徹子の部屋 2024年8月29日 〈伊達公子〉51歳で「熟年再婚」!充実の日々を

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徹子の部屋 2024年8月29日 〈伊達公子〉51歳で「熟年再婚」!充実の日々を
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00:00I am Kimiko Date, a tennis player who broke various records in the tennis world and retired at a very young age, and is now 37 years old and is known to have returned to the field.
00:17Today, I would like to talk to you about my husband. Please come this way.
00:23Nice suit. It's been a while. Please have a seat.
00:35How are you?
00:37I'm fine.
00:39You are from Kyoto, right?
00:42Yes.
00:43Did you start playing tennis when you were in the first grade of elementary school?
00:47I happened to have a tennis club near my house, and I loved to move my body, so I couldn't just wait.
00:55So I started playing with a racket.
00:57That's amazing.
00:58This is when I was in high school, when I won the inter high school tournament.
01:05It's pitch black.
01:06You look like a boy.
01:08It's been 12 years since I last came to your house.
01:12Now I'm a tennis coach.
01:17I found something I wanted to do after I retired, so I'm working on it.
01:24I'm glad to hear that.
01:27You remarried your handsome husband two years ago.
01:32I'm sure you'll be envious of that story later.
01:37You retired from active duty at the age of 26.
01:41At that time, you were in 4th place in the world ranking.
01:45That's amazing. You were in 4th place in the world ranking.
01:48Yes, I was.
01:49That's amazing.
01:50You were in the top 4 in Wimbledon when you retired.
01:54That was amazing.
01:58When I was in my first career, I focused on winning every day.
02:08But the world was surprised when you announced your retirement.
02:14Why did you decide to retire?
02:17At that time, I was still young.
02:24There weren't many athletes in the world at that time.
02:29In golf, there was Ayako Okamoto.
02:31In baseball, there was Hideo Nomu.
02:36Now there are many people who are active in soccer and baseball overseas.
02:42At that time, there were no such people.
02:44I felt the pressure of the media.
02:50I couldn't keep my mental balance.
02:56I think that's why I decided to retire.
03:00You were very particular about your meals.
03:05Yes, I was.
03:06When I first came here, I said I loved rice balls.
03:11I'll show you a little.
03:15You have to eat Japanese food.
03:19You have a lot of luggage.
03:22I love rice.
03:25When I eat rice, I feel calm.
03:29Recently, I have a small pot.
03:32I always bring it with me.
03:34I also bring a few packs of retort rice.
03:38When I play a game, I boil water, cook rice, and make two rice balls.
03:47Then I eat them before the game.
03:50I also eat pasta and bananas.
03:52I think rice balls are the best.
03:56Do you always have pickled plums?
03:57Yes, I always have pickled plums.
03:59Really?
04:02You are young.
04:04Yes, I am.
04:06Before the rice cooker, we had a pot.
04:10We used a pot to cook retort rice.
04:13Then the rice cooker came into being.
04:17I retired two years later.
04:20I didn't even look at the racket anymore.
04:23After that, I married a German racer.
04:27When I retired for the first time, I got married.
04:31I was also a JICA official supporter.
04:35When I went to various countries in Japan,
04:38I realized that the rice cooked by the villagers was delicious.
04:43I realized that I had broadened my horizons and changed my way of thinking.
04:50I felt that after the first time.
04:58I suddenly became a professional player when I was in high school.
05:03Did you know only tennis?
05:06Yes, I did.
05:08If I didn't know tennis, I felt that I couldn't face the world.
05:14When I was playing tennis, I thought only about winning and ranking.
05:25After I retired,
05:28I realized that I didn't have to think about black or white when I played tennis.
05:35After I retired from tennis, I realized that there was something good about gray.
05:42I realized that I didn't have to decide between black and white.
05:47I think it was after I retired that I realized that.
05:50It's been 12 years.
05:52You are 37 years old.
05:54It's amazing.
05:55You are back in active service.
05:58You won the championship at the Japan Championships that year.
06:03That's right.
06:05I thought it wasn't easy to win the championship.
06:12When the game started, I got a feeling.
06:18There are four players, singles and doubles.
06:23I won the championship with two games.
06:27That's great.
06:28I won the championship.
06:30So you never took a break in your 30s and 40s.
06:34That's right.
06:35Did you retire for the second time because of your physical condition?
06:39Yes.
06:40I started playing tennis when I was 37 years old.
06:44I couldn't keep up with my recovery.
06:48I spent a lot of time thinking about how to face it.
06:54In the end, I had a knee surgery.
06:58I came back to tennis again, but I couldn't get back to 100%.
07:03My shoulder was completely broken.
07:08Your shoulder was broken.
07:10My upper body, lower body, knees, and shoulders were damaged.
07:15So I decided to retire.
07:20If your knee and shoulder weren't broken, would you still play tennis?
07:25Yes.
07:26I wanted to do what I could do.
07:32But my body was screaming beyond the limit.
07:36I had to accept it.
07:39I see.
07:40Do you still exercise?
07:43Yes.
07:44I've been exercising on the surface since I retired.
07:49But my joints are broken.
07:53So I continue to train twice a week.
07:57That's great.
08:00My speed and reaction are getting worse.
08:05I can't do what I used to be able to do.
08:09But I accept it.
08:12I try to play tennis once a week.
08:16But I'm already exhausted.
08:19I need a partner and a court to play tennis.
08:25I can't do it easily.
08:28I wish I could play tennis once every two or three weeks.
08:33But it's fun to play tennis.
08:36I see.
08:37I continue to play tennis.
08:38You had surgery after your retirement.
08:41Did you go to a university hospital while you couldn't exercise?
08:45Yes, I did.
08:46I had surgery on the day of my second retirement.
08:52I had to undergo rehabilitation after the surgery.
08:57I wanted to use that time to do what I could do.
09:07My tennis friends asked me what I would do after my retirement.
09:12I suddenly remembered what they asked me.
09:15They asked me if I was interested in going to a university hospital.
09:19In my case, I was a professional after I graduated from high school.
09:23I didn't have time to go to a university hospital.
09:28I went to a university hospital in Waseda.
09:30Waseda University of Sports Science and Technology.
09:33I went to a university hospital because I wanted to use the time to do what I could do.
09:39I had to go to a university hospital four times a week.
09:46I went to Waseda University of Sports Science and Technology.
09:51My friends and I helped each other for a year.
09:58There were times when I couldn't keep up with them.
10:01But they were there for me.
10:03Waseda University of Sports Science and Technology is a social organization.
10:06There are many presidents of various companies.
10:11I was able to meet good friends and professors and graduate.
10:20Did you graduate?
10:21Yes, I did.
10:23I was interested in tennis.
10:29I was interested in the surface of tennis courts.
10:36In Japan, there are more than 50% of tennis courts that do not meet international standards.
10:43I researched what kind of surface is necessary to be active in the world.
10:52I took the data and made it into a paper.
10:57I also received the best paper.
10:59Is that so? That's great.
11:07When I was 45 years old, I got a divorce from my German husband.
11:15We talked about our life after the divorce and decided to get a divorce.
11:20I see.
11:21You two are still good friends.
11:25You talked positively about each other.
11:28You decided to get a divorce because you wanted to get away from each other.
11:33When I asked him why, he said,
11:36We don't have a common hobby.
11:40When we were young, we both liked sports.
11:45It was good for us.
11:47However, as we get weaker and weaker,
11:50I thought it would be bad if we couldn't do the same thing.
11:55We talked about finding a hobby for each other.
12:00In the end, we decided to get a divorce because we wanted to get away from each other.
12:07Even now, we still keep in touch.
12:11I see.
12:12He is a well-known man who is already married.
12:16We eat together.
12:19I see.
12:20You asked your friend for a life partner.
12:26There are some conditions for a life partner.
12:31It's not a difficult condition.
12:34I love to eat.
12:36I like people who love to eat.
12:39I like people who are passionate about their work and can give energy.
12:44I like people who are older than me.
12:47I didn't care at all even if I had a divorce experience.
12:51I didn't care if I had a divorce experience.
12:54I've been traveling since I was young.
12:58I like traveling.
13:02I like people who I can enjoy traveling with.
13:05I think that's about it.
13:07Your husband was introduced to you by chance.
13:16That's right.
13:19I introduced him to my friend because I wanted to find someone.
13:25He is my husband now.
13:28We took a picture together when we went to Miyotoiwa.
13:34I used it for the presentation.
13:38He usually wears a suit.
13:41What does he do for a living?
13:43He is the manager of a Chinese restaurant in Tokyo.
13:48When I'm at a restaurant, I'm often thought to be a chef.
13:56But I don't cook at all.
13:59I invite customers and say hello to them.
14:04But you were rejected at first.
14:07That's right. I couldn't find a partner.
14:10I met him when I decided to go to work.
14:16I went to see him because I wanted to spend more time with him.
14:24But he didn't tell me about it.
14:28When I went to see him by chance, the atmosphere was bad.
14:33I couldn't meet him for a while.
14:37But I spent a lot of time with him like playing tennis.
14:43Finally, we were able to spend time together.
14:47That's great.
14:49At first, we didn't think about immigration.
14:54But because of COVID-19, he changed his mind.
15:01Two and a half years ago, we moved to Tokyo.
15:10We are having a good time.
15:12When you cooked for your husband for the first time, were you nervous?
15:19At first, I didn't like it.
15:22I was under a lot of pressure.
15:25I didn't want to cook.
15:28I understood that I had to cook the same food at home and at the restaurant.
15:39I couldn't cook much.
15:43But when I had time, he cooked for me and said it was delicious.
15:48I'm glad to hear that.
15:50He told me all the ingredients.
15:55I can't cook.
15:58I don't know how to cook, but I know what's in the ingredients.
16:04So I can't cook badly.
16:09I'm glad to hear that.
16:12At first, you didn't eat dinner. You waited for him.
16:17When we started living together, we waited for him until 11 o'clock at night.
16:27I prefer to eat early, sleep early, and wake up early.
16:34But I couldn't do that because of work.
16:38So I decided not to eat dinner so late.
16:41Until a while ago, I ate dinner first and left it.
16:46Then I cooked something that I could eat if I warmed it up.
16:51But I think it's better to eat early than to eat late.
17:01When I eat, I cook for one person.
17:04But I don't cook for two people.
17:07We eat together only when we have a day off.
17:12But I try to stay in good condition to keep my body healthy.
17:19I've changed little by little since we started living together.
17:25I see.
17:26Now you have a conversation at breakfast time.
17:29Yes.
17:30I get very tired at night.
17:33I want to talk to him about everything.
17:39But I can't think of anything to talk about.
17:44So I sleep in the morning and get tired.
17:49Then I eat breakfast and check my schedule.
17:55I try to spend time with him in the morning.
18:00That's good.
18:02He couldn't cook breakfast at all.
18:06But I love coffee.
18:09So I make coffee beans every morning.
18:14He does that for me.
18:16So he makes coffee for me in the morning.
18:19I mean, he makes coffee and bakes bread for me.
18:23It seems that your personality worked out well.
18:27Yes.
18:28When I speak to him,
18:31I think too much about how he feels when I say something.
18:37So I can't say what I want to say.
18:40But I'm the type of person who says what I want to say.
18:44So I think we have a good balance.
18:49I see.
18:50You don't talk much when you talk to each other.
18:54But when I say something, he doesn't say anything.
19:00I think so.
19:03You did a good job.
19:04Yes, I did.
19:06Congratulations.
19:09Let's move on to Komachi.
19:14You are now a junior high school coach.
19:19Yes.
19:20There is a racket manufacturer that I have been taking care of for many years after I retired.
19:27When I asked them what I could do for a long time,
19:33they said it was training.
19:36Of course, I wanted the Japanese women's tennis world to be stronger.
19:41So I've been doing it for two years.
19:44The youngest one is in the first year of junior high school.
19:50I see.
19:51He was in the sixth grade when he joined.
19:53He is about 16 years old.
19:56I want to give him as much input as possible to go to the world as soon as possible.
20:05I see.
20:07I can only do this with the juniors for a short time.
20:14I try to do it as much as I can.
20:19Young people today are very ambitious.
20:23If you ask them what they want to do in the future,
20:25they say they want to be the best in the world.
20:27They want to win the Grand Slam.
20:29They can say that.
20:32I explain to them what they need to do in order to realize their dream.
20:40I explain it over and over again and communicate with them.
20:44It must be hard.
20:46I want to do what I can do as much as possible when I can use my body, my head, and all my energy.
20:57Your husband's hobby is skiing.
21:00He was in the skiing club when he was a student.
21:05He was a professional skier.
21:16We started skiing together recently.
21:20He teaches me how to ski.
21:22How does he teach you?
21:24My father likes the mountains.
21:26He likes hiking in summer and skiing in winter.
21:30I used to ski when I was a kid.
21:34But when I was busy playing tennis, I was away from skiing.
21:40I had knee surgery.
21:43I was a little scared at first.
21:46But my knee condition got much better.
21:50So I started skiing.
21:52I started skiing again about five years ago.
21:54Did you enjoy skiing?
21:56Yes, I did.
21:57But my husband is busy now.
21:59We don't have much time to go skiing together.
22:01I see.
22:02So I told my instructor that I would go skiing alone.
22:07I see.
22:08I love skiing.
22:10I see.
22:12Many of your family members live a long life.
22:16That's right.
22:17My grandmother passed away when I was 98 years old.
22:21And my father-in-law passed away when I was 108 years old.
22:26So I think I can live up to 110 years old.
22:32I started thinking about marriage when I was 50 years old.
22:38If I can live the same 50 years, I have a lot of things to do.
22:44I was pushed back by myself.
22:48But I will continue to support young athletes in the world with tennis.
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