Does Bill want to catch Shula? Do you want him to return to coach?
Does Bill want to catch Shula? Do you want him to return to coach? Coco and Curtis disagree as they debate!
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00:00Courtney you're right. There is a chance that that you may be right that this is a lifestyle. He enjoys
00:04It's not what he would have chosen Wiggs as you point out four months ago. He would have stayed coaching
00:09Here is why I just will never believe he's done. Mm-hmm
00:14he
00:15Has a deep understanding maybe nobody that has ever lived as a better a historical understanding of their place in the history of the NFL
00:22He is as in tune with NFL films. He knows everything about it. He remembers
00:29Don Shula on Monday Night Football
00:31Cheering against the Patriots in 07 trying to protect his perfect Dolphins season. I believe he wants to surpass Shula all of that
00:40Now for the Patriots, so I don't believe he's done but Courtney you may be right
00:44He may like you may be right. I who knows but I believe this year
00:49Bill not coaching is the worst possible outcome for Robert Kraft and Gerard Mayo
00:56Because if Bill went to the Falcons right that was what we all thought was gonna happen
01:00The Falcons are a pretty bad team. I mean maybe somewhat more talented than the Patriots but mediocre at best
01:06Mm-hmm. So while the Patriots might lose
01:0927 to 13 week one to the Bengals
01:12Maybe Bill and the Falcons lose 35 21 and so you're not comparing Mayo against the brilliance of Bill
01:20You're seeing well Bill still he's totally lost his fastball. He couldn't do it without Tom. That's just the
01:26continuation of that now
01:28Bill's perfect. He gets to do what he's always been brilliant at but he's always done it in front of his players
01:34Not the media break down other people's mistakes on film
01:39so he's gonna be doing that on Pat McAfee while the Patriots with
01:44Jacoby Brissett and Scott van Pelt's brother are
01:47stumbling down the field
01:49We're only gonna remember the good times of Bill and we're gonna see in real time in living color
01:55Bill break down the mistakes the Patriots and other teams make so while it's sucks for Robert to have to pay the money
02:03Obviously it doubly sucks that you're not seeing Bill fail. Mm-hmm
02:07So do you think Bill's gonna hold himself back from criticizing players and coaching staffs and other franchises?
02:14No, I I think that he's gonna know I think that he's just gonna break down
02:17I mean, maybe he will certain teams. I don't know
02:19But in general the what you're going to see from Bill Belichick
02:23Like I think Bill cowers remembered now more fondly than when he coached because he's on NFL today people just like him
02:29He's a sort of you know, look at that job
02:31Whatever like you don't remember that he sucked and lost a lot of games that his team was favored into the Patriots
02:36Bill Belichick is going to see his stock rise without coaching a game and the Patriot fan that's watching their team
02:44Will be even more angry at Robert Kraft because they'll be seeing Bill
02:49without a loss
02:50Perfect in the booth as opposed to what they remember the last thing and you know
02:55the other reason why I believe he comes back Courtney is because just like Bill Cowern and all these other coaches who get into
03:02The TV element and I think he's gonna be more of the X's and O's not really criticizing people like that's not what he's gonna
03:08Do it's gonna be X's and O's
03:10Where teams lost breaking down coverages like all that kind of stuff that we've seen bill do
03:17The reason if you look at all those other coaches
03:20What happens every single year whether it's Bill cow, whether it was Rex Ryan
03:26Some of these coaches that are on TV every year. There's always a handful of
03:33organizations trying to sway these guys to come out of
03:38Retirement and out of the the
03:41Analyst TV booth world right to come coach Bill
03:44Cowan has been they've been beating down his door for so long whether it was the Carolina Panthers at one point
03:51Rex Ryan the same thing. So what you're gonna get from Bill when Bill's talking X's. Oh, why don't they do it?
03:57They will after this year like when Bill goes here. No, but why why why isn't Bill Cowern doing it because down his door?
04:04He chose that he he had liked his life
04:07And he and that's what I'm saying is that that happens, right?
04:10But I also don't think if you gave Bill Cowern Bill Belichick's resume and you compared apples to apples
04:17I don't think he stays in the booth
04:19In other words if Bill Cowern were 13, what is it?
04:21How many wins away is Bill 13 something like that?
04:23I'm sure if he was 13 wins away from being the all-time winningest coach in the history of the sport
04:28My guess is cower accepts one of those phone call and the difference between Bill Kyle and Rex Ryan and those other guys
04:35They're content
04:37with not coaching
04:39Right, they will like coaching but they weren't like they all none of us really know if Bill's no
04:45but they weren't the lifers when it came to like
04:48They weren't the lifers of coach with coaches when you saw those guys you were like, oh they like coaching but they ain't like
04:56That's what Bill does like like Bill Belichick will go now
05:01Where was he down in Alabama?
05:03I thought I saw him and Matt Patricia down at Alabama talking to like so Patricia loves Waffle House
05:10Like that's what Bill will still do like so bill
05:14That's what he loves where I don't know if
05:16Bill collar or Frex Ryan or some of these other guys have that same type of passion when it comes to coaching
05:22Like build us so they got no problem with staying in the TV boots where I think what's gonna happen with Bill as soon
05:29As he's gone. Hey, I would have done this differently if I was coaching
05:33You know the Cincinnati Bengals versus the Baltimore Ravens is in a game then you're gonna get an owner from whether it's Dallas
05:41Philly
05:42Buffalo one of those teams going
05:44hey, we need to get on the phone and see if we can get bill to come back coaching when the season's over because
05:52We know what's in his brain when it comes to football and coaching so that's why I think he's gonna get a lot of calls
05:57Let's say right now if you were to predict
05:59Do you think it will take a full season or do you think halfway through the season?
06:03Bill will get a call and bill will be the head coach. No full season full season
06:07Yeah, you don't see coaches really coming in in the middle of the season. Sometimes you do right? I would say well
06:13Who was a boomers best friend in the beginning of last right?
06:17Right, but he was on the staff. He wasn't hired outside
06:20Well, I mean whether on this I think Bill Belichick you can like you've never seen a coach
06:26Mid-season who was sitting on the sidelines just come in it like, okay, so you're both saying after the season. Yeah, Jackson
06:32What's your prediction? I?
06:34Do think he'll come back and didn't just Saturday slide in in the middle of the season
06:39That's right. Yeah, yeah, just Saturday. I think he came in like week 10
06:44Do you think it'll take a full season or do you think I think I'll take a full season
06:47but I think he's back and back at it hard because I really does I I
06:52think
06:53the Shula things big in his mind, but I think
06:57Trying to be successful without Tom Brady post Tom Brady. Is it on his mind as well?
07:03I would say there's never been someone who was brought in midseason who was hired for more than the midseason
07:09So you you know, maybe a interim coach wins the job
07:12But never has it been a guy that hasn't been coaching anybody on that team for the long term to bring it as a replacement
07:19I'm curious. Do you want that's the poll. I just did a poll mid show mid segment wild stuff here
07:25We're all over the place
07:26Do you want Bill Belichick to come back and coach another team or do you want him?
07:31To have just a Patriot for the last obviously was with Cleveland, but what we saw in
07:372023 was the last year. I feel like he's like Brady when he's in the league
07:41The league is just more entertaining and it's just you know
07:44It's just another adds another story line
07:47and then the other thing why I think he comes back is do you think he wants to end this career on
07:52four and two and how it kind of fell apart 13 of four and 13 and how it fell apart and then the
07:57Dynasty, I think he's similar to Brady where he doesn't want to end this career like that
08:02Not that he's gonna win another Super Bowl
08:04But I think he wants to like say all right
08:06I'm gonna give it one more go at it and see if I can get another one obviously if I see if I can get
08:12Shuler's record and go out on
08:15My terms because it seems like he didn't go out on his terms based off of what we all know now where he was like
08:21Hey, I still wanted to coach and guess what? I'm willing to give up some power
08:28To still be coaching. Remember he told us that he's like I got no problem with that
08:33Yeah, I want him to coach I want to see him I don't think you'll be successful and it'll be great
08:37I'll have another team to root against but I you don't think if he goes to like Dallas or Buffalo or
08:42Philly he won't be successful Dallas or Buffalo or Philly. Um, I mean successful as in winning a championship. No, I
08:52So much of what he did was predicated upon a person ie Tom
08:59Spreading his messaging for today's player if you want me to say like in
09:042007 or 5 if he was hired and Dungy was fired by the Colts
09:08He wouldn't want a Super Bowl with Peyton Manning when it's just the players are just so different now
09:13Yeah
09:13but you don't think a guy like Josh Allen would buy into the message that Bill's trying to spread and Josh could then
09:19Spread that message into that locker. What what has Bill showed you that he'd want to coach a team with a 40 million dollar quarterback
09:26Well, he's never had that opportunity because he had no say in the off and who they were paying no, no
09:31But your quarterback didn't want 40 million. Okay, right? I'm saying in the
09:37Post-tom era his answer was Cam Newton, right?
09:40And then he was either agreed to or forced Mac Jones, right at no point
09:45Has he ever been someone who appeared desirous of spending at the top of the market at the quarterback or really any position outside of?
09:52Well, see I kind of disagree because there was a part of me that believed he would have went after Lamar Jackson
09:59Well, yeah, that was a 32. Oh, you mean as a free agent?
10:02Yeah
10:02When Lamar remember that whole Lamar but don't you want to have this so that we can see it like I want to see him
10:07Run a team. Mm-hmm so that we can see what was Robert? What was bill?
10:11We can have him we'll be able to see what they a blank slate how he decides to build
10:15All right. Let me ask a different question to the room then
10:17Do you believe it a team like Buffalo and and I bring these teams up because they're good teams and
10:25It's I think it's really about do they feel like they have the right coaches in place you team like a Buffalo
10:31Philly or Dallas those are the ones that we always talk about
10:34What about the Giants?
10:37That's always see but I always but then I I get into the quarterback situation there
10:41But you throw a team up, but do you feel like those teams would come after bill?
10:45If they didn't make it if they got one and done or they were, you know out of the playoffs early
10:50I think bill being on TV will further incentivize these
10:56Organizations to do something they may not have done before because the fan base will be demanding it. We all see bills flaws
11:02I I may be blinded by them but in in the national conversation of the NFL
11:08the Dallas
11:09Market Mike McCarthy is two and five to start the year is going to not just say I want him gone
11:16We need to be the first in line to be to sign Belichick long-term and you think Belichick would want to be with Jerry Jones
11:23I think he views that as a double win. He'll get paid and the crafts despise them
11:29So he'll be able to work for a team that is the anti craft and then in Dallas
11:34I mean, I think he's pretty no state income tax. I think that would be very pro
11:39Bill Belichick, I don't know and I can see teams like Washington not want to go after him because
11:44Like, you know, you're not gonna be good
11:46Yeah
11:47I just think that there's such a boys club when it comes to ownership and I'm guessing that if craft talked to the Falcons
11:52He's probably talked to other franchises or there's word out about what bill might be like behind the scenes as your head coach
11:58And it's gonna take a really strong owner to want to bring bill Belichick in
12:03Because even if bill says he doesn't care about having the power over everything
12:07I think that that's just he's just saying that I think go ahead. I I just think that he wants that power still
12:14It's bill Belichick. He knows he's bill Belichick
12:16He knows that he is the greatest coach of all time him going into a franchise
12:20An owner is gonna have to really take a backseat to him
12:23And I think his opportunities will be
12:25Dependent upon how flexible he is with his staff because if I'm Jerry Jones and I'm offering you 30 million over four years
12:32That will take you to almost 80. Mm-hmm
12:34You're not getting to pick Matt Patricia as your offensive coordinator, you know, he's going after Josh and I think
12:40Well, Josh has a crappy reputation across the NFL right? But Jerry Joe Jerry Jones will go
12:45Okay, I got cuz Josh is a good offensive coordinator
12:49Right. We can agree that Josh is a pretty good officer a coordinator and I think Jerry would go
12:53Okay, I'm cool with that. And also I look at and what about his son Steven in the roster?
12:59How would bill I think Steven is probably good in
13:04Washington with jetfish. I think Steven is now flying on his own Steven Jones the son of
13:12Sorry that that is that's in charge of the roster with Jerry
13:15I think that bill
13:16Would be willing and I I think that he was true and honest about it to be willing to sit down and say hey listen
13:23I can be
13:24Collaborative with you guys and I don't think I don't think bill has an issue with that and the other thing
13:29I think when you ask the question Courtney
13:31I think owners that know they have a realistic chance of winning might look at bill and say
13:38He could be the reason why we win. He's our best shot. Yeah, you might not get like a Washington
13:45Commanders or Carolina or some of those other teams that were available, but if you get a team like Dallas
13:52That might be like where the coach could turn this thing or
13:59Like I say Philly, New York is a that could be a wild card because then I think it's really how does bill feel about?
14:06The quarterback there. Well, we have a pull-up at the Greg Hill show on Twitter
14:11Do you want Belichick to return to coaching only 57% say yes, that seems low to me
14:17I figured more people would want to see him