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Nawaz Sharif is Back in Politics | Shahid Khaqan Abbasi's Breaks Inside News
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Nawaz Sharif is Back in Politics | Shahid Khaqan Abbasi's Breaks Inside News
"Ishaq Dar hi Bata Satke Hain Ke Faiz Hameed Ne Un Kay Sath Kya Ghalat Ky.." Javed Latif's Statement
Shahid Khaqan Abbasi's Big Statement Regarding Faizabad Dharna
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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
00:11This is the program, I am Aniqa Nassar.
00:13Viewers, the process of assassination has begun.
00:16A lot of people are praising this.
00:18But the case that has brought General Faiz to this point,
00:22that his court-martial proceedings have begun,
00:26there are two things that came under the press release of the ISPR.
00:32One is the Top City case,
00:36and the other is the case against the Pakistan Army after retirement.
00:44Remember that this arrest can be seen as the biggest news of the year,
00:50not just for a week or a month.
00:54In this regard, let's listen to what the Information Minister has to say.
01:25It has been said that more arrests will be made.
01:29And then it happened that three more retirees were arrested.
01:33In this regard, along with interference in politics,
01:36taking a part in politics after retirement is something that is being accused of.
01:43In particular, interference in the affairs of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is a very big accusation.
01:50Then there was the incident of 9th May, and then what happened?
01:53The rest is history in front of us.
01:55The situation is that after that, many ministers and politicians gave their statements,
02:01condemning their character.
02:04Today, Mr. Asadar has clearly said that General Faiz had also tried to be heavy-handed with him.
02:12Now he is getting his reward.
02:15Mr. Khwaja Asif, who has been making big announcements for some time now,
02:19he had also declared the next three to four months to be very important.
02:23He has also said some other things.
02:25He has also spoken about promises.
02:27Listen to this.
02:45I used to travel on helicopter and go to army house.
03:12Speaker of Punjab Assembly, Malik Ahmed.
03:14Those who are coming, reach there in the evening and report to Mr. Shahbaz Sharif.
03:19After this, the reaction of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf was also very clear.
03:23They declared it an internal matter,
03:25when it was being said that interference in political affairs was basically being done to give an edge to Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
03:32Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf has very clearly said that this is basically an internal matter of an institution.
03:39It will not be right to link it to politics or to link it to any political party.
03:45Barrister Gauhar said this. Listen to this.
03:48Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf has no personal or political affiliation with General Fais-e-Ameed.
03:54If there was any affiliation with him, then it was only professional.
03:58General Fais-e-Ameed's arrest, his trial, is an internal matter of the army.
04:03Those people who are given political color, people have recognized them.
04:08On the other hand, Nawaz Sharif has broken his fast after a long time.
04:11There was a lot of anticipation that when he came in October,
04:14then he will do active participation in politics in the future.
04:18Before the elections, after the elections, nothing like this has been seen.
04:21But today he has come forward and is sitting with his daughter,
04:24that is, CM of Punjab, Maryam Nawaz Sharif.
04:27She has reduced the fee to Rs. 14 per unit in electricity.
04:30She is going to use 500 units.
04:32But at the same time, the root of all the problems has been decided by Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
04:36And at the same time, once again, why did you remove me?
04:40That's why I said, why did you remove me?
04:42And today I say, why did you remove me?
04:45To see this day, which we are all seeing today, no one is going to ask them.
04:49Who has brought the country to this state today?
04:52After all, who did all this?
04:54Who is responsible for this?
04:55If I am not responsible, then there is someone.
04:58And he is the one who came after us.
05:00Now this decision has been made by the Punjab government.
05:02In the months of August and September, they have tried to provide immediate relief.
05:09And those people who consume 0 to 500 units,
05:13Rs. 14 per unit of electricity will be reduced from the electricity bill.
05:19So this was a very important week in terms of the constitution, in terms of politics, in terms of the limits of the constitution.
05:26And we will discuss all the topics of this week.
05:29And we will discuss today's latest topic as well.
05:59The president is in power in the morning as well as in the evening.
06:03And there is a share of power in Balochistan as well.
06:07So it is their choice.
06:09Whenever they come, they can talk.
06:11But this decision is very dangerous for their party.
06:15What is dangerous?
06:16The one who is in power in the Jamaat has to work in power.
06:19Sometimes power is heavy.
06:21Power is always heavy.
06:22But you have to work there.
06:24You have to deliver.
06:25You have to solve the problems of the country.
06:27Apart from this, there is no other problem.
06:29You observed that today he was sitting in front of Mariam Nawaz Sahiba.
06:33And she has announced there that Rs. 14 per unit will be reduced from the electricity bill of those who consume 0 to 500 units in August and September.
06:40After that, the Prime Minister of Pakistan, Mr. Shahbaz Sharif, said that I totally support, I appreciate.
06:46That is, the Prime Minister of Pakistan did not know about this.
06:50If he has appreciated later, his statement has come later.
06:54Mr. Shahbaz Sharif, is there a clear cut division or not?
06:58In your opinion.
06:59You live in this Jamaat.
07:00What kind of division can there be?
07:02Mian Nawaz Sharif is the president of that party.
07:04What will be the divide in it?
07:06So the thing is that if Rs. 14 is for Pakistan, then it is a very good decision.
07:11There was no other way than this.
07:13We had said before that take money out of the budget.
07:17Cut PSDP, cut your expenditure, whatever you want to do.
07:21And give relief to people.
07:24So this relief will be received by the people who are there.
07:27So this is a good decision.
07:29But is this enough, Mr. Abbas?
07:31No, this is not the solution to the problem.
07:33But today you have to give relief.
07:35Today people have the choice to pay the electricity bill.
07:38Now people are saying that the summers have passed, after that you have reduced the electricity bill.
07:41No, there is a problem in that.
07:42You should have given this in June, July and August in three bills.
07:46The bill will be reduced in September.
07:47Anyway, there is some relief.
07:50What should be the next step of the government?
07:52Mr. Abbas, if you were there, what would be the next step for the people's relief?
07:57Look, how will we give relief to the people?
07:59When the economy will be strong, we will give.
08:01There is no other way.
08:03And until there is political stability, the economy will not be strong.
08:06All these things are connected.
08:08Will there be political stability?
08:10There will be an effort.
08:12Look, it will not happen on its own.
08:13Political stability does not happen on its own.
08:15I have been saying for a year and a half that you have only one way.
08:19Sit at the table.
08:20There is no other way.
08:22The sooner you sit, the better.
08:26PTI was not ready to sit at a table with political parties.
08:30But now there has been a change.
08:32I will tell you a statement of Barrister Gauhar.
08:34Let's go.
08:35He said about Mr. Mehmood Khan Achakzai,
08:38we have made a committee to talk.
08:41As far as our dialogue with the government is concerned,
08:44we have objected to Mr. Mehmood Khan Achakzai.
08:46It is his wish.
08:47When does he want to have a dialogue with him?
08:49I think there should be a dialogue.
08:51The doors should be open.
08:52The windows should be open.
08:53The air should keep flowing.
08:55There should be light.
08:56The situation should get better.
08:57The distance should end.
08:58We should move forward.
09:00This statement is very positive, Mr. Abbas.
09:03But before that, the doors were closed, the windows were closed, and the lights were also closed.
09:07Now they are open because there have been recent arrests.
09:11Or do you genuinely think that...
09:12Look, we read a lot of things in everything.
09:15You leave all that aside.
09:17What is the need of the country today?
09:19You will have to sit together.
09:21If you don't sit together, there will be no political stability.
09:24If there is no political stability, the economy will not be good.
09:27If the economy is not good, the people will not get relief.
09:29When we talk about relief,
09:31today the relief for the people is to reduce their burden on them.
09:35The burden has to fall on the people.
09:37If the government does not have the money to pay its expenses,
09:41if it takes a loan and survives,
09:43then from where will it give relief?
09:45If you don't have the money to pay your expenses,
09:47then why do you need to increase the PSDP?
09:49I was saying that...
09:51I was saying that we should reduce our expenses.
09:53We should reduce the government.
09:55We should reduce the volume of the government.
09:57That did not happen. There was no reform in this budget.
09:59There is no reform in this budget.
10:01So, there is only one way.
10:03Take out some money from here and give some relief to the people.
10:05This is a temporary measure.
10:07But also remember that that relief will also come on an interest of Rs. 22.
10:11The money that you will give in electricity,
10:13you will have to take out a loan of Rs. 22.
10:15Now, let's come to the other side.
10:17Let's come to the arrest of General Faiz.
10:19At one time, he was a very powerful personality.
10:23I remember that in the Gujranwala Jalsa,
10:25he made a point of criticism
10:27that there should not be interference in politics.
10:29Along with that, there was a press briefing of TGISPR.
10:31They said that in our institution,
10:33there is a lot of interference.
10:35Whether it is late or early, it happens.
10:37So, now,
10:39do you see any impact of this on politics?
10:43In the coming times,
10:45there were some expectations of certain political parties.
10:47Will they break now?
10:49Is there any difference?
10:51We get more entangled in these matters.
10:55And unfortunately,
10:57we start making others happy.
10:59This is not the way.
11:01Okay.
11:03They have been accused.
11:05The army has its own system.
11:07They have been accused.
11:09Now, the court martial will take place.
11:11They have to answer.
11:13If they are able to satisfy
11:15that these allegations are wrong,
11:17then they will be acquitted.
11:19Otherwise, they will be punished.
11:21The system of the army works very quickly.
11:23For example,
11:25I have been acquitted of a court case.
11:27It took 50 months.
11:29Yes.
11:31And after staying in the prison.
11:33Yes.
11:35It took 50 months.
11:37So, the system of the army is a little better.
11:39There are summary trials.
11:41They make a very hearty decision.
11:43So, this is the matter of the army
11:45and their matter.
11:47If they have broken the law,
11:49then they should be held accountable.
11:51It is not a choice
11:53whether you prosecute someone or not.
11:55But the real word is prosecution.
11:57When the aspect of persecution
11:59starts to be seen in this,
12:01if it comes,
12:03we have put many politicians
12:05in our country,
12:07especially in the last 6 years,
12:09in jail.
12:11Yes.
12:13And if you look at all their cases,
12:15only persecution is persecution.
12:17You cannot prosecute anyone.
12:19I will come, Mr. Abiy Khan.
12:21When I am in jail,
12:23we will talk there too.
12:25But here the case is different.
12:27The case of the politicians was different.
12:29But you must remember,
12:31there was a report.
12:33In that report, you said very clearly
12:35that I take responsibility.
12:37And I am not going to blame anybody.
12:39You reiterated this in my program.
12:41Faizabad protest.
12:43You are the Prime Minister.
12:45There are a lot of things you are privy to.
12:47Was there any role there
12:49where interference in politics
12:51or any way in politics
12:53to pressurize
12:55cases were seen?
12:57What I said,
12:59I did not say
13:01that I take responsibility
13:03for the protests.
13:05I said that in the cases of protests,
13:07I am responsible for the actions
13:09of the government.
13:11Whatever happened,
13:13it is my responsibility.
13:15Although whatever happened,
13:17it is a long story.
13:19What is a long story?
13:21It was not in our power.
13:23The court ordered the police
13:25to clear it and not to use force.
13:27When the police tried,
13:29they fired 10 tear gas bullets
13:31and 100 came back.
13:33The police got excited.
13:35The matter was over.
13:37Now, the request is
13:39who organized the protest?
13:41There are a lot of cases
13:43in the country,
13:45which have interfered in politics.
13:47Make a truth commission for this.
13:49I do not have any evidence
13:51as to who organized it or not.
13:53You must have a lot of intelligence reports.
13:55I do not have any such intelligence report.
13:57There are a lot of reports.
13:59I can only tell you this.
14:01I said the same thing there.
14:03They did not ask me.
14:05I said that I did not have any such news
14:07that a particular person organized a protest.
14:09The protest took place.
14:11There is a political community
14:13present there.
14:15Now, if I start blaming someone
14:17who organized the protest?
14:19Pakistan keeps blaming others all the time.
14:21He did this, he did that.
14:23Elections have been stolen here.
14:25All kinds of governments have been stolen.
14:27Senate elections are being stolen.
14:29All these things are happening here in Pakistan.
14:31They have not been happening since today.
14:33They have been happening since centuries.
14:35Make a truth commission for this
14:37so that the truth is documented.
14:39I think that your suggestion
14:41of Truth and Reconciliation Commission
14:43has been around for a long time,
14:45but it has not been accepted yet.
14:47Do you see any hope in the future?
14:49I am hopeful,
14:51but there is no point in asking such questions.
14:53I will just speculate.
14:55It is wrong.
14:57So, you are saying that the Prime Minister
14:59at that time was completely
15:01blind from all this.
15:03Who did it? How did it happen?
15:05I did not have any evidence
15:07that a particular person organized a protest.
15:09I do not have any evidence.
15:11If anyone has it today, give it to them.
15:13The government is still present today.
15:15They have all the documents.
15:17I do not have any evidence.
15:19So, you are saying that
15:21the evidence is available today.
15:23If it was available then
15:25the evidence would be in the records.
15:27I do not know.
15:29I did not have it.
15:31The government should tell us
15:33who did it.
15:35You were talking about persecution.
15:37Politicians were persecuted.
15:39There was an interesting news today
15:41about a former I.G. Jail officer.
15:43He was arrested.
15:45Later it was found that
15:47he was arrested.
15:49Which jail officer?
15:51I think it was Salim Beg.
15:53He was arrested.
15:55I think he was retired.
15:57Yes, he was retired.
15:59He was watching the news at home.
16:01A lot of Prime Ministers
16:03were arrested under him.
16:05One of them was you.
16:07At this time,
16:09in your opinion,
16:11you are saying that
16:13a lot of politicians were persecuted.
16:15This is the stance of the government.
16:17It is not mine or anyone else's stance.
16:19The stance of the government is that
16:21no one was arrested.
16:23Any Prime Minister can be arrested.
16:25You can call it persecution.
16:27But no one was arrested.
16:29At this time, PTI, Imran Khan
16:31are being arrested because
16:33they were arrested.
16:35Do you agree with this?
16:37If there is evidence,
16:39then they should be arrested.
16:41It has been more than a year
16:43If there is evidence,
16:45then they should be arrested.
16:47Then there is a stay order.
16:49No, there is no stay order.
16:51You don't have a stay order
16:53to complete an investigation.
16:55You can do an investigation,
16:57complete an investigation,
16:59prepare an investigation,
17:01file charges in the court.
17:03This is the responsibility of the government.
17:05In a country,
17:07there is an attack on military facilities
17:09and the government remains silent
17:11When you are in the government,
17:13you start filing charges
17:15and when you are in the government,
17:17then it becomes persecution.
17:19Then the element of persecution
17:21ends.
17:23What is the problem?
17:25It has been a year and the cases
17:27are still not solved.
17:29In the Supreme Court,
17:31there was a stay order.
17:33Doesn't the government have
17:35the will to pursue it?
17:37I am asking the government.
17:39No, because you are saying
17:41that there is persecution.
17:43When you start accusing
17:45without evidence,
17:47that someone did this,
17:49then it becomes persecution.
17:51You are the government.
17:53Prosecute, file charges,
17:55collect evidence.
17:57This is how the world works.
17:59In England, the riots have not yet ended.
18:01They have punished thousands.
18:03They have prosecuted.
18:05They have not accused that
18:07this is wrong.
18:09They have not filed charges
18:11that Anika Bibi is wrong.
18:13This is wrong.
18:15This is not how it works.
18:17You can prosecute.
18:19This is your responsibility.
18:21You cannot be more responsible than this.
18:23But in the periphery,
18:25they were arrested for this purpose
18:27and their bails were cancelled.
18:29It was your crime to be there.
18:31Yes, that is right.
18:33It is a crime of a low level.
18:35If you hit a stone,
18:37it is a big crime.
18:39If you break it,
18:41it is a bigger crime.
18:43If you injure someone,
18:45it is a bigger crime.
18:47If you are present at that place,
18:49it becomes a crime.
18:51If you went to the gate of GHQ,
18:53for what purpose did you go?
18:55Prosecute.
18:57You have evidence.
18:59You have recordings.
19:01Your people were arrested there.
19:03Has anyone been punished for this?
19:05At this time,
19:07the government,
19:09especially considering
19:11that the economic situation is dire,
19:13if we do not do this right,
19:15then we will not be able to get out
19:17of this situation.
19:19In such a situation,
19:21there is a restriction on the internet.
19:23The freelancers who are working,
19:25are in trouble due to the slow internet speed.
19:27There is a website
19:29which is providing employment
19:31which we are not able to provide.
19:33It slows down.
19:35Will our system
19:37continue on this basis?
19:41This is the 21st century.
19:43One is freedom of speech.
19:47We have taken away
19:49freedom of speech from us.
19:51Freedom of listening
19:53has also been taken away from us.
19:55We cannot even receive information.
19:57What kind of a system is this?
19:59What kind of a country is this?
20:01What are you doing
20:03in the 21st century?
20:05Why are you doing this?
20:07We were talking about the IT boom.
20:09What are you doing?
20:11The world is laughing at you.
20:13Believe me.
20:15People are worried.
20:17What is happening in your country?
20:19What are you thinking behind this?
20:21If you want to do something,
20:23if there is a threat,
20:25if the government or the minister
20:27comes and tells us that
20:29we have slowed down the internet,
20:31the whole world
20:33has gone to 5G.
20:35The internet speed has increased
20:37so that people can work.
20:39Today,
20:41there is no place to watch
20:43movies or TikTok.
20:45This is your place to work.
20:47Your whole world is on the internet.
20:49Absolutely.
20:51Your whole life is on the internet.
20:53Entertainment is the same.
20:55Banking is the same.
20:57All kinds of buying and selling
20:59are happening there.
21:01The world is increasing speed
21:03but Pakistan is slowing it down.
21:05If the Prime Minister
21:07increases the speed of Punjab,
21:09it will be better.
21:11If you were the Prime Minister,
21:13what solution would you come up with?
21:15People are using the internet
21:17for propaganda.
21:19What solution would you come up with?
21:21This has happened in England.
21:23Those people have been punished.
21:25They have been caught and punished.
21:27You want to punish them?
21:29Look at the evidence.
21:31You kidnap someone
21:33and slow down the internet speed.
21:35This is not how countries work.
21:37You can prosecute.
21:39You can do it.
21:41Prosecution seems difficult.
21:43Prosecution is what happens.
21:45The law allows prosecution
21:47and not by accident.
21:49At this point,
21:51I would like to take a break.
21:53Thank you very much for joining me.
21:55A situation is developing
21:57regarding the internet.
21:59We will keep it in front of the government.
22:01Mr. Mian Javed Lateef will be with us after the break.
22:05Welcome back after the break.
22:07Mr. Mian Javed Lateef is with us.
22:09He is the senior leader of PMLN.
22:11Thank you very much for joining us.
22:13I am a little surprised
22:15that your government
22:17is arresting
22:19Mr. Faiz Hameed.
22:21This is a miracle.
22:23I am talking about
22:25the Deputy Prime Minister,
22:27Mr. Ishaq Dar.
22:29Do you consider this a miracle?
22:33Arresting him
22:35is a miracle.
22:37The reason is
22:39that unfortunately,
22:41there are people
22:43from political parties
22:45or from the people
22:47sitting in the institutions.
22:49They have come to listen
22:51and see.
22:53But this is the first time
22:55that a person
22:57has come out of his crease
22:59and played.
23:01He has done everything
23:03with so much courage
23:05without being questioned.
23:07It has been happening
23:09that people
23:11start their work
23:13without being questioned.
23:15But Mr. Faiz Hameed
23:17has not left this matter.
23:19No one has ever
23:21incited anyone
23:23to rebel before this.
23:25Mr. Faiz Hameed
23:27or his predecessors
23:29have not done anything.
23:31I was just listening to you
23:33or there was a ticker here
23:35that who is being
23:37charged by Nawaz Sharif.
23:39The people who have been
23:41appointed by him
23:43are doing it.
23:45This is not the reality.
23:47When the NA120
23:49was elected,
23:51when Nawaz Sharif
23:53was de-seated,
23:55two political parties
23:57were formed overnight.
23:59Why were they formed?
24:01In the same way,
24:03the 8th February election
24:05of 2024
24:07has also been facilitated.
24:09The people who are facilitating
24:11this should be named.
24:13Whether you punish them
24:15or not,
24:17at least bring them
24:19in front of the people.
24:21This is a big thing.
24:23Farm 47
24:25has been run on both sides.
24:27You are saying it has been run
24:29on both sides.
24:31That is interesting.
24:33One more thing
24:35Mr. Ishaq Dar has said.
24:37I want to come to Mr. Mian.
24:39Mr. Ishaq Dar is saying
24:41that Mr. Faiz has apologized
24:43for the injustice he was subjected to.
24:45Do you have any knowledge
24:47about this injustice?
24:49No, Anika.
24:51I don't have any knowledge.
24:53He can tell you better.
24:55It would be better
24:57if he answers the same.
24:59But you are very well informed.
25:01Mr. Mian.
25:03We know that you know
25:05a lot of people.
25:07If the Deputy Prime Minister
25:09is saying something like this,
25:11then he must have a certain
25:13background.
25:15I am sure you are aware of it.
25:19No, Anika.
25:21I think that
25:23we should talk about it later.
25:25Okay.
25:27The injustice
25:29that you are talking about,
25:31especially considering
25:33that PML-N
25:35and once again Mr. Mian
25:37has come to the field.
25:39It has been a long time
25:41that you have come to my program
25:43and demanded that Mr. Mian
25:45should come to the field.
25:47Today he has come to the field.
25:49Mr. Mian, what changes
25:51are going to happen?
25:53Why are you still
25:55trying to get me out?
25:57No, Anika.
25:59I think that
26:01Mr. Mian should come
26:03and speak again and again.
26:05I have not seen that stage yet.
26:07I think that
26:09the reason is that
26:11one institution
26:13has started self-establishment.
26:15And
26:17I wish
26:19when I used to say this
26:21in the 18-month government
26:23that facilitation is being done,
26:25people like you
26:27used to ask
26:29that you are a part of the cabinet
26:31and you are the government.
26:33Where is the facilitation coming from?
26:35Then after 9-10 May,
26:37you saw that self-establishment happened.
26:39Then you saw that
26:41the arrests have started since a week.
26:43I wish
26:45this would have happened long ago.
26:47But even now,
26:49even if it is late,
26:51even today,
26:53if you will start the
26:55soil and weeds program
26:57and let the rest remain,
26:59then you will not be able to
27:01maintain the trust of the nation.
27:03You will not be able to
27:05make Pakistan stand on its own feet.
27:07What you should do is
27:09that even if the political people
27:11are involved in this,
27:13even if the people sitting in the institutions
27:15are involved in this,
27:17even if they are retired or
27:19are present servers,
27:21the people who planned
27:232022 in front of GHQ
27:25that the rally should come,
27:27the people who planned
27:29that an appointment should be
27:31stopped and
27:33someone else should come,
27:35the people who planned
27:37for 9-10 May
27:39and the people involved.
27:41Today you are saying
27:43or I am saying that
27:45Faiz Ameer
27:47has a very long list of crimes.
27:49But there is a very long
27:51list of crimes.
27:53Who is the beneficiary?
27:55The beneficiary is Imran Khan.
27:57He has not received anything yet.
27:59But I want to say that
28:01Mr. Abbasi was saying that
28:03you have to prosecute.
28:05If you put someone in jail
28:07without prosecution,
28:09then why is the government
28:11not able to prosecute?
28:13There were riots in the UK.
28:15They started making decisions
28:17within days.
28:19They have been waiting here
28:21Tell me
28:23that you are talking about
28:25Europe.
28:27How did the Justice
28:29Department behave there?
28:31And how long
28:33did the other
28:35investigators take?
28:37Did you see any
28:39political involvement?
28:41No.
28:43And here political involvement
28:45or pick and choose
28:47has also happened among the accused.
28:49On 9th, 10th May,
28:51the people who started the riots,
28:53I can name many people
28:55who were released with money
28:57on the investigation stage.
28:59Many people
29:01were bailed out
29:03later.
29:05And even today, I am saying that
29:07if these people
29:09had not planned
29:11the intense
29:13protest of Bangladesh
29:15model,
29:17they would not have
29:19been arrested.
29:21The fact is that
29:23you have
29:25destroyed Pakistan.
29:27What do you call
29:29national enmity?
29:31National enmity is
29:33when you make someone
29:35the government and remove someone.
29:37No. National enmity is
29:39when you treat terrorists
29:41with your state.
29:43And this has happened twice.
29:45Who do you call a rebellion?
29:47You have a law
29:49to incite
29:51a rebellion.
29:53Rebellion has happened
29:55again and again.
29:57Why were they not arrested?
29:59Were they patriots?
30:01Was there international pressure?
30:03What was the pressure?
30:05What you are quoting
30:07is right.
30:09It has been a year and a half
30:11but the accused
30:13has not been acquitted.
30:15It is right.
30:17Who had to draw this conclusion?
30:19Was it the government?
30:21No. It was the courts.
30:23If there is international pressure,
30:25the people should be trusted.
30:27Look, the person who
30:29circulated the cipher is so safe
30:31and so
30:33trusted
30:35that the Congress
30:37of the people
30:39who he is
30:41unanimously
30:43supporting him.
30:45This is not a government failure.
30:47They are circulating the cipher
30:49and accusing Donald Loo
30:51but they have been so successful
30:53in their lobbying
30:55that the Congress
30:57has passed a resolution
30:59in favour of Pakistan.
31:01And our government
31:03is not able to do anything.
31:05All the state machinery
31:07and all the government
31:09at this time
31:11have not been able to
31:13counter it.
31:15One is doing something in the opposition
31:17and the other is not able to do anything in the government.
31:19No, no.
31:21Nika, please.
31:23I will tell you.
31:25What you are saying
31:27that the cipher is circulating
31:29and on the other hand
31:31Congress
31:33unanimously
31:35passes a resolution in favour of it.
31:37We should
31:39come here
31:41and tell the people
31:43that
31:45the company
31:47which they hired
31:49made such a big
31:51decision
31:53that they
31:55passed a resolution
31:57in favour of it.
31:59The thing is that
32:01CPAC phase 2
32:03CPAC 1
32:05and CPAC phase 2
32:07will be stopped
32:09just like it was stopped
32:11for three and a half years.
32:13There are many more things.
32:15I could have told you many more things
32:17but I want to say
32:19that those who work
32:21against the interests of Pakistan
32:23will be called
32:25friends of the country
32:27and enemies of the country.
32:29If you consider the country as an enemy
32:31then how will you treat it?
32:33How will you treat it emotionally?
32:35If you look at the past
32:37then many politicians
32:39have been given
32:41certificates of treachery.
32:43You must remember that
32:45Modi's slogan of treachery
32:47was used against you.
32:49Today if you are accusing
32:51Imran Khan or Pakistan of treachery
32:53that they are enemies
32:55of foreign powers
32:57then you will have to give
32:59some evidence for that.
33:01Yes.
33:03Anika,
33:05you have spoken very well.
33:07I will say three things
33:09and then you can decide.
33:11Tell me
33:13that in Pakistan's
33:1570 year history
33:17till date
33:19has there been any
33:21attempt of such
33:23rebellion
33:25during the appointment
33:27of the head of an institution?
33:29In Pakistan's 70 year history
33:31has there been any
33:33attempt of such rebellion
33:35during the appointment
33:37of the head of an institution?
33:39You have
33:41made Dafa unrecognizable
33:43and made him a hijacker
33:45and punished him.
33:47A ranger caught him
33:49and arrested him.
33:51Not once but four times.
33:53Did Nawaz Shiv
33:55say that
33:57go and protest
33:59those who arrested me?
34:01Imran Khan has already said this.
34:03Then what happened on 9th and 10th
34:05till date
34:07did anyone in Pakistan
34:09dare to do this? No.
34:11But if someone
34:13comes from outside Pakistan
34:15and creates a ruckus
34:17here at 2200 places
34:19you can see
34:21that
34:23if someone comes
34:25from outside Pakistan
34:27and creates a ruckus here
34:29then it is said that he is a terrorist
34:31and he will be punished.
34:33He did the same thing
34:35at 2200 places.
34:37He set fire to the planes
34:39at the base of Mianwali.
34:41The enemy did not dare to do this.
34:43Even after this
34:45you will call him a political worker.
34:47Let me be the devil's advocate.
34:49They do not believe that I did this.
34:51They do not believe that
34:53this was a false flag operation.
34:55They say that
34:57they were made to malign us.
34:59They say that the army is ours
35:01and we cannot do such a thing.
35:03Now,
35:05if they have done such a thing
35:07then you can prove it.
35:09Wait a second.
35:11I have heard that
35:13Imran Khan has repeatedly said this.
35:15Anika, please tell me
35:17whose video
35:19and audio
35:21are you referring to?
35:23Yasmeen Rashid or
35:25Ijaz Chaudhry
35:27or
35:29Khawateen.
35:31But
35:33what do you think
35:35about Aleema Baji?
35:37Please tell me
35:39that she is saying
35:41that I told you
35:43that you have to protest
35:45outside GHQ.
35:47She is saying
35:49that you have used
35:51petrol bombs
35:53from inside Ghazwan Park.
35:55The President of PTI,
35:57Purvej Lai,
35:59also used petrol bombs
36:01during his arrest.
36:03Then what should we wait for?
36:05Pakistan...
36:07Then we should not wait for anything.
36:09This is what I am asking.
36:11I am asking you.
36:13You are in the government.
36:15I cannot say anything.
36:17Look,
36:19the current government
36:21is like
36:23a strong gust of wind
36:25that can blow it away.
36:27They do not have
36:29a majority.
36:31But you have a two-thirds majority.
36:33The Jamaat
36:35has its innocent leader,
36:37its innocent leader,
36:39the Prime Minister,
36:41Nawaz Sharif.
36:43Were they able to save them in 2017?
36:45And what about the protests
36:47that took place in 2014?
36:49You will ask me again.
36:51I say this
36:53when you talk about the chart sheet.
36:55The chart sheet is
36:57Raheel Sharif,
36:59Zahirul Islam,
37:01General Pasha, General Faiz,
37:03General Bajwa,
37:05Saqib Nisar,
37:07Jazul Ahsan, Khosa Sahib,
37:09Bandyal Sahib,
37:11Good to see you.
37:13There are many people
37:15whose names you can trust.
37:17The chart sheet should be against them.
37:19If this work has started,
37:21then for God's sake,
37:23have mercy on Pakistan.
37:25The future generations
37:27should be trusted.
37:29You should bring everyone
37:31to justice
37:33without any discrimination.
37:35Interesting perspective.
37:37If anyone from my Jamaat
37:39was in contact with them,
37:41they should also be brought to justice.
37:43Who all were in contact
37:45with your Jamaat?
37:47Why were they in contact?
37:49One second.
37:51Let me tell you.
37:53Listen to my example.
37:55I say that
37:57if someone is talking
37:59from my Jamaat,
38:01then two or three years ago
38:03I used to say that
38:05there is facilitation.
38:07But there are many
38:09people from your Jamaat
38:11who used to say
38:13that they don't see facilitation.
38:15Today they are talking about facilitation.
38:17Then I will say
38:19that when they used to meet,
38:21why did they meet?
38:23Then I have a question.
38:25Here Khwaja Asif Sahib
38:27is repeatedly saying
38:29that there is no facilitation.
38:31You are saying that
38:33Khwaja Sahib used to say
38:35that there is no facilitation.
38:37There are many people
38:39from my Jamaat
38:41who used to say
38:43that there is no facilitation.
38:45I used to talk to them.
38:47The next day they used to come
38:49and stand in front of me.
38:51But today
38:53everyone was able to see
38:55that there is facilitation.
38:57It is a different matter
38:59that at that time
39:01someone had friendship with someone
39:03or at some point
39:05someone was in need.
39:07But I think that
39:09the matter should be discussed openly
39:11and in a proper manner.
39:13There was a commission
39:15regarding the Faizabad protest.
39:17There was a judgment
39:19of the Supreme Court.
39:21There was a reference file
39:23against the person who gave the judgment.
39:25Who got it done?
39:27The same person
39:29became the Chief Justice.
39:31He said that the evidence should be given.
39:33I think that
39:35if you want to remain silent
39:37on any issue,
39:39then why do you want to remain silent?
39:41I want to ask you
39:43because this statement
39:45is very important
39:47that both sides should
39:49follow Form 47.
39:51Mr. Nawaz Sharif
39:53did not make a big deal
39:55that is why he was silent.
39:57According to your expectation
39:59he did not break the silence.
40:01What is his end goal?
40:31Interesting.
41:01Interesting.
41:31Very interesting.
41:41Very interesting.
41:43Thank you very much
41:45for joining me in the program.
41:47After the break.
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