Kiya JUIF New Election kay Mutalbay say Peeche Hatne ko tayyar? Kamran Murtaza's Give Inside News
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Kiya JUIF New Election kay Mutalbay say Peeche Hatne ko tayyar? Kamran Murtaza's Give Inside News
Kiya JUIF New Election kay Mutalbay say Peeche Hatne ko tayyar? Kamran Murtaza's Give Inside News
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00:00We have Mr. Kamran Murtaza with us. He has done a very important meeting and now he is free.
00:04Mr. Kamran Murtaza, the head of JUI, thank you very much for joining us.
00:09Mr. Kamran, what has been decided? How will you proceed with PTI?
00:13How will you take matters forward?
00:16Will you join the protest that was announced on 26th, Friday by the entire movement?
00:25Mr. Kamran?
00:27As of now, we have to talk about it.
00:29Once we have reached an agreement, then it will be decided how far we will go together.
00:38The Maulana has given us some guidelines.
00:41We will contact the committee on the other side.
00:46They will contact us and we will contact them.
00:49After that, we will sit with each other.
00:51They will find ways to get closer to us.
00:54They will tell you as much as they can.
00:57But this is not over yet.
01:00Mr. Kamran, at this time, the Maulana's statement that PTI is ready to resign,
01:05Mr. Asad Kesar is saying that it has been presented with a lot of fuss.
01:08PTI is refusing.
01:10It is not a matter of resignation.
01:12Mr. Panchota is saying that when there will be new elections,
01:15all the assemblies will be broken.
01:17So, this is basically what was said by Maulana.
01:19Can you clarify what was said by Maulana?
01:23Was Maulana promised a resignation?
01:27Does Maulana have any concern that PTI is refusing?
01:33We don't want to spoil the atmosphere.
01:36We want to move forward.
01:37We want to move forward together with them.
01:40Either they want to move forward with us or we want to move forward with them.
01:44We don't want to create any confusion.
01:46Anyway, I don't think Maulana's statement can be taken from his side.
01:53This is my personal opinion.
01:55We said one thing, Maulana said another,
01:59there was a change from there,
02:01or he said that maybe there was a mistake in understanding.
02:04But the second thing is,
02:06is it possible that this demand for a new election
02:10is possible without leaving the assemblies or without evaluating them?
02:17So, our demand is that we want to move towards a new election.
02:22If they don't want to go, then it's their own decision.
02:26But what we understood or what we were told,
02:29is basically the same thing.
02:31Mr. Kamran, you said that some guidelines have come from Maulana.
02:35Obviously, those guidelines are very important at this point.
02:39Will there be TORs?
02:41Will there be a PTI discussion on the basis of which guidelines?
02:44No, we will decide the TORs among ourselves.
02:48Both parties will decide it together.
02:51What will happen from your side?
02:53Yes, we will keep some things from our side.
02:58There will be some talks from their side about us.
03:01They will keep it in front of us.
03:03Then the talks from both sides will come.
03:05If something comes in writing, then we will follow our habits.
03:10I completely understand that Mr. Kamran.
03:12Some will come from their side, some from your side,
03:14and then some will come in the middle ground.
03:16But to begin with, what will be the demands of JUI?
03:19The demands will be different.
03:21First of all, we and they want to finish their calculations of the past.
03:26And want to move forward.
03:28And in front of us is the country, the nation, and the constitution.
03:32We don't want to be a victim of elections.
03:35We will move forward with these things.
03:38And at what point, if the PTI says that we will protest,
03:42we will not resign,
03:44will that be seen as a deal breaker, Mr. Kamran?
03:48No, we are not moving forward to break the deal.
03:52If they had taken these matters to break the deal,
03:56then the matter would have ended today or tomorrow.
03:59If they had said something, then we would have got an answer.
04:02We don't want to break the deal.
04:05We want to leave it.
04:07When will the next meeting be, Mr. Kamran?
04:10I have taken the instructions from Mr. Kamran.
04:14Mr. Kamran is going to Mumbai.
04:16If we want to move forward,
04:18we and the committee from the PTI will meet.
04:22Meanwhile, Mr. Kamran will also come back.
04:25He will also give his instructions.
04:27We will have a formal meeting.
04:30We will understand each other.
04:36Mr. Kamran, you are heading that committee.
04:39Obviously, you understand the law very clearly.
04:43You are a very polished politician in politics.
04:47But what I want to understand is
04:50whether they have announced the protest on 26th
04:54before or after that.
04:56When will the meeting be?
04:58We have formed a committee.
05:01We will inform you about the meeting.
05:04Tomorrow, day after tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.
05:08They have announced the protest.
05:12We have not spoken to them about the protest.
05:17So, I don't think that announcement will be binding on us.
05:20Mr. Kamran, if we see today's take-away of the meeting,
05:25what will it be?
05:27This was our internal meeting.
05:29We have to take guidelines from our leadership.
05:35We have to decide to what extent we can go.
05:38What is our mandate?
05:40How far will we go?
05:42Who will we report the results?
05:46What will be the redline?
05:49Mr. Kamran?
05:50Pardon me, I did not understand.
05:52What will be the redline?
05:54You are asking how far we can go.
05:56We have not decided the redline yet.
05:58We have not decided the redline yet.
06:00We want to move forward with good intentions.
06:03We want to reduce the insults against each other in politics.
06:11Obviously, we are a separate party.
06:15We move forward according to our programs.
06:18But, we don't want to create a situation where we can't face each other.
06:24Got your point, Mr. Kamran.
06:26Mr. Panchoda, I will come to you.
06:28Mr. Maulana is a seasoned politician.
06:32He is an old politician.
06:34His words cannot be used to justify his actions.
06:39He has clarified it.
06:41I don't think there is a better clarification than this.
06:44Except that he says that you are lying.
06:46Or that you are taking a U-turn.
06:48You must have talked to Mr. Maulana about resignation.
06:51I have given him an answer.
06:54He has given you a clarification.
06:56That we cannot move forward without resignation.
06:59We have received a statement from Mr. Asad Qaisar and Mr. Gauhar.
07:04I don't think there is a reason to issue a new statement.
07:08But, whatever happens with them,
07:11our only aim is to do what Mr. Khan has asked us to do.
07:17Mr. Khan himself has given us permission to talk to them.
07:20So, what do you want?
07:22Do you want to meet them before the 26th or after that?
07:25It is not necessary to meet them before the 26th.
07:30You can meet them in the morning or in the evening.
07:33Mr. Maulana has a lot of street power.
07:35If Mr. Maulana gets street power in any movement,
07:38the government will be in trouble.
07:40For example, if Mr. Maulana stands with the PMLN or the People's Party,
07:47we will not see if he has street power or not.
07:49He is not even standing.
07:50He is standing with you.
07:51He is talking about the rule of law.
07:52So, our point, our position and our mission is one.
07:56So, we are on that point.
07:58And this was Mr. Khan's statement.
08:00The second thing is,
08:01I will say more about the various things that have been said.
08:03Look, the Chinese delegation has been mentioned.
08:05The Chinese delegation came and said that the security situation is bad here.
08:09So, the first thing is that they used the word stability.
08:12So, what was it about?
08:14It is about security and political stability.
08:17How can it come?
08:18It can come when the government is in accordance with the mandate of the people.
08:22When the government is in accordance with Form 47,
08:24then people run away.
08:26And when the courts call them to bring it,
08:28then they do not bring it.
08:29So, Mr. Khan also said the same thing yesterday.
08:31He said that since our Pakistan was formed,
08:33there has been only one class.
08:35But he is ready to talk to you.
08:37Instability will come here that he is not ready to talk and you are also ready to talk.
08:41Who?
08:42PMLN People's Party.
08:43They are ready to talk.
08:44Even Mr. Rana had said that the issues of Form 47 and Form 45 can also be solved by talking.
08:49No, no.
08:50You are ready to talk.
08:51He said that if we talk, then we will have to go home.
08:55They will be in the government.
08:56Definitely, we have Form 45.
08:58So, we will be in jail.
09:00Why will we be in jail?
09:01Because the way they have made memes in the app.
09:03They have finished their cases.
09:04The way they used the institutions.
09:06The way they used the institutions against us.
09:08For example, Tosha Khana Part 4 has started.
09:11And they are bringing the same approver,
09:13Eknam Shah, who was a witness in the previous case.
09:16He was a special person for Ahun Chaudhary.
09:20Ahun Chaudhary and Jahangir Tareen, because they were both one.
09:23Ahun Chaudhary went and gave a statement in the Eidat case.
09:25And now they are bringing him back here.
09:27You are making cases there.
09:29You are putting arrests there.
09:30You are abducting.
09:31And there is a ban on everything.
09:33If you say that there is no martial law,
09:35there is no martial law.
09:36Overall, if you look at the country, this is the situation.
09:38This is what I said about you that there is no martial law.
09:40And they don't know.
09:41They don't know what martial law is.
09:42They should tell us that they have abducted people.
09:43We have held a press conference.
09:44We have put people in the press club.
09:45Do you remember what happened with the journalists?
09:46Look, if a journalist has been abused anywhere,
09:49we will not say with whom.
09:50Not with one.
09:51With two.
09:52No.
09:53The Hajj that is happening.
09:54The way the election was held today.
09:55It was wrong then and it is still wrong.
09:56The abduction that is happening today.
09:57Look, Hamid Reza was abducted.
09:59He was told to change his loyalty.
10:01One of his sons was abducted.
10:04He was told to leave PTI and come here.
10:06In the same way, I have threatened him.
10:08Threats to our social media activists.
10:10Threats to our coordinators who are sitting here in the central office.
10:13The one who used to coordinate with you.
10:15He has been threatened.
10:16He has gone somewhere.