Did Belichick take a shot at Mayo on the 'ManningCast'?
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00:00Uh, Bill Belichick, Manning cast last night, uh, a little shot, I guess, uh, Gerard Mayo
00:08and the New England Patriots. Let's listen to that. It's a good chance for a halftime swing.
00:12I think we saw several games this weekend where, you know, that was really a factor. Certainly the,
00:16the New England since, uh, Seattle game where, uh, you know, Seattle scored right before the
00:21half, ultimately took it into overtime. Like that was a big three points they picked up there.
00:25Uh, you know, with some, you know, let's say questionable clock management, but,
00:29you know, this is a good opportunity for Atlanta to come back and take the lead in the third
00:33quarter. Well, there you go. He's talking about New England. There you go. We were wondering if
00:37he was, it was a little questionable clock management, you know, I didn't hear you ask
00:42Duran about that. You know, I forgot about it too. I forgot about it completely. So,
00:48but I don't, you know, I ain't got no issues with it. No, I don't either. I, I agree with
00:54Curtis. I, I don't, if they had a petty score on Madden, he'd be 99. I am not, uh, as hate-filled
01:01as Curtis is. I have never been happier. I don't hate anything. I love it. But you take a daily
01:07shot at bill. Um, but I do think I just speak the truth. Well, no, I'm just reflecting the text
01:14messages. They are, they are, uh, they, some, there are some who say, why is Curtis so full
01:20of anger about bill Belichick? I don't know. I thought he was on bill's side. I see that text.
01:27Uh, it looks like it's a Rhode Island text where we will be, which, oh, now it's got to, it
01:32disappeared. But basically, uh, Curtis is so hate-filled when, when it comes to bill Belichick
01:38and that the texter doesn't know why. I mean, bill hates your team. I mean, you should probably be
01:42mad at him. He hates the Patriots right now. Wouldn't you though? Like, I think a lot of fans,
01:45despite being Patriots fans understand why he hates, uh, you know, the way in which he went
01:51out coaching staff of an NFL team. I probably wouldn't publicly rip them, but, but they took
01:57the first shot like after dynasty. I wouldn't, I wouldn't judge anybody for having those feelings.
02:04You can't judge your dad's you can't hold the sun kind of in contempt because of the dad's feeling,
02:11you know, Brian Belichick being on the staff. I mean, his dad is a grown man saying what he wants
02:17to say. So I don't really think it reflects in any way on Brian Belichick. I think Gerard Mayo's
02:21success would be beneficial to bill Belichick. I mean, the, the coaching tree could use a,
02:28um, a fruitful, uh, sprouting, if you know what I mean, there's not been anybody that's left him.
02:34That's had success. It would be good if Gerard Mayo found success, I think. Yeah. But Curtis,
02:38if you had a boss whose whole MO right now is trying to get into the hall of fame and, and you
02:44know, that he put out a documentary, a full 10 part doc series about in trash you for 10, 10 episodes.
02:52Wouldn't you probably shy away from ever talking about that boss? Oh yeah. I don't think he should
02:57have to, Hey, I don't think he should be complimentary of Robert Kraft and I don't
03:00think he has to be. And if anything, they drag him more than he drags them. I mean,
03:04think about like Mayo, all the shots mail took, you know, uh, you know, at bill and,
03:11uh, well, he hasn't called me, you know, letting us know some of these things, you know, so it's
03:16kind of like, and I, you know, I had thought like David Anderson, I, it was just last week,
03:21I think, where he shared the, uh, the magic of, uh, Gerard Mayo coming in and David Andrews,
03:28David, what'd I say? Anderson, David Andrews on his podcast talked about the, uh, bill coming in
03:35and explaining to them the difference between a leader and a boss, right? Yeah. And they,
03:41they've taken more shots at bill now that he's gone, then he's taken at them. So if anything,
03:48I wouldn't see, you know, I don't, what were the Gerard Mayo shots that he's taken at bill?
03:52Um, there were when Mayo said, when he made it apparent that he didn't talk to bill,
04:00no, he didn't. I think we read into that a little bit too much. He just said he wasn't going to
04:05get into that, go get into that. No, no. I'm talking about, uh, originally when he first
04:10kind of got the job and everything, he made it up. Like he made it apparent, like, oh, we're
04:14going to do things different. I didn't, I haven't talked to bill. Bill didn't call me, you know,
04:19those types of things. Like, so he made it seem like it was like, and then they're all like,
04:23they're not like big shots, but it's like throwing lightweight shade. You know how that goes.
04:26I would say Elliot Wolf definitely took a shot at bill with the vibes at the combine talking about
04:33changing things about, I don't think Gerard Mayo goes, oh, we're going to do things different
04:36around here. And like, you know, it's just, it's a little bit of shade. It's not, I don't want to,
04:40maybe shots is the wrong word, but you could see a little bit. I would love bill Belichick to be
04:45back on the sideline, coaching the Eagles. It would be great for business. I think he would do
04:49a far better job than Nick Sirianni. And I think they would be a championship contender. I don't
04:54think Bill's flame out in a minute. So I'm trying to be complimentary and it gets quickly. Yeah.
05:02Why is that shot? Uh, because bill Belichick is not what the Eagles need.
05:07The Eagles, the Eagles need somebody who can take control of that offense and
05:10yeah, but he'll hire, he'll hire an offense court. And what was he going to bring in Josh
05:13McDaniels? Josh McDaniels is a pretty good offense court. Good for him. Cam Newton that
05:18worked out. Do you have an issue with Josh McDaniels? No, he just, he just has that coordinator.
05:22No, his coordinating style does not suit what Jalen Hurts does. That's all very different,
05:28very different philosophies. That's all he would adapt though. He would then, Hey, I think that
05:33would, you know, Josh would just have to adapt to a Jalen Hurts type of, of style of, uh, of player.
05:41I mean, I think Josh would be able to do that. I don't know. They don't, they weren't big on
05:45adapting the playbook. The playbook was generally always the playbook in new England for what was
05:49it? 25 years. Well, and I would say Greg specifically to the, you know, the way this
05:54conversation started about the run game, pass game, what you need, this team, not, you know,
05:58the clock management, I'm, I'm sure that there is going to be some on the job learning for Gerard
06:02Mayo. He didn't handle the end of the first half perfectly, but what bothers me and what I try to
06:07fight back against, which is the onslaught of oncoming traffic that doesn't understand that
06:12there were mistakes made. The team was really bad in close games the last couple of years when Bill
06:17was the coach. And a lot of that is Mack Jones. A lot of that is, you know, we can go up and down
06:21the list. It's not, I'm not saying Bill made bad decisions every time, but the team lost several
06:27games that they should have been able to win. And the biggest one for me is the Packers game a
06:32couple of years ago where Bailey Zappi comes in, you get to overtime, you get the ball at the 45
06:37yard line of the Green Bay Packers. And instead of going for it on fourth and two or three,
06:42you punt to Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers takes the Packers down the field and wins the game.
06:46There were a lot of games like that. So yes, while I think Gerard Mayo was not great,
06:51I don't understand the pass on third and five, when you're trying to go up by six at the end
06:56of the fourth quarter. But I, to say that absolutely they win that game last year would
07:02be to ignore the results of the last couple of years. Yeah. I mean, I think that we can argue it
07:08till the end of time when it comes to the last, whatever period of time you want to look at with
07:14Bill last four years or whatever. And whether it was Bill who determined who was on the roster here,
07:22whether they were last in spending because the owner wanted them to be last in spending.
07:27I don't know. I just think that the, there were, there were, there are clear periods of time in
07:34which Bill Belichick was able to help you win football games. And I don't know that you're
07:39going to get that same thing from Gerard Mayo for a period of time. I think you already got
07:44that in week one. The defense was the reason why you were able to win that football game.
07:49And that's very similar to what we would have said about Bill Belichick,
07:53their ability to come up with a great game plan to slow down a good offense in Cincinnati,
07:59because that's what we used to say about Bill, Bill. Okay. But you just heard Ty lie. You didn't
08:03get that in, in week two. Well, in week two, quite the contract and tie and tie didn't realize it,
08:09but there was, you know, one of the nerds who talked about when Christian Gonzalez, he was on
08:16DK Metcalf and he only held them to 24 yards on three catches. So the, the touchdown you gave up
08:23and Mayo said it, that was on us. Clearly there was a miscommunication on whatever coverage was
08:30called because it was a blown coverage where you let DK Metcalf run down the field. But I think
08:35defensively overall, when you look at that game, you were able to hold Seattle to what?
08:4520 points through four quarters. Yeah. I mean, Ty would disagree with you. He spent most of the
08:51morning talking about how bad the defense was, right. Because he was looking at two guys who
08:56had over a hundred yards and I could see where he's coming from in that aspect. I mean, Gino
09:01threw for 327 yards. Yeah. I could see where he's coming from. Like you, you completely stopped
09:06their running game completely. They could not do anything in the running game. They were averaging
09:11less than three yards to carry. And, but Gino diced your ass up. Gino Smith came in and won
09:17them that football game. And Greg, we played it earlier and it's going to be an issue. The more
09:22they lose, if they lose a lot this year where you're not going to hear pop Douglas say what
09:26he said yesterday, following a win. Does that make sense? Yes. So you lose instead of winning
09:32to go to two and Oh, and now all of a sudden you already hear a public complaint about their role
09:39in the game. Would you have heard that from a young wide receiver like pop Douglas week two,
09:44if Bill were the head of porn? Yeah, no, no, no. Cause even Kendrick born didn't really like week
09:5010 and he, he didn't really say much around. They played week one and Bob craft was already
09:57talking to Tom Curran about Kendrick Bourne's role in the office. Kendrick Bourne didn't really say
10:01it. It was more about Tommy current report and that Kendrick Bourne is upset. What was the
10:07Thursday night game against the bills? That wasn't week 15. There was, I mean, I don't know. I could
10:11go back and find them, but yes, the modern athlete does speak out more now that you'll get more of
10:17that this year. If things go bad, then you would have got, then you got last year when things were
10:24bad, you'll get more guys who will be saying things when a microphone is in their face versus
10:30last year, they weren't really saying anything, you know? And I think it's part of, you know,
10:37cause they see their head coach who says things and then they feel like, okay, you know, I can
10:42too. Go down that road. Can't that get people in trouble though? Yeah. Oh, that's, that's,
10:47that's always the thing that you, you know, that's the give and take about having a coach.
10:50That's speaks freely versus a coach who doesn't say anything is that the players, you know,
10:55we'll look at the coach and go, okay. But do we think that Andy Reed all of a sudden became a
11:00genius? No, he got my homes. Like it's sad that that's all it is now in sports. But if you have
11:07Patrick Mahomes, but he's always had good quarterbacks, good offenses, period. He's
11:12always had good quarterbacks. He's always had other than Alex Smith, that one or two years,
11:18he's always had top, top 10, top seven quarterback. And look at the, the amount of
11:24distractions they have in that locker room. Every year, every week, there's a new story
11:29off the field. Well, when you have, when you have a top 10 quarterback, you can get by with
11:34all this stuff off the field. The defense risks sometimes hasn't happened yet with Josh Allen.
11:40Well, that's because he's playing Mahomes. Yeah. The only, literally the only guy he loses to his
11:44mouth. Yeah. And you think about Buffalo Buffalo is always going to be competitive right in it.
11:49When I say you have having a quarterback like that, you might not win a super bowl,
11:54but you're always going to be a contender. I'm just saying that getting a great quarterback
11:58doesn't automatically mean you win a super bowl, but it puts you in the conversation.
12:02Yeah. You can at least get there. Right. So if you have the best quarterback, it does.
12:06Well, even if you have a, even if you have a top 10 quarterback, a top seven quarterback, it does
12:11Lamar Jackson, you might not have won a super bowl and you're right in the mix. Find me a team
12:19other than the San Francisco 49ers who, who don't have a top 10. I mean,
12:25Andy was a good coach before Patrick Mahomes though. Yeah. A hundred percent. He was,
12:29he was a good coach. He got Donovan McNabb to a super bowl. But Donovan McNabb was a top five,
12:34top seven quarterback. Yeah. When he played in his era, McNabb was considered a top eight
12:40quarterback. I'm saying, find me a team that is able to do it where their quarterback.
12:47And when I say able to do it, be a legit contender when their quarterback's not top 10,
12:53I'll give you top 10. Yeah. Just can't do it.