"Shehbaz Sharif Nay Aaj Khushamad Ki Intiha Kardi", Mustafa Nawaz Khokar's analysis on PM's speech

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00:00Is Imran Khan playing with the government's position?
00:21Imran Khan is Imran Khan.
00:23And I think he doesn't worry about his consistent position.
00:28Because people will say, six months ago you said something else, now you are saying something else.
00:33Because he believes in one thing, that his followers will not go from one place to another.
00:39Irrespective of whatever he comes up with.
00:41Sometimes people think, even the good analysts, yesterday I was listening to Malik on a TV channel,
00:48he was giving his point of view.
00:50He said, what position have you changed?
00:52In regards to 9th May.
00:54In most channels, it seemed that a lot of positions have changed, special programs have started.
00:59What did Imran Khan say?
01:01So, Imran Khan, I think, doesn't care much.
01:04I will tell you, yesterday I said the same thing, looking at this statement that Khan sir made.
01:08You said, what position have you changed?
01:10Before this, when it comes to apologizing, people say, apologize to me, why should I apologize to anyone?
01:13What have I done?
01:15The first time he said this, he didn't change his conditions.
01:18All the conditions are the same.
01:20I said, if it was my mistake or my party's mistake, then I will apologize in their place.
01:24This is definitely a small shift in position.
01:27But if you look at it in detail, the statements that have been coming in the last 4-5 days.
01:30Articulation could have been different.
01:32If I was to advise him, on 9th May, that 9th May is a very sensitive day.
01:37There is no doubt about this.
01:39Everyone says that on 9th May, what happened should not have happened.
01:42So, if you make such an articulation, that I am as concerned about 9th May as any other Pakistani.
01:48And including the army, on which most of the attacks took place.
01:52So, the best way is to make a judicial commission, in which everything is clear.
01:56He said the same thing again.
01:57He said, make a judicial commission, CCTV footage.
01:59No, but I am talking about his articulation.
02:01If this...
02:02He doesn't care, he doesn't care much.
02:06And that is true also.
02:08Nawaz Shiv, on the other hand, for example, or any other political leader who is usually there.
02:12He is very careful.
02:14He is so careful that nowadays he writes everything.
02:18You are laughing.
02:19You are a translator.
02:20When you were a translator, you used to write everything.
02:22No, no. He is careful.
02:24Your sensitive...
02:25Like there is a person from a foreign office, an ambassador, a foreign minister.
02:28There is a lot of difference between him and the Home Minister.
02:31The way you come out with a statement.
02:33Because you have to think before you speak.
02:36But Imran Khan doesn't care.
02:39Imran Khan is Imran Khan.
02:41And he feels that nothing sticks to him either.
02:43Yes, nothing sticks to him.
02:45So far, nothing has...
02:46Nothing has stuck to him.
02:47He did become a little unpopular in the government temporarily, but...
02:51How do you see Imran Khan's politics now from jail?
02:54Fahad Hussain has also joined us.
02:56Let's have a conversation with him after this.
02:58Kashif bhai, look, there is no doubt in this.
03:01Every morning when you wake up, you pick up the papers.
03:04The headlines in the newspapers are of Imran Khan.
03:08And the narrative setting, despite being in jail...
03:12They are doing it.
03:13They are doing it.
03:14In the evening, Imran Khan said this in a discussion on TV programs.
03:18Imran Khan said this in a conversation with journalists.
03:20Okay, what does this mean? What does that mean?
03:22Okay, they left without answering.
03:23Yes.
03:24That is also a headline.
03:25Now the problem is that the government has no story to tell.
03:28If the government had a story,
03:32then they would have brought up the narrative.
03:34Where, after many months, we got this news.
03:39A little while ago, there was a ruckus on TV.
03:41That Mian Nawaz Sharif sahib has become popular among the people.
03:44And the people are happy about it.
03:45This was going on on TV.
03:47The people were happy to see him in their midst.
03:50So, when Mian Nawaz Sharif sahib becomes so disconnected...
03:54He is the head of the Jamaat.
03:56Okay, his brother is the Prime Minister.
03:58His daughter is the Prime Minister.
04:00His son-in-law is the Deputy Prime Minister.
04:02But the class that is associated with him...
04:05The status he has in Pakistan's politics...
04:07People look at him as if he is going to say something.
04:09But he doesn't.
04:10He is silent on his part.
04:12Then, the Prime Minister...
04:14Today, his statement became a big adornment on the TV channel.
04:18In which, he once again exalted the welcome.
04:20Now, from now on...
04:23See, you tell me yourself.
04:25On one hand, the agenda and narrative is being set from there.
04:28And on the other hand, there is no story.
04:29No, there is no story.
04:30What else can he do?
04:31Yes, but...
04:32This is strange.
04:33But, let's leave it.
04:34There is also a rational way.
04:37But, when you are in this situation...
04:41Now, the government is not even able to deliver.
04:45Today, the issues of the people...
04:48Which, in my opinion, should be at the top of the discussion.
04:51They don't come into the conversation.
04:54Sir, I will tell you one more thing.
04:55Remember one thing.
04:56Mr. Fahad has come.
04:57Quick response in the end.
04:59There also.
05:00We are media practitioners.
05:01As soon as the government comes...
05:02Then, you follow the government.
05:04It is a natural course.
05:06That you follow the performance of the government.
05:08Electricity is expensive.
05:09The petrol pump has been dropped.
05:10These are the historical sentences used by the media.
05:13Even now, I am looking at all these channels.
05:15Nobody is talking about economy.
05:17And what are the circumstances.
05:18We are talking about politics.
05:20And we are talking about narratives.
05:21Frankly, I will tell you.
05:22The matter has gone beyond this.
05:24You can guess the seriousness of the situation.
05:26At present, 50% of Pakistan.
05:2950%.
05:30Half of the country has gone below the poverty line.
05:32Half of the country.
05:34This is a very big figure.
05:36And rising.
05:38And rising.
05:39The trend is not the other way around.
05:41People are not able to pay their electricity bill.
05:43They are not able to pay the gas bill.
05:44They are not able to run the expenses of the kitchen at home.
05:46They are not able to pay the school fees of the children.
05:48Now, the pulse survey report came.
05:5072% are Pakistani.
05:5250% have gone below the poverty line.
05:5472% Pakistani are not able to survive.
05:58So, in a country where this is the situation.
06:02It is a pity that we are not able to find a way out.
06:04This is not the focus of the debate.
06:06This is not the focus of the debate.
06:08The debate is still revolving around politics.
06:10Then we have to decide.
06:12Brother Kashif, the challenges are getting bigger.
06:14I saw a news in the newspaper a week or ten days ago.
06:19About the population.
06:21Whatever you touch in this country is out of hand.
06:24It has become a crisis.
06:26In 2047, if this population continues to grow.
06:3048 crores.
06:31We will reach 50 crores.
06:3340 crores.
06:34Now, where today's infrastructure.
06:37You are talking about real issues.
06:38Health, education.
06:39It has crumbled.
06:40The population of 25 crores is not able to handle this job.
06:43Sir, that day someone had to go to the biggest hospital in Islamabad, PIMS.
06:47I had to eventually go.
06:50Looking at the situation, does this happen with the poor in the country?
06:54We all know what happens.
06:56But the situation is bad.
06:57The government has always been like this.
06:58This is a new system.
07:00But we have to do it.
07:01The first responsibility of politicians.
07:03The first responsibility is on the people.
07:05We have to talk about their issues.
07:07We have to solve their problems.
07:09Health, education.
07:10You put the rest of the issues aside.
07:12Yesterday, I saw the news that there are riots in London.
07:16And in three days, three men were convicted and sent to jail.
07:22Three people.
07:24They even punished them.
07:26So, I was thinking that when there is a crisis, every institution responds.
07:32They feel responsible.
07:34Just stand up and get counted.
07:37I am here.
07:39They all think of it as a national duty.
07:42Our criminal legal system is in such a state that there is no justice in this country.
07:50Then there are multiple other factors.
07:52Our provincial fault lines.
07:54The protests in Balochistan.
07:56People's thoughts in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
07:58We are not able to come together on a platform on a big issue like terrorism.
08:03The protection of the Jamaat is not ending.
08:05And our focus is something else.
08:07Our focus is on politics.
08:09Politics.
08:10How to keep it under control.
08:12Don't let it come out.
08:13This is what we started discussing.

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