Kya Maulana Fazal-ur-Rehman, Fouji Adalaton Ke Qiyam Par Razi Hain? JUIF Rehnuma Ka Bara Dawa
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00:00If I ask Rashid Bhai, then I will ask Hamid sir that you have been told the benefits of the military court for two years, the benefits of the court of law for life.
00:09So what has been told to him that he is so sure that Maulana will go with him, that is, he will not vote for these things.
00:15Rashid, will you make this problem easy or what are your intentions?
00:18Ghaseem Bhai, first of all, thank you very much.
00:22Kashif Abbasi Sahib said that it is very difficult to understand a don and a Maulana.
00:28Before I come to my conversation, I would like to thank Sahebzada Hamid Raza Sahib very much.
00:34The way he used the words for Maulana Faklur Rahman Sahib here, he is worthy of praise.
00:42Me and my entire community look at his words with respect.
00:47You are not taking pleasure, are you? You are saying it from the heart.
00:50No, no, absolutely not. There is respect and respect for him.
00:53Let me tell you one thing, Ghaseem Bhai.
00:56I was with you on the live show that day, I was with you in the studio.
01:01If you can pick up that conversation of mine and show it to the community,
01:05I told you that day that there is no objection in the judicial reforms of the Jamiat Ulama Islam.
01:17The thing is that we have a clear stance that in the upcoming reforms,
01:24Maulana Sahib said that there will be no extension.
01:29Maulana Sahib said that there will be no increase in age.
01:33We have fulfilled these two things.
01:36Now, regarding the judicial reforms, Maulana Sahib was standing on the floor of the assembly that there should be judicial reforms.
01:44We want that there should be reforms in the court.
01:46But today I am adding one more thing.
01:49You keep it on your record.
01:51What is that?
01:52If there is anything in this constitutional amendment that contradicts the charter of human rights,
01:59which contradicts the constitution of Pakistan and the rights of the people,
02:04the Jamiat Ulama Islam will not support it.
02:08But we believe that there should be reforms in the courts.
02:13Please make it simpler for me, Rashid Bhai.
02:16Any amendment as a result of which, for a specific period of time, not forever,
02:20for example, a two-year military trial for civilians,
02:24because the situation is so bad,
02:26if it is made simple,
02:28then is this a demand for national security or a violation of human rights?
02:34I am surprised to hear this from Kashif Abbasi.
02:38He said that Maulana Fadlur Rahman supported the military courts.
02:43I am surprised myself. I was not at that meeting.
02:46I think Kashif sir is also surprised.
02:50But yesterday Asma Shirazi also said the same thing.
02:53This is not the case.
02:55Maybe it is difficult to understand.
02:57You were not there, Rashid sir. How can you say that?
02:59You were not there, Rashid Bhai.
03:01No, Kashif Bhai said that we are taking the result.
03:04Anyone can take the result.
03:06The real thing will happen.
03:08If he had said something, he would have taken the result, right, Rashid sir?
03:11One sentence from Wasim Bhai.
03:13Sir, sir, sir.
03:44Yes.
03:56Kashif sir, he is surprised.
03:58What are you attributing to his leader?
04:00He is saying that he is surprised to hear from Kashif sir.
04:02What is he saying?
04:04That Maulana sir spoke in favour of the military court.
04:06Rashid sir, on a latter note,
04:08Maulana sir has made such an amendment
04:10that you are even more surprised.
04:12You may not know as much as I know.
04:14Of course, I don't know.
04:16Of course, it is obvious.
04:18You are a hundred times more than me.
04:20Remember one thing.
04:22Maulana sir is probably the smartest politician
04:24in the political spectrum today.
04:26Right.
04:28No one will have any doubt in this.
04:30I have told you those exact sentences
04:32when he said that the two-year sunset glow.
04:34In fact, he also said that this is the first time.
04:36So I said to him,
04:38I said, no sir,
04:40the last time when the military court came,
04:42the sunset glow came at that time also.
04:46Repeat the sentence.
04:48What exactly did he say?
04:50He said that in this country,
04:52there are many missing persons
04:54and many people's cases do not go on.
04:56It would be good if there are courts,
04:58military courts.
05:00Their cases will go to some court.
05:02Otherwise, big problems are created from here.
05:04Missing persons happen, etc.
05:06Sir, you know this is not for them.
05:08This is for the 9th generation.
05:10Yes, yes.
05:12It was a very good answer.
05:14He did not say that yes,
05:16they will also be involved.
05:18He said that those who are involved in this
05:20should also be involved in the trial in the military court.
05:22So we got up after 2-2.5 hours of discussion.
05:24We did not discuss this while walking.
05:26And Mr. Somrao's point is absolutely right.
05:28Maulana sir said that
05:30according to me,
05:32the changes in Article 8 and 9
05:34which are of fundamental rights,
05:36the government has said that
05:38we have taken it back because of you.
05:40Mr. Bilawal has said it before.
05:42Yes, he has said it.
05:44So, the change in Article 8
05:46that you were talking about
05:48has already been announced by the government
05:50to take it back.
05:52I have told you about the legal court.
05:54Maulana sir says that the government says that
05:56and what Mr. Somrao is also saying
05:58in the reformation court.
06:00Now, in the name of reformation,
06:02the game will be in the name of reformation.
06:04What is reformation?
06:06Reformation means that
06:08you make a constitutional court
06:10and put a judge of your choice in it.
06:12You should stop the path of those judges
06:14about whom you are afraid
06:16that they are either on the other side
06:18or are against us
06:20or they are not controllable.
06:22Before I go to Mr. Hameed,
06:24did he tell any date
06:26that on the day of execution,
06:28we are busy in the party activity
06:30from our assembly to Amla etc.
06:32Did he say anything like this?
06:34No, no. He said that
06:36Jamiat is in the process of an election
06:38and because of that
06:40they cannot make any final announcement
06:42because all the offices
06:44are suspended.
06:46But this groundwork is being done
06:48for the next
06:50Majlis-e-Shura or whatever will come
06:52whatever their structure is
06:54the hierarchies of the party
06:56this groundwork is being done for them
06:58in which Mr. Farhan Murtaza
07:00and other constitutional judges
07:02will be shared.
07:04But Jamiat is in the process
07:06of an election.
07:08Noted, sir.
07:10Mr. Hameed Raza,
07:12today it has happened
07:14that Salman Raja
07:16and Kamran Murtaza
07:18will work on a constitutional judge
07:20and will try to reach a joint consensus.
07:22Is this right?
07:24First of all,
07:26I would like to thank
07:28you.
07:30In politics,
07:32such attitudes should be maintained.
07:34Secondly,
07:36Mr. Basim Badami,
07:38you make very detailed statements.
07:40I was in a meeting
07:42and when you are in a meeting
07:44many things are on oath
07:46that you have.
07:48I don't want to say
07:50but if you look at Benu Satoor
07:52then I think that after
07:54Mr. Rashid Somro's speech
07:56he would have said
07:58that what was Mr. Maulana's chance.
08:00Rashid sir finishes the Imam
08:02and Mr. Kashif is born.
08:04I am stuck between Kashif and Rashid.
08:06Mr. Hameed.
08:08No, no.
08:10Kashif is our brother.
08:14Masha Allah.
08:16May Allah save us from this day.
08:18Rashid Somro is supporting
08:20Mr. Hameed Raza.
08:22May Allah save us from this day.
08:26No, no.
08:28Kashif Abbasi is our brother.
08:30He is very kind.
08:32I would like to add one more thing.
08:34Mr. Maulana said
08:36that his party
08:38and when he reached
08:40his house
08:42his party's
08:44supporters of Shura and Amla
08:46were present there
08:48in large numbers.
08:50Mr. Maulana told us
08:52that on the permission of
08:54Amla and Shura
08:56and he also told us that
08:58when Lahore's Jalsa was held
09:00on 7th September
09:02immediately after the Jalsa
09:04he had put all these things
09:06in the meeting of Amla and Shura
09:08and on some things
09:10Amla and Shura
09:12had categorically cleared
09:14their position.
09:16He said that
09:18if I am not wrong
09:20on 29th
09:22he will take his proposal
09:24and approval from there
09:26and definitely Salman Akram Raza
09:28and Kamran Murza
09:30will sit there from tomorrow.
09:32We talked about judicial reforms.
09:34In judicial reforms
09:36we should keep one thing in mind
09:38that the proposals in it
09:40I can't discuss it right now.
09:42Last time I also said
09:44that political things
09:46and political matters are separate.
09:48We are the leaders of a large religious community.
09:50I am a student of a religious community.
09:52Last time when I was going out
09:54to my colleagues
09:56when many of them were saying
09:58that Maulana's matters are settled
10:00and Nawaz Sharif is coming
10:02I just said one thing
10:04that I am going from Maulana's house
10:06with a smile on my face
10:08and my smile is my answer.
10:10I have come from Maulana's house
10:12with a smile on my face.
10:14I have come from Maulana's house
10:16with a smile on my face.
10:18And Maulana said one more thing
10:20which is very important for you.
10:22I think you will be able to
10:24clear a lot of things.
10:26Maulana said
10:28that
10:30whoever
10:32wants to do anything
10:34against anyone
10:36they can do it.
10:38They can do it legally
10:40but we will not let
10:42our shoulders be used.