Will PTI be able to hold a public gathering??
Will PTI be able to hold a public gathering??
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00:00We have with us Mr. Hassan Ayyub.
00:02Mr. Hassan Ayyub, today's statement of Mr. Shaukat Yusuf Zaheer on the matter of Aleema Khan
00:07that he will not act on anything.
00:09Then the other, Ali Muhammad Khan was with us, so he said that the point of view he keeps
00:14because she is a sister, as a sister, she obviously has a relationship of love, so that's why she does it.
00:20But party decisions are different.
00:22And party decisions are made through the consultation of Bani PTI.
00:25It was about the approval of the Jalsa.
00:27What is your point of view on this, that what differences are going on and is Aleema Khan
00:32motivated to control the party or is it some other matter?
00:37Look, the thing is that Aleema Khan has always been a well-wisher of Bani Chairman Tehreek-e-Insaab.
00:43The people who misguide or mislead the party and take personal advantage of it,
00:49they have always been able to learn from it.
00:52In the 2013 elections, I remember that Hina Manzoor Sahiba,
00:56who was in the circle of Rawalpindi at that time, NA54,
01:00she contested against Malik Ebrar Sahib and even her own polling agents were not present.
01:05When she lost the election on this, I still remember that when Imran Khan was injured in Shaukat Khanab Hospital,
01:12I went to his hospital for his treatment.
01:15I saw that Aleema Khan Sahiba had taken a good class of Hina Manzoor Sahiba.
01:21So, there is a tradition going on from the beginning that Aleema Khan Sahiba is not a part of the party,
01:27but she does not detach herself from Imran Khan.
01:30So, the Jalsa that got cancelled this time as well,
01:33it was the wish of the people of the party, especially Ali Ameen Gandapur Sahib,
01:38he did not want this Jalsa to happen because he had to come to Islamabad and he knows
01:43that maybe he will not cross the Attock Bridge and if he comes to attack Islamabad,
01:48then maybe his government will not be able to survive.
01:50But I was watching yesterday's interview,
01:55I think they gave an interview to Duniya TV and gave a big statement.
01:58They say that the Jalsa that is going to happen on 8th September,
02:02if it does not happen, then they will leave politics.
02:05This is what they have stated.
02:07They have stated this before as well that they will leave politics.
02:11This was their announcement for the Jalsa on 22nd August.
02:15They did not leave politics.
02:16The statements of these politicians are basically to warm the blood of their workers.
02:23They do not have to do this.
02:25So, Ali Ameen Gandapur Sahib basically said that why did Azam Swati go with Minister Gohar?
02:31Because Ali Ameen Gandapur Sahib could not go himself.
02:35He had given such big statements.
02:38He said that the turban I am wearing on my head is my shroud.
02:42So, what did he do with the shroud?
02:44So, you will wear the shroud again.
02:46But Ali Ameen Gandapur Sahib was asked that the white turban you were wearing earlier,
02:50you had declared it as your shroud.
02:52So, the Jalsa did not take place.
02:54Then you said that the Jalsa will take place at any cost.
02:56The Jalsa will take place at the cost of the people.
02:58So, the biggest weakness of the leaders of Pakistani justice is that they have made big promises.
03:04See, he did not make a promise on anyone's behalf, he made a promise on Bani's behalf.
03:09So, Bani said that he took off the shroud, now he will wear it again.
03:13You tell me, Ishfaq Bhai, did Bani Chairman contact Ali Ameen Gandapur from the jail?
03:20Or did these people contact Bani Chairman from the jail?
03:24These people contacted, right?
03:26When these people contacted, they said that these are the circumstances,
03:29regarding Khatm-e-Nabut, a lot of scholars, there is a case in the Supreme Court,
03:34they have already entered the red zone.
03:37Now what should we do?
03:38So, they said, then cancel the Jalsa.
03:41Although, where is the Supreme Court and where is the position of Tannol?
03:44That is, the distance of at least 40 minutes,
03:47there is definitely the territory of Islamabad,
03:51but that is the border area of Islamabad.
03:53And the red zone is further ahead of Zero Point, it is also ahead of the heart of Islamabad.
03:58Now Islamabad has also become so vast, Hassan Ayub,
04:02that at one time it used to start from Zero Point,
04:04so now the demography of Islamabad has changed.
04:07I wanted to know one thing, what is the situation with the Lahore Jalsa?
04:11What is the information about it?
04:12Is it happening or not? Is there confusion? What is it?
04:15Look, they are definitely announcing that we will hold the Jalsa,
04:18but no one is allowing them to hold the Jalsa.
04:21Maybe they can hold the Jalsa in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
04:25but if you think that they will be allowed to assemble in Lahore or Islamabad,
04:30then I do not see it as possible.
04:34Because as long as Imran Khan Sahib does not make a public apology on 9th May,
04:40this Jamaat will not be allowed to assemble in any other province than Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
04:46because there is their own government there.
04:48So what is the point in announcing this?
04:51On one hand, they say that if we cancel it now,
04:53as they were saying last time, our worker will be very disheartened.
04:57So why is this announcement being made,
04:59if the party is not on board to hold the Jalsa or not?
05:05No, the party is on board.
05:06The party is going to hold the Jalsa.
05:08The governments will not allow them to hold the Jalsa.
05:11They will not allow them to assemble.
05:14And that is why, look, until they do not make a public apology on 9th May,
05:19that we have made a mistake,
05:20and we have attacked the state,
05:23we will not confess to this crime,
05:25until then, they will not be allowed to assemble or hold a public gathering.
05:30Did they have any permission in the elections?
05:33Did you see a Jalsa of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf in any other province other than Khyber Pakhtunkhwa?
05:44So basically, they do not have any permission.
05:47Nor will they be allowed to hold a Jalsa.
05:48If they try to hold a Jalsa,
05:50then there will be a clash between them and the police.
05:53So, you are saying that this will happen on 8th September as well?
05:56Yes, there will be a Jalsa on 8th September as well.
05:58At least, it is not visible in Islamabad.
06:00And look, if we talk about the Jalsa in Islamabad,
06:04there were no preparations.
06:05It is a ground of five canals.
06:07There was no stage, no chairs, no lights,
06:11nor did the sound system reach there.
06:13So, in such a situation, how can there be a Jalsa?
06:15The preparations start a day or two before the Jalsa.
06:18And especially, the Jalsas of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf that we have covered in the past,
06:22the face-painting people reach there.
06:25The people who sell various things reach there.
06:29And there is a gathering and a Jalsa.
06:32But this time, there was nothing there.
06:33There was a ground.
06:35There were containers around the ground.
06:37And the police and the administration used to dig there.
06:41So, these people did not reach there.
06:43This time, what will happen at the Jalsa on 8th September?
06:46At least, I have seen a Jalsa.
06:49Let's go.
06:49Hassan, thank you so much.
06:50Hassan, what do you think can happen at the Jalsa on 8th September?