PTI Kyun Fouj Se Mazakraat Karna Chahti Hai? Intezar Panjutha Ne Sab Bata Diya
PTI Kyun Fouj Se Mazakraat Karna Chahti Hai? Intezar Panjutha Ne Sab Bata Diya
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00:00Thank you very much, Mr. Panjota, for joining us.
00:03Let's start one by one.
00:04First of all, about the negotiations.
00:06Last time, when we met, Mr. Khan was asked if he wanted to talk.
00:11He said that if a representative is appointed, he wants to talk to the establishment.
00:17He spoke very directly.
00:19But at the same time, Mr. Achak Zaheer was also mandated somewhere to talk.
00:24So, are these two parallel negotiations that are being worked on?
00:29Or is it one process, one direction, one mandate?
00:33Thank you very much, Maria.
00:35It is not at all the case that there are two different directions.
00:41Let me make it clear to you that there is one direction of justice, led by Mr. Imran Khan.
00:47And with Mr. Achak Zaheer, we have a political alliance, he has his own party.
00:52In addition to that, there is also MDPM with him.
00:55And we have an alliance, you know that.
00:58Now, the head of the alliance is Mr. Mahmood Achak Zaheer.
01:02On the political side, all the political parties, which you know,
01:06apart from the BMLN and People's Party, Mr. Khan announced that we will talk to everyone.
01:11So, he has been mandated to talk to everyone,
01:14that for a movement, he will put all the political parties on one platform.
01:19Correct.
01:20In addition to this, there is another situation.
01:22The situation is that right now, in the country, let's be fair,
01:26the situation is such that the political government,
01:29first of all, they do not keep a mandate,
01:31we consider them to be fake and they are the progenitors of Form 47.
01:35Now, the position is that they have power.
01:38You also know and the whole world is seeing how much power they have.
01:42And the next thing is that the real power is where it is.
01:47And if you say something meaningful,
01:50then it will be with those who are controlling all these processes right now.
01:54So, they are definitely controlling the establishment.
01:56So, Mr. Achak Zaheer, then why will you talk to different stakeholders?
01:59There was also news that maybe the government should also contact the alliance,
02:01contact different political parties.
02:03When they are powerless, then what will they talk about?
02:06When you have to talk to the army, then that is a parallel process.
02:10Even if they talk to political stakeholders,
02:12but they do not have your power.
02:14So, what is happening? Where will this conversation go?
02:17No, Maria, it is not like that at all.
02:20Look, we are political parties.
02:22We are all political parties and we believe in peaceful talks.
02:26And our movement has always been peaceful.
02:29Now, the peaceful movement has to end at some point.
02:33If you want to get it to a logical conclusion,
02:35then of course, sitting on the table and its dialogue will be the only way.
02:39Now, there are two parallel things in it.
02:41Mr. Mehmood Achak Zaheer is our ally,
02:43but he does not want to engage with the establishment or anyone else.
02:48So, this is his position.
02:50But we are a political party. We are independent.
02:53We have our own policy.
02:55Even though we are in an alliance, we use our party's forum.
03:00You know about the party's forum.
03:02Mr. Khan himself announced a few weeks ago
03:05that representatives from his side will be available for discussions.
03:10Now, basically, it is an impression that we have closed our doors.
03:16We are a political party. We believe in the political process.
03:19And while believing in the same process,
03:21we have always talked about dialogue.
03:23Sir, the doors are closed because Mr. Shahbaz Sharif has spoken
03:26to the parliament's forum several times.
03:29Yesterday, we heard this voice from the People's Party.
03:32In addition to this, Mr. Rana Sinha Ullah,
03:34the other senior leadership of the party,
03:36Mr. Musadeq Malik's statement,
03:38which is on record,
03:40he says, come, sit, talk.
03:42If your doors are not closed
03:44and Mr. Achak Zahid will only engage political parties at some point,
03:47then you have completely rejected the first conversation.
03:50Because they do not have the authority.
03:52Look, in the first answer I gave you,
03:56I have made it clear that
03:58Mr. Khan has categorically refused to talk to two political parties.
04:03Which two? The People's Party and PMLNP.
04:06We have reasons for that.
04:07One reason is that in 2023,
04:11when the Supreme Court of Pakistan talked about the May 14 election,
04:15the Supreme Court facilitated a negotiation
04:19in which all political parties were included,
04:22including the PMLN and the People's Party.
04:24At that time, they said to those negotiations,
04:27that we will not have elections,
04:30we will have elections only when the establishment wants.
04:33And on the second number, they said that Nawaz Sharif will come back.
04:36There will be two elections.
04:37And on the third, they said that
04:39until Qazi Faiz Issa Sahib becomes the Chief Justice,
04:42Nawaz Sharif will not come back.
04:45So all these things are such that
04:47then our negotiations,
04:49we sent a team from our side,
04:51that team is also present.
04:53Mr. Khan himself has also talked about all these things.
04:55We will not talk to him.
04:57The negotiations have just come out of the Supreme Court.
05:01Mr. Tariq-e-Insaf, as a party,
05:03Mr. Tariq-e-Insaf, as a party,
05:05wants to talk only to the establishment.
05:08This is your categorical position.
05:10The People's Party does not want to talk to the PMLN.
05:13They just want to talk to the establishment.
05:15The reason for this is that
05:17they have all the power.
05:20At the moment, the establishment has all the power.
05:23The political government that we see,
05:27this political government has no power.
05:30They have no power.