'Constitutional Package' set to see light of day? - Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar, Waseem Badami's Analysis

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00:00Raj, democracy is getting stronger when people will cast their vote on the voice of conscience.

00:04They won't sell it.

00:05They sell it when someone from our party goes against us.

00:08If there is a person from our opposing party, then that conscience doesn't get sold.

00:12Those decisions are made on the basis of conscience.

00:14You must be happy, thank God you left the party at a time when you don't have to defend these things.

00:20Thank God, I am satisfied.

00:23A few days ago, there was a Lawyers' Convention held by a senior member of our Islamabad Bar Council, Ali Mubassi.

00:39He had a very close friendship with the People's Party.

00:42Despite that, he participated in the convention and gave a speech.

00:46The President of the People's Party of the District of Islamabad, Mr. Shafil Abassi, who is also the President of the Bar Council, also participated in it.

00:53Mr. Abassi is standing properly.

00:56Today, a lot of people are understanding, despite being in their party,

01:03that why the People's Party has worn the crown of bringing about the failure of Muslim League Noon to bring about Christian reform.

01:13I think it is because of Prime Minister Aglaib Bilawar.

01:15Whatever the motivations are,

01:17Can there be any other motivations?

01:19I saw a press statement of Mr. Raza Rabbani.

01:24Mr. Raza was a senior parliamentarian.

01:30He has done a lot for the 18th Ayn-e-Tarmeem.

01:34He has also served as Chairman of the Senate.

01:36We are also in favour of those things across the party lines.

01:40He has said in the People's Party that you cannot bring about the Ayn-e-Tarmeem by taking renegade votes.

01:46If you do, you will make it controversial.

01:48On the one hand, people around you, people in your party, want you not to go in this direction.

01:56And this Ayn-e-Tarmeem...

02:00You remember, you have mentioned Mr. Raza, Mr. Koker.

02:04Mr. Raza Rabbani had voted for the Military Court.

02:08He had cried his eyes out.

02:10If we can get it out, in the same Senate.

02:12But he had also said that his vote is in the hands of his party.

02:15Yes, that's right.

02:16But is this vote only in the hands of the Kuswa Party when you are from the People's Party?

02:20Almiya is with all political parties.

02:25Are you worried that Mr. Bilawar is on this path?

02:29I am sad. I am sad, frankly.

02:31And I am sad because I have been very supportive of his thinking.

02:38But in the past few years, there has been a transition

02:43in which the politics of the People's Party has gone towards power politics.

02:49It has its own arguments.

02:52But I think that if Mr. Bilawar wants to revive the party in Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,

03:00then the politics that is needed to revive it,

03:04he is not doing it today.

03:06He is doing it with the kind of politics that some people in the party have put him on this track.

03:11That, sir, do this work.

03:14Those people are sitting in good positions today.

03:16So, whatever is outside.

03:18They say, I have a position, now it's your turn.

03:20If you do this work, you will get a position.

03:22So, I can only hope and want that the People's Party

03:26is a liberal progressive thinking party.

03:30In Pakistan's politics, its voice should be a loud voice.

03:35It should be.

03:36And that loud voice should also remain.

03:39Sir, let me say, Waseem, you tell me your view on this.

03:43You are surprised, but let me say before I say that.

03:46That with the governance of the People's Party or with politics,

03:49you will have 10,000 differences with the politics of every political party.

03:52Like when I said the royal family,

03:54see, Imran Khan's sisters are also party leaders,

03:58that's why we are talking.

03:59No one talks about ordinary men and women here.

04:02And they are fighting.

04:03But whenever you talk about the constitution, law, democracy, human rights,

04:08or there was a time when there was talk of a blow to it,

04:11then you would immediately turn to the People's Party,

04:14that the People's Party will stand up.

04:16The People's Party will defend these things.

04:18The People's Party is with the democracy.

04:20The People's Party will stand with the constitution, law, morality,

04:24with these principles.

04:26Do you think the People's Party, Waseem, is standing there,

04:29or has it moved a little from its place?

04:34Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim.

04:35Obviously, it has moved, and it has moved a lot.

04:37And it is also regrettable.

04:38Because obviously, especially when you expect more from young politicians,

04:44the first shock or regret I had was that

04:48the way the mayor of Karachi was elected,

04:53he is a good friend of ours,

04:55but the way the whole thing happened,

04:57how can we support that?

04:59Where it was clear in the number game that the mayor of the People's Party cannot be elected,

05:04but on the day of the election, the X number of people did not come.

05:08They later openly said that we were not allowed to come.

05:10The election was held on that day, and the mayor of Karachi was elected.

05:13And today, we have an action replay of that.

05:16Unfortunately, it seems to the politicians of Pakistan that

05:20no one has learned a lesson from history.

05:22This is the history of the politicians of Pakistan.

05:25You were showing the old clips,

05:27you were giving the exact same signs

05:29that when the same thing happened with the People's Party,

05:31that someone voted against their party policy,

05:33they were saying that this is the back of the democracy,

05:36and today we are defending it.

05:37But let me tell you one more side, Waseem.

05:39Listen, look at the beneficiary of that time on TV,

05:42how Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf was celebrating,

05:45when at that time,

05:46you can see it on your screen,

05:48when at that time,

05:49when there were 14 people who had returned in protest,

05:52they had saved Sadiq Sanjrani as chairman of the senate.

05:56You can see the bench of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf at that time.

06:01You can see their side, their floor.

06:03Celebrations are being celebrated.

06:05So at that time, those who were celebrating,

06:07today they are standing on the other side.

06:08At that time, those who were on the receiving end,

06:10those who thought that there was a knife in the back of the democracy,

06:14today they have come to the other side.

06:16That's the irony.

06:19I was going to say exactly what you said.

06:22You can see the statements of PTI at that time.

06:24They used to sit in tandem with me and your talk show and say,

06:27what happened?

06:28He is not a beggar.

06:29He is a conscience.

06:30They used to clap in tandem.

06:32And at that time,

06:33Hasil Badeenjiu sir had said in the name of the DG at that time,

06:37when he was asked about the parliament's intentions,

06:39what has happened?

06:40He said, this is general Faiz's Faiz.

06:42So it was clear at that time as well,

06:43what was happening.

06:44And PTI didn't know.

06:45PTI used to celebrate.

06:46They used to clap.

06:47They used to say, did you see our strategy?

06:48Did you see?

06:49This is the conscience of the people.

06:50So no one taught this lesson.

06:51Who is more related to Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar?

06:54Who is more related to him?

06:55They had taken out the camera.

06:57Isn't it amazing that the election,

06:59exactly,

07:00that the camera came out from inside.

07:01The day before yesterday,

07:02when I met him,

07:03that sir, the camera that came out,

07:04which was a dangerous incident of its own,

07:06what happened to it?

07:08He told me that his committee was formed.

07:10I said, then?

07:11He said, the meeting did not take place.

07:12I asked, not a single meeting took place.

07:14That is, it takes place for our satisfaction.

07:16It did not happen.

07:17Tomorrow, when you will celebrate the camera coming out,

07:19and will remain silent on it,

07:21then today,

07:22entering the parliament,

07:23Zain Qureshi will also get up.

07:25Tomorrow, when you will laugh at IG's ignorance,

07:29that yes,

07:30I don't know,

07:31I'm just kidding.

07:32Then today,

07:33CM will also be ignorant.

07:34It was wrong then,

07:35it is wrong now.

07:36And then the matter will continue to move forward.

07:37The politicians should realize this high time.

07:39But history is telling that

07:40no one is ready to learn a lesson.

07:42The lessons are so fine.

07:43No one learns, Hussain.

07:44And our country's problem is that

07:45it will continue like this.

'Constitutional Package' set to see light of day? - Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar, Waseem Badami's Analysis

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