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00:00Everyone has this complaint that why is the internet slow in Pakistan?
00:04On one hand, there is an income from the internet.
00:06On the other hand, Pakistan's youth are selling their skills and earning a small amount of money for Pakistan.
00:12Which at this time has a life-threatening situation for Pakistan.
00:17On the other hand, the internet is slow.
00:19The Pakistan Telecommunication Authority has said that there is a problem with the submarine cables.
00:24The problem is that it is not being solved.
00:27What is the problem behind this? We will talk about that too.
00:30But one more thing that we were hearing a lot is that the firewall is being installed.
00:34The name WMS has started to be used.
00:37Now, whether WMS and Firewall are the same or not, we have to talk about this.
00:41Let me keep WMS in front of you.
00:43PTA has started to block online materials and mobile applications under the web monitoring system in Pakistan.
00:49Approximately 2,369 websites and 183 mobile apps have been blocked so far.
00:56In the blocked websites, the personal data of the citizens is being publicized.
01:04That data can be very personal.
01:06There can be banking data in it.
01:07There can be a lot of other data in it.
01:09On the level of PTA's WMS system gateway, deep packet inspection technology has been used to monitor and control internet traffic.
01:18PTA has claimed that the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority has the ability to find out the reality of the materials.
01:26Now, whether WMS and Firewall are the same or not, we will talk about this.
01:31Mr. Fahad Haroon is with us.
01:33He is an SAP on digital media.
01:35Thank you very much, Mr. Fahad, for joining me in the program.
01:37It's a pleasure having you.
01:38Mr. Fahad, first of all, please tell us.
01:39Should we consider this as a confession of a crime?
01:41That WMS is a firewall about which everyone was saying that a firewall will be installed.
01:45Is this a firewall?
01:46What you are calling a firewall is basically a web management system.
01:50You have called it a web management system.
01:52It is a web management system through which pornographic material, all the websites that are illegal, are blocked.
02:00Such websites and things that are not according to the law…
02:04Let me get this straight.
02:06This web management system has been going on for a long time.
02:10Didn't it start just now?
02:11Didn't you install it?
02:12Because we are being told that the firewall has been installed just now.
02:14No, no.
02:15This web management system has been going on for a long time.
02:18All the pornographic websites that have been going on for a long time, have been blocked.
02:23What do you mean by a long time, Mr. Fahad?
02:25The trolls, the government, the PTI government,
02:30the PTI government had also written this letter to upgrade the web management system.
02:33In fact, they had written it.
02:35So you are saying that the firewall was also installed by the PTI government?
02:37Yes, this web management system was also there.
02:39They had written the first letter to upgrade it.
02:43Did you upgrade it?
02:45Yes, we are upgrading it.
02:47Let me explain to you a little about the internet.
02:52We have seven Sabreen cables that come from Pakistan.
02:56We have eight terabytes per second download.
03:02And the cache download, which we call CDM, is 12 TB per second.
03:09In total, Pakistan has a facility of 20 TB per second download.
03:14And we have 111 million internet users, which are increasing day by day.
03:21From last year January to this year January, we have a growth of more than 27% on the internet.
03:28Obviously, this is a case of supply and demand.
03:31And 80% of the internet users, which are 111 million plus users,
03:37are also used in social media apps.
03:41So one of our apps goes to petabytes.
03:46This is an issue of supply and demand.
03:49And this demand is ever-growing demand.
03:51I am sorry, I am cutting you short.
03:53With ever-growing demand, you should make internet access easier.
03:58Instead of putting a firewall on it or stopping it.
04:01You have so many users, so we will need more easy access.
04:05Yes, I am telling you that the internet has not been slowed down.
04:10Basically, in the last few days, you have received this clarification.
04:13Yes, two of our cables were out of order.
04:17One of them has been repaired.
04:19And one will be repaired in early October.
04:22So in other words, September and early October, the internet will remain slow.
04:27The internet has improved a lot.
04:29Obviously, there is a fault in the submarine cable.
04:32Faults occur all over the world.
04:34And this is a time-taking process.
04:37And obviously, this is a consortium that does it right.
04:42This is not in the hands of one person.
04:44Obviously, there are permissions and things.
04:47So obviously, we are involved.
04:48And obviously, this is happening right.
04:50And God willing, it will be right.
04:51But what I want to explain to you is that
04:53Out of the 8TB that was coming in the 7 cables,
04:581.5TB was lost.
05:001.5TB was lost and we have 6.5TB left.
05:04Now you see, for example, if you take India,
05:08India has about 140TB of download per terabyte per second.
05:13So if there is a loss of 1.5TB there, it is not such a big loss.
05:17But because our capacity is 8TB,
05:20there is a loss of 1.5TB and 6.5TB is left.
05:22If you add the cashier, you said there is 20TB.
05:24Yes, 12TB and 6.5TB.
05:26So now we have a total of 18.5TB.
05:30So if you compare India with this, it is 7 times more than us.
05:34But along with that, their population has also increased.
05:36Yes, yes, their population has increased.
05:37I am telling you that our 1.5TB,
05:39how much difference are you making from this?
05:41Because we are making a difference.
05:42In a big country, where there is more,
05:45and obviously they have 20 landing stations,
05:50they obviously have more,
05:52and we obviously have less.
05:54We have 170 ISPs and 4 telcos.
05:58Along with this cable fault,
06:00we have an issue that out of these 170 ISPs and 4 telcos,
06:05there are issues of reconfiguration.
06:07One major has a problem of reconfiguration.
06:10Because of that problem, obviously,
06:12the cable and reconfiguration of the internet was not good.
06:16Obviously, they were reconfiguring.
06:18So that took time.
06:19So obviously, now the internet has become much better.
06:21The cable has also become better.
06:23So the internet is good again.
06:25So you have carried the responsibility of reconfiguration on your shoulders.
06:28In other words, you are trying to say this.
06:29Yes, reconfiguration.
06:31These are hardware issues.
06:33Hardware, for everyone,
06:35something or the other keeps getting damaged.
06:37It gets upgraded.
06:38Please explain this to me.
06:39I remember, Shaza Fatima Sahiba had said that
06:41the use of VPN is also bringing a lot of load on the internet in Pakistan.
06:45Is this really true?
06:47Yes, the download of VPN is done in such a way
06:52that when the internet slowed down,
06:55because of the problem of Sabreen,
06:58the speed of the internet slowed down.
07:01So when that happened and the issue of reconfiguration came,
07:04people started downloading VPN.
07:07When VPN is downloaded,
07:09obviously, trolls started spreading that VPN should be downloaded.
07:14So obviously, what came out of the design,
07:18because they know that VPN slows down the system.
07:22But let me stop you here.
07:24VPN is not needed, Mr. Fahad,
07:26if you had not blocked X.
07:29People have to access social media websites.
07:31They have downloaded VPN.
07:33You are leaving the access open.
07:35They will not download VPN.
07:36In other words, you are hitting your own foot.
07:38You talked about X.
07:39Look, we cannot be blackmailed by anyone.
07:43Who is blackmailing?
07:45If someone does not follow the laws of our country,
07:51in a neighboring country,
07:53and does not follow it in our country,
07:54how can this happen?
07:55If there is a blasphemous content going on in our country,
07:59a pornographic content is going on,
08:01terrorism content is going on.
08:03You just saw what happened in Balochistan.
08:05You saw what happened in all things.
08:06If we do not follow those things,
08:07if we do not follow our laws,
08:09if we do not follow our rules,
08:10then you know that obviously,
08:12these are blockings for public safety.
08:15And it has happened all over the world.
08:17So before blocking X,
08:19did you reach out to them?
08:21Yes, we did.
08:22Was it not working according to our laws?
08:23Yes, we reached out many times.
08:25What was the response of X?
08:26So obviously, they used to have an auto response many times.
08:29Or we do not have a person to reach out to them.
08:33There is no person in Pakistan.
08:35It has happened in Brazil too.
08:37In Brazil too, they refused to give their person.
08:40They suspended them because they were not following their laws.
08:43So if no one in the world follows the law,
08:46if they follow it in some other country and not in ours,
08:48if they follow it in a neighboring country and not in ours,
08:50how can this happen?
08:52Their offices are open in neighboring countries,
08:54but not in our country.
08:56So these are different things.
08:59And obviously, we have to safeguard our state, our country.
09:04And this is Pakistan's digital frontier.