Forbidden Love - SEASON 01 EPISODE 06 (2024)
Forbidden Love - SEASON 01 EPISODE 06 (2024)
Couples hopelessly in love face one final hurdle in their relationship--religion. To stay together, someone must choose to change their faith, but will the sacrifice strengthen their relationship or tear them apart?
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Couples hopelessly in love face one final hurdle in their relationship--religion. To stay together, someone must choose to change their faith, but will the sacrifice strengthen their relationship or tear them apart?
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00:00Previously on Forbidden Love...
00:02They gave me the dirty looks.
00:04Isn't it awkward? Like, your own family's right there,
00:06and they're just like, act like they don't see you.
00:08Yeah, they just walk away.
00:09The moment I married Lindsey,
00:11my family, they don't communicate with me no more.
00:14Because if you marry an English woman,
00:16like, you are totally, like, completely out.
00:18Like, you are done with being Amish.
00:23By Jewish law, you cover your hair when you get married.
00:26I feel a little bit uncomfortable.
00:29You're going to be the mother of my grandchildren.
00:31You have to wear a wig.
00:34There's a lot of things that are different
00:36that make you the Laurie that I grew up with.
00:39I just don't want to lose my sister.
00:42Do you feel like you're cut out for this Orthodox Jewish life?
00:46I don't know if I can do this.
00:52Sometimes you do say stuff to me that's rude.
00:55You said I'm a fake Muslim.
00:57If you want to stay with my brother,
00:59I would love to see you Muslim.
01:01Wearing a hijab and a bayah
01:03does make me feel a little bit out of my comfort zone.
01:05I don't think that Mohammed and Abdul
01:07realize how huge of a life change this is.
01:11In the name of the Father, the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
01:15I can feel him, like, putting the cross on my forehead.
01:18This is insane.
01:20I said, look at God.
01:22Look how great he is.
01:24You can't force me into submission.
01:26And I feel like I'm being forced here,
01:28and it makes me uncomfortable.
01:30Oh! Thank you, Jesus.
01:32We're on our way to Elmer's parents' house right now,
01:35and I am worried if he can handle
01:38if his family rejects him again.
01:40Wilmer called me.
01:42Your brother?
01:43Yeah.
01:44He got wind that you guys were coming up.
01:48Now I know that my parents know that we're coming,
01:50so I'm afraid they're going to be gone.
01:52What are we going to do now?
01:53I think we should just go over there.
01:55So we got to go now.
01:57♪♪♪
02:07♪♪♪
02:17♪♪♪
02:25There you go.
02:27Thinking about going back to my parents' house,
02:29I'm nervous as hell.
02:31The last time when I walked out that door,
02:33they said never to come back,
02:34and I didn't think I was going to come back.
02:36I'm just trying to do the right thing
02:37for Lindsey and our kids' sake.
02:42I'm nervous.
02:43I'm sweating.
02:44My heart's about to jump out of my chest.
02:46I'm scared s***less what's going to happen,
02:48but we got to do it.
02:53Whoa, that's far enough.
02:54We can't have that s***, man.
02:55We can't have cameras over there, man.
02:57You guys can't come at all.
03:00♪♪♪♪
03:09♪♪♪♪
03:17What happened, guys?
03:19Well...
03:23One brother answered the door,
03:26and then here comes another brother,
03:28and a sister,
03:29and we ended up, like, six surrounding us.
03:36It was a very emotional moment.
03:39I know.
03:40I've got to start tearing up for you.
03:41Like, these are your siblings,
03:43and they look so much like you, and...
03:46You know, I said, you know,
03:47hey, where's Mom and Dad at?
03:48They said they're not home.
03:49I said, okay.
03:51I wish they would have been there
03:53so she could have met them.
03:55Yeah.
03:56But I said we came out here to, you know,
03:58for me to introduce her
04:00and just try to get a better relationship.
04:03I said, if you guys don't want us to come in,
04:06you don't have to come in.
04:07But they did let us come in.
04:08And then they let us come in.
04:09Just inside, I mean, the garage area,
04:12concrete floor area.
04:14Yeah.
04:15Did you tell them you were pregnant?
04:17Yeah, Elmer did.
04:18Yeah.
04:21There wasn't any response, so...
04:23Yeah.
04:26We told the siblings to, like, you know,
04:28just can you pass this along that we stopped by
04:30and tell them about the gifts.
04:32There's a lot of very emotional thoughts
04:34going through my head.
04:38I know this is a selfish thought,
04:41but I just wish that, you know,
04:45she was almost there for a minute,
04:47and we'd be like, yeah, we can go back home.
04:49We can go for dinner.
04:50Everything's great.
04:53I just want to go run back there right now
04:55and just give them all a hug and be like,
04:56hey, you know, how's it going, you know?
04:58But it's something where there's never going to be
05:03a chance of making things right because I'm still English
05:06and because, you know, I'm shunned.
05:10They're so polite, but yet have so much, like,
05:12hatred deep down.
05:14It's not necessarily, it's not hatred.
05:16It's their religion.
05:19The way they grew up, the way they've been brainwashed,
05:21their whole life.
05:23I think it's going to be a long road.
05:28Maybe eventually, maybe five years down the road,
05:31two years down the road, we don't know.
05:33Maybe it's something that we can, you know,
05:37have a better relationship with them.
05:39We don't know.
05:40It's out of our hands.
05:43I just hope we planted a seed, maybe,
05:45you know, that can grow.
05:48Maybe we can write letters to keep in touch
05:50once in a while.
05:51A letter once a month?
05:53Twice a month?
05:54Yeah.
05:55Baby steps, you know?
05:57Persistence.
05:59Yeah.
06:15It doesn't fit on it.
06:17That's bad.
06:18That's bad.
06:19That's a bad idea.
06:20Right?
06:21It's not my club.
06:22You don't have to do all that.
06:25Yeah, shimmy it off.
06:28I'm really glad that our family issues
06:30are kind of behind us now.
06:32I mean, kind of.
06:33Sort of.
06:35It's much better than it was.
06:37Anyway, now we can just focus on ourselves
06:40getting better and moving forward.
06:42I don't know if that's the right way to word it.
06:44Yeah, I mean, it was a real relief
06:46to fix up with Ashley's family
06:49and things with my brother Abdul.
06:51So, like, right now we focus on our marriage,
06:54our family.
07:01Ready?
07:03Should I give it to him?
07:04No.
07:05Mine is yours.
07:06Okay, I'm going to give it to him.
07:07No, me.
07:08It's me, me, me, me.
07:09Me, me, me.
07:10Aw.
07:11Say ha-ha.
07:12Ha-ha.
07:15This lamb we eat with our hands.
07:18He does, like, a little.
07:21Shuffle it, like.
07:23And also, like, we believe left hand is for the bathroom.
07:27Dirt, like, use your left hand.
07:29This hand for, like, for eat, clean things.
07:32Right hand for school, left hand for the poop.
07:38Do you want to put your gown on now?
07:40No.
07:41No gown?
07:42You're just going to pray like that?
07:43Yeah.
07:44All right, well.
07:50You're doing so good.
07:55All Muslims, like, have to pray five times a day,
07:57no matter what.
07:58In the morning, afternoon, evening, and at night time.
08:03So what if you have to have surgery?
08:07Well, that's an excuse.
08:08Like, after surgery, you pray.
08:11What if you're having sex?
08:13Well, sex, can we?
08:15What?
08:16Or, like, you know, just...
08:20finish it as, like, soon as you can.
08:25Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.
08:29OK, Razzy, do you want to go to the park?
08:31I should.
08:32Daddy's going to...
08:33What should I wear?
08:34How about that one?
08:35This one?
08:36Yeah.
08:37Looks nice, right?
08:38Looks good.
08:39Well, are you going to the park like this?
08:43Yeah.
08:45Why not?
08:46What is your pants?
08:49Oh, you're throwing them out?
08:50You want to put pants under?
08:51Yeah.
08:53Covering your legs is good.
08:56Now that we made peace with our families,
08:58I've been spending a lot of time thinking about converting
09:01and how it would affect our marriage.
09:03And I know that Muhammad would feel so happy,
09:05and I think it would make things a little bit easier for us.
09:09But I'm still not sure if I'm ready to commit.
09:12Are you not wearing hijab today?
09:15No.
09:16You don't feel like it?
09:17No, it's hot outside.
09:19Back home in Sarawak and Yemen,
09:20like, 90 degrees, 100 degrees, they wear hijab.
09:24Like, thick.
09:26I don't know what you expect me to say to that.
09:28Like, I just don't want to.
09:32As a Muslim man, like, my wife should cover her skin
09:36and wear a bayah, because her beauty is my beauty.
09:40It's for me, not for a stranger or freaking, like,
09:44going outside or grabbing people's attention.
09:47No, that's prohibited.
09:50If she's not wearing hijab, she will commit a sin.
09:56If you love someone, you will do it, like, with love.
09:58No, I don't agree.
10:00I don't know why you keep saying that.
10:01I don't agree.
10:02So you don't love me?
10:03No, I'm not saying I don't love you.
10:04I'm not going to do it because I love you.
10:06I'm going to do it because I feel like
10:08that's what I'm supposed to do religiously.
10:09Exactly, but, like, think about it.
10:12Right now, Rosie getting older.
10:14I want to make sure she grow up as a Muslim.
10:16That's why I need, actually, to be a good role model,
10:20a perfect example for Rosie.
10:22For me, that's non-negotiable.
10:26To me, like, wearing hijab, that, like,
10:28we follow the same religion, like, you know,
10:30we follow, like, same bath.
10:33I'm working on that.
10:35Like, I'm trying, I'm trying to get there,
10:37like, to feel that.
10:39I just don't think I'm ready.
10:43Shabbat's at 5.30.
10:45You can't use electronics.
10:47We don't cook.
10:48We don't clean.
10:50No, leave that one on.
10:51Leave that one on.
10:52It's going to be dark in there.
10:53Learning about Shabbat, I was like,
10:55what the f***?
10:56This is weird.
10:57I have to rip the toilet paper.
10:59Don't do, like, one square.
11:00I could teach you how to do it.
11:02I don't even know how to express it.
11:04It's insane to me.
11:08You knew I was 23 when I married you.
11:10I didn't know you acted like a child.
11:12I'm a hell of a lot tougher and a lot stronger woman
11:14than all these pussy men that she's used to.
11:16I have to remind you to brush your teeth
11:18and wash your hands every day.
11:19You point out all my flaws.
11:21You want a f***ing sticker?
11:22Oh, good job, Elmer.
11:23You took care of your own s***.
11:38Look at that.
11:40Pretty, huh?
11:41Oh, it's inside out.
11:42Wow.
11:43You can read Hebrew now.
11:44You see the letters are backwards?
11:46Oh, yeah.
11:55Shabbat's at 5.30,
11:56so we have, like, three and a half hours left to the day.
12:00All right.
12:01Yalla.
12:02Let's go.
12:03Okay.
12:04It's Friday night.
12:05Me and Lori need to prepare everything for Shabbat,
12:07which is the day of rest,
12:09from Friday sundown till Saturday sundown.
12:12By Jewish law, there's 39 categories of things
12:16that you can't do
12:17because they're considered work or labor,
12:19which you cannot do on the day of rest.
12:22It's a no-no.
12:23You can't use electronics.
12:25We don't cook.
12:26We don't clean.
12:28You can't drive a car.
12:29You might see a bunch of Jews on a Saturday
12:31scootering or even just walking.
12:33A lot of people just walk to the temple.
12:35For the average non-Jewish person,
12:37this might sound crazy,
12:39but as Orthodox Jews,
12:41it is like a gift from God
12:44that we get to do nothing.
12:47See this?
12:48This little switch?
12:49Yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:50So you just take it.
12:51All right, take that s*** down.
12:52And now it just stays off.
12:53Learning about Shabbat for the first time,
12:56I was like, what the f***?
12:57No, I would never do that.
12:59This is weird.
13:00Magic.
13:01Opening the fridge,
13:02you have to tape the light
13:03and, like, you know, shut it off.
13:05No, leave that one off.
13:06Leave that one off.
13:07It's going to be dark in there.
13:08You can use lights and stuff.
13:10You leave them on, put them on a timer.
13:11But after Shabbat starts,
13:12you can't turn anything on or off
13:14because it's going to change its form.
13:17So you're essentially creating something on Saturday.
13:21And technically, that's doing work,
13:23so it's forbidden.
13:24Yeah.
13:26What else, what else, what else?
13:28Rip the toilet paper.
13:30Ooh, look at you.
13:33You can't even rip your toilet paper
13:36because that's considered working.
13:38I don't even know how to express it.
13:40It's insane to me.
13:43Don't do, like, one square at a time.
13:46Do, like, three.
13:47Yeah.
13:48I could teach you how to do it.
13:49I mean, I think I can handle it.
13:51There's a trick, though.
13:52I've seen how your mom rips them.
13:54Okay.
13:55If I get to tear the toilet paper, what happens?
13:57So if you forget to tear the toilet paper,
13:59you better have a bidet.
14:00Because, yeah, you don't want to walk around
14:02with a mud butt all day, bro.
14:06That's about right.
14:10But Shabbat is not only restrictions.
14:12It's a day of reflection.
14:14It's a day of prayers.
14:15To connect to God.
14:17And also, connect with your family.
14:19And for married couples, it's actually a good deed
14:22to make love to your wife on Friday night.
14:24Of course, if she wants to.
14:28A flash flood warning is in effect.
14:31Whoa.
14:32You think their flight's going to be okay if it's a flash flood?
14:36They're going to be fine.
14:38Eli and I are throwing a housewarming party this weekend.
14:42So my mom and my sister Jen are coming in from Boston tonight.
14:47I really want to see them, but because it's Shabbat,
14:51I'm not supposed to be riding in a car,
14:54so I'm not going to be able to pick them up from the airport.
14:57You really want to go to the airport and see them?
15:00Yeah.
15:04Like I said before, I'd rather you not break Shabbat.
15:07No, I know.
15:08There's a lot of rules for Shabbat,
15:11and it's kind of frustrating and irritating,
15:14but it's something that you have to get used to,
15:16and I'm trying to, like, accustom myself to this.
15:19So it's going to be cool to have my mom and my sister here on Sunday.
15:24I remember the last time I had, like, my whole,
15:28like, almost my whole family besides my brother here, you know?
15:31I know, I know.
15:33I'm actually very excited, you know?
15:35Me too, yeah, yeah.
15:38I'm so excited that my mom and my sister are visiting,
15:42but I am nervous because this is the first time
15:45I'm seeing my family in person since I've decided to convert.
15:51My family has already expressed some reservations
15:54with me becoming Orthodox Jewish,
15:56and now they're going to see my new lifestyle up close.
16:00So I'm really nervous how they're going to react,
16:02and I don't know if they're going to approve of my new life.
16:06♪♪♪
16:11♪♪♪
16:20Christopher.
16:21Yeah.
16:22Come here. I need to talk to you.
16:24Did you know your dad was coming over?
16:26No.
16:28I'm still livid that Christopher's dad showed up at the house to anoint me.
16:34He's doing everything in his power to get me to convert to Christianity,
16:39and I'm beyond over it.
16:41♪♪♪
16:45I told him you weren't feeling good,
16:47but I didn't know they were coming over.
16:49Well, he came by just to check on me, which was really nice.
16:52Very kind of him.
16:54And then he offered to heal me.
16:57Heal you?
16:58Yeah.
16:59So he grabbed the oil, and he put a cross on my forehead.
17:04He put oil on your head?
17:05Mm-hmm.
17:07In Islam, you don't have rituals like that.
17:10That's kind of like paganism, you know?
17:13It just reminded me a lot of, like, witchcraft.
17:16In the Quran, there's only one higher power,
17:20the one and almighty Allah.
17:22We don't have people who are magically healing you or anything of that nature.
17:27We have prayer, and then we have doctors.
17:30When he started calling on to Mary and the Holy Ghost,
17:36I was just struck with intense guilt.
17:39I'm sorry.
17:40It felt like I really betrayed Allah, honestly.
17:42I am a little annoyed that my father anointed her
17:48with me not even being present.
17:50He's just going too far now at this point.
17:54I think that's more so of, like, a forceful type of behavior.
17:58So it's definitely crossed the line.
18:01I can tell you this, first off, that he didn't mean no harm by what he was doing.
18:07Mm-hmm.
18:08In our faith, that's a sign of, like, respect or, like, he really cares about you.
18:17But in the moment, like, I really felt like I betrayed my religion.
18:24And I don't want to feel that anymore.
18:34I've reached my limits with Chris's family trying to convert me.
18:37He's moving to Grand Rapids soon.
18:39If he's going to meet my parents and we're going to get engaged,
18:42he needs to change religions.
18:45I know this isn't something small.
18:48It's huge.
18:50He's a pastor's son.
18:52But I need to know that he's serious about our future.
18:57I want you to be Muslim.
19:03I want you to convert to Islam.
19:09I mean, it's...
19:12You know, my parents, they mean a lot to me,
19:14and they are well-grounded in the community.
19:18Mm-hmm.
19:19And let's say if I did become a Muslim,
19:22because you imagine how people may look at him as,
19:25okay, how are you a pastor, but...
19:27Yeah, your son.
19:28Your son, you know, left the church to become a Muslim.
19:32Yeah.
19:33You know, so I got to think about that type of stuff, too.
19:35Converting over to Islam would be a major life change for me.
19:40I got to change the way I pray
19:43to now a set five-prayer-a-day schedule.
19:47I wouldn't be able to eat pork.
19:49I wouldn't be able to drink alcohol.
19:52But the hardest thing is what it would do to my family.
19:56That could hurt them and, you know, potentially push them away.
20:00It's the most challenging decision that I've ever had to make.
20:07Let's pump the brakes a little bit on them.
20:11It's just not something I can just say, okay, I'm ready.
20:17You know, it's a tough ask to do that.
20:23That's fair.
20:25I just want to see a little bit more effort with you
20:28at least just trying to learn.
20:31I feel like I've went out of my way
20:33to make sure his parents feel respected
20:36and that he knows that I respect his faith as well.
20:40But I want him to convert because if he doesn't convert,
20:43we're not going to be able to sustain this relationship.
20:50I'm very afraid, Rose, you're going to be like one of your family.
20:54You're sitting here saying,
20:55oh, I don't want her to act like people in your family.
20:57You're being kind of dumb right now.
20:59When she called me dumb, that means she didn't respect me.
21:02That means she didn't respect me as a husband.
21:04I'm telling you right now,
21:05if you don't want me to talk about your family,
21:07do not speak about mine.
21:09To be honest with you, we will not be continuing in the future.
21:22You going to go down the slide?
21:23What do you want to choose, this one or that one?
21:25Here? Okay.
21:29Oh!
21:41Go play.
21:45Rosie, be careful.
21:47She's so cute.
21:49She's so little, but she has a big personality.
21:52She's growing so fast.
21:54Very fast.
21:55Even when she's, like, praying,
21:57she's, like, mouthing the words, mumbling the words to it.
22:11Thank you!
22:13I love it.
22:26It's really very, very important,
22:29Rosie grow up, like, to be Muslim.
22:33And I feel when she grow up, like, she will copy you.
22:36Me?
22:37Yeah, she will copy, like, the way you dress.
22:39Yeah.
22:40I mean, I hope you wear hijab.
22:42She will see you wear, and then she will copy you.
22:45I'm going to copy my mom.
22:47Ah, Mohammed.
22:49She will wear it.
22:51I understand what Mohammed is saying
22:54about Rosie having role models
22:56and raising her in a Muslim household,
22:58but I don't think he realizes how much of a struggle it is
23:01for me to adjust to a new religion.
23:04I need your help.
23:05If you want her to be a Muslim, I need your help.
23:08This is a big change,
23:10to go from wearing basically whatever I want
23:13to now wearing hijab and abaya every time I leave my house.
23:16I just need Mohammed to have some patience
23:19and be a little more flexible.
23:21I'm very afraid.
23:23Definitely, she's going to be, like, one of your family.
23:29You're sitting here saying,
23:30oh, I don't want her to act like people in your family.
23:32I don't want, if she's not Muslim,
23:33I'm afraid she's going to be bad.
23:35But on the flip side, like,
23:36I do not think your brother is a good person at all,
23:39and he's a Muslim, and look how he acts.
23:44Why are you bringing my brother right now?
23:46He's speaking about, like, our daughter.
23:47He's speaking about my family.
23:49If you don't want me to talk about your family,
23:51do not speak about mine.
23:56I can't believe Mohammed is bringing up my family like this.
23:59I thought we were over all of this,
24:01and now for him to throw this in my face,
24:03it's pissing me off.
24:04If he wants me to be a good role model for Rosie,
24:07then he has to start being one, too,
24:09and stop being such an asshole.
24:13I feel like you're being, like...
24:16Being, like, what?
24:18I feel like you're being kind of dumb right now.
24:24When she call me dumb,
24:25that means she don't respect me as a husband.
24:28Even I am wrong.
24:29Do not call me dumb.
24:30Never call me dumb.
24:32Growing up, my mom will never, ever call my dad dumb.
24:36Never.
24:38The way you speak to me is respectful.
24:41There is things, like, you need, like, you know,
24:43obey, respect, trust.
24:45That's why I need you to be a Muslim.
24:49The more that Mohammed tells me to obey and respect him,
24:53the less I feel like converting.
24:57I feel like the word obey, like,
24:59we use that for, like, servants, animals.
25:02I don't need to blindly obey my husband.
25:07So you think I can't be a good wife unless I am a Muslim?
25:10Yes.
25:12I love my Ashley, but I'm telling you right now,
25:15if Ashley not convert to Islam,
25:18that'll lead us to a huge problem.
25:23To be honest with you, if she not a Muslim,
25:27we will not be continuing in the future.
25:31I'm done with this conversation.
25:32Okay, then, good.
25:37When me and Laurie got into this relationship,
25:39we had this conversation.
25:40If we were gonna be together and get married,
25:42she'd have to convert.
25:43I just feel like if you really love someone,
25:45you shouldn't have to convert or do anything
25:47to be able to be with you.
25:49I think she was just giving her honest opinion
25:52that she thought I shouldn't have to.
25:54Well, her honest opinion sucks.
26:04Let's see how we're gonna set this up.
26:06You're doing it wrong.
26:07You gotta do it this way.
26:09Oh, my.
26:15Come in.
26:20I love this. It's so cute.
26:22You like it?
26:23I love it.
26:24My mom and my sister Jen flew in from Boston,
26:28and tonight we are going to have a housewarming party.
26:32Oh, you guys didn't have to get me anything.
26:35Oh, my God, stop.
26:37My family has expressed to me
26:39their reservations about me converting to Orthodox Judaism
26:44because of how strict the religion is.
26:49So while they're here,
26:50I want to show them that Judaism would be a good thing for me.
26:55This is Elena, Nadia.
26:57Hi.
26:58Nice to see you.
26:59Nice to meet you.
27:00You guys want tea or something?
27:03Aw, hey, queen.
27:06You look so good. You smell so good.
27:09I haven't seen you in, like, three months.
27:11I know. I'm huge now.
27:13Rosalie is Eli's cousin, his first cousin.
27:17She doesn't really live, like, a strong Orthodox life.
27:20In fact, she's also in a interfaith relationship
27:25with a Muslim man.
27:26Neither her or her husband wanted to convert,
27:29so they're going to raise their child with two religions.
27:32I really looked up to her when I met her
27:34because she just didn't give, like, a damn
27:36when anybody thought.
27:37Is the baby hungry? Is the baby hungry?
27:39No.
27:40Yeah, is the baby hungry?
27:41It was a rough night with her.
27:43Aw.
27:44Eli's mom, she's very close to my mother.
27:47They're sisters.
27:48It was uncomfortable for me growing up,
27:50like, when I would sleep over and stuff.
27:52There were, like, 50,000 rules and all,
27:54and it was just, I was like, what is going on, you know?
27:58So Eli will argue this,
28:00but to Orthodox Jews, I'm not, like, a real Jew
28:03because I don't do all the things that they do.
28:05French, French.
28:06I was going to see if we could get some pizza.
28:08White dog, what do you want, pizza?
28:10Jews and the Italians, Jews and Persians are very similar.
28:13Family-oriented.
28:14Yeah.
28:15Community.
28:16Cooking.
28:17Cooking.
28:18Food.
28:19Food.
28:20I hit the lottery.
28:21I found me a nice Italian.
28:22Aw.
28:23A nice Italian.
28:24A nice Italian that's going to convert.
28:26Yeah.
28:27Yes.
28:29So when does this all happen as far as Laurie converting?
28:33I'm not sure when, but hopefully soon.
28:36We're just waiting for Rabbi to schedule the last test.
28:40And that could be a while from now.
28:42No, I don't think so.
28:44Yeah.
28:45I'm, like, amazed at how supportive you are.
28:48So you were totally cool with this whole thing?
28:50I'm not saying I agree with everything...
28:53Right.
28:54...that you have to do in converting.
28:57Or once you're converted, the life you live.
29:00I'm not saying I agree with it.
29:02Mm-hmm.
29:03She's a grown woman.
29:04She makes up her own decisions, you know?
29:06Mm-hmm.
29:08When she first started the conversion,
29:10I actually, like, watched documentaries about it.
29:13And to be honest, I disagree with some of it.
29:16Some of Judaism, you know, some of the religion.
29:20There's a lot of rules.
29:21Some of them are pretty drastic.
29:23And there is some fear.
29:25Just want to make sure that she's safe
29:28in what she decides to do.
29:30I would never want my daughter to put up with anything
29:33that would hurt her.
29:37I'm, like, the very, like, black sheep of the family,
29:40like, open-minded.
29:41I'm married to a non-Jew.
29:43Yeah.
29:44Neither of us converted.
29:45Yeah.
29:46We agreed that we're not going to.
29:48So...
29:49But the baby's Jewish.
29:51Oh, there's that.
29:52The baby will be raised learning both.
29:55I love you to death.
29:57To me...
29:58Tell me how you really feel!
29:59I mean, I just feel like if you really love someone,
30:01you love someone for who they are.
30:03Like, they shouldn't have to convert or do anything
30:05to be able to be with you.
30:09I hate that convert-for-me-if-you-want-to-marry-me thing.
30:13For me, I would lie in bed every night
30:15kind of resenting you that you made me do this for you.
30:18And for him, I would lie in bed every night being like,
30:21well, did she really want to do this,
30:24or did I kind of just pressure her into doing it?
30:27So you should never convert for someone else.
30:31That is why my husband and I didn't do it.
30:34Because if we did it,
30:35it would have just been for the other person,
30:37and that's too much.
30:38When me and Laurie got into this relationship,
30:40we had this conversation.
30:42I was an open book.
30:43I said, this is what we're going to have to do.
30:45If we were going to be together and get married,
30:47she'd have to convert.
30:49I mean, it's 2023.
30:52Imagine having a kid, bring him into the world,
30:55and then saying, hey, we do this and we do that.
30:57We believe this and we believe that.
30:58The kid has no f***ing identity later in their life.
31:01They're going to be so confused.
31:02He's not going to know who the f*** he is when he walks outside.
31:05But I don't think that has anything to do with religion.
31:08When it comes to a person's identity and raising a family,
31:12I don't want to raise my kids
31:13with two different religions in the house.
31:16It's never confused anyone.
31:18I don't think there's anything confusing about
31:21blending two beliefs.
31:23If you know what each belief is,
31:25I feel like that is more strengthening, in my opinion,
31:28because you're accepting each other for who you are.
31:31It's kind of got me thinking, like,
31:33is there some other, like, agenda?
31:35Is he going to change, like, you know, as a person towards her,
31:39which is, like, kind of scary at the same time.
31:42Yeah, exactly.
31:45If you got divorced, would you still be Jewish?
31:50Of course.
31:52In the Jewish religion, once you convert,
31:54there's no not converting.
31:56Right, but once she converts, she cannot convert
31:59because she's not born Jewish? Is that what you're saying?
32:01Once she's converted, that's it. It's over.
32:03She cannot be Jewish anymore on practicing.
32:07That's what I mean.
32:08But all her kids are going to be Jewish.
32:10Right.
32:11When she gets buried,
32:12she'll be buried in a Jewish cemetery.
32:17So you won't be with dad or grandma or anything?
32:21No, no.
32:26I never thought about what would happen when I die,
32:30having to, you know, be buried in a different cemetery than my family.
32:35Catholic people, they believe in heaven and hell,
32:38but, like, there's no heaven and hell in Judaism.
32:41And that's worrisome because we're not going to be together,
32:44like, in the afterworld.
32:48Like, we're not going to see each other.
32:50That really f***** me up.
32:53I don't want to cry. I don't want to cry.
32:55Hold on.
32:57I'm emotional.
32:59I'm sorry.
33:02I'm sorry.
33:09I had a friend that was Christian, and she converted.
33:12She got married. They got divorced.
33:13She went right back to Christianity, doing Christmas, whatever.
33:15She didn't care because she literally just converted for him.
33:20Rose, she doesn't support the conversion, which pisses me off.
33:24Even though she's Jewish, she doesn't know anything about it.
33:26No, I think she was just giving her honest opinion that she thought
33:30that I shouldn't have to.
33:31Well, her honest opinion sucks.
33:32I didn't have to.
33:33Her honest opinion sucks.
33:34She didn't want me to convert for someone because she didn't,
33:38and she wants to let me know I don't have to do that either.
33:41I feel like it was disrespectful,
33:43especially when my girlfriend's sitting there
33:46that's going through this whole conversion process,
33:48and then she comes over and s**ts on everything.
33:50I don't appreciate that.
33:52Well, I agree with her point of view
33:55and understand where she's coming from.
33:59Can you have a Christmas tree if you decorate it with Hanukkah stuff?
34:03I don't want a Christmas tree.
34:04Just kidding.
34:09Lori has come so far in this conversion process.
34:12She has been putting in 110% effort.
34:15I do appreciate her hard work.
34:17At this point, I'm worried that Rose is going to put negativity
34:21into the thoughts of her family and Lori's mind.
34:24The last thing we need right now
34:26are doubts of her wanting to convert or not.
34:37Yes, I do leave s**t laying around.
34:39Todd doesn't do that.
34:40So you're calling me a toddler, huh?
34:42This is stuff that the regular society would know.
34:45Well, I didn't come from the regular society.
34:47But you know now.
34:48You say, oh, you don't do nothing around the house.
34:51What do you do?
34:52If he's not ready to do this,
34:54then how are we going to bring this baby into the world?
34:56I'm done.
34:57Me too.
35:07Come on, Paolo.
35:08Paolo's excited.
35:10I'm going to jump over this.
35:11You're going to hurt your nuts.
35:13Oh, my gosh.
35:14One of these days, you're not going to be lucky.
35:23You're excited, huh?
35:25Yeah.
35:26Got to check out your path today.
35:28See what dogs have been out here pooping in your area.
35:32The Michigan trip was rough.
35:34Like, it is almost like Elmer was getting shunned again.
35:37Like, I think it really affected him a lot.
35:41You want to sit down?
35:42Yeah.
35:43Take a break.
35:44Quit picking at that.
35:45Since we've been back, Elmer is regressing hardcore.
35:50Back to the old Amish mindset.
35:53I've been trying to avoid a fight
35:54because I can tell he's hurting,
35:55but his bad habits are getting worse again.
35:58He is forgetting everything.
35:59I started to teach him about manners and hygiene
36:03and just picking up after himself.
36:05I have a baby coming,
36:06and I can't be a mother to a baby and him at the same time.
36:13We're about to have a baby,
36:16and just some of this stuff,
36:18I need you to step up a little bit
36:20because things are starting to surface,
36:22and I'm noticing things.
36:24Like, noticing what?
36:26Like, picking up after yourself.
36:29If you make a mess, clean it up.
36:32I mean, I have to remind you to brush your teeth
36:34and wash your hands every day.
36:37This is stuff that even, like, a regular 23-year-old
36:41in the regular society would know,
36:43like, to wash your hands.
36:44Well, I didn't come from the regular society.
36:45I know, but you know now.
36:48It has been exhausting trying to undo
36:52what he has always believed growing up
36:55about what a man's role and a woman's role is.
37:00How I grew up in the Amish life between men and women,
37:03I mean, it's like we went to work,
37:05we worked our ass off, we come home,
37:07house is cleaned, laundry's done.
37:08Like, we wouldn't even get up from the table
37:10to do our own dishes,
37:11so that's what was ingrained for about 20 years of my life.
37:14Clearly.
37:15So that's what's in my head.
37:16If you would have grown up that lifestyle,
37:18you'd be different too.
37:19Yeah, but you left that lifestyle.
37:22I mean, heck, last week,
37:24you literally drew on the kitchen wall.
37:26Well, it's because I was on the phone
37:27and I wasn't thinking what I was doing,
37:28and I was just doing something.
37:31That's like a toddler behavior.
37:33Like, toddlers do that.
37:34So you're calling me a toddler, huh?
37:36Yeah, but, I mean, you don't draw on the wall.
37:38I'm fidgeting around, okay?
37:39I'm trying to stay awake.
37:42I'm worried that once the baby's here,
37:44Elmer's not going to be a help at all,
37:47and he's going to be an extra burden on top of that.
37:51I want a partner there to help me,
37:53somebody I can count on.
37:55If he's not ready to do this,
37:56then how are we going to bring this baby in the world?
37:59My biggest fear is I'm going to be stuck
38:02raising this kid all alone.
38:04How do you know?
38:05How do you know that I'm not going to be there for our kids?
38:08How do you know?
38:09I don't know that, but I'm just trying to come...
38:11Well, then why do you keep saying it?
38:13Because you can't even take care of yourself.
38:18Lindsey keeps saying that I can't even take care of myself,
38:21which is a total lie.
38:23In my 23 years, I have gone through more s***
38:26than a lot of these English people out here
38:29go through in their whole lifetime.
38:31Like, I have gone through living hell in the Amish.
38:35Like, going through, you know, s*** in a hole,
38:37bathing out of the same bath water as everybody else.
38:40I mean, I can take care of myself.
38:42I'm a hell of a lot tougher and a lot stronger
38:44and in a stronger world than all these pussy men
38:46that she's used to.
38:49You point out all my flaws.
38:51You say, oh, you're childish.
38:53You don't do nothing around the house.
38:55You don't.
38:56That's a lie.
38:57You're lying right there because I do.
38:58What do you do?
39:00What do you do around the house?
39:01I clean up the other night.
39:02One time you picked up your stuff
39:04and you want a f***ing sticker?
39:05Oh, good job, Elmer.
39:07You took care of your own s***.
39:09I'm seriously about, like, my wits end.
39:11I'm done with this stuff.
39:14Like, I need a man to raise a baby with.
39:23Why did you marry me then?
39:25Elmer.
39:26Why did you marry me?
39:27Because I love you and this is just basic stuff
39:29and you can work on it.
39:30You can improve it.
39:31I do work on it.
39:32Yes, I do leave s*** laying around.
39:34What guy out there don't do that, huh?
39:36Elmer, a lot of guys don't.
39:37Responsible, older guys don't.
39:39There again, here we go.
39:40You're drooling on yourself right now.
39:42Because I'm f***ing pissed.
39:44Well, like, just grow up.
39:46You knew I was 23 when I married you.
39:48I didn't know you acted like a child.
39:52It's not right for Lindsey to take her anger out on me
39:55because she's the one that pushed the marriage.
39:58She's the one that pushed how fast she got pregnant
40:00because she said, my biological clock is ticking away.
40:03And plus, Lindsey knows that I grew up Amish
40:07and how I was before we were married,
40:10so she knew what she was getting herself into.
40:16Maybe you shouldn't have chose me to be your dad.
40:19Maybe not.
40:26That's f***ed up.
40:29I wish she would realize how much I sacrificed.
40:34I gave up everything for Lindsey.
40:37Everything in my Amish life,
40:39I gave up the love from my family for her.
40:42I left all those old relationships behind me just for Lindsey.
40:47And it's really hard on me.
40:49If giving up everything from my past,
40:51if that's not enough,
40:53I don't know if I'm ever going to be enough for her.
40:57I'm done.
40:58Me too.
41:04Next time on Forbidden Love...
41:06Oh!
41:07Rabbi Block.
41:08All right, answer, answer.
41:09Rabbi, how are you?
41:12I've been eagerly waiting for Rabbi Block
41:16to let me know if I can take the conversion test.
41:19What's going on?
41:20Um...
41:21But also he can say, I'm not ready
41:24and you're never going to make it as a Jew.
41:26Just, like, give up.
41:28What'd he say?
41:32Oh, here's Chris.
41:34Yay!
41:36What's up?
41:37How you doing?
41:38I'm about to move to Michigan to be with Lindsey
41:41and I have to tell my parents something they don't want to hear.
41:46Thinking about converting, you know, to Islam.
41:50Something you don't let nobody change about you.
41:59Yeah, he says that I don't obey him.
42:01Yes, you do.
42:03I definitely know that if I don't convert,
42:05my marriage won't last much longer.
42:07But converting to Islam is still a huge decision for me.
42:10I still have a lot of concerns,
42:12like, do I always have to obey my husband?
42:15These are not from him.
42:16These are from Allah.
42:18You have to listen to your husband.
42:27I creeped up behind him
42:29and he in the corner on his phone
42:31writing messages to women.
42:35F*** you.