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00:00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Peace be upon you.
00:00:22You are watching Baqabar Sabira, in which you are very welcome,
00:00:25which you are anxiously waiting for.
00:00:28How do you know?
00:00:29I know because I keep checking the feedback.
00:00:31Very nice, very nice.
00:00:33And I get the idea that people say...
00:00:34Do you keep a secret?
00:00:35Often people come and tell me.
00:00:38And this is a very good thing.
00:00:39When you give feedback, it increases our courage.
00:00:42Very nice of you.
00:00:43So...
00:00:44If you do that, and whenever someone comes to me,
00:00:46he has always given feedback for Sadaf Abdul Jabbar,
00:00:48so it's vice versa.
00:00:49I'm sure my people also do Tazkira.
00:00:51Yes, people do Tazkira, which I often share with you.
00:00:54Without a doubt.
00:00:55Okay, so I am Sadaf Abdul Jabbar,
00:00:57and this is Shafaq Izzat Satti.
00:00:58And yesterday, an interesting scenario was made internationally.
00:01:02We saw how in Bangladesh,
00:01:05their Prime Minister was nowhere to be found.
00:01:09That is, she was not safe even in her Prime Minister's house.
00:01:11And they flew her in a helicopter.
00:01:13We saw one scene in Afghanistan,
00:01:15when Ashraf Ghani was going through helicopters,
00:01:17and where the American forces were leaving.
00:01:20After that, the circumstances were such.
00:01:21Secondly, we saw in Sri Lanka that
00:01:24the people were in a state of grief and anger,
00:01:26and the President had fled.
00:01:28And here, yesterday, we saw the Prime Minister of Bangladesh.
00:01:31And then we heard that she was going to India.
00:01:33Even now, the same chaotic situation is there.
00:01:35So, looking at the scenario of Bangladesh,
00:01:38everyone is wondering what the situation is,
00:01:40that the protest of the people there
00:01:42has forced the Prime Minister to leave.
00:01:44I would say that what goes around, comes around.
00:01:47The first thing is, how did this happen?
00:01:49You see, there was no two-party system there.
00:01:53You see, the situation there since 1971,
00:01:58first it was the rule of her father,
00:01:59then it ended, etc. etc.
00:02:01Since she came to power,
00:02:03earlier, we used to hear that
00:02:05Khalida Zia Sahiba is the Prime Minister of Bangladesh.
00:02:08After that, Haseena Wajid is being formed.
00:02:10But then there were such allegations of Haseena Wajid,
00:02:12that she did not let anyone other than herself come.
00:02:14The other Jamaats,
00:02:16or the other Jamaat, for example, of Khalida Zia Sahiba,
00:02:19falsely accused her and kept her away from power.
00:02:22And then she maintained her dictatorship.
00:02:24Then, secondly, anti-Pakistan sentiment.
00:02:27You see, anti-Pakistan sentiment.
00:02:30And that Jamaat-e-Islami is also there.
00:02:32So, that leader, who had supported Pakistan at some point,
00:02:35getting him to file cases later and get him punished.
00:02:38Imagine, 15 years of long rule,
00:02:40and coming to power again and again.
00:02:43Continuously.
00:02:44And after that, we saw,
00:02:45when these students were protesting,
00:02:47instead of finding a solution to this,
00:02:51even though the court had decided,
00:02:52despite that,
00:02:54they started calling people volunteers.
00:02:57In 1971, the term volunteer was generally used
00:03:00for those Pakistanis,
00:03:01who had voluntarily supported the Pakistani soldiers in the war.
00:03:06So, in a way, they were calling them traitors.
00:03:08They tried to blame Pakistan.
00:03:09We have breaking news right now.
00:03:11We will talk about this topic in detail.
00:03:14Asad Amoor Sahib was unwell.
00:03:16He had reached the court room.
00:03:17We found out that he was unwell in the court room.
00:03:21And the lawyer asked for Rescue 1122 immediately.
00:03:25Abid Khan is with us.
00:03:26Let's get to know more about him.
00:03:27Abid Khan, please tell us about this.
00:03:29Yes, of course.
00:03:30In the case of 9th May,
00:03:32Asad Umar and Omar Yusuf Mehti,
00:03:34the three political leaders,
00:03:37were present in the court room for the entire time.
00:03:40There was a rush in the court room.
00:03:41A large number of lawyers and lawyers were present.
00:03:44As a result, Asad Umar suddenly fell ill.
00:03:47At first, his lawyer called Rescue 1122.
00:03:50Later, he suddenly fell unconscious.
00:03:53As a result, the lawyer and the police
00:03:55and other people picked him up
00:03:57and took him to the court room.
00:03:59His car was towed to the court room.
00:04:02He was immediately transferred to the PIC.
00:04:04So that he could be treated.
00:04:06Asad Umar Mehti had a heart condition.
00:04:09So, he was immediately sent to the PIC.
00:04:12So, how far is the PIC from here?
00:04:15And what did you find out from there initially?
00:04:18Yes, it is very close to the PIC.
00:04:21It is a 5-minute drive.
00:04:23Now, he has reached.
00:04:25Now, the doctors are doing his check-up.
00:04:27They want to see why he suddenly fell ill.
00:04:30Because it seems that he has a heart condition.
00:04:34He has a severe heart condition.
00:04:35There was also a rush in the court room.
00:04:37As a result, he suddenly fell ill.
00:04:40And then they had to pick him up
00:04:42and take him to the court room.
00:04:44The court room was not open.
00:04:48The police took Asad Umar Mehti
00:04:51and took him to the court room.
00:04:53They took him to the court room and sent him to the PIC.
00:04:55So that he could get proper treatment there.
00:04:57Thank you so much.
00:04:59May Allah keep Asad Umar Mehti in His protection.
00:05:01Asad Umar Mehti has fallen ill.
00:05:03And it is said that he has a heart condition.
00:05:06He is already suffering from this condition.
00:05:08So, for now, it is very important
00:05:10that in such cases,
00:05:12it is very important
00:05:14that the person is taken to the hospital as soon as possible.
00:05:17And the Punjab Institute of Cardiology
00:05:19is also a designated hospital in this regard.
00:05:21So, we hope that Allah will take care of his health.
00:05:25Now, let's move ahead.
00:05:27Let's start the show properly.
00:05:30Let's move towards our segment.
00:05:32Yesterday, there was another important press conference
00:05:35on behalf of DGISPR.
00:05:37Before this, there were talks
00:05:39that there was such an impression
00:05:41from Mr. Tehreek-e-Insaf
00:05:43that the conversation has started to backdoor.
00:05:46Some matters are being made like this.
00:05:48Yesterday, but again,
00:05:50in two words,
00:05:52DGISPR said that
00:05:54regarding 9th May,
00:05:56there will be no change in the position of the army.
00:05:58There is one mafia
00:06:00which does not want the progress of the people of Pakistan.
00:06:02And they say that if there is a fire in the house,
00:06:04then it is not said
00:06:06that why have you come to put out the fire?
00:06:08In fact, those who put out the fire,
00:06:10they ask why have you come to put out the fire?
00:06:12So, there are different aspects of this press conference.
00:06:14We will tell you
00:06:16what they said in this regard,
00:06:18regarding 9th May.
00:06:20Now, you see that
00:06:22this press conference,
00:06:24in this regard,
00:06:26they had to say more about DGISPR
00:06:28that we know who and why
00:06:30Bahrain-e-Mulk is running the movement.
00:06:32And the law has not
00:06:34taken its course against it.
00:06:38It is also well known
00:06:40that Bahrain-e-Mulk
00:06:42are those state and non-state
00:06:44who proliferate
00:06:46and run this campaign
00:06:48and help it.
00:06:50This year, in 2007,
00:06:52only 127 articles
00:06:54have been written
00:06:56in foreign print media
00:06:58whose aim is to spread despair in Pakistan,
00:07:00to spread commotion
00:07:02and to promote this political agenda.
00:07:04Behind this,
00:07:06there is a coordinated thinking
00:07:08and a lot of money is being invested.
00:07:10The entire social media,
00:07:12the print media,
00:07:14the electronic media,
00:07:16the meetings,
00:07:18the protests,
00:07:20they are running this campaign
00:07:22and are sponsoring it.
00:07:24They will ask for some price for it.
00:07:26And that price is the spread.
00:07:28And further, they say in this press conference
00:07:30that Bahrain-e-Mulk is a proxy
00:07:32of the so-called leaders,
00:07:34terrorist organizations and the mafia.
00:07:36Their way of doing things is
00:07:38that they collect money
00:07:40from foreign funding
00:07:42and foreign media.
00:07:44It is not right to block the roads.
00:07:46And they say that when they are asked,
00:07:48they become innocent.
00:07:50Alright, let's talk about this.
00:07:52We have with us,
00:07:54the defence expert,
00:07:56Brigadier Retired Waqar Hassan Khan.
00:07:58This was a very important
00:08:00press conference.
00:08:02And obviously,
00:08:04the issues that were highlighted,
00:08:06I would like you to sum up
00:08:08the important issues
00:08:10that were discussed.
00:08:16Mr. Waqar, can you hear me?
00:08:20We try to connect them
00:08:22so that we can talk to them.
00:08:24And obviously,
00:08:26they will give us their opinion.
00:08:28There was a press conference before this.
00:08:30And in that press conference,
00:08:32DGISPR said that
00:08:34this interaction will continue.
00:08:36So, in the question and answer session,
00:08:38many questions were raised.
00:08:40So,
00:08:42there was an impression
00:08:44that the people responsible
00:08:46for the 9th of May incident
00:08:48or the Bani PTI,
00:08:50they want to talk.
00:08:52The army should appoint a representative.
00:08:54So,
00:08:56what is the outcome of this?
00:08:58But now, it has become very clear.
00:09:00And the same thing,
00:09:02the incidents that took place,
00:09:04should be apologised for.
00:09:06Only after that,
00:09:08can we move forward.
00:09:10We have with us,
00:09:12Brigadier Retired Waqar Hassan Khan.
00:09:14Mr. Waqar, I hope you are hearing me clearly.
00:09:16I wanted to know,
00:09:18first of all,
00:09:20we would like you to give your opinion
00:09:22on the timing,
00:09:24the necessity,
00:09:26and the issues that were discussed.
00:09:30I think the press conference
00:09:32was definitely
00:09:34related to the 5th of August.
00:09:36I would like to make a passing comment.
00:09:38Some time ago,
00:09:40a party presented Mujibur Rahman
00:09:42as a hero in Pakistan.
00:09:44I think a lot of propaganda was done on that.
00:09:46Last night, the Bengalis
00:09:48demolished their assembly.
00:09:50Before you make a false narrative
00:09:52about the history of Pakistan,
00:09:54you should remember the feeling there.
00:09:56I think that was just a passing reference
00:09:58on how you can
00:10:00try to tarnish history.
00:10:02It can be a boomerang on your face.
00:10:04The press conference yesterday,
00:10:06at the start,
00:10:08was definitely on the 5th of August.
00:10:10Because Pakistan politically
00:10:12supports it,
00:10:14diplomatically supports it,
00:10:16and there was a need for Jagjiti.
00:10:18Jagjiti's Kashmiri brothers
00:10:20across the line of control.
00:10:22The Prime Minister also went there.
00:10:24After that, I think there were 5-6
00:10:26big takeaways from the press conference.
00:10:28Mainly,
00:10:30there was a review
00:10:32on Pakistan's war against terror.
00:10:34How intense it is
00:10:36in terms of intelligence-based operations.
00:10:38Allah was very successful in that,
00:10:40despite the serious effort
00:10:42to destabilize our western border.
00:10:44Then,
00:10:46there was a discussion
00:10:48about the contribution
00:10:50of the SIFC,
00:10:52especially the far-flung areas,
00:10:54such as the KP,
00:10:56Iblis region.
00:10:58I think it was a very interesting thing
00:11:00when the economic crisis came
00:11:02and the army was called for help.
00:11:04It came forward
00:11:06as an organized institution.
00:11:08When it helps,
00:11:10questions are raised.
00:11:12Take the example of Bangladesh.
00:11:14If the army is called for help,
00:11:16before that,
00:11:18the economic crisis
00:11:20should be seen positively.
00:11:22Then,
00:11:24there is digital terrorism.
00:11:26If you
00:11:28weaponize information,
00:11:30as was done on 9th May,
00:11:32there can be a lot of repercussions.
00:11:34People are relating
00:11:36to Bangladesh.
00:11:38I have a small point.
00:11:40If the army
00:11:42did not restrain
00:11:44on 9th May,
00:11:46As you can see,
00:11:48Haseena Wajid advanced
00:11:50her law enforcement
00:11:52in three layers.
00:11:54First, the police,
00:11:56then the protection battalions,
00:11:58followed by border guards,
00:12:00and then the army.
00:12:02That's why the army chief
00:12:04had a lot of difficulty
00:12:06because the army
00:12:08was also involved at the end.
00:12:10As I always say,
00:12:12this is the situation
00:12:14in Bangladesh.
00:12:16In Gwadar,
00:12:18a soldier was martyred
00:12:20with his hands.
00:12:22Restraint is seen
00:12:24as our own people.
00:12:26People are misinterpreting it
00:12:28and relating it to 9th May.
00:12:30It's a totally different situation.
00:12:32There was total mishandling
00:12:34when you fired at your people.
00:12:36There was restraint here.
00:12:38Then there was a question
00:12:40on the sub-Nazis group,
00:12:42especially below Jagdeti concert.
00:12:44I think the public has seen
00:12:46how they are inciting
00:12:48outside.
00:12:50They just came back
00:12:52from Scandinavia.
00:12:54After that, you can say
00:12:56that a situation is being developed
00:12:58so that when CPEC-2 launches,
00:13:00Gwadar will be developed
00:13:02as an international port.
00:13:04But I think the public
00:13:06should compare
00:13:08the figures.
00:13:10They are giving financial aid
00:13:12to 1,000 people.
00:13:14India has 3,70,000 people.
00:13:16USA has 6,00,000 people
00:13:18missing every year.
00:13:20Every year,
00:13:226,00,000 people disappear.
00:13:24They say that they don't get
00:13:26a trace of 1,00,000 people.
00:13:28In the last 20 years,
00:13:305,000,000-6,00,000 people
00:13:32are missing every year.
00:13:34Of course, you have
00:13:36given us the details
00:13:38of yesterday's press conference.
00:13:40But when the question
00:13:42and answer session was held,
00:13:44it was mentioned again
00:13:46that you know that
00:13:48they are sending messages
00:13:50to discuss the issue.
00:13:52There were some discussions
00:13:54about it.
00:13:56But yesterday, DGISPR said
00:13:58that the situation of the army
00:14:00is very clear about 9th May
00:14:02So please elaborate
00:14:04on this.
00:14:06I think 9th May is a
00:14:08transfer of reasons.
00:14:10The reason is that if
00:14:12this precedence is allowed,
00:14:14and mind you,
00:14:16there was a small effort
00:14:18in Bannu as well.
00:14:20It was a national effort
00:14:22of the chaos generators.
00:14:24In Bannu, they incited violence,
00:14:26drew fire from the military
00:14:28and created a scene.
00:14:30So this should not be a precedence.
00:14:329th May, I think the whole of Pakistan
00:14:34watched the live telecast.
00:14:36We have talked about
00:14:38how the targeting was being done.
00:14:40There was a chorus.
00:14:42Some of their supporters
00:14:44who are in North America and the UK
00:14:46did live transmissions for 6 hours.
00:14:48US senators and congressmen
00:14:50also joined.
00:14:52There was an international agenda
00:14:54that the people and the army
00:14:56should stand up
00:14:58and speak up.
00:15:00I think this is very important.
00:15:02There was a program
00:15:04in which Captain Rasfan Zahir
00:15:06his father came
00:15:08and his son's monument
00:15:10was vandalized.
00:15:12He lives in Attock.
00:15:14He said, I was crying
00:15:16that why did my son
00:15:18sacrifice his life
00:15:20despite the fact that he
00:15:22has always supported
00:15:24that people do not even realize
00:15:27Unfortunately, they tried
00:15:29to draw a response.
00:15:31There was an effort
00:15:33that the chain of command
00:15:35of the army should be disrupted
00:15:37and there should be a rebellion.
00:15:39Then you start trivializing it
00:15:41and delay it and take the support
00:15:43of the courts.
00:15:45I think if there is no justice
00:15:47and accountability,
00:15:49that's why the 9th May
00:15:51has an impact.
00:15:53Another factor is
00:15:55accountability.
00:15:57Those who are innocent
00:15:59should be left alone.
00:16:01Those who are guilty
00:16:03should be punished.
00:16:05The law is not taking
00:16:07its course against
00:16:09the digital terrorists.
00:16:11What are the conditions
00:16:13in this law for the DGISPR
00:16:15and the army
00:16:17and how can it be bettered?
00:16:19Pakistan is a soft state
00:16:21on the digital front.
00:16:23I will only relate
00:16:25such laws in India.
00:16:27There is a seizure law
00:16:29in India.
00:16:31In 2019-2020,
00:16:33Modi allowed it.
00:16:35There are 13 agencies
00:16:37from RAW to Delhi Police.
00:16:39If you are on the road,
00:16:41they can take your mobile
00:16:43phone or laptop,
00:16:45draw the data,
00:16:47seize the data and
00:16:49then arrest you.
00:16:51There is a cyber force
00:16:53in France.
00:16:55In China and Russia,
00:16:57it is centrally controlled.
00:16:59In the Middle East,
00:17:01you can go to Iran
00:17:03and tweet.
00:17:05It is free for all.
00:17:07There is a PICA Act.
00:17:09It was an ordinance
00:17:11and then it became an act.
00:17:13It needs implementation.
00:17:15We should be careful
00:17:17not to exploit it.
00:17:19But if you start
00:17:21a hate campaign,
00:17:23people were killed
00:17:25for blasphemy.
00:17:27Social media has become
00:17:29very important.
00:17:31All states are doing it.
00:17:33In the UK, there is a simple law
00:17:35that if you can't abuse
00:17:37on the street, you can't abuse
00:17:39on social media.
00:17:41We feel that
00:17:43you are doing it privately
00:17:45and it is your domain.
00:17:47You are affecting other lives.
00:17:49You are scandalizing and undermining
00:17:51the institution.
00:17:53The courts need to be updated.
00:17:55Our ultimate system
00:17:57is based on the British common law
00:17:59which is made in 1880.
00:18:01It is not compatible
00:18:03with the 21st century.
00:18:05It needs speedy justice.
00:18:07You have seen
00:18:09that when you weaponized
00:18:11information, people ran
00:18:13to their Congress.
00:18:15We will talk about that
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00:24:49The government's corruption and bogus cases, what do you think are the major red flags in their governance?
00:24:58Look, we can give credit to Sheikh Hasina that Bangladesh has performed better economically in the last few decades.
00:25:09In fact, there has been a lot of investment from Pakistan in Bangladesh.
00:25:13But when the issue of the quota system has triggered all this,
00:25:19even though Sheikh Hasina did not have a direct role,
00:25:24it was decided by the courts of Dhaka or Bangladesh,
00:25:29and then in the end, the Supreme Court reduced it by 30% and brought a quota of 7%.
00:25:35But there were stories of corruption going on regarding Sheikh Hasina.
00:25:41Then, as I said before, they put the opposition right on the wall.
00:25:46And then in the foreign policy domain of Bangladesh,
00:25:51the disputes with India, whether it is the matter of the sharing of Tista water,
00:25:59whether it is the matter of the sharing of the Fiji river, whether it is the matter of the Paraka Bairaj,
00:26:04they conceded a lot to India.
00:26:07In fact, recently, a while ago, Sheikh Hasina decided that the conservation and management project of Tista water is going to be given to China.
00:26:20Then, under the pressure of Prime Minister Modi, he gave the project to India.
00:26:26So, I think that the people have seen that Sheikh Hasina has become a dictator.
00:26:33And it happened in July.
00:26:35Last year, last month.
00:26:37Yes, last month.
00:26:39So, people were told that he is a dictator and there is a big threat to the democracy in Bangladesh.
00:26:46And he did not let all the opposition parties work in one way or the other.
00:26:51And if you look at the parliament and the way it came in the last elections,
00:26:55I think it was a red flag, as you said.
00:26:58So, it had a cumulative effect.
00:27:01And today, in this context, Bangladesh…
00:27:03So, Abdul Basit, there is one more thing.
00:27:05One thing is that Bangladesh's policy is totally India-centric.
00:27:09That is, you also gave some references.
00:27:11The total focus was on how to please India, one way or the other.
00:27:15And secondly, you are also talking about the impression that what happened with India,
00:27:20what happened with America in Afghanistan,
00:27:22what happened with India in Dhaka,
00:27:24that their policy was totally public-centric.
00:27:27In fact, they kept propagandizing that if Khalid Zia's government comes
00:27:31or some other group's government comes,
00:27:33then Bangladesh will be in the hands of extremists.
00:27:36So, even with this resentment, even with so much over-control,
00:27:39there was resentment among the people there.
00:27:41Absolutely, you are absolutely right.
00:27:43And the way Sheikh Haseena ran away from her country,
00:27:47you are absolutely right.
00:27:49I also remembered Ashraf Ghani.
00:27:51He ran away on 15th August 2021,
00:27:53leaving his country.
00:27:55If she was so much in favor of democracy,
00:27:57she would have stayed in the country.
00:27:59Now, an inquiry commission will be formed, I am sure.
00:28:01It will investigate who is responsible for the 300 deaths.
00:28:05So, a situation has been created.
00:28:08And we, as Pakistanis,
00:28:10we have always tried to make Sheikh Haseena's relationship
00:28:15with Bangladesh and Pakistan better.
00:28:18We invited her to Pakistan many times,
00:28:21but her 1971 narrative or time was not coming out of it.
00:28:27You have also been an ambassador.
00:28:29You must remember when she won the match
00:28:31against Pakistan in Bangladesh in 1999.
00:28:34Do you remember what was her statement?
00:28:36That we have avenged 1971.
00:28:38Just imagine.
00:29:08Hmm.
00:29:19Hmm.
00:29:38Hmm.
00:30:05Hmm.
00:30:08Hmm.
00:30:20Hmm.
00:30:38Hmm.
00:31:09Hmm.
00:31:16So, that may be a key factor as well.
00:31:27Hmm.
00:31:29Hmm.
00:31:37Hmm.
00:31:54Hmm.
00:31:58Hmm.
00:32:12Let's take a break.
00:32:20So, welcome back once again.
00:32:28Hmm.
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00:39:58The authorities of Lahore, Lahore administration, district government of Lahore, WASA, Lahore
00:40:07Waste Management Authority, they not only cleared this entire area, but after clearing
00:40:13this area, just after a few hours, they cleared it and made it clear that at this time, there
00:40:20is no rain water anywhere in Lahore.
00:40:22Now we will go from here to another ancient area of Lahore.
00:40:27I am presently at Ghadishow Chowk, Ghadishow area is an ancient and historical area of Lahore.
00:40:35But the situation at this time is that even here, the water was cleared in just a few
00:40:41hours and big heavy disposal motors were installed.
00:40:44From here, the rain water has been completely removed.
00:40:49The authorities of Lahore, Lahore administration, district government of Lahore, Lahore WASA,
00:40:55Lahore Waste Management Authority, the workers of all three have taken joint action and cleared
00:41:00the area of Lahore from the problem of rain water.
00:41:04Thank you so much Khawaja Naseer sahib and thank you to our representatives from Karachi.
00:41:09You can imagine, I am from Karachi, Asghar Umar, then along with him, you can see that
00:41:13Ishrat Khan, Nazir was with us, Afzal was with us, Afzal Parvez was with us.
00:41:19So you can see how many representatives have reported together because Karachi is a big
00:41:24city and you can see that it takes a lot of time to go from one place to another.
00:41:27But the condition of the roads in Lahore is better, so Khawaja Naseer sahib solved the
00:41:30whole problem and he was so happy doing that because everything was peaceful.
00:41:34Everything was peaceful and he could tell that see how the road is here, so we will
00:41:39talk about why this is the case.
00:41:41Both are the cities of Pakistan, but why are the conditions of both so different, we will
00:41:45talk about this, but let's take a break here, we will come back after the break.
00:41:53Alright, once again, I welcome you all.
00:41:55In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
00:41:57Assalamualaikum, Ashfaq Ishaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar are present in front of you again.
00:42:01The time has passed from 9 to 10 o'clock.
00:42:03InshaAllah, you and we will be together from 10 to 11 o'clock.
00:42:07And then it is that our Uboori government is established here, mine and Sadaf's.
00:42:11You call it Uboori government?
00:42:13We come here daily, which you call Uboori government.
00:42:15The day you take leave or the day I take leave, then it will be Uboori.
00:42:19Then it will be Uboori.
00:42:21Then it will be a one-man show.
00:42:23Anyway, before this we were talking, it was a very important topic and it is also very
00:42:27relevant because we are going through these circumstances every day and we are wondering
00:42:31that we pay so much tax, why don't we get its return?
00:42:35Why don't we get clean roads?
00:42:37And why are there so many difficulties for us?
00:42:39Sadaf, I accept roads.
00:42:41The point is that even while driving, your kidneys and lungs are transferred from one
00:42:47place to another.
00:42:49Your intestines are transferred from here to there.
00:42:51So the bikers have more back pain.
00:42:53I don't know who all raise the question that if there is one pain, then they should
00:42:57also do Madawah.
00:42:59Heartache, heartache, back pain, there are three.
00:43:01So those are the problems.
00:43:03We have also shown you a comparison in the last hour that it rained so much in Lahore
00:43:07and despite that the roads are looking fine.
00:43:11In Karachi, it rained 40, 50, 70 mm.
00:43:15After that, you yourself saw this scene with your own eyes and this is not from one place,
00:43:19but from different areas of the city.
00:43:21So let's talk about how a good road is made and how a good road is not made in Karachi.
00:43:25What is a good road?
00:43:27Let's talk about it.
00:43:29Thank you so much.
00:43:31Thank you so much.
00:43:37So what is so wrong here in Karachi?
00:43:59In Karachi, the strong water drainage system is designed.
00:44:01After that, its sewerage system is designed.
00:44:03And these are two different things.
00:44:05In Karachi, unfortunately, this strong water drainage system has collapsed and is finished.
00:44:11It has ended because when the areas of Karachi were designed,
00:44:15that is, if we talk about North Nazimabad, Gulshan-e-Iqbal, back in the 1950s,
00:44:19in the 80s, 50s, 60s, 70s, when it was designed,
00:44:23it was designed in such a way that all the residential streets,
00:44:29lanes, residentials,
00:44:31after that the commercials,
00:44:33their bypass intersections,
00:44:35then the main roads,
00:44:37its whole level is like a plate.
00:44:39It is designed like a plate,
00:44:41when any housing scheme is designed.
00:44:43So the rainwater never goes through the gutter.
00:44:47This is completely wrong.
00:44:49The reason for this is that
00:44:51the road that is made from asphalt,
00:44:53the road that is made from bitumen,
00:44:55if sewerage water comes on that road,
00:44:57the sewerage water is so chemical
00:44:59that if that gutter water
00:45:01stands on the road for a day,
00:45:03then your asphalt
00:45:05layer of black color
00:45:07has bitumen chemical in it.
00:45:09That chemical spoils in a day
00:45:11and then gravels come out.
00:45:13Basically, what is a road?
00:45:15Gravels are small stones,
00:45:17small stones,
00:45:19we compress it and add a black chemical to it
00:45:21and in this way we
00:45:23pave it.
00:45:25It is called charcoal.
00:45:27If the gutter water,
00:45:29sewerage water comes,
00:45:31then it collapses.
00:45:33Now in Karachi, unfortunately,
00:45:35this strong water drainage system
00:45:37was there 50 years ago,
00:45:39after that it ended.
00:45:41Why did it end?
00:45:43It ended because,
00:45:45on the main roads,
00:45:47the buildings or houses
00:45:49that you used to see 20 years ago,
00:45:51today the roads have gone up
00:45:53and the houses have gone down.
00:45:55You have seen in Gulistan-e-Johar
00:45:57how many such projects have been made
00:45:59that have gone down 10-15 feet from the road.
00:46:01This was the biggest engineering failure
00:46:03of our Karachi system
00:46:05that whenever a new road is made,
00:46:07the old road is dismantled,
00:46:09this is called scarification.
00:46:11So that the level is maintained.
00:46:13Whenever a tender is given to us,
00:46:15its job is to
00:46:17excavate the old road,
00:46:19remove it and lay a new road
00:46:21at the same level.
00:46:23It does this, it lays a new road
00:46:25on this road, then a new road,
00:46:27then a new road.
00:46:29So which engineers are there
00:46:31who are in such trouble?
00:46:33Look, where there is no family
00:46:35and only corruption,
00:46:37then all these things happen.
00:46:39No, but tell me one thing,
00:46:41I do not know
00:46:43if someone is making a road,
00:46:45how they are making the material,
00:46:47what material they are using,
00:46:49how much corruption is there,
00:46:51how much is whose share,
00:46:53I am not able to see this.
00:46:55But if the level of the road is going up,
00:46:57then everyone can see this.
00:46:59Exactly.
00:47:01The contractors who are laying the road
00:47:03plus the consultants on them,
00:47:05because no road is made without a consultant.
00:47:07If our government gives a tender to any contractor,
00:47:09then it is the responsibility of that consultant.
00:47:11Even those consultant companies
00:47:13are not doing any work.
00:47:15Let me give you a simple example,
00:47:17if in a washroom,
00:47:19the point near the shower,
00:47:21if it is 2 inches high,
00:47:23then how will you put the water
00:47:25of the washroom in it?
00:47:27So this is the reason
00:47:29that when it rains,
00:47:31the roads get wet.
00:47:33Look, in the current situation of Karachi,
00:47:35if you call Japan and ask them to make roads,
00:47:37they will finish in 2 rains.
00:47:39Because until the level of the road is maintained,
00:47:41the system of the road is
00:47:43that the road is made in a slope
00:47:45so that the water falls.
00:47:47The water should not come on the road.
00:47:49The water should not come on the road.
00:47:51You have pointed out two aspects in this.
00:47:53One is that we do not have stormwater drainage.
00:47:55Even if it is made at a level,
00:47:57you are saying that the system has collapsed,
00:47:59then how will it work?
00:48:01What do we do now?
00:48:03As soon as it rains,
00:48:05the people of the area open their gutters.
00:48:07When that water goes into the gutter,
00:48:09the gutter flows ahead.
00:48:11Then the rainwater
00:48:13comes along with the gutter water on the road
00:48:15and collapses the whole road
00:48:17because it does not have a proper drainage system.
00:48:19That water stays for 1 day, 2 days, 3 days.
00:48:21Because of which the road above is damaged.
00:48:23Now I saw in your report
00:48:25that there are potholes in many places in Karachi.
00:48:27Yes, there are potholes.
00:48:29Our infrastructure,
00:48:31the Sewerage line,
00:48:33was built here on the road.
00:48:35The jointing of the pipes was not proper.
00:48:37Because of which
00:48:39the internal leakages continued.
00:48:41The base soil
00:48:43was softened
00:48:45and mud was formed.
00:48:47The settlement continued.
00:48:49When there was a lot of water,
00:48:51the road collapsed.
00:48:53Thank God,
00:48:55you criticized the contractors.
00:48:57Otherwise, because of stormwater drainage,
00:48:59many people sat in front of the TV and said,
00:49:01it is not our fault.
00:49:03It is the fault of stormwater drainage.
00:49:05Now what is the solution?
00:49:07What can be done for such a big city?
00:49:09We have seen that in Karachi,
00:49:11our DHA
00:49:13has changed
00:49:15the entire infrastructure.
00:49:17We all see the DHA.
00:49:19They have completely
00:49:21redistributed the stormwater drainage.
00:49:23After the era of Mustafa Kamal,
00:49:25the recent stormwater drainage
00:49:27in DHA
00:49:29in which it rained a few years ago,
00:49:31the residents of DHA
00:49:33drowned in it.
00:49:35After that,
00:49:37NED University surveyed
00:49:39the entire DHA.
00:49:41Right now, Karachi needs
00:49:43a consultant company
00:49:45or a survey of Pakistan
00:49:47or NED University
00:49:49to survey Karachi again
00:49:51and inform the government
00:49:53to put roads on levels.
00:49:55Otherwise,
00:49:57we see that
00:49:59roads are being built
00:50:01every year.
00:50:03Didn't the government ask for a proposal
00:50:05to inform the engineers of Karachi?
00:50:07If the government
00:50:09was so kind and thoughtful,
00:50:11we would have exported
00:50:13to other countries
00:50:15and Pakistan would not be in this state.
00:50:17This is also a good economy.
00:50:19How much does it grow?
00:50:21Roads are being built every year.
00:50:23Tenders are being made.
00:50:25Roads are being built every year.
00:50:27Let me tell you something interesting.
00:50:29In Karachi,
00:50:31roads are being built
00:50:33every year
00:50:35in May and June.
00:50:37In June,
00:50:39the fiscal year ends
00:50:41and the budget of tenders
00:50:43ends in June.
00:50:45In July,
00:50:47the monsoon comes
00:50:49and all the roads are built.
00:50:51This happens every year.
00:50:53Even then,
00:50:55there are no levels.
00:50:57What is the use of levels
00:50:59in July?
00:51:01Exactly.
00:51:03I have a friend
00:51:05who is a civil engineer.
00:51:07We were talking about
00:51:09roads being built
00:51:11and there was no level.
00:51:13We were sad
00:51:15that our money is being spent on roads.
00:51:17What can we do?
00:51:19You can be active on social media.
00:51:21You can say anything you want.
00:51:23You can say anything you want.
00:51:25You can say anything you want.
00:51:27Thank you so much.
00:51:29Thank you so much.
00:51:31We got clarity.
00:51:33We knew about stormwater drainage
00:51:35but we didn't know about levels.
00:51:37Thank you for sharing this idea.
00:51:39Let's give another news.
00:51:41The government has decided
00:51:43to move bus stops from Karachi
00:51:45and to give free shuttle service
00:51:47to passengers.
00:51:49The senior minister of Sindh,
00:51:51Sharjeel Inam Memon,
00:51:53has decided to move bus stops
00:51:55out of the city.
00:51:57Sanjay Sadwani is with us.
00:51:59Let's ask him about this.
00:52:01Sanjay, tell us
00:52:03what has been planned?
00:52:05The senior minister of Sindh,
00:52:07Sharjeel Inam Memon,
00:52:09has convened a meeting
00:52:11and has decided
00:52:13to move bus stops
00:52:15from Karachi city
00:52:17out of the city.
00:52:19Sharjeel Inam Memon
00:52:21has said that
00:52:23bus stops should be
00:52:25provided to passengers
00:52:27who are in need.
00:52:29Free shuttle service
00:52:31will be provided
00:52:33to passengers
00:52:35who are in need.
00:52:37Free shuttle service
00:52:39will be provided
00:52:41to passengers
00:52:43who are in need.
00:52:45The government
00:52:47has decided
00:52:49to move bus stops
00:52:51out of the city
00:52:53to provide free shuttle service
00:52:55to passengers.
00:52:57Where will the shuttle service
00:52:59start?
00:53:01In Sadar,
00:53:03Al Karim Square
00:53:05and other squares.
00:53:07The shuttle service
00:53:09will start in Sadar.
00:53:11The bus stops
00:53:13in Sadar
00:53:15will be provided
00:53:17to passengers
00:53:19who are in need.
00:53:21The shuttle service
00:53:23will be provided
00:53:25to passengers
00:53:27who are in need.
00:53:29The shuttle service
00:53:31will be provided
00:53:33to passengers
00:53:35who are in need.
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01:03:05Let's move ahead to our segment.
01:03:07Let's move ahead to our segment.
01:03:09Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:11Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:13Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:15Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:17Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:19Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:21Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:23Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:25Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:27Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:29Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:31Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:33Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:35Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:37Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:39Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:41Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:43Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:45Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:47Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:49Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:51Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:53Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:55Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:57Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:03:59Let's meet a girl who has many hobbies.
01:04:01How was your journey so far?
01:04:03And how was it to travel on a bike?
01:04:05When you travel in a car,
01:04:07sometimes you feel scared.
01:04:09So, was it easier for you to travel on a bike?
01:04:11Especially when it was raining.
01:04:15A foreigner came here.
01:04:17And he said that
01:04:19when you travel in a car,
01:04:21you watch a movie.
01:04:23But when you travel on a bike,
01:04:25you are inside the movie.
01:04:27Okay.
01:04:29I have always wanted to travel.
01:04:31I have always wanted to travel.
01:04:33Traveling and riding a bike
01:04:35was a golden opportunity for me.
01:04:37I wanted to travel on a bike.
01:04:39I wanted to travel the world.
01:04:41I wanted to meet people.
01:04:43I wanted to travel.
01:04:45But considering our society,
01:04:47if a girl rides a bike,
01:04:49everyone starts looking at her.
01:04:51It is a rare thing for them.
01:04:53It is a rare thing for them.
01:04:55A girl is riding a bike.
01:04:57You have travelled from one city to another in Pakistan.
01:04:59What difficulties did you face?
01:05:01How did your family accept you?
01:05:03How did they allow you to travel?
01:05:05It was very difficult
01:05:07to convince my family.
01:05:09I think it is difficult to convince them.
01:05:11They are the most important.
01:05:13But now, I have a lot of support from my family.
01:05:15I thank my parents.
01:05:17They let me come here for a month.
01:05:19I have come here for a month.
01:05:21Very nice.
01:05:23Society still has
01:05:25very little acceptance.
01:05:27People talk.
01:05:29But most of the time,
01:05:31appreciation is more.
01:05:33In Lahore, it is quite common
01:05:35that girls ride scooters and bikes.
01:05:37You are riding a lot there.
01:05:39Yes.
01:05:41What difficulties do you face
01:05:43in such a journey?
01:05:45It must have been difficult, I guess.
01:05:47It has
01:05:49been difficult sometimes.
01:05:51Sometimes, it is easy.
01:05:53In the beginning,
01:05:55I didn't know how to ride a bike.
01:05:57I used to stand for a long time.
01:05:59I used to panic.
01:06:01Then I learned how to ride a bike.
01:06:03I thought it is necessary.
01:06:05If you are a solo traveler,
01:06:07you should know how to ride a bike.
01:06:09I haven't faced any problem
01:06:11with people.
01:06:13Whenever I give interviews,
01:06:15people ask me,
01:06:17how is it possible?
01:06:19But I haven't faced any problem
01:06:21I think your family
01:06:23has given you permission
01:06:25to go there for a month.
01:06:27Despite being a remote area,
01:06:29the roads are still manageable.
01:06:31Visit Karachi
01:06:33and get permission from your family.
01:06:35Then you will know how to ride a bike.
01:06:39Can you hear me?
01:06:41Sorry.
01:06:43I thought you were asking a question.
01:06:45My voice got distorted.
01:06:47I was saying that
01:06:49I have got permission from my family.
01:06:51But the roads are still manageable.
01:06:53If you visit Karachi,
01:06:55you will see that
01:06:57the roads are still manageable.
01:06:59The roads are still manageable.
01:07:01The roads are still manageable.
01:07:03You might not get permission from your family.
01:07:07I had planned to go to Sindh once.
01:07:09My father told me
01:07:11that it is not possible.
01:07:13But I plan to go to Sindh
01:07:15in the coming years.
01:07:17With the group.
01:07:21You do sketching
01:07:23and work in short films.
01:07:25What is your identity?
01:07:27What do you want to be?
01:07:31I want to be a traveler
01:07:33and an artist.
01:07:35I feel that
01:07:37my art
01:07:39is not in isolation.
01:07:41When you look around,
01:07:43meet people,
01:07:45see colors,
01:07:47see flowers,
01:07:49see plants,
01:07:51see people,
01:07:53your art is influenced.
01:07:55My art is influenced.
01:07:57I am an artist.
01:07:59You get a chance to learn.
01:08:01Just like any other profession,
01:08:03artists are without borders.
01:08:05Have you ever thought
01:08:07that you will travel
01:08:09outside Pakistan?
01:08:11Absolutely.
01:08:13In a few years,
01:08:15I will be traveling
01:08:17through borders on my bike.
01:08:21What are your future plans?
01:08:23Where do you want to travel?
01:08:27I want to go to Sindh.
01:08:29I have traveled a lot in the north.
01:08:31But I haven't gone
01:08:33to the south or Sindh.
01:08:35I want to go to Sindh,
01:08:37Gwadar, Hyderabad.
01:08:39I want to travel
01:08:41all over the world.
01:08:43I hope my parents agree.
01:08:45I want to travel a lot.
01:08:47How important is it
01:08:49to update your bike?
01:08:51Your bike must be comfortable.
01:08:53But these days,
01:08:55you don't even feel tired
01:08:57while riding a bike.
01:09:01Do you plan on updating your bike?
01:09:03Yes, of course.
01:09:05I have a deal
01:09:07that I want to take a trail.
01:09:09I want to take a trail
01:09:11wherever I can.
01:09:13Sometimes it rains,
01:09:15sometimes it rains.
01:09:17So, I want to take a trail.
01:09:19Inshallah.
01:09:23Best of luck.
01:09:27Thank you for being with us.
01:09:29As you can see,
01:09:31she is doing her best
01:09:33to fulfill her passion.
01:09:35She is directly from Hunza.
01:09:37So, girls are also
01:09:39making great progress.
01:09:41MashaAllah.
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01:11:59What is the news?
01:12:00What is the news?
01:12:01That is...
01:12:02Chalain jee.
01:12:03Islamabad se khabar hai jee.
01:12:04Khabar aap tak pauncha dete hain.
01:12:05Basically, waqia jo pesh aaya hai usse mutaalik hum aapko bataa dete hain.
01:12:06Khabar hai Islamabad sector I-9 ke plaza mein bank mein aag lag gayi hai aur aag bujhane
01:12:07ke liye amdaadi teamon ko talab kar liya gaya hai.
01:12:08Aur yeh sector I-9 hai aur zahir hai ki yeh I-9 aur yeh bank mein aag lag gayi hai.
01:12:09Aur yeh sector I-9 hai aur zahir hai ki yeh I-9 aur yeh bank mein aag lag gayi hai.
01:12:10Aur yeh sector I-9 hai aur zahir hai ki yeh I-9 aur yeh I-9 marqas bhi yahaan par kareeb
01:12:34hui hai aur yahaan par fire brigade ko talab kar liya gaya.
01:12:36I am sure ke wahaan par fire safety ke arrangements bhi hunge lekin iske baaujood kya waja rahi
01:12:41aag lagne ki yeh abhi baad mein pata chalega.
01:12:43Lekin Allah karein ke ismein koi jaani nukhsaan na ho.
01:12:47Chalain jee.
01:12:48Chalain jee to duniya bhar mein Pakistan samayet duniya bhar mein yeh jo August ka first
01:12:56week hai.
01:12:57Yeh breast feeding week ke taur par manaya jaata hai taake jo maa ka dood hai wo bachon
01:13:02ke liye kitna zaruri hai iski ehmiyat ko ujaga kiya jaa sake.
01:13:06Ab World Health Organisation ke mutaabik bachay ko paidaish ke fauri baat maa ka dood dena
01:13:11zaruri hai.
01:13:12Aur jin bachon ko fauri taur par maa ka dood mein aasar nahi hota unmein ek saal ki umar
01:13:16se pehle maut ka khatra 14 guna bar jaata hai.
01:13:20Isi tariqah se mukhtalif stages bhi discuss ki gayi hai aur aalmi sihhat ki ek report
01:13:25hi batati hai ke mulk mein sirf 37.7% maaen paidaish ke 6 maa tak bachon ko apna dood
01:13:32bilati hai.
01:13:33Chale ji toh iski wujuhat kya hai aur jab aap zahir hai ke agar ek saal mein itne khataraat
01:13:39maujood hai aur khaas taur par yeh jo dabbe aa rahe hota hai unko par likha bhi hota hai
01:13:43ki yeh maa ke dood ka naimal badal nahi hai aur bachay ke liye itni zarurat hai toh kya
01:13:47wajah hai ki yeh ratio itni kam hai.
01:13:49There must be a reason toh is par baat kar lete hain humare saath maujood hai Dr. Khalid
01:13:52Shafi sahab, Associate Professor, Secretary General hai Pakistan Pediatric Association.
01:13:56Thank you so much for joining us.
01:13:58Yeh mujhe batayiye ga kya wajah hai?
01:14:01Waise toh har cheez ke hum options talash kar lete hain, naimal badal bana lete hain,
01:14:07lekin blood abhi tak nahi bana paye hum log aur maa ka dood nahi bana paye, uska naimal
01:14:13badal ke taur par deoori jo cheezein hoti hain wo itni behtar nahi hoti, tamam ter cheezein
01:14:17ke baujood.
01:14:18Kya wajah hai uske?
01:14:19Dekhein ji maa ka dood jo hai kudarti ghaza hai aur yeh bachay ke liye kudrat ka nizam
01:14:24hai, jitni bhi species hoti hain, jaanwar bhi hoti hain, unka dood unke liye hota hai,
01:14:28toh insaan ke liye maa ka dood behtiran ghaza hai, mukamal ghaza hai, 6 saal tak ke bachay
01:14:32ke liye, iska naimal badal mumkin nahi hai.
01:14:34Yeh jo dibbo mein ban jo cheezein milti hain, hargiz, hargiz dood nahi hai.
01:14:38Yeh artificial formula hai, pehli baat toh yeh.
01:14:41Doosri baat yeh, jaise aapne bahut achchi baat kahi, ke iske itni khatarat hain, lekin
01:14:45hum log is baat ko samashte kyon nahi hai.
01:14:47Yeh humare mulk mein bachon ki sharae waad duniya mein takreban sabse zyada hai.
01:14:51Badi hi dardnag situation hai, ke humare yahan bacha seyitman pehda hota hai, lekin
01:14:55usko hum upar ka dood pilaate hain, teeka nahi lagate hai, bacha vimar hota hai,
01:14:59diarrhea, pneumonia aur humare mulk mein jo bachay pehda hote hain, unmein se
01:15:03ek saal ke andar jo infant mortality rate hai, wo takreban jo hai na, wo 50 se zyada hai.
01:15:08Oh.
01:15:09Yani yeh bachay pehli saalgirani manate hain, uski ek bahut badi wajah maa ka dood
01:15:13hai, yeh aisi situation hai, lekin iske baabjoot humare yahan yeh jo formula
01:15:17companies hain, unhone, chuke dood 500 rupee ka dabba agar padta hain, unko
01:15:212000 ka bejte hain, baaki marketing pe kharj karte hain, to ek aisi fiza ban gayi
01:15:25hai, ke humare jo maaye hain, jo humare health care workers hain, humara jo
01:15:29social media hain, wo promote karta hain maa ke dood ke lawa doosri cheezon ko.
01:15:33To bacha pehda hoti hi, maa kehti hain, jeh mujhe dood kaam aa raha hai, choti-choti
01:15:37mushkilat hoti hain, jihunko by ihsani health ke mashpare se dood kiya jaa sakta
01:15:40hai, aur jitne iske fayde hain, un faydoon ko agar maa ko bataya jaye, to maa kabhi
01:15:44bhi inkar nahi kehne ki apna dood pilana se. Aur even maa ke liye fayda mand hoti
01:15:48hai? Maa ke liye fayda, usko cancer se bachata hai, uska jo jismani harad, jo
01:15:52zajgi se pehle, wo wapis aajaati hai, to maa ke liye bhi fayda hai, bache ke liye
01:15:56bhi fayda hai, mulk ke liye bhi fayda hai, lekin humare yahan be lagaam humne
01:16:00chhoda hua hai, milk companies ko, taake yeh jisraan logon tarhi baat den,
01:16:04ghalat cheezin batayen, aur iske nitijay mein yeh hota hai, ke maa kab dood log
01:16:08kam pilate hain, upar kab dood pilate hain, humare hospital bhar rahe hain,
01:16:12pneumonia se, diarrhea se, sookhe kamar se, iski sabse badi wajah maa kab dood
01:16:16na pilana hai. Ekin aksar to doctor yeh recommend kar dete hain, bache payda
01:16:20hota hai, pura hue bana ke dete hain, usme mention kar dete hain, ji aapne is
01:16:24age se yeh pilana shuru kar dena hai. Nee, aesa nahi hai, doctors ko yeh
01:16:28allow nahi aesa karna, aur jo karte hain to ghalat karte hain, kuch indications
01:16:32jahan maa to dood nahi bhiya jaa sakta, wo bahut kam hai, bahut kam hai,
01:16:36jaise maa ko koi aesi treatment mil rahi hai, khudana khasta jaise cancer ki
01:16:40treatment mil rahi hai, jaundice mein bhi bana nahi hai, radio active medicine
01:16:44mil rahi hai, koi out of the way aesi cheezein hoti hain, jo bahut kam hai,
01:16:48baaki tamam se yeh mein, even jab operation hota hai, C-section aaj kar
01:16:52bahut hote hain, unmein bhi maa mukamal taur pe aapne dood pila sakti hain.
01:16:56Yeh cheezin yeh hai, yeh hospitals hain, even private hospitals hain, government
01:16:58mein bhi yeh bakayda yeh sawale se seminar hua tha, toh usmein yeh bhi bataya gaya tha
01:17:02ke bachon ke sabse pehle suction check karte hain, ke wo kis tariqe se kar sakte hain,
01:17:06maaon ko ispe enforce kiya jaata hai, ke aap karein, aur time guzaarein, aur saath
01:17:10mein jo lady workers hoti hain, unko support bhi karte hain sare maaon mein.
01:17:14Dekhi ji yeh jahan bacha pehda hota hai, us health facility ki zimmedaari hai,
01:17:16ke wo apne amlae ko tarbiyat de, taake maa ko support provide karein, aur yeh
01:17:20haqoomat ki zimmedaari hai, ke wo aisa mahaul pehda karein, jahan maa ko bachay ka dood
01:17:24pilaane ki targheeb di jaye, dusi targheeb na di jaye.
01:17:26Sindh ke andar, Sindh Breastfeeding Promotion Protection Act 2023 pass ho gaya hai,
01:17:32upar ka dood ka ishtihar dena, dood to dusri baat hai, jo bachon ko weaning articles hote,
01:17:38cheezein deti hain, jo ghizaayi cheezein deti hain, 3 saal ki ubar tak, uska bhi TV par
01:17:42Sindh ke province mein ishtihar nahi diya jaa sakta, yeh kanunan jurm hain.
01:17:46Isi tarah, jo health facility mein milk company ke numayende nahi daakhil ho sakta, yeh bhi jurm hain.
01:17:51Isi tarah, agar koi healthcare provider, koi doctor kisi ko bagayar wajah ke dood likh ke deta hai bachay ko,
01:17:56yeh bhi jurm hain. In sab ki sazaaye aur in ke upar penalties sejwis ki dehiye.
01:18:00Toh koi jeh thos ghazaaye di jaati hain, aksar uske bhi ad aare hote hain, wo recommended baat?
01:18:04Yeh wo bhi mann hai, dekhi yeh targheebaat, hamara mul jo hai, hamari mawashi haalat itni
01:18:08achhi nahi hain, hamari jo average income hai, itni achhi nahi hain, yeh 200 gram ka jo
01:18:12dabba hai, yeh 400-600 rupay ka milta hai, wohi cheez ham ghar mein bohot achhi tariqe se
01:18:17bana sakte hain, baghar kisi kharjik ke. Yeh agar wo aasaan padta hai. Aasaan padta hai,
01:18:20seyitmand hota hai, usme ghazaayat zyada hoti hai, yeh practical hai, aur usme contamination
01:18:25nahi hoti hai, bahar ki cheezin nahi jaati hai, paani nahi doosra dalta hai, jiski wajah
01:18:29se hamara bachay seyitmand rahta hai. Toh bachay ko 6 mehne ke umar tak maa ka dood pilaayen,
01:18:336 mehne ke baad dood ke khaat thos ghazaaye jo ghar mein ham asaani se bana sakte hain,
01:18:38woh dijiye. Yeh ek aur cheez hai, yeh 6 mehne tak jo hai, waise toh 2 saal ya 2.5 saal,
01:18:43depending on. Nahi nahi, 2 saal ki umar tak maa ko bachay ko apna dood pilaana chahiye,
01:18:47lekin uske saath thos ghazaa deni chahiye. Thos ghazaa. Acha main yeh arz kar raha tha,
01:18:51uske andar baaz okaad yeh 6 mehne ke hattak bhi paani saath mein dete hain, ya paani pilaane
01:18:55ki koshish karte hain, is that right? Nahi nahi nahi, right nahi hai bilkul, paidaayi
01:18:59se leke 6 mehne tak umar tak, bachay ke liye maa ka dood mukammal ghaza hai, bachay ko
01:19:09sehat karana chahiye, usme munasib paani maujood hai. Maa ki sehat ka kitna taaluk hai,
01:19:12kitni achi sehat hogi maa ki toh, isse park padega? Sehat ka, bachay ki sehat ka maa ki
01:19:17sehat saath baray raas taaluk hai, agar maa ki sehat achi hogi toh bachay bhi sehatman
01:19:21paida hoga, uska madan bhi theek hoga, maa feed bhi karayegi, toh pehli cheez yeh hai
01:19:25ki maa ki sehat ka bhi khayal rakha jaye, maa ki ghaza ka bhi khayal rakha jaye, nah
01:19:30sehat ka khayal rakha jaye, balki uske saath deekar saloog, jisse kehte hai na, zehni
01:19:33taur bhi bhi usko stress na diya jaye, yeh bhi ek zaruri hai.
01:19:37Achha ek aur cheez bhi mujhe yeh batayiye ga, hum logon ki aadat hai ki humare paas har
01:19:41dawa over the counter available hoti hai, especially antibiotics agar hum use karte
01:19:45hain, toh iska bachay ko dood pidhane se koi taaluk hai, ya yeh jitna bharatna chahiye
01:19:51in dawaon se, ya kya?
01:19:52Dekhi, pehli baat yeh ki bachay ko maa ka dood pilana chahiye, doosre dood ki zarood
01:19:56nahi, jahan koi medical indications hai agar wahan dood diya jaata hai, toh doctors
01:20:00ko maloom hota hai ki kuch dawaayin aisi hoti hain, jo maa ko agar deejayen toh bachay
01:20:04ko dood nahi pilaya jaa sakta, lekin in dawaayin ko, jaise maine kahna cancer ki treatment
01:20:08ki dawaayin hain, wo deejayen toh dood nahi, iske laaba aam dawaayin jo hain, wo aam
01:20:12taur par ispe koi aise asraat nahi ho.
01:20:14Alright.
01:20:15Thank you so much, Dr. Khalid humaye saath the aur yeh...
01:20:18I'm shukr, kaafi.
01:20:19...jo hafta manaya jaa rahe hai, se waale se, aham malumat share.
01:20:21Clarity is se aayi hogi.
01:20:22Challenge hai.
01:20:23Challenge hai.
01:20:24Updates hain, wo aapke saath share kar lete hain.
01:20:25Governor Sindh, Kamran Tesori se Additional IG Javed Alamodo ne mulaqat ki hai aur mulaqat
01:20:31me Amna Aman ke qayam, street crime ke khatme aur police ke istidaad barhane par guftagu
01:20:36hui.
01:20:37Governor ne kaha, street crimes ne shehriyon ki zindagi jeeran bana di hai, cameras aur
01:20:42intelligence rababit mustaikam karne se mulzimaan ki girefth mumkin hai, shehar me police gash,
01:20:47naaka bandi aur snap checking badhai jaye.
01:20:53Chalain jee, ab waqt aage hai aapse ajazat chahane ka.
01:20:56Aaj sub se baaris halki pulki Karachi me ho rahi hai, toh I'm sure ke weather jo hai
01:21:00wo kaafi acha rahega.
01:21:01Toh aap apna khayal rakhiye, mausam enjoy kichiye aur bila zarurat baar na niklayen.
01:21:05Haan, apna bhi khayal rakhiye, dooson ka bhi khayal rakhiye.
01:21:07Apne khasja pe khush rahein.
01:21:08Toh aapse ajazat chahate hain.
01:21:09Allah Hafiz.
01:21:10Allah Hafiz.
01:21:17Allah Hafiz.
01:21:18Allah Hafiz.

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