doesn't take much force at all
19:23to pull the trigger.
19:24In fact, probably two to three, maybe four pounds of pressure.
19:34As they came out of the pub, Ruth Ellis stepped out of the shadows and called his name.
19:40David.
19:44Fired two shots at him.
19:49When a bullet enters a body, it perforates through the skin.
19:52As it does so, it will damage blood vessels and it will cause massive internal bleeding.
19:58Blood will accumulate and the body will go into shock
20:02when it has lost approximately 20% of its circulating blood volume.
20:11It was a very public murder.
20:13Many witnesses.
20:15In 1955, murder was a capital offence.
20:19The problem for Ruth Ellis was she had a death wish.
20:22She'd killed the only thing she ever loved and she wanted to die.
20:30Facing a death sentence, Ruth offered no resistance at her trial.
20:35You know, she was actually admitted when asked about firing the bullets into David Blakey.
20:40She said, yeah, of course I went there.
20:42I went to the Magdala pub that evening with the intention of
20:47shooting David Blakey and killing him.
20:51Now she's admitted the premeditation.
20:53She's admitted the act.
20:54She has to be found guilty.
20:55She has to be found guilty of murder.
21:01Although many believed Ruth was driven to murder by her victim's actions,
21:06English law at the time could make no concession.
21:10It's difficult to imagine a civilized society putting to death a killer
21:20who had a clear-cut history of abuse from the individual that they killed.
21:29Despite public protests and parliamentary petitions,
21:3328-year-old Ruth Ellis was found guilty of murder.
21:3728-year-old Ruth Ellis was hanged at Holloway Prison.
21:49It would be a turning point in English justice.
21:55New laws recognizing battered woman syndrome and diminished responsibility would follow.
22:00Within 10 years, capital punishment was suspended.
22:06Ruth would be the last woman executed in England.
22:15In an undisclosed Australian city, David Kellett lives in hiding.
22:24Although he left his ex-wife many years ago,
22:27Although he left his ex-wife many years ago,
22:30recent events make him fear for his life.
22:38His former spouse is Catherine Knight.
22:42You can't change a psychopath and I believe in my own heart
22:45she's a psychopathic killer and she'll never change.
22:48In a small Australian town, Catherine and David, her first love, planned a life together.
22:56To start with, she's the most wonderful woman I think you could wish for.
23:00So departed, perfect mother, perfect housewife.
23:04But Catherine's borderline personality disorder was never far from the surface.
23:10She could snap, just snap, she could break, snap, snap.
23:14from the surface.
23:15She could snap, just like a biscuit.
23:23One night, a darts competition almost ended David's life.
23:29One of the elements of borderline personality disorder is that you cannot stand abandonment.
23:34And that means if somebody says they're going to be home at ten o'clock, you want them home
23:37at ten o'clock.
23:38And by five past ten, you're in a rage.
23:43By ten past ten, you're in a murderous rage.
23:51And she rang about, I think about ten o'clock, and said, the pub's closed, come on home.
23:56And I said, well, the darts competition hasn't quite finished yet, I'll be home when I'm
24:00ready.
24:03There was an insult to the core when he said, I'll be home from the pub shortly.
24:09She took that as the same as being stabbed in the heart, as total rejection.
24:15And the way to make herself feel better is to exact revenge.
24:20When somebody's getting stressed, it's usually a reaction that comes down to fear.
24:27Fear causes the release of adrenaline or epinephrine.
24:31So the heart would start beating more rapidly.
24:35Somebody would start breathing more quickly.
24:38There would be that fight or flight reaction.
24:43David Kellett was coming home to a biochemical maelstrom.
24:47She hit me so hard on the back of the head that my eyes went black.
24:53I wake up two days later in the hospital.
24:59But there was something more frightening than Catherine's moods.
25:03A slaughterhouse worker, she brought her tools home to hang above the marital bed.
25:13The knives were hanging on the wall.
25:14I'd put a special hook there so she could hang her knives.
25:17And no one touched the knives.
25:20Her knives were the most treasured item that God ever gave to her.
25:32We are drawn to certain jobs, hobbies, vocations, avocations because of inner needs.
25:44My guess is that she was drawn to work in a profession that allowed her to have access and use of knives on a daily basis
25:52because that was something that she found interesting, something that met some deep-seated need.
26:00She was just totally and absolutely possessed by knives.
26:04They were her life.
26:10Catherine's obsession had a name.
26:13Picarism, which is a clinical term.
26:16Someone that is aroused or finds pleasure in the idea of cutting, slicing and stabbing skin.
26:27The image in the individual's mind of the knife piercing skin is pleasant for them or even arousing.
26:39Catherine's fascination with blades and her violent moods were on a collision course.
26:48The warning signs were enough for David Kellett.
26:51He left Catherine after ten years.
26:55John Price wouldn't be so lucky.
27:04A killer's troubling behavior can alert potential victims.
27:11But for some unfortunate citizens of Vienna, Austria, there were no such clues.
27:21The motivation was obscure.
27:23The location, unusual.
27:27The perpetrators, unexpected.
27:37It was a shock around the world, what really happened here in Vienna.
27:42Max Edelbacher heads criminal investigations in Vienna's South District.
27:49In 1989, he and his team were called to the Lyons General Hospital.
27:56This is one of the largest hospitals, especially dealing with very elderly people.
28:02In the preceding three years, an alarming number of elderly patients were dying in just one wing, Pavilion 5.
28:11Investigators soon found out why.
28:16It's so terrible because you never would expect in a hospital,
28:22to have so many people dying in just one wing.
28:27It's so terrible because you never would expect in a hospital that this is a murder station.
28:39Angels of death,
28:42nurses who kill patients,
28:46usually act alone and never tell anyone.
28:53Not so in this case.
28:56Angels of death are often motivated by sympathy for their victims, or a lust for attention.
29:04In Pavilion 5, the motivation was very different.
29:13There was a lot of stress, a lot of overwork for these nurses.
29:19And in this time, in 1988 and 1989, more than 60 to 65 people were in one room.
29:28And in the night shift, only two nurses could care for these people.
29:37Elderly patients were demanding.
29:41Too demanding.
29:48They have an alarm next to their bed, and they were using this alarm each five or ten minutes.
29:57For one group of nurses, the solution was eternal silence.
30:10And they became angry, and then the siren went off.
30:15And they became angry, and then they started to select such persons who were really active in calling them.
30:26Ringleader, Vetrud Wagner, and three others had a pact.
30:32A pact made even crueler by their methods.
30:37In Vienna, Austria, forensic scientist Professor Johann Mislevitz would uncover one of his country's worst serial murders.
30:48And the unusual murder weapon, water.
30:52A little push was sufficient to put them to test to obstruct the breathing mechanism.
30:59The nurses were drowning their patients.
31:08Well, they brought the victim into a comfortable position for them.
31:14They pressed the tongue down with a spatula and poured the water into the patient's mouth.
31:22They pressed the tongue down with a spatula and poured the water into the airways.
31:33Drowning is a form of asphyxia.
31:37There will be an initial shock and an attempt to hold one's breath.
31:43When they can no longer hold it, they're going to exhale that breath and inhale water.
31:52That is going to be incredibly uncomfortable.
32:03They say about 45 to 60 minutes it took the patients to die.
32:09They started to groan, they flattened their breathing, they became pale grey, and after about an hour they were dead.
32:23The technique should have defied suspicion.
32:30Many patients already suffered from pulmonary edema, fluid in the lungs.
32:36It was assumed by them that they could get away with it,
32:41because you can't distinguish between liquid from pulmonary edema and liquid from tap water.
32:47The killing might have continued had the nurses not been so proud.
32:53Bragging is a common behavior that we see on the part of serial killers, in particular sadistic serial killers.
33:01And in particular when you have a group of them together, they're proud of what they do.
33:11A witness overheard their boasting.
33:15A witness overheard their boasting and reported to police.
33:22Police and hospital administrators could scarcely believe the magnitude of the murders.
33:28Since at first nobody wanted to accept that the problem could be so large,
33:34that the police had to investigate more than 300 cases.
33:40Exhumations and postmortems were difficult.
33:44There was a drowning often lost to decomposition.
33:49But enough was collected to prove 38 cases of homicide, with many other cases indeterminable.
34:02Nurses Waltraud Wagner and Irina Leidolf were convicted of multiple murders.
34:09They serve life sentences.
34:12The other two were convicted of manslaughter and attempted murder and sentenced for 15 years.
34:32In small town Australia, Catherine Knight was brewing her own personal storm.
34:39Her target, fiancé John Price.
34:44Catherine's ex-husband, David Kellett, knew John was playing a dangerous game.
34:52John Price was a good bloke. I'd only met him once, but I found him to be very sincere and very scared.
35:00I believe he broke off the engagement and I believe Cathy couldn't stand to be left alone again.
35:09Catherine's borderline personality disorder had proven too much.
35:18John asked her to leave, as he had done several times before.
35:23But this would be the last.
35:27Catherine would end their arguments forever.
35:32The video that Catherine made the day she killed John Price
35:35is much like the other videos in her collection.
35:41She drove to her daughter's place to film the grandchild,
35:45and there's some beautiful footage of Catherine playing with this little baby on the ground.
35:52And then there's a moment when Catherine addresses the camera and says,
35:57I love my grandchildren, I hope I'll see you all again.
36:01And it's as if she's making a last will and testament.
36:05This was a signal, a definite signal that she was going to kill John that night
36:09and that her life was not going to be the same the next morning.
36:32On the morning of March 1st, 2000,
36:35Detective Sergeant Bob Wells was called to John Price's address.
36:42It's still something that has a great effect on me today.
36:45It's something I'm still trying to come to grips with even today, emotionally and mentally.
36:52Catherine's fury created a crime scene unlike any in Australian history.
36:58I think upon walking into that particular crime scene,
37:02it was horrific carnage that was throughout that house from one end to the other.
37:09Catherine had been to work with her knives.
37:15He was stabbed approximately 37 times about the body.
37:28Information from the forensic people was that one of those blows was a failed blow to the heart,
37:33which eventually was the cause of death.
37:36One well-placed stab is all that's necessary to kill someone.
37:46Thirty-seven indicates to me a lot of anger,
37:51and probably a number of those stab wounds were post-mortem.
37:56Just couldn't stop killing him.
38:01But Catherine's revenge would go further, much further.
38:11The murder was ritualistic.
38:14Catherine went out that day, she prepared for it.
38:17She went to the welfare shop and she bought a black nightie,
38:21a sexy black nightie with buttons down the front.
38:24She went to his house late.
38:27While visiting her estranged partner, Catherine stabbed him 37 times.
38:34She did not stop there.
38:37And at some stage something clicked in Catherine's mind.
38:40She'd had her initial revenge, and then I think she decided she wanted to have some fun.
38:45She went back to the life she loved,
38:49to cutting up animals and carcasses and that sort of business.
38:54Catherine had been cooking, as she had almost every day,
39:01preparing an evening meal of meat and vegetables.
39:06When police arrived at the crime scene,
39:09they found a pot still warm on the stove,
39:15and two meals waiting on the table.
39:19In horror, Detective Sergeant Bob Wells realised
39:23that the meal was made from her former partner, John Price.
39:29I really think at the time it was hard for me to say,
39:33well how could any human do that to any other human?
39:41I cry for days, in bed, out of bed, walking around,
39:45just to think what she'd done.
39:56Catherine was found asleep in bed.
39:59She'd unsuccessfully tried to overdose on prescription drugs.
40:04The storm had passed.
40:07These deadly women were united by a vortex of revenge.
40:14But its source is as varied as their crimes.
40:18Blanche Taylor Moore.
40:21Her father was a gambler and a womaniser,
40:25and he so totally abandoned them that he just,
40:29they never even heard from him again.
40:31This woman was abused, abandoned,
40:34neglected by the most important man in her life, a father.
40:38She had relationships with men that were doomed from the beginning.
40:42She chose men with whom she could not form a stable relationship.
40:48And when it happened again,
40:51she just absolutely could not help herself,
40:55and I think that's what she did.
40:57She just absolutely could not help herself,
41:01and it was an urge that she chose to give in to.
41:04Ruth Ellis.
41:07Ten days before she shot him, she had a miscarriage.
41:11Maybe, just perhaps, a lady's mind is not going to be 100%.
41:16Getting away with it, that wasn't as important to her as,
41:20I'll show you, watch this, you can't do this to me,
41:24taking his life far exceeded the need to get away with it.
41:30The Austrian nurses.
41:33The starting point was this terrible working situation,
41:37but then they became like sisters of death.
41:41They, more and more, they felt this power over life and death.
41:46Serial killers have told us that,
41:50although their first killing wasn't something that they accomplished,
41:54they persuaded with power that, oftentimes,
41:57into their fourth and fourteenth and fiftieth killing,
42:01that the motivation was to let the person keep their life
42:04or to take their life from them.
42:06A God trip, if you will.
42:08Playing God over someone's life.
42:11And Catherine Knight.
42:14Her father had a stick above a hallway,
42:17and it was called the killing stick,
42:19and he would flog his children,
42:21absolutely flog them on the head, arms, body,
42:24it wouldn't matter where, and just totally just flog them.
42:28I think it was a built-up anger over years of failed relationships
42:36and it got to the point where she just couldn't go on any longer
42:40and the fact that she might face rejection by another partner again
42:45drove it to the point of where she just lost control.
42:51Just because she was a butcher
42:54doesn't mean she decided to do these horrible things.
42:58She became a butcher because she had an interest
43:01in cutting, slicing, and doing those kinds of things.
43:07My guess is she had feelings and thoughts
43:10and desires to do those kinds of things,
43:12the things she did to him post-mortem when she was a young girl.
43:16The court found Catherine to be of sound mind
43:19when she butchered John Price.
43:22She serves a life sentence.
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