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00:00You
00:04Is what's up, um the other way came on tonight we're on episode 9 we're 9 weeks in y'all so
00:12So we're gonna talk about the other way episode 9. We're gonna talk about a little bit of forbidden love
00:18If you didn't watch that, I hope you did. It's getting good. Honestly forbidden. Love is kind of getting good
00:23So if y'all aren't watching you should probably catch up on it. It's pretty good. So
00:27So we're gonna jump into that we're just waiting on Cara and
00:33Gina
00:35Then we're gonna get started
00:38Hey, um, Karen, hi. Oh Gina's here. Oh wait
00:48Hey Dario
00:50Hi, everybody. Hi geek in the kitchen
00:53Mr. Masi, you know, that's my dad's name didn't get
00:59Josh and Lily and we didn't get James and
01:03Tata this episode, but we got a little Shekinah and Sarper and
01:08their scenes were a kind of annoying to me because we are watching them on the other way, but they're clearly
01:16Going to be on 98 fiance because they've already
01:19Applied for the k-1 visa and they were telling his family about the k-1 visa and
01:24It just annoyed me. It gave me like flashbacks of Ariella and Vinny
01:28I'm when you know when they wanted to be on the show where they didn't really have any intentions of living there and
01:35Are living in Ethiopia and then they did the same thing. So it was kind of annoying but they got into a fight which I'm still
01:43Trying to understand what the fight was about
01:46Because it was really confusing it was about a
01:49vanity
01:50Situation and then he ripped out her hair extension and I'm like what's up with like the domestic violence on this show
01:57Lee right because I was like the first thing I thought of like why is he well, he took away her phone
02:03Domestic issue number one. Then she said he ripped out her hair extension and you know, sometimes hair extensions are like bone in
02:10So, I don't know the situation. I don't know if he just pulled it out. It was on a clip
02:14I don't know how that got out and then she's packing up her stuff and instead of like leaving the country
02:20She's just going to a hotel because you know, obviously they're still together. We know that they're here
02:24We know that they're filming
02:25We know that this isn't as serious as they want to make it out to me
02:28But their scenes like I just really feel like in my opinion
02:32There it's not as bad as like Angela and Michael, but they're very toxic, right? They're very toxic to watch
02:39They're very toxic to to follow along with and you can tell that you know
02:44She kind of should be in America with her daughter and it's like irritating knowing that that's somebody's mom
02:51Doing what she's doing and it's like I don't judge right? I don't tell people how to raise her kids
02:55I don't tell people how to live their life
02:57But it's just it's crazy to me that she dedicated her life to chasing after this man
03:02When she has a daughter who needs her and only for like three or four more years like her daughter's
03:07So close to the finish line, right like so close to being an adult and being on her own
03:12But I feel like she just gave up on her and I feel bad like the only person I feel bad for the whole situation
03:17There's a daughter, right?
03:19Absolutely
03:23Yeah, oh, yeah the dog the dog is cute
03:28Suitcases to take from the apartment to the hotel on their not joint birthday at all
03:34She literally moves to Turkey to raise a 43-year-old man, like I
03:40Can't let's talk about the joint birthday. So he's on the 20th. She's on the 21st
03:45I believe and they're saying since there's a big time difference
03:49They were born on like at the same time, but two years apart. I don't know how that works
03:54I mean, I know that like
03:57There's a big time difference. I don't know. I don't know. I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't
04:05And our time difference between LA and Turkey like I don't know
04:09Like we already know these people are beavis and butthead or dumb and dumber like choose your pick
04:14They're both the same. It's both the same pile
04:16But how they logically figured out in their demented little brains how they were born the same day
04:22But we are also talking about your China who can't figure out how to get a permit to work in Turkey as an esthetician
04:28So, you know
04:31This is true, well, I think they're trying to say like cuz you know how in China it's tomorrow
04:37So they're trying to say like it was the 21st in
04:42Turkey or you know, whenever she kind of was born. It was the next day in his country. I don't know
04:47Making me
04:52Which would make her birthday on the 24th first
04:55They're still not born at the same time because there's not exactly a 24-hour time difference
05:00So none of their math is mapping. So it's probably better that her daughter is off at boarding school and learning from
05:11That could be true I you know what I'm always like the family court judge and I'm like all kids need their mom
05:18There are certain
05:20Situations where the mom is not what the kid needs and we have to really open our eyes to that
05:26Then you might be right car
05:27The kid might be she might be lucky that the mom is all the way in Turkey and not specifically right over her hovering
05:35Because you know, we looked at Sophie and her mom and I think Claire really messed up Sophie, right?
05:41Like I feel like Sophie has so many
05:43Issues from her childhood and growing up and moving around a lot and never having stability that all came from Claire
05:49So it's like there are times where the mom not being present is the best gift that you can give your baby
05:57You know like, you know when I used to watch these these shows where the mom would give up the child for a duck
06:02You know, it's a very emotional and hard thing
06:04But the mom will tell their side of the story and it's literally the best gift right because the mom could be an addict
06:11Addiction, um, they could be homeless
06:13They can be so many different things and they're like I want to give my child the gift of a good life
06:16And so maybe I need to respect you kind of a little more
06:20Maybe she's giving her daughter the gift of not being in her life
06:24And we need to respect the fact that that's a nice gift to give somebody
06:28respect
06:31Respect is earned. That's a big that's a big word
06:36Well, I respect her giving her daughter the best shot at life, right?
06:42Like I think that's a gift
06:43Give me your children the tools they need to be successful and sometimes the tool they need is just absence from you
06:49Yeah, you know it sucks and it's like because I watched a lot of that family court judge show and it's really hard to watch
06:55But it's like sometimes the judge has to make really hard decisions, you know
06:59To make sure that that child is in the best situation possible and a lot of times their biological parents are not a part of that
07:05Equation, so I just want to now that you put it in that light. I'm like man, you're right because think about how
07:13Her relationships could rub off on her daughter
07:16Like how she thinks it's okay for Sarper to rip out her hair extension and she thinks it's okay for Sarper to tell him what?
07:21She can eat how much she should weigh and literally weigh her
07:25Humiliate her and weigh her after she like that is humiliating. So maybe it's best that her daughter is not present around
07:32but also how embarrassing for the daughter that your mother is doing this on national TV like
07:39She's putting this shit out there that she's this stupid
07:43No, you're right. There's literally
07:46There's no excuse for any of this none. She should not be at all. I
07:52Agree with you. I I
07:54Wanted them to be done when we saw them last season and then when I heard they were coming back
07:58I was so unenthusiastic
08:00Right, and it's like watching the scenes. I want to be I want to have an open mind
08:04I believe that it's it's only fair to have an open mind with everyone, but I just it's hard for me to be positive
08:10Watching them like they really irritate me and it's like only certain people, you know, I've been covering the show since oh my gosh
08:16I don't even know how my years and years only a handful of people can get underneath my skin
08:21And I just can't stand them and then they're on my list, right?
08:25It's a very short list, but they've made it onto my list and I just don't want to be around like their storyline
08:31I don't want to follow it only one other time
08:33Did I have people on the show?
08:36I think it was Ed and whoever he was with at the time
08:39I wouldn't cover them. Like I just wouldn't talk about it. I was like, I'm not gonna waste my breath
08:44talking about this and I think it was one other couple too and I was just like I'm not doing it and they're
08:49Recently did it for a long while. We did it with Nicole and Mockman. Oh, yeah
08:54Yeah, they're on my list to those two toxic people. They're on my list you I don't want to waste my breath
08:59It's like if you want to be in that type of situation
09:02I'm not gonna support or condone or even give you attention. You know, I just hate that
09:07Alright, so I want to talk about Jojo. So Joanne has made the trip to Ireland with her two sons
09:15and
09:17We found out tonight that Sean has a daughter. I think she's eight is what she's at. Her name is Bella
09:22I did we know that before it was new it was new information for me tonight
09:26So I could have just not been paying attention
09:28Yeah
09:31So she is also unaware that she's about to meet her stepmother
09:35As the boys are unaware that they're meeting their stepfather and he said something really funny. He was like
09:39I don't have a traditional job. I just raised my daughter. So I was like
09:44Is this a situation where Joanne is sending money to take care of him?
09:47That was the first thing it got to be completely wrong, right?
09:50But I was like, is this a situation where she's been financially supporting him all this time?
09:54That's why they got married and he has no actual intention of being with her
09:58But it just it popped into my head because I was like you have a daughter your car is nice
10:04You live in a nice place. You don't look like y'all need anything, but you said you don't have a job
10:07So I'm just kind of wondering what's the situation and you're you're specifically into
10:14Milfs, you know and milfs have their life together. They have their finances together, you know, they have money in the bank
10:21You know, they they are not a 23 year old girl, right 23 year old girl is a
10:26Whole different situation than a woman you would consider a milf. She has a career
10:30She had well minus she kind of raised minus her but usually a milf has a lot going on
10:35So I'm just I'm just curious. What do y'all think is going on job wise with him?
10:40You think he's just the MMA fighter because they do get paid like thousands and thousands of dollars per fight
10:45This whole episode has me so off. I can't first of all, where's Josh and Lily?
10:50They're the only ones I want to see
10:52second of all
10:55We're just finding out that he's got a daughter a little daughter
10:59Her son is little and she's just going to move to another country and leave him behind
11:05those kids are gonna feel like my mom is leaving to go be a mom to someone else and it just
11:12It's not right. It just pisses me out the second. I found out he had a daughter
11:17I can only imagine how these kids feel I would be so upset and I realized there's a whole joint custody thing and blah blah
11:24blah, but you can't
11:27Joint custody doesn't mean you can just up and move the country and just leave your kids behind. That's not okay
11:33well
11:34No, it's legally you can you have?
11:37Well, I think you have to get the other parent to give you permission, right?
11:40Even if you don't take the child because you basically need to sign over rights, isn't that how it works?
11:46is
11:48Morally, you can't move to another country because if if my kids
11:54Okay, my kids are adults but thinking back to when they were little if I I wasn't even okay
12:02Excuse me going out of town for the day because if something happened to my children
12:07I needed to be there the second something happened
12:10So if I'm in another country and
12:13something happens and then I've got a book of flight and hope that I can get one and then
12:19Fly for however many hours or days or whatever and then hope I can get a ride from the airport and then hope and then
12:25Hope and then hope that that is never going to be okay in my book. It just
12:30I
12:31agree when I
12:33Saw how small her little I want to call him small a little her youngest son was for some reason
12:38I didn't notice it on the first episode when they were all eating at the table when when they were getting on the plane and
12:44I saw how tiny he was. I was like, this is crazy
12:47The idea of him losing his mom goes first of all, she's not with their dad
12:51No, he's got one steady parent present and then taking that stability away from such a small child
12:58it's just it can leave such a
13:00Devastating emotional impact right? Yeah, and it might not seem that serious. She's like, oh well
13:05I'll just leave for this many weeks to come back. You need to be there kids have
13:10Basketball sports, they have all these things that you need to be present for and yeah
13:15It doesn't seem like much if you miss a recital you miss a play you miss a game or one thing
13:20You would be surprised how many therapists would tell you that those small events?
13:26Have made such a long-lasting emotional impact on that child
13:29They're talking about that in therapy for months and months and months trying to process seeing everybody else's mom and dad
13:35There because I did that when I was okay
13:37So when I graduated from eighth grade, I was in Louisiana's look like an eighth grade graduation my dad
13:43showed up to the graduation which was great and he brought his new wife and his new family and
13:50See that was like not okay for me
13:53Like I wanted it to be about me and I felt like why would you bring them?
13:58When it was about me and in my opinion, I needed him to just not be there
14:02Yeah, you know because and I had to go through therapy and we talked about it and it was like a whole thing
14:07So I can't imagine and I was going into the ninth grade and that's how much it affected me
14:12This little kid is way way younger than that. Like so the idea
14:17That your mom the only steady parent that you have in your life can be in another country
14:22With not not a phone call away. Not a car right away not in the next room, but in another country
14:27I don't even know how a child will process that
14:30Right and there's so much to process because your parents were together you're born
14:36You've got your sibling then your parents split up then your mom gets a new boyfriend
14:40That's hard enough, but then you find out your mom's new boyfriend is in another country
14:45But then you find out that your mom's new boyfriend is in another country. It's not actually her boyfriend
14:50They're actually married, but then you find out not only is he in another actually married
14:55But she's moving there to raise his daughter and you get to stay behind
14:58So these poor kids I feel so bad for these kids there is a lot of red flags
15:04Even you guys have pointed it out in earlier
15:08Episodes with him like there's just something about him. There's just something about him you indeed
15:14Like car indeed. He kept on saying there's just something about him
15:17I can't put my finger on it and the fact they've been married two
15:21Years and they've hit it from everybody the most important people in their lives
15:26Which is their children?
15:27She didn't care less about her kids apparently because she's willing to jump and go on a plane
15:32But as we mentioned before last week, how are you gonna do that every every month like how where's this good magic?
15:39Ain't come gonna come from so and he didn't look like he had for MMA
15:44He didn't look like he had those cauliflower ears like usually they have like those cauliflowers. Yeah
15:50He's pretty put together so I don't know about that
15:55That's a good point his face looked in pretty intact for a MMA person
16:00I have friends that fight in MMA and they have like you said they have two cauliflower ears and they've got bruises everywhere
16:07And there's usually a puffy area of the face because they're always fighting you're right
16:12He didn't look like he was getting punched in the face often. It's a look brand-new. Did y'all catch it?
16:17It's a brand-new like probably way more expensive than Angela's teeth. These were good teeth
16:23And I'm thinking that
16:32Did you read that, you know the white part of her teeth on the bottom where it's all weird did you actually happen
16:41No, she got her dentures and she put them in the dishwasher
16:46I
16:51Use
16:53What made her think that you can put your dentures in the dishwasher what
17:03There's a
17:05Special solution that you use to clean them. It's literally made specific for that
17:09So it's the increases the longevity of use that's like, oh my I don't even know how you
17:16I don't know what what made her think that was okay. And then so that explains it because there was a lot of different
17:22Rumors going around of why they look that way
17:25But that makes it because it kind of looked like they were in upside down at one
17:33Melted the top part. Yep. I see it
17:37I
17:40Speculations about it that she had to address it that she I'm in the dishwasher and blah blah blah
17:47Like not only not only did she ruin these dentures
17:50but now you have to throw away all those dishes and the dishwasher and burn the house down like I mean
17:57But why didn't she order more why was she just still wearing them?
18:01That was my question because she had to know being on television and being you know
18:06She's not the most loved person on the show that people are looking for a reason to say something negative about you
18:13So what made her think it would be okay to just put those back in and go on TV
18:17The first thing I would have been with order more
18:20Because I knew people were gonna be waiting for me to show up looking like that so they could
18:25Destroy little way. They're probably on my own way. She couldn't find it at Dollar Giant or Dollar Tree or not
18:34These are the same ones that she got on the show, right
18:37Do you remember she went to a dentist on the show because she was hitting on the dentist remember?
18:41She always hit on every doctor ever that it was like, yeah, it was like a younger dentist
18:46I remember so these are the ones that he did on the show, right?
18:49So they were free because we watched it
18:52They were literally free if they're filming it. It's free. So she couldn't just purchase a pair
18:59How much did they cut? Okay question are they expensive is expensive to get those made?
19:14Because a
19:15Dental implant because I had to get a dental implant when I lost the tooth it cost
19:22$12,000 so $500 is like groceries. That's
19:29My benefit cover my dental that was what I paid out of pocket. So oh, that's what you paid out of pocket. Okay
19:36well, my
19:38implant was
19:3912,000 and I think I paid three thousand out of pocket a
19:43Complete set of dentures without insurance cost between 15 and $30,000
19:51Whoa, are you serious?
19:54Okay. Now I understand
19:57Yeah, I get it
20:07With a partial and then
20:12Implants and supported dentures are between three thousand and thirty thousand. Oh
20:18Oh
20:19So implants with this, I don't think she got any implants. I think it was just injures, right?
20:24I don't remember getting it implants. So
20:27All the money that she's made Mike. Let's let's be real. She's been on the show for seven years
20:32She could have easily just had another pair of me. I don't know, you know, she's
20:41See that's that too I didn't I thought you had to go to the dentist. Can you just order it online?
20:47I I don't know, but I'm assuming that I
20:51I just I don't know. I just I don't know. I would rather go to
20:57spirit Halloween and get the
21:00Vampire
21:13$80. Yeah, I would pay the $80 before I put on TV looking crazy because I know people are just waiting for me to do
21:19Something so they can destroy me, right?
21:21Like that's the whole point like if you're on TV you do anything in the public people are just waiting for you to one thing
21:26There's one slip-up so they can drag you across the ground in the mud for one thing that you did and I'm just like no
21:33I'm not giving you permission to drag especially when you're the most hated person in America. Well, right
21:39You know, like if you have a reputation of
21:42Irritating everyone that has a television you would think that you would steer clear
21:48Of all she didn't even start by ironing her face and then she adds
21:53This is a whole shit show all on its own did you say iron her face?
21:58Well, something needs to be done. How do you I are you?
22:07Okay, so I want to I want to talk about this Sean character right because I know I have like
22:16My
22:18Suspect
22:19Senses, what do you call it? Like I think his daughter called him sus. Yeah, he's very serious to me at this point
22:25And I'm just like I'm trying to understand, you know, what's going on with?
22:30This situation with Joanne. I don't want him. I want to believe that she's not funding his life, but I also believe that
22:38She would do that right like if she would marry him and not tell anybody
22:42I think she's probably sending him money. And I think that's the whole situation and then the fact that
22:48She's a secret from his family his daughter. He's a secret from her family, whatever
22:52That's that's suspect too. But I think when he said that I don't have a job
22:56I mean, I don't want to say that he said I don't have a job
22:58He said I don't have a typical nine-to-five job
23:00He said I just my full-time job is taking care of my daughter, which is amazing
23:04I stand behind that but somebody's paying your bills and somebody bought your teeth, right?
23:10I guess I don't know that he owns any type of business or anything. He never said that he was an entrepreneur
23:16So I'm trying to figure out who's supporting you and the only person gullible enough in the situation that I'm looking at is Joanne
23:23Right. She's the only person that comes to mind who's taking care of you because he said that his daughter's mom
23:28They split a long time ago. They don't have any communication. She's obviously not paying child support, you know
23:34So it's like what's going on?
23:35And I'm just really worried that she's gonna put all of her money into this relationship and then he's gonna leave her ass like that's
23:41What I'm really worried about because she's she's got kids
23:43She's got a life to maintain for these children
23:46And if she gets all of her money and all of that she has for a guy who's using her
23:50She's screwing over her kids the whole thing
23:53Such a weird dynamic. I they're not gonna make it. I mean, they're just oh wait
23:58The diva speak says housing benefit is a lot better in Ireland in the UK than it can
24:04Oh, so maybe he gets like free housing
24:11All that I
24:12Mean, that's very possible because just because he looks well put together doesn't mean that he's rich
24:18You know, like you can take care of yourself really really well and have the bare minimum
24:23Like income I've met people. You know, what's funny? I had friends back in Ohio
24:28They were like on the housing assistance and everything and I would go to their house the cleanest house
24:33most beautiful immaculate clean home
24:37Beautiful furniture they took care of they appreciated and took care of what they had
24:41They didn't have a lot of money, but you never would have known it unless they told you so it's very well
24:46You know, he could be living, you know on a housing benefit or whatever, but I don't know
24:50I think it's probably her money that my that's just where my mind went
25:02This is not our first rodeo we've been watching this show for a long time
25:06We know we there's key words that we listen to and we look for right and when he was like, I don't have a job
25:12I was like, oh, here we go
25:13Here we go. I already know where we're going. It's the same Dan yelling Muhammad
25:18Like I know the road that we're going and it's like obviously he probably doesn't want to come here
25:24But you know neither did as on right as Nicole wanted he wanted Nicole's money
25:29Remember, he wanted to open a store and he wanted all this stuff
25:32He had no interest in moving here, but she really changed his life over there
25:36She gave him so much and the money was worth more
25:38So I was like he's probably just getting what he's gonna get then it crossed my mind like well
25:42What if he's talking to other milfs?
25:44Like what if she's not the only one
25:55Yeah
25:58That was his friend it made me think that lots of friends come to visit and
26:03he doesn't tell Bella anything because they're just his friends and then the women come to Ireland thinking that they're in a
26:09relationship and they're giving him money and they're taking him on trips and they're
26:12Taking care of them and then they go back to the u.s
26:15And then he plans another trip with another milk
26:17And like you said that is a full-time job when you're lying that at many women at once
26:21That's a full-time job. You got to make sure you have the time to pull that off. Yo Han did that, you know
26:27This is a very complicated
26:30Profession, you know because women are very intelligent
26:32So you got to be really intelligent to trick that many women at once, right?
26:35I mean, I don't know these shows are making women look less intelligent by the name. That's
26:43True
26:45But they don't represent all women they just represent
26:52They do you're right
26:54I wish I wish that and I think that a lot of people in other countries are watching it and they're thinking that
27:00American women are gullible and easy to take advantage of and every now and then they come across a woman that isn't
27:06But a lot of more often than not
27:08They are and I think a lot of it is because American men have driven
27:12American women so far up the wall with them that they they are looking in other places and I feel like they're they're
27:19Gullible and they're easy to manipulate and I think unfortunately they get caught, you know
27:24Like Danielle got caught with Mohammed and you know
27:27They just get caught up in what sounds good because they're so used to assholes, you know, American men can be really
27:33Assholes, right? They just be really horrible people. Oh
27:36So I want to talk I want to talk about Corona because Corona is meeting Inky's parents for the first time and
27:43She's really worried about how they're going to feel like I guess in a easier sense. She thinks they're gonna be massive racist
27:51Basically because she's like, oh she's I don't think they've had a black person in their house
27:55And they don't know black people and I'm gonna say this in the nicest way. Okay, like
28:00But
28:06Corona is the farthest from a black person that you're gonna get like I get that like physically
28:13She's a black woman
28:14But like she's basically she kind of like a valley girl and a black girl's body
28:20Cuz she's like, oh, I hope they like black people and I was like, well, you know, I like 50 percent, you know
28:25like
28:40Well, didn't she say when they were walking in the house
28:43She's like what if I fall and break my leg?
28:45I'm thinking that's very possible the fact that how you're dressed on
28:49Walking on like a sheet of ice that is that's literally on the table right now. You're probably
28:55Country I don't own a single pair of heels. I don't think I could walk in heels
29:02But much less in the winter time would I ever try that?
29:07No, I mean I lived in Ohio and there was a sheet of ice a lot and I would wear
29:12weather appropriate shoes like boots and shoes with um
29:16Traction and I still fell and bust my ass more than once. Okay, like let's just be real
29:20I fell I walked out of my house thought everything was good
29:23My ass was on the ground and I was wearing very weather appropriate you cuz you black eyes is literally black eyes
29:29You can't see it
29:29I just walk out and you're just you're in your feet are in the air you're in your back is on the ground and you're
29:34Like am I dead? Yeah
29:37Okay, can I walk you just don't know you just don't know and the fact that she was so
29:43Worried about whether or not her parents are going to like her was funny because I was like you should be more worried about
29:48Why you moved all the way to Iceland for a man who hasn't proposed to you yet?
29:52No, that's an official on social media. Like I know
29:58Not everybody does it or whatever but the fact that he hasn't acknowledged that factor can also pose a red flag
30:05but I don't know not everybody's like into that whole social media in a relationship with a couple I
30:11Beat it, but I don't do it. So so her
30:16Parent her mom his mom touched her hair
30:18I told y'all the story about the hair thing with me before like for black people
30:22That is a thing like touching your hair is like thing
30:24But I think that the mom was more so doing it in an endearing way. I mean, I guess it's still
30:32Still questionable, right? Like you don't just walk up to people and touch their hair. It's like weird and it is a
30:39Black thing cuz I remember I told y'all went to a white school and that was like the first thing all the girls want
30:43To do is touch my hair. I think that is the thing but it's also like oh, I don't know how to explain it
30:48You know like cuz it's it's like a learning process for people
30:50But also you don't want to be the the test dummy for their learning
30:54So it's like it's like an awkward situation, but she let them she let her touch your hair
30:57She's like, oh, I'll let her touch my hair. It's totally okay
31:00And I was like, well
31:01Were you gonna make a scene and like yell at her for touching your hair when you're first meeting them when you really want her
31:07To like you, you know, like
31:11Worried about them not liking a black person one day
31:14They literally don't give a shit if you're black or if you're brown or if you're white they don't care
31:20No, but they don't see color. They just hug you and
31:24You you're so beautiful and touch your hair and because they don't see a lot of black people
31:30So they might not know that that's wrong. So whatever you're so pretty whatever. I
31:35Think that she's always worried about the wrong stuff right in my opinion like her worries are always off base
31:42Like they've only been together four months her real worry should be why is she living there after four months of knowing some like that's
31:49The real issue like from the therapy side of things, you know, like why are you here for months?
31:55you've packed up and left and given up on your dreams for four months of a
31:59Relationship and then you've only spent like what 13 days like actually together and you decided that you could give up
32:05Being a midwife for this person who didn't even propose like there's where the issue lies
32:10that's what needs to be worked out and then the mom's like
32:13Oh, we were like grandkids and I'm like, they need to figure out if they're even dating because he hasn't even made it like
32:18Official like they have way more stuff to work on and also what's with parents like trying to get grandkids
32:25Too fast, like she knows they've only been dating for four months
32:28Like that's way too early to be pushing for grandkids left that people get to know each other first
32:34And I
32:39Well, yeah, she's definitely not his cousin because she's black so she's definitely not
32:44It hasn't so that probably made them really excited because they're like we're gonna have like totally normal grandkids, right?
32:52They're like totally normal. No weird bloodline stuff going down like totally normal
32:56So that probably excited them a lot because they already have great kids. We didn't make them good for them
33:01Yeah, your kids off the TV. It's so important
33:04I think and tell that people are learning in a way
33:09Yeah, I'm sure they'll pop up but I think that in the long run people really need to start keeping their kids off the TV
33:17I think that a lot of the I was watching a tick-tock from a girl from
33:21Unexpected going off because she people are saying stuff about her kids and I was like see I
33:26Understand that's off-limits, but I do understand that you signed up and let people film your kids, you know
33:31It's like 50 50 50 percent is on the disgusting people at home doing it
33:35But 50% is on you because that baby's fully your responsibility to protect and you let people put that baby everywhere
33:43It's like yeah, those people are disgusting
33:45But you know, they would have nothing to work on if you didn't give them the material, you know
33:50As much as a Jasmine my skin crawl I will give her all the credit in the world for not putting her son on there
33:57With a disability. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I respect. Yeah, I respect Jasmine for that
34:02And it took her the longest time that you've been put once a show
34:05She we had seen her for like two seasons before she even let them film that one scene
34:09And that was right before she was leaving or whatever. Yeah, I mean people they have
34:16Personal lives that are complete disasters
34:18But a lot of times there's some good mothering in there and I respect that right like I respect the good mothering
34:24Jasmine is a good mom of her babies. I don't know, you know to what extent good
34:29I'm not gonna say great
34:30But like I think that she's taking steps to protect them and I think that's what makes a good mother is that's what's up?
34:36Kobe Kobe, I just want to say real quick
34:39I respect the fact that you stood up for Michael and I wanted to make it known that you didn't condone the
34:47Situation going on around you and I know a lot of you all did that at the tell-all because they didn't show it all
34:52But I think that it was really it showed that
34:55you cared about him as your brother and I think that was really important and I feel like
35:00Everybody is really really happy to see the way that you stood up for Michael because he was he was literally alone
35:06In a war zone and he really needed backup and you were that backup for him. So we really appreciate that Kobe
35:15Like whole new
35:19But whole new respect for you after yesterday
35:22Say definitely
35:24like mind blown with all like you were basically Michael's voice Kobe a voice that he couldn't speak for himself so
35:32You deserve it. I
35:34Agree I feel like when that's how you know
35:37You're true friends and people truly care about people who stand up for you
35:41When it doesn't benefit them in any way and it literally benefited you in no way
35:46It literally almost got you hit but you were standing up for what you know
35:50And what we all know is the right thing and we stand a hundred percent. I do we stand behind you
35:55You were all of us. You were all of us
35:57You were standing for us because that's what we all wanted to do and you did that for us. I just
36:04Would have been a lot different
36:08We gotta keep Carl we got to keep you out of handcuffs
36:20I wish I was face to face with her. Yeah, that would be worth it. See car and eating
36:26double action
36:27George get your credit card ready
36:34I
36:35Just keep it on me. I never know what's going on
36:37So, oh so Sattler and Dempsey were back and Sattler was in a better mood
36:42So this is like the calm before the storm
36:44so we were watching like their first night and then the first morning on the
36:49Thing and I'm gonna call it a bus but it's a van
36:52It's actually a lot nicer than I gave credit for but the the little stuff is gonna start happening next week
37:00So this was a pretty uneventful
37:02Episode for them, but we saw that
37:05Stadler found out that Dempsey had more money saved up than she was aware of
37:09So there's like little things that are coming that are coming to the light because apparently the van is fully in Dempsey's name
37:16But Stadler paid for half and then Stadler didn't have a lot of money. So she took out a loan
37:21She borrowed money from her job
37:23And then she comes to find out that Dempsey had more money that she had that she did not back
37:29What I said last week
37:31We don't know what she got for her house and all the shit. She sold she sold everything
37:38Well, I didn't need to because you know, she's she's the end-all be-all save-all
37:45Well, I think that
37:48You're gonna yeah
37:51I think that
37:54The situation is a lack of communication
37:57Because when you're when you're entering into such a big financial responsibility with another person
38:02Everything should be discussed like say the van cost
38:06$30,000 they should have had I'm gonna pay 15. You're gonna pay 15
38:10We're both gonna be jointly on the title like there needed to be
38:15Information documented because they're not married. Okay. This is not community property. This is just two
38:22individuals entering into
38:25Agreements financial agreements with nothing to back it up. So like Statler is gonna realize later when she decides
38:32She doesn't want to be with Dempsey Dempsey gets to walk away with everything in the situation because it's hers
38:37Legally on paper the title is gonna say it's hers
38:39No
38:39there's no proof that Statler paid half because Statler probably gave the money to Dempsey and Dempsey probably
38:46Took the title and transferred everything into her name on our own
38:50So it's like how I feel like the lack of communication is really what got Statler here
38:55Statler is not gonna agree with me
38:57She's gonna say that Dempsey's a liar and she's a scammer and she's a cheat and she's a victim
39:01but I do believe and this situation Statler is a victim because of her lack of
39:07Participation and what was going on right? Like she doesn't know she didn't ask that like hey, you sold your house
39:13How much did you get? Yeah, you sold your car. How much did you get? I have oh
39:17I have four thousand dollars that I'm bringing with me
39:19How much do you have like there?
39:21She didn't educate herself on what was going on and what she was getting into and now like, of course
39:26It's blowing up in her face
39:28But your lack of interest in knowing what was going on is how you got here
39:32You know that you need to be asking every single question
39:35I would never in a million years go half on a purchase of anything
39:39Thousands of dollars worth that I'm not gonna have any stake in right like I would need to be on the title
39:45Like there's so much that we would have to discuss before you got any of my money, right?
39:50Yep, and Tina's 100% right Sattler always plays victim. It doesn't matter what it is on the show
40:00Yeah, I've noticed that from the last season you guys know it's weird that she did this season cuz last season she
40:07complained greatly about the way she was portrayed on the show and
40:12Plaining even more but she's doing it live on tik-tok. Yeah
40:18I mean, she is smack-talking TLC. She's smack-talking Dempsey. She's obviously going rounds with Kenny and Armando
40:26Like she's always the victim. She's stirring
40:31Everyone's a target for her and she made some pretty serious allegations. She said that um,
40:37They didn't accommodate her because you know, she has um, I think she's an ADHD and um, she's um mildly autistic
40:44And she was like, oh they were forcing me to work and not accommodating me and I couldn't go to the bathroom
40:50Like she's making some pretty serious
40:53Accusations against them and I don't you know
40:55I was asking other cast members and stuff and I was like
40:58Do you think that they weren't accommodating and they were like, well, first of all filming can be long
41:02You know filming can be 5 hours 10 hours 15 hours depending on you know
41:07The date who your crew is where if you're filming and it's night and you have to stop or if it's daytime
41:12It starts raining. There's so many different aspects of it and they were like, well if you need a break
41:18They were like when we filmed I I would say I need a break or sometimes they would say do you want to take?
41:2315 minutes like so the fact that she's saying that they're
41:27Forcing her to work and they're forcing her to film for hours and hours hours. No breaks. No bathroom
41:31No sleep the other cast members were like I just I've been filming for years and I've never experienced that
41:37So a lot of people just like she's like you said she wants to be a victim and she's making
41:42Statements that would make her look like a victim
41:44I don't know what's really going on
41:46But other cast members said like yeah, we filmed 15 16 17 hours before but they gave us time to eat
41:52They gave us time to go to the bathroom. We could sit and take a breather
41:54If I smoke they let me smoke like what she's saying doesn't sound like what we experienced. So it's really interesting
42:01They are also
42:02Filming your life
42:04so in your life
42:06You use the restroom in your life you eat in your life
42:10You get dressed in your life. You sleep if if you choose to let that be on camera, that's on you
42:16But just because it wasn't shown on tv that you were going pee
42:22Doesn't mean they didn't give you a bathroom break
42:24Right
42:26She was in that bathtub scene and we're you know, she soiled herself in there, but that's a different conversation
42:33the diva
42:34Yes, even even ashley emmanuel got time for a bathroom break
42:39well, yeah, I think that like y'all said she's
42:42she's playing the victim and being the victim calls for
42:47Sympathy and a sad story and making people feel bad
42:50And it's like I do feel bad that the relationship that she put so much time and money it didn't work out
42:55but I also feel like she's partly responsible for that for her lack of
43:00um planning lack of communication lack of follow-through lack of
43:05Education knowledge backfinding like he she literally just you know how there's two types of friends, right?
43:11I tell this to my friends all the time
43:12There's the friend who plans the trip buys the ticket has the itinerary make sure everything is going to go correctly
43:18And then there's the friend who shows up and just says how much do I owe you?
43:21Statler is the friend who just shows up and says how much do I owe you? They don't ask any questions
43:26They don't want to know which airline they don't want to know how you booked it. They don't they don't care
43:31They're just like how much do I owe you?
43:34How much do I owe you and then turns around and bitches to everyone else that I was overcharged
43:40Yes that you nailed it. You nailed it
43:43Just like yeah
43:44When you go to the car lot and you pay sticker price
43:46And then you find out that you could have asked them to drop it down five thousand dollars
43:50But you pay sticker price and then you go and complain to everybody that you have to pay sticker price. That's exactly right
43:54She literally asks no questions doesn't negotiate wants to know nothing and then complains about this the raw deal
44:01Absolutely that she got
44:03And I feel like at some point people are going to catch up if they haven't already that she's just full of crap
44:08Right like you can't be the victim in every story that you tell like every
44:12Story that she's ever told she was a victim of all her past relationships all her business deals everything. She's been the victim of something
44:19Absolutely every single thing she's ever said
44:24Well
44:25I know it's gonna get interesting because starting next week
44:28Well, probably not next week because they're gonna jump back over to josh and tata are james and tata and josh and lily
44:33But we're gonna get some of the real stuff going down with who we know what happened
44:37You know statler and dempsey are not on speaking terms, obviously
44:40so we're gonna get into the fun stuff soon when statler realizes that she just funded a really fun trip for for dempsey and
44:49Dempsey's gonna walk out scott free with no debt and I think that's gonna really hit her hard
44:54but you know, you gotta you gotta do your homework you have to
44:58Don't let because statler actually it's funny because she said in one of the earlier episodes
45:03That she always let people run her over in relationships and she felt she had to pay
45:07And she had to do more for people to love her and then she keeps falling. She's acknowledged
45:12That she does that but she's also
45:15Doing it again, you know, and it's like when you know that you have an issue and you know
45:18You're doing something that's to hurt you you try to correct it and it's like she's she's just repeating the cycle
45:24Yeah, you know and I feel bad for that. That's definitely something that you know, I hope that she can overcome
45:29I don't want her to always get screwed over right, but I want her to to learn how to stand up for herself
45:35Yeah
45:36Also real real quick. I want to talk about some of this. Um forbidden love. We only got a few minutes though. So
45:43Um elmer and lindsey went to his parents house. They weren't home
45:46Um, but he didn't let the cameras go there, which I thought was a good thing because you know
45:51Cameras are strictly prohibited in their first of all in their community, but in their religion
45:55They could be shunned for having cameras on their property period
45:59Um, but they talked to his siblings and the siblings were supposed to tell the mom and dad that they were there
46:05How did y'all feel about the sneak attack on the parents?
46:07Did y'all feel like that was too much? I because I felt like they should have wrote a letter first
46:12Absolutely. I'm still pissed about it and I was pissed last week when it was happening
46:17Yeah, and I think it's a big like it's a delicate subject and it's done with baby steps, basically
46:24I feel like
46:26She's forcing him
46:28To communicate with his parents just like I said last week. Yeah, she's forcing it. We want to meet parents
46:34We want to tell them we're pregnant blah blah blah this episode. She says
46:38I i'm raising a child. I need a man to raise a child with I can't raise you, too
46:44Well, then girl, you shouldn't have got with somebody that's 23 and has no life experience
46:49exactly
46:51like
46:53Realistically, he's 13. Yeah, because he was
46:57He was raised in such a a sheltered way. He's 23, but like up here
47:02He's like 13 years old and she if she's looking for a man, she was looking in the wrong place
47:07I don't know what miracle she was expecting to happen when she got together with him because
47:12kind of have to
47:14Shelf like he looked like everyone says like he went to sheltered life you have to
47:19Like, you know, she's be more patient to say taking care of another child. What did you anticipate was going to happen?
47:25She says he's really aggressive and she's having to tell him to brush his teeth and do the normal things
47:31Well, that's not shit he had to do when he looked at home so that stuff he's learning
47:36it's just like when your baby's born you're going to have to
47:40Potty train them you're going to have to teach them to brush their teeth and use a spoon and all the things and that's essentially
47:48What you're getting if you just have a baby out in the woods and you never talk to them ever
47:53They have no communication with anybody
47:56You can't bring them out into the real world and expect them to hold a conversation or even know how to speak
48:01And that's what she's doing
48:03She's pulling him out of the dark and putting him into the light and expecting it just to be magic
48:08And it's not gonna happen. Yeah
48:10I just I I disagree with how she's making him
48:14Feel that he should feel bad for not being
48:17more advanced in life when
48:19She picked a muslo. I'm sorry. Uh
48:21Amish boy
48:23Amish boy, he's not even really a man and and it's like she could have chose anyone right?
48:28Like she could have chosen why she chose him. She knew his situation
48:31She knew his background and she did it anyway, and now she's holding him accountable for things that he can't control
48:38And he's right like he said she forced him into having a baby
48:41She kept nagging him and said my biological clock is ticking and blah blah blah
48:46So he doesn't know any better, you know, but he's like, oh, okay. Well, then I guess we need to do it
48:51you know, it's
48:53That's exactly it. She's abusing him in in a form. It's it's more. Yeah
48:59it's like
49:00Manipulative abuse right like manipulating. She's okay. So I want to talk about
49:05She's she's got him under her thumb
49:08I want to talk about this shabbat real quick. We only got like a few minutes, but apparently in the orthodox jewish
49:15Um religion from saturday friday night to saturday
49:19There's something called shabbat where you can't do any work and i'm obviously not jewish
49:23But I really like the idea that I don't have to do anything for like a whole day and it's okay
49:29Hold on because I have a whole different thought on that really that's great
49:33You don't have to do anything for a whole day, but you gotta work your ass off the day before to prepare for that
49:40That's so much extra work
49:41If you want to go you got to go shut off your light your fridge and take that shit down and tear your toilet paper
49:46And you're doing too much to prepare for a day off
49:49like I would rather
49:51Do nothing and be able to eat what I want out of my fridge and tear the toilet paper as I need it
49:56I mean, you're right. You're right. It's it's like you don't do any work, but you do
50:01The bulk of it the day before so it's not really a day off. Yeah, I mean I I get it but I don't
50:07I like the idea when they were explaining. I was like, oh, I don't I can blame my religion on not doing stuff
50:12But then you're right the preparation is
50:16You can't do anything you can't be in a car you can't cook you can't blah blah blah
50:22So essentially you have to walk
50:25And or ride a scooter
50:27To wherever you're going which is more work than getting in your car
50:31You have to go to a fast food restaurant which costs you money because you can't cook
50:35But you still have to walk your happy ass to mcdonald's to get your burger
50:40Then you gotta come home and if you have any leftovers, you have to put it in your black fridge
50:45And then if you get diarrhea from your fast food, you can't even shit because you forgot to tear your toilet paper
50:57You can but you have to walk around with mud butt I think you said you just walk around but you can still go
51:04You can't it's preferable that you have a bidet you need to have a bidet or else then you'll get the mud butt
51:10It's yeah, yeah, you know, i'm a bidet person all my bad looks have bidet
51:15But I I don't know it was it's funny because the religion that I grew up in
51:20It was a little we had like a friday night saturday night thing where we I couldn't watch tv on friday nights or saturday
51:25um, we couldn't go like
51:27Out like anything recreational it had to be like a day of rest is what my religion called it, but we could cook
51:35Um, we could go to the bathroom and use our like we could do that stuff. So it wasn't as extreme
51:39But like I couldn't watch tv. I couldn't listen to music unless it was gospel. Um, I couldn't like go to a
51:46Social event like unless it was at the church. So we had something along the lines of that but um
51:52Theirs was really extreme. Like I said, it's really extreme and I think that the idea of
51:58Converting to a religion that you weren't born into seems
52:01More and more outlandish to me because when you're born into a religion like we're when we were talking about hold on. What was her name?
52:08Um
52:10So ashley was not born as a muslim woman
52:12so the idea of her wearing a hijab and covering herself and and
52:17Making her lifestyle completely
52:20Submissive to the religion. I think it's crazy. I think when you were
52:24Raised a certain way once you become an adult. I think converting is kind of out of the question
52:29Right, like it's it's it's gonna be too much of a life change
52:32That it's it's impossible for you to fully commit
52:35Because like when I was raised in that religion it didn't seem like a lot to me
52:39Until I got out of it because I was raised
52:42It's the only thing I knew and then once I got 18 and I got out of it and I realized
52:45all the stuff that I wasn't doing or I couldn't do I was like
52:49Whoa, that was a lot but like when you were raised in it like for muhammad
52:53It doesn't seem like a lot because this is the only thing he knows
52:56And this is just what women are supposed to do and this is how they dress but for someone who's converting
53:02It's crazy to think that every time you leave the house you need to be basically draped in a blanket
53:07But no one can see like any of your skin that it's it's insane to even consider right? Yeah
53:13I think he only married her because she was pregnant because
53:17you're 100% right you're 100% right because
53:20Honestly, like why wouldn't you have that discussion prior to bringing in an innocent child into the world?
53:26Like like ellie's cousin or whatever whatnot married a muslim guy
53:31They're having a baby they've talked about it. They've worked it out what decisions they'll be making in the future
53:37Why wouldn't all of a sudden actually who's catholic and muhammad who's muslim talk about these things because you got pregnant?
53:45That's why it's a thing in the muslim religion that you can't be out having sex unless you're married
53:51So the fact that they had sex got pregnant and got married after that's completely contradicting to the religion if i'm not mistaken
53:58I'm, pretty sure you don't just go out
54:00You have to be married. That's part of the muslim religion. So he was living
54:05Loosely in his own religion, but now he wants her to live
54:08Strictly in his religion and I think that's where it gets complicated because I was like you weren't even following the rules because how did
54:14She end up pregnant before y'all got married, you know, like you weren't following the rules, but now she's got to follow every single rule
54:18That's my issue. Yeah
54:21Yeah
54:22All right, guys. I ran out of time. So we're gonna come back and talk about
54:27The other wait no before the 90 days before the 90 days
54:31This is the other way which comes on sunday, um this coming sunday, and then we're gonna watch. Um
54:37It's more forbidden love. I think next week is the finale of forbidden love actually
54:40So we're gonna like in forbidden love and then we're also the end of unexpected comes on tonight
54:45So I want to do like a little recap of this season. So we're gonna squeeze that in sometime this week. I'll
54:52Communicate with you guys on that but make sure you're following my co-host. Um, kara
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