La Reina Máxima de los Países Bajos ha vuelto a Argentina para festejar el 80º cumpleaños de su madre. Durante su visita, se ha generado polémica en los Países Bajos debido a la serie sobre su vida. Máxima es muy querida tanto en su país natal como en Europa, y su regreso ha despertado gran interés mediático.
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00:00how much glamour for this table, how is it going well, very good, well we are going to get into a topic that
00:06aroused a lot of controversy because Luca Máxima arrived in Argentina because his mother blew the
00:12candles, exactly, turning 80 years old, the mother of the mother, it is not said the age, it is said because we are here, 80, we are talking about the second queen after Susana
00:22who is in Argentina this weekend or this week enjoying a little of what would be the
00:27company of her fellow citizens, now what is the problem in the Netherlands we continue to have
00:32controversy over the famous series of Maxima, we have a small information, let's see and we get into the complete
00:43I wanted to look especially for the human being, you saw how we are used to seeing
00:50the maximum as if through the lens of the camera like her when she goes out to greet and when she
00:56goes out to greet the public, very human, yes, super transparent and that is the quality I think they
01:02love the most there and a little bit here too, yes of course, it happened to me that traveling there I saw it so
01:09from the inside the love they have for her, I never thought I was going to have the possibility of traveling to
01:14so many places and that she being on Wall Street, I say you saw her filming there because it is the bank
01:21where she worked and for me as an actress there you stop, you don't do anything and you are already crossed by the place
01:27you see how that already speaks and transforms you, if there is something about the area I suppose that gives you that too
01:34like that confidence of course she was here so her spirit is here in some way or another
01:39Yes, New York has a spirit of its own, you see, and being there too and I imagined this girl came here and worked
01:46in a bank and worked 16 hours a day, being a woman, which is not the same as being a man, in the 90s,
01:53sexism and not very nice people working around and it was done and it broke her, how does it feel now not only to have
02:00the Argentine perspective but worldwide and ignore people from the Netherlands, the United States, Europe, how is it for you to
02:07deal with that type of world comments? First I deleted Twitter from my cell phone, I said I am not going to do this,
02:14no, the notes in Dutch I don't even understand them, so if they hate me, I don't know, if I look like the worst actress in the world, I will never know,
02:23no, Argentina for me is, it gives me a lot of nerves. I saw that many Dutch media speak precisely about the scenes of love and sex that you have,
02:31as if it had shocked them a bit. Yes, but for them, not for me, yes, for them, yes, I always tell them that when I saw the scenes,
02:41they saw the sex scenes because they do like, I didn't know, but they do like a test of, what is it called? Yes, like a test, they put all the spectators
02:49in a theater, I think there are buttons, I had never heard of it, which scene they like, which scene they don't, it's like an audience test, there it is.
02:57And the sex scenes, the scene, the first chapter, all red button, it caused them a lot of discomfort and this, I repeat, because they told me,
03:08it was very funny because it gave them the same feeling as seeing their father and mother having sex, it seemed very uncomfortable to them.
03:16They don't have sex, gentlemen, because they don't have sex.
03:19How did the daughters come to the world, that the queens don't make love?
03:24Yes, of course, because the series is directed by Dutch and a Catalan.
03:28But you have to show it that way, Rubén, how do you say it?
03:30The chapter, sorry, what it shows is relatively bad.
03:35Why?
03:36It's an approximation, it has a little bit of script and decoration, a little to bring it closer, to humanize it.
03:45The sex is annoying, how is it treated?
03:47Not that it is annoying to have sex, obviously, but if in a premarital instance, and if I had been pregnant before.
03:54Look, guys, stop, stop, why is it an antipathy?
04:02And who doesn't have sex? Do you have to wait to get married to have sex?
04:05No, no, but guys, you are talking about the vulgar.
04:09Let's see.
04:10Each person has a condition where a natural child, that is, not legitimate, is annulled by the succession to the throne.
04:18It's not something, if the firstborn.
04:19A bastard.
04:20Of course.
04:21It's a protocol.
04:22Well, but it's not a protocol, it's a state condition.
04:23But it suggests that there is even a protocol in all this, it is not the man in the corner.
04:27But imagine if she had gotten pregnant there, how would she disguise herself?
04:30How would she change her behavior?
04:31But they know perfectly, and they have all the means, they know what the contraceptive method is,
04:35that is, how are we going to protect the queen?
04:37In fact, they had relationships.
04:38But everything, but obviously, it's something natural, guys.
04:41Why bother so much?
04:42Let's see, one thing is how we see it, another thing is how the crown sees it.
04:45But they are human, we are not talking about aliens.
04:48But the crown, no, but the crown are aliens.
04:50Those of the crown are aliens.
04:52I bet he can't get pregnant now.
04:54Can't he have sex with his partner?
04:56I already said that.
04:57I said that that danger, that instance, besides those intimate issues that have to do with the king,
05:06is for the people of Netherlands quite ...
05:09And why did they put it as something ...
05:11Because we are in the Middle Ages.
05:12Of course, thank you, thank you.
05:14But guys, the issue ...
05:15I don't say it to you, I say it to the people of Netherlands.
05:18Of course.
05:19Very good.
05:20But sorry, here the issue, if you put together a biopic, is it called?
05:23Yes.
05:24Do you need to put it as a hook or do you need to tell the true story?
05:27It seems to me that the discussion goes through there and no one is going to be scared for nothing.
05:30Obviously.
05:31The issue is how you treat it.
05:32And they are a little weaker than her in that first chapter.
05:35They are weaker, like her, knowing what she wants,
05:40he is a little more genuflected, apparently, and at her will.
05:44A little pusillanimous at times, in the sense that it depends a lot on the opinion.
05:49They have conversations where you see him more vulnerable.
05:51And in that same sex scene, she is, I don't know, very graphic,
05:54the one who takes control of the situation.
05:56Very good.
05:57Very good.
05:58Very good.
05:59Very good.
06:00Sorry.
06:01Very good.
06:02Someone endorsed this series to go on air.
06:04Six chapters of 50 minutes, I say, someone checked it.
06:07This is the authorized one.
06:08This is the authorized one, it is not the clandestine.
06:11No, no, of course.
06:12Someone authorized it.
06:13Maximum official series.
06:14I have a question.
06:15This series is set to bring the magnificent image closer.
06:19Whenever the crown does something like this, it is a communication strategy
06:22and humanization of the crown.
06:24But in the case of the English crown, all the good and all the bad were shown in The Crown.
06:29But not such strong scenes in between comics.
06:32No, here the lady says no, no, no, no.
06:35The Crown had to have shown all the bad, it could.
06:38Be careful, they show a lot of things, a lot of things.
06:40Yes, but it had to have shown everything.
06:42They kept a lot.
06:43There is an abysmal difference between both series.
06:46Between the two crowns?
06:47Totally.
06:48But that Prince Charles did not show up with Camila.
06:50If you allow me, let's see.
06:52Let's see.
06:53Tell us.
06:54Abysmal difference.
06:55A little, yes.
06:56It has been wanted to emulate a little the instance, as a result of the event that caused The Crown,
07:00but obviously the subject was warm.
07:03And yes, they didn't do it very well either.
07:06Of course, they searched.
07:07Of course, they do it to their convenience.
07:09That is not the reality of what happened.
07:11The reality of what happened, we don't know.
07:13But sorry, are you talking about Lady Diana Spencer?
07:16Wasn't it?
07:17Santa Bernadita, they said.
07:18No, we don't know.
07:19Well, but are you friends with her?
07:20Do you know?
07:21Because we are talking about a person who died and we don't know.
07:23What we know is what came out in the media.
07:25The official.
07:26Of course.
07:27Yes, yes, obviously.
07:28And we know perfectly well that The Crown many times filters things
07:32so that the people don't find out about certain others.
07:34Or Rubén, what do you consider there?
07:36And she also called the press to filter and know things that she wanted to be known.
07:39And that's fine.
07:40But obviously, Diana is dead.
07:41She went out of her hands and ended up.
07:42How did she end up?
07:43And why?
07:44What do you mean by out of her hands?
07:45She went out of her hands.
07:46Because the press forced her in such a way that the outcome has to do with that.
07:51Now, Rubén, couldn't you have wanted to make the Dutch crown something similar
07:56to the economic business that generates the British crown?
07:59It doesn't need it.
08:00They are much richer than you think.
08:02It's old money.
08:03No, it's fine.
08:04But you saw that there is a lot of tourism, which is a crown tourism.
08:07Yes.
08:08In this case, I don't know anyone who goes to the Netherlands to see the crown.
08:11No, but it's an attraction.
08:12Clearly, it's an attraction.
08:13It's our turn because Máxima is Argentine.
08:14Here because Máxima is Argentine.
08:15Of course.
08:16If not, no.
08:17No, no.
08:18Not at all.
08:19Because Máxima was Argentine.
08:20They are different.
08:21Of course.
08:22Now.
08:23It may be that there is an intention by Máxima to get closer to the Argentine people
08:26than to the Dutch people.
08:27He doesn't need it.
08:28I think he's not thinking about that.
08:29No, I think he's going the other way, right?
08:31And the problem that the series had, mainly with the people in Holland,
08:34was not a reaction of, this is wrong.
08:37It was a reaction of, we don't want to see this.
08:39Of course.
08:40Here in Argentina, there were many people.
08:42I translate it.
08:43This is unnecessary.
08:44This part is unnecessary.
08:45Don't make us do that.
08:46It's what sells the rest of the world.
08:48It's natural.
08:49It's human.
08:50It's the hook to be able to see it.
08:52Delfina does it very well, they say, right?
08:53For me, Delfina is fine.
08:54She is convincing.
08:55I don't like her.
08:56You didn't like her?
08:57I think she was convincing as the role.
08:58And she, in person, when she tells you how it is to get into the shoes of that character,
09:01it shows that the idea was seriously bought.
09:04Not all the series is consistent with the performance, according to me.
09:07That first chapter, for me, is pretty good.
09:09And after each episode...
09:10The true Maxima Sorrellita has a...
09:12A very copyable imprint.
09:13Difficult to copy, obviously.
09:15Impossible.
09:16Now, what came?
09:17Buenos Aires for the mother.
09:18For the birthday of the mother.
09:19For the birthday of the mother, right?
09:20Birthday, yes.
09:21There was a party of women.
09:22It was, in this case, perfectly carried out the whole device.
09:28Arrival, departure.
09:29It's like a prologue, right?
09:31With her eldest daughter, I think.
09:33With the youngest daughter.
09:34No, no.
09:35With the youngest daughter of all.
09:36Ah, with the daughter.
09:37She can never come with the heir, because no crown is transferred like that,
09:41because of the succession.
09:42I want to ask him a question.
09:45Or with your daughter.
09:46No, no, wait.
09:47If all...
09:48Let's look at the Republic.
09:49If the whole Acefalia-Argentina law, all the heads, the president, the Senate,
09:53travel together and disappear, what do we stay?
09:56Well, the same thing happens there.
09:57But they don't govern in the Netherlands.
10:00Let's say, it's the crown, but they don't make the decisions.
10:02But if the plane falls, we don't even have the gold.
10:05The head of state.
10:07Let's not complicate life.
10:08Like a president in a republic.
10:10Exactly.
10:11Gentlemen, thank you very much for...