PTI Jalsa | Omar Ayub Resigns , And Rauf Hassan likely to be removed as position | Inside Story
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PTI Jalsa | Omar Ayub Resigns , And Rauf Hassan likely to be removed as position | Inside Story
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00:00There have been some changes in your Jamaat.
00:02Mr. Umar Ayub resigned for the second time.
00:04The party did not accept him for the first time,
00:06but this time they accepted him.
00:08What happened behind the scene
00:10that he was not accepted for the first time?
00:12Even then he said that he cannot fulfill his responsibilities.
00:14Then he was told to continue.
00:16More or less, the same reasons are still there.
00:18But this time he was told not to do it.
00:20Look,
00:22it is a very simple thing that
00:24Mr. Umar Ayub is the leader of the opposition.
00:26So he is the prime minister in waiting
00:28in the National Assembly.
00:30This is a double full-time job.
00:32And the secretary-general
00:34is the pivot of the party.
00:36All the decisions have to be taken by the secretary-general's office.
00:38And frankly,
00:40I have spoken to Mr. Umar Ayub
00:42many times about this.
00:44He says that he is not able to do it.
00:46Thirdly, the burden that he has right now,
00:48which is a very big burden.
00:50Every day, virtually, he has to travel to one part of the country or the other
00:52regarding his cases.
00:54There have been multiple cases on him.
00:56Sometimes he is in Lahore, sometimes he is in Sargodha,
00:58sometimes he is in Gujranwala.
01:00Almost four or five days of the week, he is out of city.
01:02You know, he is going to his bail system.
01:04So, he is not able to do the party.
01:06That is why he had already resigned.
01:08And now, on Mr. Khan's request,
01:10since he was not accepted,
01:12he continued.
01:14But this was constantly on his mind
01:16that I am not able to do justice.
01:18The party is suffering.
01:20So he was more interested in continuing his
01:22parliamentary career.
01:24He said that he will assist
01:26and help as a common worker.
01:28I will be present wherever I need to be.
01:30So, is this the only change in the party?
01:32Because I have heard that
01:34the Secretary of Information is also changing.
01:36The Secretary of Information is sitting in front of you.
01:38That is why I am asking you.
01:40No, no. There is no such thing.
01:42There is no such thing.
01:44Mr. Sheikh Waqas Akram's name is circulating.
01:46That is why I am directly asking you
01:48whether this is true or not.
01:50Because this is heard.
01:52So, I will go.
01:54The day I meet Mr. Khan, I will talk to him.
01:56I will ask him.
01:58So, in any meeting,
02:00did the leaders not trust you
02:02that there should be a change
02:04in the Secretary of Information?
02:06There has never been such a thing.
02:08On the contrary,
02:10he has always been very profusely appreciative
02:12of the work that I have done.
02:14I am very grateful to him.
02:16But the change comes in the party.
02:18It should come. It should keep coming.
02:20I will tell him that I am not able to do my work properly.
02:22So, I will go myself and ask him to replace me.
02:24But till this moment,
02:26as you and I talk,
02:28there is no such situation in my knowledge.
02:30Sir, let's move ahead a little.
02:32The Jalsa that is taking place tomorrow
02:34in Islamabad,
02:36is it under any arrangement?
02:38Because we are seeing that
02:40earlier, there were no permits.
02:42There was no facilitation.
02:44Now, all that is happening.
02:46Most probably, we will see on the media tomorrow
02:48that there are no obstacles
02:50in front of people.
02:52So, what does it mean?
02:54Because if there is a change in tone,
02:56change in mood, change in strategy,
02:58what is it?
03:00I have been trying to explain it for the past 2-3 days.
03:02I will repeat it here in your program as well.
03:04See, how did the situation
03:06progress?
03:08Our Jalsa on 22nd August
03:10was taking place on the same day
03:12when in Islamabad, you know,
03:14the religious communities were also being cut.
03:16At that time, you know,
03:18there were containers everywhere.
03:20So, on the same night,
03:22when it was supposed to happen in the morning,
03:24on the night of 21st,
03:26we were contacted by the people of the establishment
03:28and they requested us to
03:30proceed with the Jalsa.
03:32Can I ask from which level
03:34you were contacted?
03:36I think, if we don't go into that,
03:38it is better.
03:40So, along with that,
03:42they gave us the NOC of the Jalsa on 8th September
03:44So, you had it with you?
03:46Yes, they gave it to us on the night of 21st.
03:48Was it a verbal NOC?
03:50No, it was in writing.
03:52In writing, you had it?
03:54In that, the venue was not defined
03:56but the date, the No Objection Certificate
03:58issued by the district administration
04:00was handed over to us on the same night,
04:02on 21st.
04:04So, in the morning, Mr. Swati was in jail.
04:06After that, Mr. Alimin Gandapur
04:08told them to proceed with the Jalsa.
04:10He said that only one person
04:12can do that, who is in the jail.
04:14So, you know that the doors of the jail
04:16were opened at 7 in the morning.
04:18Mr. Swati and our chairman
04:20went there and
04:22informed Mr. Khan about the situation.
04:24And Mr. Khan, understandably,
04:26reluctantly, told them to proceed with the Jalsa.
04:28And that Jalsa was done.
04:30So, there was a request
04:32from the establishment
04:34which we obliged.
04:36Today, regarding the Jalsa on 8th September,
04:38since the last two days,
04:40when people come to the Jalsa,
04:42they are kidnapped,
04:44their belongings are kept there,
04:46they are kidnapped,
04:48they are taken away,
04:50then they are released from the police station.
04:52They have changed the venue three times.
04:54We have got the No Objection Certificate
04:56for that venue as well.
04:58That is why we are doing this Jalsa.
05:00So, a lot of problems are being created
05:02by the administration.
05:04But the Jalsa will take place tomorrow.
05:06It will definitely take place.
05:08What's the headcount?
05:10What's your expected headcount?
05:12I can't tell you the numbers.
05:14As much as there is passion,
05:16I think it will be a special world.
05:18I don't think the venue
05:20they have given us will be enough
05:22to accommodate people.
05:24But along with that,
05:26I would like to say that
05:28all the routes have been blocked.
05:30From Punjab to Kishtyar,
05:32from outside areas,
05:34all the routes have been blocked.
05:36People will come from KP as well.
05:38The Chief Minister himself is leading.
05:40He is the leader of the Jalsa itself.
05:42Will they come with an official status?
05:44Will the KP administration
05:46facilitate it?
05:48When the Chief Minister moves,
05:50it is a must that
05:52he has his own protocol.
05:54When he comes, it is a must
05:56that he comes with a protocol.
05:58People are coming from Punjab.
06:00People have come from far off places.
06:02They have reached Islamabad and Rawalpindi.
06:04I expect a very good crowd tomorrow.
06:34I think in that context,
06:36Mr. Khan gave a statement
06:38that this is a time to stay unified
06:40rather than creating divisions.
06:42After his statement,
06:44there has been a lot of improvement.
06:46They are trying to rectify
06:48the small issues at the political level.
06:50So, this is your communication strategy.
06:52You can see a little bit of
06:54haphazardness in it.
06:56In one week, you saw
06:58that Mr. Marwad is in the party
07:00and not in the next week.
07:02You are meeting Mr. Khan.
07:04There are a lot of delays.
07:06Who is in control?
07:08Who is in charge?
07:10Mr. Khan is in jail.
07:12Who is making the political strategy?
07:14There are two sources
07:16for decision making.
07:18Mr. Khan has empowered
07:20the political committee
07:22which has 24 members.
07:24Those decisions go to Mr. Khan
07:26for final approval.
07:28Some decisions are made by Mr. Khan
07:30and some decisions are made
07:32by the political committee.
07:34These are the two sources
07:36for decision making.
07:38We don't have any other
07:40mechanism for decision making.
07:42Let's move on.
07:44Mr. Marwad's haphazardness
07:46I gave an example.
07:48It is a very prominent example.
07:50There is no other such issue.
07:52The differences in the party
07:54are there.
07:56The problem is
07:58I have expressed this
08:00on forums and public forums.
08:02The issue in PTI
08:04is that
08:06the discussions in the party
08:08are taken to the public forums.
08:10The media picks them.
08:12We can't blame the media.
08:14There are a few people
08:16who do this.
08:18We try to convince them
08:20that there are forums available.
08:22You can sit there and
08:24express your differences
08:26and take a decision.
08:28There are a few people
08:30who create issues.