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Transcript
00:00The routine is the same since we joined journalism.
00:04I was a part of this newspaper before.
00:06I read Ahmed Bilal Mehboob's column in Dawn.
00:10Test for Fragile Democracy.
00:12This is in front of you.
00:14In this, Mr. Mehboob describes all the incidents.
00:20And especially the case of the special sessions.
00:24How the case started.
00:26He went to the courts.
00:27First Election Commission, High Court.
00:28Then Supreme Court.
00:29Supreme Court's decision came.
00:30After that, a law was passed again.
00:34And Supreme Court and High Court's order was said.
00:36Yes, it has happened.
00:38It doesn't matter.
00:39Election Commission should follow the old law.
00:42And in his concluding remarks,
00:44Mr. Mehboob says that it has become a combustible situation.
00:48It has become an environment.
00:49Such an environment, as they say in Punjabi,
00:52such an environment that there is a need to show the flame of fire.
00:56And the fire will rise.
00:58And this is a lot of weight on the system of Pakistan.
01:02On one hand, the Supreme Court's decision.
01:04And on the other hand, the Parliament is standing.
01:07Thank you very much, Mr. Mehboob.
01:08Sir, now we know everything.
01:12Everything is in front of us.
01:14There has been a lot of debate on this topic.
01:19What is the way forward?
01:21You have said that all the judges will come in September.
01:24Now they will decide whether the law of the Parliament will be implemented
01:29or their majority judgment.
01:31Meanwhile, minority judgment has also come.
01:33And minority judges say that the decision has been made.
01:36This is the law of the law.
01:37There should be no action on it.
01:39Being an experienced, you have done a lot of work on democracy.
01:46So how do we get out of this?
01:49How does this country have to move forward?
01:51Thank you very much, Mr. Govind.
01:54What I am saying now, I am saying it with great difficulty.
01:58And that may be politically incorrect to say.
02:03But the truth should be stated.
02:06The environment of polarization or hostility in our country at the moment.
02:13Both parties feel that they are in danger from each other.
02:18And they feel that their survival is in danger until the other party disappears.
02:25This is the big picture.
02:28The law passing in the Parliament is the matter of the judges.
02:32It is the matter of the court.
02:34These are all the titles.
02:37This is the big picture.
02:39What I have said in that is that the court that comes back,
02:45will it be able to pass the law and the court's decision will be accepted?
02:54Or will it overturn the law passed by the Parliament?
03:00There will be a great confrontation in both cases.
03:05The Supreme Court will have to act on the decision of the Supreme Court.
03:08The Supreme Court will say that there will be an indiscriminate court.
03:10Who will have an indiscriminate court?
03:12The Parliament's indiscriminate court is not possible.
03:15In such circumstances, when the Supreme Court's decision is not followed,
03:20then a situation will arise in which the decision will be followed
03:26which is in the Parliament's bill, in the Parliament's act.
03:30That is, those institutions should be distributed to other people.
03:33The two-thirds majority should be established.
03:36Indiscriminate court should be established.
03:38And the term of the Chief Justice should be determined.
03:42I think that those who may not be accepted by the court,
03:47those who may not be accepted by the public opinion,
03:50those who may not be accepted by the political parties,
03:53then such an atmosphere will arise in which,
03:56which I have called combustible, in which fire can be ignited.
03:59Okay, Mr. Mehboob, if we have to find an amicable solution to this,
04:03then what can it be in your opinion?
04:05That all parties should step back one step at a time.
04:08Obviously, the Supreme Court's decision is in play.
04:10That review petition has already come.
04:12Can the Parliament review it?
04:15I mean, find a solution.
04:17We are the fifth largest democracy in the world.
04:19We are a country of 250 million.
04:21The situation is on our security, on our eastern and western borders.
04:25Can we afford such indiscriminate political action?
04:28God forbid, God forbid, as you have described,
04:32that the situation in the country is completely combustible.
04:36Look, its solution is very simple.
04:39The solution is simple, that these sessions,
04:43the designated sessions,
04:45they are practically and in reality,
04:47and without any doubt, they are of the PTI.
04:51All those people who win,
04:53they win in the name of the PTI,
04:55despite all the opposition and difficulties.
04:58So, these sessions are made by them.
05:00So, I believe that in the spirit of law,
05:03and in the trust of the truth,
05:06these sessions should be given to the PTI,
05:08just like the Supreme Court's decision.
05:10That should be reviewed.
05:12And these sessions should be given to them.
05:14What storm will come out of it?
05:16I mean, the government is not changing anywhere.
05:19Okay, their numbers will increase,
05:21and they will not get a two-third majority.
05:23But a two-third majority, as history shows,
05:25is a very dangerous thing.
05:28The one who gets it, he is destroyed in his power.
05:31So, I believe that if they accept it,
05:33the matter can move forward.
05:35Okay, Ahmed Bilal sahib,
05:37thank you very much for your time.
05:39Hassan Ayyub, this situation has developed,
05:41and it is obvious that
05:43it has to be decided at some level.
05:46We spoke to you the other day,
05:48you also thought that the Supreme Court
05:50should accept the review petition.
05:52And it is a different situation,
05:54a difficult situation.
05:56And to get out of this,
05:58something has to be done.

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