• 5 months ago
During a House Education Committee hearing Tuesday, Rep. Donald Norcross (D-NJ) made a comment about Rep. Bob Good (R-VA) losing in his district's primary election last month.

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00:00Thank you.
00:01We'll now recognize Mr. Norcross from New Jersey for five minutes.
00:06Thank you.
00:07I want to start out by saying we live in the greatest country in the world.
00:12We live in a democracy which we have elections, whether they're for members of Congress or
00:18for their representatives as their union voices, but I do want to take a moment of personal
00:25privilege to thank the chairman.
00:29He and I agree on little, if anything, but I do want to thank him for his public service
00:36and wish him well in any future endeavors that are coming out.
00:40We need more public servants, but we appreciate what you've done and wish you well.
00:47Start out by saying we're in due process.
00:49I heard stories.
00:52What is going on in this country with anti-Semitism is horrific in any form.
00:57We heard in many of our hearings what is going on in college campuses, and I couldn't
01:02agree more, but we live in a country that's a democracy, and unfortunately, many of those
01:09views are something that I personally disagree with, as many of us, but in this country,
01:17and to quote our friend from the Institute, Mr. Tambom, we did not choose and we do not
01:26want many of our elected officials.
01:28Some might even be in this room, and we are forced to fund them, whether it's a union
01:35or our government, but the idea or suggestion that because of a few bad actors, which we
01:43make no excuses for, are being anti-Semitic and smearing the entire representatives of
01:50workers, I think, is no different calling unions anti-Semites.
01:55You could call Republicans racists.
01:57You could call Democrats socialists, but it doesn't make it true, but if we look back
02:03in our history, we certainly did have racists that served in this house, but the idea that
02:11somehow this is breaking out, I'm sorry, did you say something?
02:17You looking to yield time for me, Chairman?
02:20You finished with your time?
02:21No, you were talking.
02:22Then proceed.
02:23I thought you were wanting me to yield some time.
02:24I thought maybe you were talking about the Southern Democrats and the KKK.
02:27I claimed back my time.
02:28I thought that's what you were talking about.
02:29Thank you.
02:30You're done in more than one way.
02:32So the idea of what we're doing each and every day is how democracies work, so my question
02:38goes back to whether they have votes on authorizing strikes, ratifying contracts, union leadership,
02:44the votes that go on each and every day.
02:47This is not a top-down.
02:48This is a bottom-up.
02:49This is something that we believe in in our nation and certainly in the unions.
02:53Dr. LoFalzo, can you talk to us a little bit more detail of what you started to talk about,
02:59where those rights of a union member, when it comes to dues, when it comes to the votes
03:04on where that union comes together, but at the end of the day, they have a vote, whether
03:09they agree with it or they don't, just like we do in this country when we have votes.
03:15Could you expand on some of those issues, particularly right-to-work states versus non-right-to-work
03:21states?
03:22So first of all, no worker can be compelled to join a union in any state.
03:32In right-to-work states, they also cannot be compelled to pay their dues.
03:39I think that we agree on that.
03:43In non-right-to-work states or fair share states, the only thing that union-represented
03:51employees have to pay are their agency fees, which is, as Mr. Taubman pointed out, they
03:58are reduced fees because the Supreme Court has stated very clearly that unions cannot
04:05force anyone to pay for their political activities or non-representative activities.
04:12So there is a big difference in right-to-work states and not-right-to-work states.
04:18Also, with respect to a national right-to-work law, there already is a solution for that
04:26too, which is to lobby.
04:29States can do that.
04:30Every state can do that if they want, and it would have the same effect.
04:35West Virginia was one of the most democratic states until recently.
04:39It was not right-to-work, and now it is recently right-to-work.
04:42Sorry.
04:43No.
04:44We understand.
04:45So the idea that they do have a choice, they are represented by agency fees, we understand
04:57all that, but the idea of having a hearing, one of only maybe a dozen a year, making this
05:04your highest priority, I have yet to have, and I live in a very Jewish area, one person
05:10come up to me and talk to me about unions being anti-Semitic.
05:15But this goes to the case of what we are dealing here.
05:19Thank you for giving me those additional ten seconds, Mr. Chairman.
05:23I really appreciate it.
05:24You have a good day.
05:25We will now recognize Mr. Walden from Michigan again for five minutes.
05:27Thank you.

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