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00:00I have another question for him. You said that you will sit in front of the establishment
00:04and tell them that it is wrong to interfere in politics.
00:09If they say that they will keep doing it, then what should they do?
00:12Look, they are doing their calculations. If you look at it today, in the popular front…
00:17What will you do? This movement will be against the establishment.
00:20At the end, who will be the beneficiary in the system?
00:23If he is the beneficiary, then God may not be able to tolerate him.
00:27But having said that, in the last week, you have seen their four press conferences.
00:30You have presented your CV.
00:32The State Bank Governor, Mohammad Jameel, said that the ratings are very good.
00:34We are performing very well.
00:36Before that, Senator Aurangzeb said that he had a very good conversation with Finch.
00:39The ratings are triple. We are performing very well.
00:41Khawaja Asif's statement is that if you do it in Pakistan, then it will be an emergency.
00:44What are they thinking?
00:46They were giving us messages. If you push us more, then we will have less heart.
00:49We say that we can see that already.
00:51We can only see the play card in front of you.
00:55We can only see that. It doesn't really matter to us.
00:57But the point remains.
00:59Pakistan's future course of action…
01:05Future course of action has to be defined.
01:07Today, if Tehreek-e-Insaf is saying that we should run with them, then this is for the country.
01:11Otherwise, believe me, people would have kissed our hands today.
01:13If we go out now, people will kiss our hands.
01:15We have a very popular wave.
01:17But it is hurting the country and the state.
01:20Ask them which country they used to protest for in front of the IMF in America.
01:25Or the country whose planes were set on fire.
01:27Or the country whose army you used to call neutral and animal.
01:30Or the country where you used to talk about Mukti Bani and Sheikh Mujeeb-ur-Rehman.
01:34And you used to talk about breaking Pakistan.
01:36Ask them which country it is.
01:37It is the same thing with them.
01:38If you don't come from a foreign country, then come on your feet.
01:40And if you don't come on your feet, then you ask for NRO.
01:42Things don't work like this.
01:43People used to kiss their hands.
01:45But if you kiss their hands, things will not get better.
01:48One thing is decided.
01:49Two or three things are decided.
01:50One thing is that on incidents like 9th May,
01:52don't talk about forgiveness.
01:54First apologize.
01:55Punish the people who did it.
01:56Sir, we will punish them.
01:57We have to tell them a little way to move forward.
02:00The illegal work that someone has done, punish them.
02:03In this...
02:04And then after apologizing, you don't have to forgive them.
02:07After that, they will be in mercy of the courts.
02:10The courts have to tell them.
02:11The court has to tell them.
02:12The court has to tell them.
02:13They have to tell them.
02:14They have to tell them.
02:16Waseem, what do you think?
02:19They say Imran Khan is asking for NRO.
02:21Do you think Imran Khan is asking for NRO?
02:23Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim.
02:25Actually, the competition to present the CV is going on.
02:28I mean...
02:29I feel that Mr. Khan also knows that
02:31the government and the establishment are working together.
02:34But they are working because the establishment said
02:36there is no other option.
02:37It's not that the establishment...
02:38The Muslim League Noon is a beneficiary.
02:40It's not that the Muslim League Noon is the biggest establishment.
02:43So, the government is not that popular.
02:45The government is unpopular.
02:46So, Mr. Khan, after creating a ruckus,
02:49when he saw that from there...
02:51Of course, Mr. Khan's popularity is there.
02:53But there is no leniency from there.
02:55So, now there is another way.
02:57Where they think three or four things at the same time.
02:59On one hand, Mr. Faisal Khan is going.
03:00The mood of the courts is changing.
03:01People are worried.
03:02The government is unpopular.
03:04In this way, we will make the force believe that
03:05brother, we don't have a grudge against you.
03:07If we come back, we won't do anything to you.
03:09You can swear.
03:11And let's go together.
03:12Your issue of being unpopular will end.
03:14Our issue of being out of power will end.
03:16So, let's put them aside.
03:17Now, let's give it the name of NRO.
03:19Let's give it the name of CE.
03:20There are two views in Tariq-e-Insaaf.
03:22You can tell me later.
03:23I will tell Waseem.
03:24There is one view.
03:26The situation is such that this offer can be given.
03:31Let's see what comes out of it.
03:32The second view is that
03:33it is possible that such a conversation is taking place.
03:35At the back?
03:36They said, at least reduce the severity.
03:38If there is going to be a conversation,
03:40then reduce the severity.
03:41Because, as they say,
03:42at the end of the day,
03:43the conversation will be with the army.
03:44So, reduce the severity.
03:45The environment should be such that
03:46there can be a conversation.
03:47But, as they are saying,
03:48we have been made to sit in front of them.
03:50Whether they should be made to sit
03:51or someone else should sit on their behalf.
03:54Do you think this is an open way to sit?
03:57Because, in my opinion,
03:59at least what I am hearing,
04:00there will be no conversation.
04:02Nor is NRO being asked for.
04:04Nor is NRO being given.
04:05This is being told to you again and again.
04:07There is no room for Imran Khan.
04:09PTI's friends,
04:10I won't give their names.
04:11There is an opinion that
04:13there is some backdoor,
04:14national and international going on.
04:16So, it has been said from there,
04:18that brother,
04:19at least tell this
04:20that some statements are being made.
04:21So that if we have to give a way,
04:23then we also have a face-saving.
04:24I will be very surprised if something like this happens.
04:26In my opinion,
04:27nothing like this is going on.
04:28In my opinion, there is nothing like this.
04:29None of these.
04:30None of these.
04:31It may be happening tactically.
04:33Some attempts are being made.
04:34But, there is no background or anything.
04:35No.
04:36There is nothing besides development.
04:38This is a way
04:39to see if this works or not.
04:41Testing the water.
04:42And in this also,
04:43you never know.
04:44For 2-3 weeks,
04:45Mr. Khan is Mr. Khan.
04:46We know him better.
04:47If we try for 2-3 weeks,
04:49and if we see that there is no response,
04:51then they start air firing again
04:53and everything gets very hot.
04:54And this can also happen.
04:55You just think of that.
04:57Let me tell you an incident.
04:58There was a time when
04:59justice became popular
05:01after Mr. Imran Khan's no confidence.
05:03You were watching the Jalsas.
05:05Mr. Khan is doing big Jalsas.
05:07There was an argument.
05:09Mr. Khan was sitting with a senior leader.
05:12Mr. Khan,
05:13popular politics is done.
05:15We are satisfied.
05:16We have to move forward.
05:18This criticism was established.
05:20Now, this guy
05:21came with a senior leader.
05:22Mr. Khan had a speech in the evening.
05:24He was sitting and watching.
05:25And that speech was over.
05:26He said nothing.
05:27We said,
05:28job done.
05:29Now, things have improved.
05:30Next day.
05:31Next day.
05:32Mr. Khan
05:33raised his gun.
05:35Someone asked,
05:36Mr. Khan,
05:37that worker
05:38raised his gun negatively.
05:40So, I did it.
05:41But, that's him.
05:42He takes his people along with him.
05:44You can call it his credit.
05:48Mr. Kashif,
05:49when a person is on stage,
05:51he satisfies his ego.
05:53His ego,
05:54till date,
05:55was very important to us in the World Cup.
05:56In that World Cup,
05:57Inzamam-ul-Haq was a hero.
05:58In that World Cup,
05:59Wasim Akram was a hero.
06:00But, Imran Khan
06:01never mentioned the team.
06:02Team is a player.
06:03His ego,
06:04when he was on stage,
06:05he satisfied his ego.
06:06And, even today,
06:07when we talk about
06:08weakening Pakistan,
06:09when we talk about
06:10institutions,
06:11when they don't understand,
06:12their mental state,
06:13what they say,
06:14they talk about
06:15weakening the institutions.
06:16This ego is satisfied
06:17by taking the name of the generals.
06:18Sir, no.
06:19Not by taking the name of the generals.
06:20No, sir.
06:21If you say,
06:22I'll fire you.
06:23By taking the name of the generals.
06:24Destroy the country,
06:25this journal.
06:26And,
06:27fix Nawaz Sharif.
06:28No, no, no.
06:29And, fix Nawaz Sharif.
06:30No, no, no.
06:31And, fix Nawaz Sharif.
06:32No, no, no.
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