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00:00Feel how you want, but don't tell me you're lions free when you're watching him.
00:04Boy, but I mean, paying attention, reading the papers, calling into a radio show.
00:10I'm impressed with the commitment.
00:12He was committed.
00:13248-539-9797.
00:14Bill is next here on 97.1 The Ticket.
00:18Hi, Bill.
00:19Good afternoon.
00:20Or good.
00:21Yeah.
00:22Afternoon.
00:23How you doing, gentlemen?
00:24Morning.
00:25Mike.
00:26Mike and I can pretty much be brothers.
00:28Sorry to say, Gator, just because, yeah, we, I pay attention to him and I despise him
00:34just as Mike does.
00:36I'm not, your definition of lions free and my definition of lions free are different,
00:41I guess.
00:42I'm not free of the lions.
00:43I just, I hate the organization, what they've done to their fans for 60 years, what they
00:47did to Barry and to Calvin, the two Hall of Famers that they've had.
00:52Well, I think they've got one more, but anyways, what they've done to those guys and the only
00:56reason they've got them back on their side is so they can help promote the team.
01:02Do you?
01:03What they've done to us for 60 years.
01:05Go ahead.
01:06Can you, like, is there a degree of saying, well, there's new people in charge, I can
01:10be forgiving and give them a shot?
01:13I just, I can't get over it.
01:16I'm like the previous guy.
01:17I'm 65.
01:19I lived through 60 years and I mean, we can go on and on with some of the things that
01:23they've done as an organization.
01:25What else do you hold a grudge against?
01:27Like what else in life has you making an absolute statement?
01:31Like I'm not going to root for this team anymore.
01:34Do you have to have other things in life to do the same thing?
01:36It's not just the lions.
01:37I'm just curious what those other things are.
01:40I don't think I have Gator.
01:42That can't be.
01:43This is, it can't be.
01:44You're just dealing in absolutes right here where somebody, you're saying that the organization,
01:49because the family that owned the team, that they, they ruined Barry and they ruined Calvin,
01:53that that's it.
01:54You're done with them.
01:56You're, you'll never get away from it.
01:57Even though, you know, Sheila's doing a fantastic job with his team and you're going to refuse
02:01to acknowledge any of that.
02:04There has to be other things in life.
02:06Why not get back on board?
02:09Because I just, what they've done, it's just not the Barry and Calvin.
02:13They've done so many things.
02:14That's in the past.
02:15Can't you look and see what's been new?
02:17When you say they, that's not Sheila Ford Hamp.
02:20That's not Dan Campbell.
02:21That's not Brad Holmes.
02:23That's not, these are new people.
02:26It's, it's their egos.
02:27The father, the father killed the team, gave it to his son.
02:32The son killed the team, gave it to the mother, the son gave up the team, and I gave her,
02:38you know, the opportunity to do what she's doing.
02:40Yeah.
02:41She's doing a lot of great things and I hate every one of them.
02:44And like Mike said, I hate it.
02:48Because they're winning.
02:49Is that, is how stubborn is that?
02:52How stubborn and stupid is that?
02:55Gator, you call it what you want, but that's, that's just me.
02:57I'm sorry.
02:58That's why I'm asking.
02:59It has to be other things that you feel this way about too.
03:01Somebody does something that is so reprehensible in your life and you refuse to give that up.
03:08Nobody's done this for 60 years.
03:11How about the last four?
03:13True commitment.
03:14I gotta be honest with you.
03:15A part of me definitely respects the last two callers and their commitment.
03:17No, I'm serious.
03:18And I'm serious with this.
03:19Like Gator, you watch a lot of like Game of, you know, Game of Thrones, House of the Dragon,
03:23right?
03:25Yeah.
03:26Yeah.
03:27But the lineage, it doesn't matter.
03:28They hate the lineage.
03:29It does not matter what the rest of the kids, grandkids, all that stuff.
03:32That I don't respect.
03:33I don't respect that part.
03:35But this is where it's, this is how deep it is.
03:37My point is they don't care that that's not the same person.
03:40I think like you, it's kind of funny to say it's, it's interesting to see how these people
03:46are that committed to it.
03:48But when it comes to like what you're putting, it's the lineage.
03:51When you see somebody that's clearly different in the way that they're handling things as
03:55the owner of the team, and you're not going to give that any credence because simply the
04:01bloodline, well, the last name was Ford for a while before she got married, I can't, that's
04:07just so stupid.
04:08No, they're actually, it's, it's not treating people differently and people are different.
04:12Everyone's different.
04:13Yeah.
04:14I think actually the last call I gave him credit just doesn't want, doesn't like it,
04:18you know?
04:19I guess, you know what part of this is?
04:21I don't think it's healthy.
04:24I'll get some feedback every once in a while that says, I hate you guys at 97.1 and I might
04:31respond to somebody and say, what did I say?
04:34And they'll say, all you guys just talk about is something and it might be nothing that
04:38we're talking about.
04:39And I go, well, I didn't say that.
04:40And they go, yeah, but you're all the same.
04:42And I'm like, are we?
04:45Like guilt by association.
04:46Yeah.
04:47I mean, shouldn't, would you, how would, I don't know.
04:51The frustration is real.
04:53The fact that there's somebody new in charge that is hired, that's brought in Brad Holmes,
04:58the most competent Lions GM we've seen in our lifetime.
05:02That's brought in Dan Campbell.
05:04I mean, this happened under Sheila's watch.
05:08Should she be judged, you know, for, uh, for, for what she's done.
05:17I guess I, are you, when, when people say things like that, then the previous couple
05:23of callers, Calvin and Barry, right?
05:25Big thing.
05:26Barry quit.
05:27You just couldn't, didn't want to play anymore.
05:29Right.
05:30And a lot of it had to do with organizational stuff.
05:33Calvin quit, his body broke down on him.
05:35That wasn't the organization.
05:36It was his body that made him say, I'm done.
05:39I can't play anymore.
05:42And then had both players had issues with the, with the team because of money that was
05:46owed to them or the money that they, that the team wanted back and signing bonus because
05:51both didn't live out their contracts and they wanted the money back.
05:54And there was an issue with that.
05:55And I can understand that why people would be upset with that.
05:58The fact that both players have worked out those issues.
06:02And now I don't think that Calvin did it, the Calvin reconciled with the team and that
06:08reconciliation is only just for the Lions benefit.
06:11I think it's for the benefit of all fans, really more so than anything else.
06:14The fact that Calvin has embraced this new organization, if you will, this is completely
06:22different than what it was 10 years ago when Bill Ford senior on the team, completely different
06:29than what it was when Bill Ford jr. took over the team.
06:32This is, you know, things changed kind of dramatically when Martha took over.
06:37And then when Martha ceded the team to her daughter, it's such a different ball game.
06:41And I, I, I feel sorry for people like the last two callers that refused to, to give
06:48that regime a chance simply because Ford's in the name.
06:51I just, and I think about guys that have a response with it, like Spielman who doesn't
06:55love Spielman.
06:56Spielman's had some influence here.
06:57Who doesn't love Jared golf and the way he's embraced this, this California kid who probably
07:03didn't want to be here has come to a more of an organization and help resurrect them
07:07and has made Detroit like, he loves it here now and speak glowing.
07:12He was on a podcast the other day, the Taylor one, whatever that thing's called.
07:15And he was going, yeah, Detroit, it matters.
07:17This is so much fun to be a part of.
07:19And like, this is, there's so much that's, that's awesome about him now.
07:25I feel like the last two colors are completely missing out.
07:28Like hanging on to real anger to refusing to let it go.
07:33I don't, I don't, I don't see how that could possibly be helped.
07:35We'll get to more of your phone calls and feedback coming up 97 one, the ticket.