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00:00I'm sure Army Act prohibits military personnel from participating in politics for two or three years after retirement.
00:10Does the Army Act prohibit politicians from contacting military personnel?
00:16I haven't seen it in such a minute detail.
00:21Generally, if anything, within the Army Act, if you go against it,
00:27I haven't seen this specific term or this specific thing,
00:31but if you try and display or share information that you shouldn't,
00:41the sensitive information that you have as an Army officer,
00:44then if you have done that, then whether it's a politician or a judge or someone else,
00:49then what I'm talking about here is the Official Secrets Act.
00:52Now, if you want to try Kashif Abbasi or me or anyone else in the military court,
00:58then first you have to prove in the court that there has been a violation of the Official Secrets Act,
01:04which is not going to happen here.
01:06There was only one case against Iman Khan, the one with the cipher,
01:09and he was acquitted.
01:11Now, if this doesn't apply, then how are you making a case for the military court?
01:15But in Iman Khan's time, the 28-29 people who are being talked about,
01:19there were some APS officers, as well as other retired Army officers.
01:25Until then, there was no Supreme Court bench.
01:27Look, the judgment has just come.
01:29The trial is not being banned.
01:31Even now, in the Intracourt Appeal, the trial has not been stopped.
01:35But the things you are talking about, which you are calling sensitive information,
01:38I believe, and a lot of information is being given,
01:42it is being given here, it is being given to the journalists,
01:44that General Faiz has said this, he has also agreed to this,
01:47so these things have been found, and the phone records have been obtained,
01:50and these things have been proven,
01:51because a lot of information comes to us through different journalists.
01:55The problem here is, will this information be available until 9th May?
02:01That is, by 9th May…
02:02You have reached.
02:03Coordinates, places, locations…
02:06And I was listening to Mr. Naleef Abbasi,
02:08he also said somewhere that he has agreed to this in order to become a witness.
02:12I am not privy to that information.
02:14You are saying that this information has been shared.
02:18Because when I hear all these things,
02:20in which it was said that the Army Act was against political interests.
02:23Look, when you write political interests,
02:26to promote your political interests,
02:29in comparison to that, it could also be written that
02:31the country or the institution's sensitive information has been harmed.
02:35I feel that this is pointing towards 9th May.
02:38I see involvement in politics here.
02:40But the political interests,
02:42obviously they had only one political objective,
02:45of both the parties.
02:46Now, the political objective of both the parties was the same,
02:48that Barsare will remain in power.
02:49But we have already decided that,
02:51the first decision will be that,
02:52is this law applicable to the politician,
02:54that he does not want to contact an army officer?
02:56I think, the politician…
02:58Look at the citizen of Pakistan.
03:01Look, only the politician should not be under that protection.
03:04Sir, I meet retired soldiers.
03:05May God bless the citizen of Pakistan.
03:07But those two years have passed.
03:08Not at all.
03:09What are you saying?
03:11I am sure you must have met him somewhere.
03:13Who?
03:14What are you saying?
03:15Can't anyone meet a citizen of Pakistan?
03:16No.
03:17Look, Mr. Kashif, this is very…
03:18Sharing, information sharing or sensitivity,
03:20or if the objectives are shared…
03:21Everybody has a story to tell.
03:23It's true.
03:24This is something else,
03:26that attack here, go there, do that.
03:28This is another story.
03:30Mr. Kashif, I will say the same thing again.
03:32Look, this is a very tailored interpretation.
03:34Okay?
03:35This is done in a way to achieve a goal.
03:41I will say the same thing again.
03:43I suppose we have gone through this,
03:46that's why we have a lot of details.
03:48The Official Secrets Act was implemented in the CIFAR case.
03:50I saw it very carefully.
03:52So, there are very strict criteria in this.
03:56You cannot say that,
03:58I met a retired soldier over a cup of coffee
04:00and he told me this incident.
04:02No.
04:03Official Secrets,
04:05you did something that harmed the state.
04:08You benefited a foreign power.
04:11You did something anti-state.
04:13That's why I say, unless it's 9th May,
04:16and there is serious involvement.
04:18Yes.
04:19And there is a set criteria.
04:21I don't think there is a military case against Imran Khan.
04:23That's what I think.
04:24And then,
04:25you have to bring him to the court
04:28and indict him under the Official Secrets Act.
04:33After the indictment, you can take him there.
04:35There is no indictment yet.
04:37There is no case yet.
04:38But he didn't say that it will happen.
04:40He said that the law will take its course.
04:41Let's be honest.
04:42He said that the case has already started.
04:45That the court-martial has already started.
04:48In Imran Khan's case, he said that
04:50if there is evidence,
04:53So, I think this process is ongoing.
04:55Let's put it this way.