A former CIA officer who negotiated with terrorists says she was mistaken as a honeytrap and men accuse her of lying about her old job.
Brittany Butler Jennings, 40, worked as a targeting officer for nine years in the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) before leaving in 2014.
Now a married mum-of-three, she previously helped to recruit informants from terrorist groups in Afghanistan and Iraq for American counter-terrorism missions.
Brittany would have to conduct meetings with terrorists and convince them to inform on their own to help the CIA.
She said because she was young woman working in counter-terrorism operations, often stationed in the Middle East, she would be constantly underestimated by terrorists.
Brittany claims terrorists would often assume she was there as a seductress in a "honeypot" operation - but she says this allowed her to catch people off-guard and get more information.
Even to this day, she said whenever she tells men she used to work in the CIA, she says many accuse her of lying - or ask if she was a secretary - and now her aim is normalise seeing women in the counter-terrorism field.
Brittany, from Charleston, South Carolina, US, said: "As an officer, I helped to identify an individual of interest with access to a terrorist group we were targeting - such as the Taliban or Al-Qaeda.
"Then I would be deployed to the Middle East to meet with that individual to see if they would be willing to provide information to the US Government to help dismantle the network.
"You might be able to do this by convincing them their objectives align with yours - they may be sick of the chaos and violence in their country - we want peace there too.
"We would provide them with a salary to be an informant, but it's more important to develop a rapport with the source to understand what they want to achieve.
"It wasn't a quick process - we would have to corroborate what they say, like questioning how they have access to people or information, or asking them to take a lie-detector test or meet a psychologist."
Brittany, who is now a full-time author, joined the CIA in 2006 after being recruited while working as a case officer at the American Embassy in Paris, France, after finishing university.
From then to 2010 she worked on intelligence operations between the CIA's HQ in Langley, Virginia, and Iraq, then did the same between 2010 and 2014 for counter-terrorism projects in Afghanistan.
She said the hardest part of the role would be walking into a meeting with a terrorist, not knowing whether she would be safe.
She explained in 2009 one of her own close colleagues, Darren LaBonte, along with six other members of the CIA, were killed in the Camp Chapman attack - where a suicide bomber entered a CIA base under the guise of providing intelligence.
But one of the biggest hurdles she had to overcome in the role was being a woman working in intelligence - as she says CIA jobs were more typically held by men.
Brittany Butler Jennings, 40, worked as a targeting officer for nine years in the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) before leaving in 2014.
Now a married mum-of-three, she previously helped to recruit informants from terrorist groups in Afghanistan and Iraq for American counter-terrorism missions.
Brittany would have to conduct meetings with terrorists and convince them to inform on their own to help the CIA.
She said because she was young woman working in counter-terrorism operations, often stationed in the Middle East, she would be constantly underestimated by terrorists.
Brittany claims terrorists would often assume she was there as a seductress in a "honeypot" operation - but she says this allowed her to catch people off-guard and get more information.
Even to this day, she said whenever she tells men she used to work in the CIA, she says many accuse her of lying - or ask if she was a secretary - and now her aim is normalise seeing women in the counter-terrorism field.
Brittany, from Charleston, South Carolina, US, said: "As an officer, I helped to identify an individual of interest with access to a terrorist group we were targeting - such as the Taliban or Al-Qaeda.
"Then I would be deployed to the Middle East to meet with that individual to see if they would be willing to provide information to the US Government to help dismantle the network.
"You might be able to do this by convincing them their objectives align with yours - they may be sick of the chaos and violence in their country - we want peace there too.
"We would provide them with a salary to be an informant, but it's more important to develop a rapport with the source to understand what they want to achieve.
"It wasn't a quick process - we would have to corroborate what they say, like questioning how they have access to people or information, or asking them to take a lie-detector test or meet a psychologist."
Brittany, who is now a full-time author, joined the CIA in 2006 after being recruited while working as a case officer at the American Embassy in Paris, France, after finishing university.
From then to 2010 she worked on intelligence operations between the CIA's HQ in Langley, Virginia, and Iraq, then did the same between 2010 and 2014 for counter-terrorism projects in Afghanistan.
She said the hardest part of the role would be walking into a meeting with a terrorist, not knowing whether she would be safe.
She explained in 2009 one of her own close colleagues, Darren LaBonte, along with six other members of the CIA, were killed in the Camp Chapman attack - where a suicide bomber entered a CIA base under the guise of providing intelligence.
But one of the biggest hurdles she had to overcome in the role was being a woman working in intelligence - as she says CIA jobs were more typically held by men.
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00:00As a former CIA targeting officer, I'm constantly asked how is it that you can share your experiences here on social media?
00:07I can talk about anything that I want as long as I'm not revealing classified information.
00:13I shared the story about Darren Labonte and the fact that he perished in the 2009 suicide attack on Coast Base in Afghanistan.
00:22I shared that with you because I think it's really important to remember and honor their sacrifices.
00:28We have an incredible military that do so much for our country in terms of safeguarding Americans.
00:33But we also have intelligence officers that are on the front lines working just as hard and taking really great risks in their work.
00:42And they asked if I had ever done pot, if I ever smoked it.
00:46And I said, no, I haven't. It wasn't that I had anything against anybody else that was doing it.
00:52I just like drinking alcohol in college was enough for me.
00:55And so I just never tried it.
00:57But they didn't believe me. I went to a state school, Florida State, and I was in the sorority.
01:03And they highlighted all this to me and said, we just don't believe you.
01:08And this was like on, I don't know, day two of my polygraph examination.
01:13So at this point, I've been probably sitting in that chair for two hours.
01:18I did four hours of polygraph examinations the day before.
01:22Unfortunately, you know, you failed the polygraph because we think you're lying to us.
01:28We think that you did try pot in college and you are you're a liar.
01:34If you if you just come clean about the fact that you smoked pot in college, you'll probably pass.
01:41But you have to come clean about this. And he said, I'm going to give you some time to think things over.
01:46And he left the room and I assumed that they were looking at me through this like thick planed glass.
01:55And I was like, oh, my gosh. So I was so tired, so exhausted at this point, so mentally just done.
02:04And I started to think to myself, oh, gosh, I lied to them and tell them that I did drugs at one point just so they stop questioning me.
02:13And I knew I knew at this point that I was probably not going to get my clearance unless I basically lied and said that I did do drugs.
02:22And then I came to the realization, you know what? Maybe this is what they want me to do.
02:26They want they want to see how far I could be pushed in order to get my job at the CIA.
02:33Am I willing to compromise my integrity? Am I willing to compromise who I am?
02:39And, you know, whether or not I'm willing to lie or not to get this job at the CIA, that is what they wanted to know.
02:48And so I he came back into the room. I said, you know what? I'm sorry to have wasted your time.
02:54I really never did drugs. I you know, I'm thank you for this opportunity.
02:59I said, OK, well, you failed. I was like, oh, shit, you know.
03:04And then two weeks later, I got a piece of paper in the mail that said, congratulations,
03:11you have secured your top secret SEI lifestyle polygraph clearance.
03:15I have to say without a doubt, it's just the focus of mission.
03:20So we've all really felt like we're working toward one goal.
03:25And that felt really good every day to just have that focus of mission that we were a part of something that was,
03:32you know, protecting the United States or protecting the homeland against terrorists.
03:36And it felt really good to be a part of that mission.
03:40So I would say, you know, just in terms of like when you're going throughout your day
03:45and I feel like maybe some of the military folks listening to this can maybe understand what I'm talking about is like you just you're
03:54you're so focused on the mission before you that a lot of other things in life kind of fade away
04:00and you're able to, you know, really feel some purpose and that what you're doing really matters.
04:08So one instance that I can really think about, I was an active participant in what we call a high threat meeting
04:15where we didn't know if the source is going to show up with basically a bomb strapped to him
04:20or he really was willing to provide us with good information.
04:25So we did a thorough pat down of this person before we met with him.
04:31Of course, our security team was the one who did that and in coordination with working with our foreign intelligence partners.
04:39But, you know, I had a lot of work to do in terms of building my report,
04:44the source, because when I initially walked into the room, you know, blonde hair, green eyes,
04:49like there's no doubt in the source's mind that I am an American.
04:55So he refused to meet me in the eye.
04:58So that was to be expected. This was my first meeting with a terrorist,
05:03but I acted like it was my hundredth and made sure that,
05:08you know, I really established that I knew everything there was to know about him.
05:13I think establishing yourself as the authority in the room is one of the ways,
05:18the best ways that you can use to basically get that individual to trust you
05:26and to understand that they need to provide you with the utmost information.
05:31So whenever you ask a question, you have to pay attention
05:35what that person does within the first five seconds after you ask that question.
05:41What do they do? What are some of their physical cues?
05:44Do they, you know, fiddle with their hands? Are they fidgeting?
05:49Are they failing to make eye contact with you?
05:53That could be an indication that they're not telling you the truth.
05:58Another thing, are they being evasive?
06:00Are they talking to you, but they're not answering your question?
06:04Aggression. Aggression is another thing that you could look at as a key indicator that someone's lying to you.
06:10They say things like, hey, why do you think it's me?
06:15What did I ever do to you?
06:16Like that aggression could be an indication that someone is lying to you.
06:22So the physical cues within the first five seconds after you ask the question, aggression and evasiveness.