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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, ladies and gentlemen.
00:02Happy 77th Independence Day to all of you.
00:05You must have seen the coverage of this day.
00:08It is celebrated with great enthusiasm and passion.
00:10Last night I saw this enthusiasm and passion on the streets.
00:13It seemed that there is no law.
00:15Just like cars and motorcyclists enjoy from here and there.
00:18Well, there is a day that they enjoy.
00:21But if you look at what we have done with this country in the last 77 years,
00:25then we have brought the country to a place where everyone is debating
00:30or wherever you go, there is a discussion about what will happen now.
00:33Where do we have to go beyond this?
00:35Where will this country go beyond this?
00:38When we look around us, we see only one thing.
00:46And that is that our direction is open.
00:49There is no limit in this country.
00:51Institutions are in front of you.
00:53So this institution should not be difficult.
00:55On which someone has confidence that he is doing the right thing.
00:58Or today someone came to me who had a big complaint with the police.
01:02And the police are doing a lot of injustice.
01:04I myself went to the hospital two days ago.
01:06So looking at the situation there, I found out what happens to a common man in these hospitals.
01:11When it comes to big issues, the parliament has become a debating club.
01:17The internal fights of the Supreme Court do not end.
01:20Look at the Election Commission of Pakistan.
01:22Every year, with every election, it is getting more and more controversial.
01:27Why did we not succeed in building these institutions?
01:30Institutions are not the name of a building, cement, sand.
01:35Institutions are made up of individuals.
01:37Are we not able to make such individuals?
01:39Who should build these institutions.
01:41Who should increase these institutions.
01:43Everyone should contribute to the development of the country.
01:46And good, better people should come and develop this country.
01:49Or everyone is dragging it into a reverse gear.
01:53Last year, when we were talking about freedom of expression, it was a default thing.
01:58Now we are talking about it.
02:00Yesterday, I was talking to a guest of Muslim League Moon about an incident.
02:04Here, people are cutting the throat of their brothers behind the electricity bills of 15,000.
02:09They are killing their wives.
02:11This is frustration, this is anger.
02:13This anger is suppressed right now.
02:16But till when?
02:18This is the biggest challenge in our 77th Independence Day.
02:23What are we going to do next year?
02:25Will we be lower than this next year?
02:27Will our debt be double than this?
02:29Will our conditions and electricity bills be more than this?
02:32In a country where memes are being made,
02:35that Arshad Nadeem, who won the Olympics gold,
02:38and so much money is being distributed to him,
02:41that someone asked him, these memes, jokes that are made,
02:44that what will you do?
02:45He said, first of all, I will pay my electricity bill.
02:47When this becomes a joke of your society,
02:49then think about where we have come socially and economically.
02:54And I have already told you about the institutions.
02:56We need to go ahead with this.
02:58We need to improve this if we want to take this country forward.
03:01This was a small message.
03:04Our 77th Independence Day.
03:06I want to start.
03:10Hasnath is with me.
03:11I will also talk about the Supreme Court.
03:12But first, I want to start with the Patan report.
03:15With me is Sarwar Bari.
03:18You have also given another report, 128.
03:21First, you told us about Nawaz Sharif's party.
03:23Now, you have also told us a lot about Awn Chaudhary's party.
03:28There are 1 lakh extra votes.
03:30From 80% to 100%, the National Assembly turned out to be in the NA seat.
03:37And around 41%, the turnout of the Subaish seat.
03:42How clear do you see when you open the polls that the election did not go well?
03:48Look, whatever polls you open,
03:52it seems that the election was not there.
03:55It was something else.
03:56We will have to give it another name.
03:59But when you talk about the Awn Chaudhary seat,
04:03another new thing has come.
04:06Usually, the National Assembly has 2 to 2.5 seats.
04:11Or at most, there are 3 polls for the Subaish Assembly.
04:14But in this, 5 polls for the Subaish Assembly have been put.
04:17And none of the polls for the Subaish Assembly are below the polls for the National Assembly.
04:25Which is a violation of the Elections Act.
04:29This is a very surprising thing.
04:31I read this in your report.
04:32This is a very surprising thing.
04:34Because usually, under the seat of the National Assembly of Nawaz Sharif,
04:39there were 2 complete polls for the Subaish Assembly.
04:42And there were 15 polling stations for 1 poll.
04:46In this case, the polls for 5 Subaish Assemblies have been selected.
04:55And they are not from the same place.
04:57This is a violation of the delimitation principles of the Elections Act.
05:03In this, the basic principle is that the geographical compactness should not be broken.
05:09In this, it seems that some are of a moderate tone.
05:13In this, it seems that some are of a moderate tone.
05:15It seems that the work started before the election.
05:17Yes, a long time ago.
05:19Because this is about delimitation.
05:22But sir, there were problems in the delimitation.
05:27You also pointed out that 80-100% of the people voted for the National Assembly seat.
05:3441% voted for the Subaish Assembly seat.
05:37You are saying that only 1 lakh people came out to vote for Mr. Chaudhary.
05:46They said that they don't want to vote for anyone in the Subaish Assembly.
05:49It is not possible.
05:51This does not happen in Pakistan.
05:53And Kashif Abbasi, the local government elections in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa have 5 ballot papers.
06:01And the local government system introduced by Musharraf had 5-6 ballot papers.
06:07And there was not much difference there either.
06:09It is not possible that 40-45% of the people voted for the Nazim candidate.
06:15And 10% voted for the minority candidate.
06:21This does not happen even there where 6-6 ballot papers are given to the voters.
06:28So these are inevitable things.
06:30That 5 people voted for the Subaish Assembly seat.
06:33And 40% voted for the National Assembly seat.
06:37And secondly, the polling stations where the turnout is very high,
06:44Mr. Chaudhary wins in those polling stations.
06:49Mr. Nawaz Sharif wins in those polling stations.
06:52And this is visible in the rest of the polls.
06:56Sir, how much time will it take for you to bring more polls?
07:00Not one by one.
07:01We are thinking that we will bring 6-8 polls next week.
07:06We will send it to you.
07:08Alright. So we will talk to you again next week.
07:11We will see what happened in those 6-8 polls.
07:14But if you allow me, I would like to talk a little.
07:17If you give me a chance to talk about the decision of the three National Assemblies.
07:22If you talk quickly, sir.
07:24Tell us quickly. You are talking about the Supreme Court's decision.
07:28Yes, yes, yes.
07:29I would like to tell you in one sentence that
07:31when I saw the election commission's website yesterday,
07:34the forms 47 and 49 were available on the election commission's website on 9th February.
07:44So if the consolidation has been done,
07:48the forms 47 and 49 have been issued,
07:51then the election commission did not have the right to order recounting here.
07:56So this was fundamentally wrong.
07:58The election commission had violated its own law.
08:01And then the Lahore High Court changed it.
08:05And then the Supreme Court justified the illegal action of the election commission.
08:11In that too, a judge said that the decision of the Lahore High Court was correct.
08:16Justice Sakeel Abbasi said that the decision of the Lahore High Court was correct.
08:20This election commission cannot do it when the result has been consolidated.
08:24Absolutely.
08:25Thank you very much, sir, for being with us.
08:28Today we would like to talk to Dr. Ali Bajwa, who is also with us.
08:33He did Arshad Nadeem's surgeries in London.
08:38But before going to him, Asnad is with me.
08:41Asnad, what was the need for Chief Justice of Pakistan to say that
08:45I will tell you that the government will have to act on our decisions.
08:49Of course, this will be about the special sessions.
08:51Listen to what he said.
08:53Please make it clear that it is never possible that the judgment of the Supreme Court is not implemented.
08:59This will be a violation of the constitution if this is thought.
09:02Executive institutions should be recognized that they have no choice
09:06but to comply with the orders of the Supreme Court.
09:08I am not saying this. The constitution is saying this.
09:10And the authority draws the decision.
09:12Why was this needed for all of this?
09:14Do you think that the decision of the special sessions was not implemented?
09:17No.
09:18If you look at it, the election commission had to give the reserve seat to the PTI.
09:23They had to notify. They did not.
09:25But the problem that is coming to the Supreme Court,
09:28the external elements are resisting.
09:32The problem is coming inside the Supreme Court.
09:34When two judges will say that there should not be any action on the non-unanimous decision.
09:38The Chief Justice will try to put it soon.
09:41If a review is put, it will be infructious soon.
09:44The distribution of promises is visible.
09:46The judges of July 12 are being repatriated.
09:50Someone's driver is being repatriated.
09:52Where are they being repatriated?
09:53They are being sent to the parent department.
09:55The judges, the researchers and the drivers?
09:59Yes.
10:00Who has the authority to register them?
10:02Their deportation was done five years ago.
10:10But there is a courtesy that you ask the judge.
10:13Judge Mansoor Ali Shah was with them from Lahore.
10:16He was sent to the Punjab Judiciary.
10:21Was Mansoor Ali Shah himself sent?
10:24No.
10:25It was sent by the competent authority.
10:27Obviously, the Chief Justice approved it.
10:29There is a judge's driver.
10:31There is an ADR committee, a very important committee,
10:35which is being added by Judge Mansoor Ali Shah.
10:38They have done a lot of work on arbitration.
10:40It will be reconstituted on July 22.
10:43So, there is something inside the house.
10:45There is a lot.
10:46They are all straight.
10:48One or the other is straight.
10:49It seems so.
10:50Although it should not be.
10:52There were curtains.
10:53Curtains have always been there in the past.
10:54Absolutely.
10:55Judge Mansoor Ali Shah and Chief Justice Qazi Faisal
10:58have been on the same page since 2018.
11:02Although these were judges who were subordinate to Saqib Nisar.
11:07But now we see that after July 12, the situation is getting worse.
11:12Day by day, the situation is getting worse.
11:14As it was said that the review should be done soon.
11:17Then now they are giving reference to the judgment
11:20that three lawmakers were won by Noon League.
11:23PTI lost.
11:24And the way it was done.
11:26I think the matter should have gone to an election tribunal
11:30instead of an election commission.
11:32And for the first time in 15 years I have seen
11:34that their rights are being questioned on their judges.
11:38And it is being said that the election commission should be appointed.
11:40Respect that.
11:42I think respect is from the conduct.
11:44And the conduct is in front of everyone.
11:46So this is one thing that is clearly visible.
11:48There are two approaches.
11:49But you can see this even in the holidays.
11:51Absolutely.
11:52When there are holidays in the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
11:55But why?
11:56See, we often keep understanding from you
11:59what is happening in the Supreme Court at the moment.
12:01You know, what is happening in terms of cases.
12:03But now, when it comes to public statements
12:05or publicly to the judges.
12:07Because there is a lot of criticism from the government.
12:09That the judge speaks in his decisions.
12:11He should not have spoken publicly.
12:13Where do you stand as reporters
12:16who cover the Supreme Court
12:18that is the government right or not?
12:20See, the government was in the past.
12:22In the era of Iftikhar Chaudhary, the Peoples Party
12:24and his Tussle was there.
12:25Noon League and Saqib Nisar were there.
12:27But in reality, the division was not like that.
12:29That with one camp.
12:30And in the era of Umrata Banjal
12:32it was that the matter was divided into two parts.
12:34Even now, this is the situation.
12:36And it seems that the whole matter
12:38is that the specific seats
12:40should not be given to the PTI.
12:42And the government should get them.
12:44So that for the Constitution Amendment,
12:46their path is clear.
12:47Now, the Judicial Package from the Constitution Amendment
12:49I think that the decision of the judges is fine.
12:51First, the PTI is a mandate.
12:53They should get it.
12:54They should get the specific seats.
12:56The big purpose in that was
12:58that the way the Constitution Amendment
13:00is going to happen, it should also be stopped.
13:02What is the good news on the Constitution Amendment?
13:04There are 10 seats in the National Assembly.
13:06Yes.
13:07I think there are 11 short seats.
13:09After giving these 3, there will be 3.
13:11So, we have to do 223.
13:13I think there will be 212.
13:14We have to do 225, 226.
13:15There is a shortage there.
13:16If Moulana Fazlur Rahman also supports,
13:18then it is possible
13:20or the specific seats should be given to him again.
13:22But the problem is coming to the Senate at the moment.
13:24The majority is not in the Senate.
13:26You must have seen that the Election Act
13:28has been passed.
13:30But the Election Commission
13:32has not given the seats under the Election Act.
13:34They could have given it to the government.
13:36It will be reviewed, right?
13:38No, the decision of the Supreme Court
13:40was also not approved.
13:42And the second thing was that
13:44the Act has come.
13:46Based on this, they did not give the seats
13:48to the Noon League and the People's Party again.
13:50The reason is that the problem is coming to the Senate at the moment.
13:52The government does not have two-thirds in the Senate.
13:54The numbers are not complete.
13:56No one has thought before that
13:58they will have to complete it in the Senate.
14:00This problem is also coming there.
14:02The elections are to be held in the Senate.
14:04Who knows, the elections will be held in the Senate
14:06as soon as possible so that the specific seats
14:08are not given to the PTI.
14:10Because if the PTI gets the specific seats,
14:12then they can get 10-11 seats out of 12.
14:14Can they get 12 seats out of 12?
14:16Look, their majority is very less.
14:18I think there are 10 seats.
14:20There are 26 seats.
14:22Yes, one and a half seats.
14:24If they give seats to Mulana Fazlur Rahman,
14:26they will have an understanding.
14:28Then they will not go to anyone else.
14:30Tell me, in the end,
14:32the ECP went into review.
14:34Do such reviews usually happen in the past
14:36that the Election Commission says
14:38that we do not agree with your decision.
14:40We do not agree with your decision.
14:42The review was in the 90-day election.
14:44The Election Commission also went into that matter.
14:46It will still go.
14:48But the Election Commission was concerned
14:50by one of the judges that
14:52why did you come into this matter?
14:54Do you remember the remarks of the judge
14:56that you are becoming an adversary?
14:58You have become a litigant of this case.
15:00And now it seems that you are really a litigant.
15:02Again and again, the Chief Justice,
15:04even in the case of the Tribunal,
15:06Suleman Akram Raja was asked
15:08that how were you aggrieved?
15:10It was the case of the Chief Justice
15:12of the Lahore High Court and the Election Commission.
15:14How did you file a writ in the Lahore High Court?
15:16The same three PTI people who went out,
15:18when they went to the High Court,
15:20how can the Election Commission
15:22come into this matter?
15:24This is also a matter.
15:26But anyway, it is agreed.
15:28What other agreements do they have?
15:30Look, there is one interesting thing.
15:32It was said that the interpretation
15:34of the decision of 13 January was not right.
15:36The entire review has been filed.
15:38Only two lines have been written
15:40that we have not interpreted
15:42any decision wrongly.
15:44Although on 13 January,
15:46there is a big charge on them
15:48and the Election Commission
15:50is strengthening Chief Justice Qazi Faisal
15:52and the government is also strengthening him.
15:54It is also possible that their thinking
15:56is similar.
15:58It is possible that both of them
16:00think that somewhere or the other
16:02there is a big violation of the law.
16:04Let me be the devil's advocate.
16:06But in the end,
16:08after the holidays,
16:10there is no showdown.
16:12A smooth matter will continue.
16:14No, I think that if Chief Justice Qazi Faisal
16:16gives a clear message that
16:18I am not interested in extension,
16:20I will retire on 25 October,
16:22then the problem will be solved.
16:24Otherwise, I think the review of 63A
16:26will also be focused because
16:28if you want to complete the number in the Senate,
16:30then you will have to put a review of 63A.
16:32The problem there is that
16:34there are two judges in the committee
16:36who do not agree with the Chief Justice.
16:38Then there is this matter, the review has to come.
16:40The 100 votes on the letter of 6 judges
16:42have been pending for a long time.
16:44The matter of the tribunal
16:46is different from that of the police.
16:48The bench was made before July 12,
16:50so it seems that the majority
16:52will endorse the opinion
16:54of Chief Justice Qazi Faisal.
16:56Okay.
16:58Thank you very much for being with us.
17:00But this bench is very interesting
17:02which was made on the tribunals.
17:04It was made before July 12, basically.
17:06It is a very interesting bench.
17:08Is Dr. Ali Bajwa present?
17:10Is Dr. Ali Bajwa present?
17:12Is Dr. Ali Bajwa present?
17:14Dr. Ali Bajwa, Assalamu Alaikum.
17:16Walaikum Assalam.
17:18Kashif Bhai, thank you very much for having me.
17:20It is a pleasure, Dr. Ali Bajwa.
17:22Please tell people
17:24that you also contributed
17:26to the arrival of Arshad Nadeem.
17:28It is obvious that
17:30this country and this nation
17:32had the day of August 14,
17:34so we thought that Arshad Nadeem is a national hero.
17:36But you were his doctor
17:38who did his surgery.
17:40He stayed in your house
17:42whenever he came to London.
17:44To make him fit
17:46and to keep him fit,
17:48there was a whole process
17:50in which, Rizwan was telling me
17:52how the Defence Nationals
17:54did their diagnostics.
17:56How was it?
17:58How did you make him fit
18:00in time?
18:02And let me also tell people
18:04that the person who is holding
18:06the flag of Pakistan
18:08is Dr. Arshad Nadeem.
18:10You can see him on the screen.
18:12He was present in the stadium.
18:14He was cheering. He was wearing a Pakistan shirt.
18:16And he was celebrating
18:18when Arshad Nadeem
18:20set the Olympic record.
18:22So only two you could see.
18:24One of them was Dr. Ali.
18:26Yes, Dr. Ali.
18:28Thank you very much, Kashif Bhai.
18:30You are too kind.
18:32First of all,
18:34we did not contribute much.
18:36He achieved a lot.
18:38A lot of people were involved.
18:40It was a few years of hard work.
18:42Salman Butt, who is his coach,
18:44is also my friend.
18:46He gave me the capacity to dream big.
18:48He tried to see such a big dream.
18:50In fact, he did it with courage.
18:52Injuries are a part of sports.
18:54When you take your body
18:56to such extremes,
18:58you will get injured.
19:00He was treated twice here in Cambridge.
19:02We are lucky that we were able to do it.
19:04It was a little contribution.
19:06He did the rehab himself.
19:08Rizwan Aftab, who you are talking about,
19:10he was pivotal.
19:12He arranged MRI scans
19:14in the National Hospital.
19:16He promptly sent me.
19:18We were able to treat him soon.
19:20Many other people
19:22contributed to his treatment.
19:24But the best thing is
19:26that Arshad never loses hope.
19:28When he was treated in Cambridge,
19:30the day he was treated,
19:32he did not walk with crutches.
19:34Normally, patients
19:36use crutches for 2-3 weeks after surgery.
19:38By crutches, you mean
19:40crutches for normal people.
19:42He did not use crutches.
19:44He did not use crutches.
19:46Where people reach in 2 months,
19:48he reached there in 2 weeks.
19:50After 2 months, he was training
19:52in South Africa with coaches.
19:54Many people contributed to it.
19:56But the pivotal thing is
19:58that the boy has his own passion
20:00and discipline.
20:02I was lucky enough to share
20:04the home with him.
20:06We trained together.
20:08I learned a lot from him.
20:10I learned a lot from him.
20:12For example?
20:16For example,
20:18focus
20:20on one thing.
20:22Last year,
20:24our focus was to win
20:26the World Championship.
20:28We went to Oregon and Budapest.
20:30The boy did not say
20:32that he wanted to go out for dinner.
20:34He exercised,
20:36trained,
20:38slept on his phone
20:40and recovered.
20:42He has a single-minded focus.
20:44He lives a simple life.
20:46I tried a lot
20:48in Cambridge
20:50to sit outside
20:52and watch the stars.
20:54He did not like it.
20:56But there are a lot of things
20:58from that.
21:00Simplicity and single-mindedness.
21:02Focus.
21:04This is my job.
21:06He has to do it.
21:08He was focused
21:10as an athlete.
21:12I have to achieve this.
21:14Exactly.
21:16Simplicity is
21:18like a child
21:20who is addicted to something.
21:22If you look at it,
21:24a seven-year-old
21:26who plays with toys
21:28is focused.
21:30Nothing distracts him.
21:32Repetition becomes boring.
21:34You have been doing the same drill
21:36for 10 years.
21:38But
21:40the quest for excellence
21:42when you are trying
21:44to reach this place,
21:46you have to do boring things.
21:48By boring things,
21:50I mean repetition.
21:52The Olympics
21:54were thrown in 1992-1997.
21:56But you have to see
21:58why it did not happen
22:00128 years ago.
22:02How did it reach this place?
22:04There are a lot of training sessions
22:06behind it.
22:08There are more than 4000 training sessions.
22:10Dr. Bajro's contribution
22:12in a small surgery
22:14is a very small thing.
22:16When you talked to him,
22:18did he say
22:20that the gold medal is his?
22:22I took it.
22:24How was his confidence?
22:26Whenever I talk to him,
22:28he says that he has never
22:30played with a gold medal.
22:32We have a video
22:34where we make an Olympic record.
22:36Whether we get a medal or not,
22:38we make an Olympic record.
22:40This is called single-minded focus.
22:42It creates stress.
22:44It creates an environment
22:46in which the player strives
22:48to make an Olympic record.
22:50Is that what you are saying?
22:52That we have to break
22:54the Olympic record?
22:56You have to keep the athlete
22:58comfortable, but you have to
23:00create an environment for it.
23:02Like a spring, it is loaded.
23:04Salman Butt, his coach and my friend
23:06were doing this day and night.
23:08There should not be so much
23:10stress or pressure that the boy
23:12collapses.
23:14But if there is no pressure,
23:16he will not be able to peak
23:18on the performance day.
23:20There are many players who
23:22throw very well in training,
23:24but Arshad throws in the championship.
23:26We had to do a lot of
23:28sophisticated work for this.
23:30Some people in Paris were
23:32asking me if they train
23:34themselves or play alone.
23:36I told them that they are a
23:38very sophisticated team
23:40and have been working for
23:42a few years.
23:44The important thing is that
23:46Arshad comes out of his bed
23:48himself and has to train
23:50every day.
23:52For this, you need a strong
23:54mind, not a body.
23:56You need a strong brain and
23:58a strong mind.
24:00Absolutely right.
24:02Do you know Neeraj,
24:04Chopra's adversary?
24:06I call him a colleague,
24:08not an adversary.
24:10He can be called a
24:12competitive rival.
24:14I have met him many times
24:16and he is a very good guy.
24:18He is very polite and respectful.
24:20I was very impressed
24:22when I met Arshad
24:24after the competition
24:26was over and thousands
24:28of people went home.
24:30There were 10-12 people left
24:32who were tested for anti-doping.
24:34We were sitting in the lawn
24:36and he congratulated Arshad.
24:38There was a very good
24:40atmosphere.
24:42Both of them are very good guys.
24:44What was the difference in training?
24:46Neeraj does
24:48separate training.
24:50His training is in other countries.
24:52Arshad's training
24:54is at different places.
24:56Arshad's training program,
24:58I believe,
25:00is very unique.
25:02We gave
25:04agility, speed and strength
25:06more importance and
25:08Arshad reduced volume.
25:10That was based on his sports medicine parameters.
25:12Every player's training program
25:14should be unique.
25:16If you want to get an excellent performance,
25:18people like me and Salman Butt
25:20should develop
25:22an athlete-focused training program.
25:24I think that was
25:26Arshad's success.
25:28The program for Arshad
25:30clicked with him.
25:32You can see that
25:34his performance is increasing
25:36I think
25:38there is still room for improvement.
25:40Will you break the world record?
25:44I will not comment on this.
25:46Arshad will tell you.
25:48There is still room for improvement.
25:50Thank you very much.
25:52Well done to the whole team.
25:54Thank you very much.
25:56Everybody who put in their effort.
25:58Because of this,
26:00we can talk about Arshad Nadeem.
26:02He is the center of attention.
26:04All the events are
26:06happening around him.
26:08The doctor only did his surgery.
26:10Arshad Nadeem stayed at his house
26:12when he was staying in London.
26:14There are many other good things
26:16that the doctor does not want to tell
26:18on TV.
26:20That is why we will not tell.
26:22He played a very important role.
26:24Let's take a break.
26:26Welcome back viewers.
26:28Mr. Muhammad Ali Durrani is with us.
26:30You must have seen the news.
26:32Two or three days ago,
26:34in Islamabad,
26:36at Mr. Durrani's residence,
26:38the Grand Opposition Alliance
26:40was formed.
26:42All the people gathered.
26:44After a long time,
26:46the leadership came together.
26:48We were seeing individual meetings.
26:50But if we can show the picture
26:52on the screen,
26:54you will see that
26:56almost all the leadership was present.
26:58Tariq-e-Insaf, Maulana Fazerman,
27:00Mehmood Khan Achakzai,
27:02Jamaat-e-Islami,
27:04Sabtar Abbasi.
27:06How did you gather
27:08all the opposition?
27:12Actually,
27:14after a long time,
27:18there was an organic political gathering
27:20in Pakistan.
27:24It was on the initiative
27:26of the leaders.
27:28All the leaders
27:30were involved.
27:34I think
27:36it was purely
27:38a political
27:40and democratic
27:42gathering.
27:44It is interesting that you are saying
27:46that it was an organic gathering.
27:48We have to say this in Pakistan.
27:50Sir, they came,
27:52but did not bring them.
27:54Exactly.
27:56They came with
27:58a lot of love and
28:00enthusiasm.
28:02They came for the people
28:04and for the country.
28:08The agenda was
28:10to gather all together.
28:12That is why we did not
28:14invite the media.
28:16The program was to sit together.
28:18So that
28:20the people
28:22could not be excluded.
28:24Can it be said
28:26that the opposition
28:28has become a grand alliance?
28:30Or is this the first step?
28:32I think
28:34this should be
28:36a positive step.
28:38Before this,
28:40there was a lot of
28:42communication.
28:44There was a lot of guidance
28:46from the Maulana.
28:48There was also
28:50guidance from Imran Khan.
28:52There was also guidance from
28:54Pir Sahib.
28:56But everyone had one point.
28:58That all the parties
29:00outside the government
29:02in the country
29:04should sit together
29:06for the country
29:08and for the people.
29:12Mr. Durrani's voice
29:14was cut again.
29:16Mr. Durrani was supposed
29:18to come to our studio,
29:20but he is stuck in traffic.
29:22That is why we are trying
29:24to contact him again.
29:26This is a step
29:28towards a grand
29:30opposition alliance.
29:32This is not the first.
29:34We all know that
29:36Tariq-e-Insaf, Achakzai,
29:38Maulana Sahib,
29:40and other Jamaats
29:42have met.
29:44There have been some
29:46reservations.
29:48This does not want to
29:50become a formal
29:52part of an alliance.
29:54Hafiz Naeem Sahib
29:56told us that
29:58the Jamaat does not
30:00want to become
30:02a formal part of
30:04an alliance.
30:06But what will all
30:08the opposition do
30:10together?
30:12If all of them
30:14get together,
30:16then what will
30:18happen?
30:46Hafiz Naeem Sahib told us that
30:48the Jamaat does not
30:50want to become
30:52a formal part of
30:54an alliance.
30:56But what will
30:58all the opposition
31:00do together?
31:02If all of them
31:04get together,
31:06then what will
31:08happen?
31:10Hafiz Naeem Sahib
31:12told us that
31:14the Jamaat does not
31:16want to become
31:18a formal part of
31:20an alliance.
31:22But what will
31:24happen?
31:26Hafiz Naeem Sahib
31:28told us that
31:30the Jamaat does not
31:32want to become
31:34a formal part of
31:36an alliance.
31:38But what will
31:40happen?
31:42Hafiz Naeem Sahib
31:44told us that
31:46the Jamaat does not
31:48want to become
31:50a formal part of
31:52an alliance.
31:54But what will
31:56happen?
31:58Hafiz Naeem Sahib
32:00told us that
32:02the Jamaat does not
32:04want to become
32:06a formal part of
32:08an alliance.
32:10Hafiz Naeem Sahib
32:12told us that
32:14the Jamaat does not
32:16want to become
32:18a formal part of
32:20an alliance.
32:22But what will
32:24happen?
32:26Hafiz Naeem Sahib
32:28told us that
32:30the Jamaat does not
32:32want to become
32:34a formal part of
32:36an alliance.
32:38But what will
32:40happen?
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