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Video Information: Shabdyog Session, 24.12.2018, Advait BodhSthal, Greater Noida, India

Context:

मन को मारूँ पटक के, टूक-टूक होई जाय।
विष की क्यारी बोय के, अब काहे पछताय ॥
- गुरु कबीर साहिब

Let me hit hard the mind and break it into pieces,
After performing bad deeds. it is now repenting.
Guru Kabir Sahib

¬ What is spirituality?
¬ How to chant the name of lord?
¬ How is music related to spirituality?
¬ What subjects are sung by bhakti saints?
¬ What is divine love?
¬ When we face reality, we feel as if we have been badly bashed. So, how should one respond in such situations?

Music Credits: Milind Date
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Transcript
00:00Sing with a Kabir or sing Kabir with yourself.
00:15That's the best thing.
00:18The best thing is to sing.
00:25The best thing is to sing.
00:36But we have become, you know, very, very unmusical.
00:40Our instruments have lost their tuning.
00:50We have forgotten to sing.
00:55We have lost all verse.
01:05So the fallout of that is that your Acharya ji has to laboriously speak in prose.
01:14And therefore he has to speak so much.
01:16Otherwise two lines of a Kabir are much more than sufficient.
01:23And even after speaking so much, do I even come close to what he said?
01:27I don't.
01:38Sing.
01:43There is no alternative to that.
01:58Without knowing the meaning, know the meaning and sing.
02:19He definitely wanted you to know the meaning and sing.
02:22That's why he sang in the language of the people.
02:26Had he just wanted you to croon anything unintelligible, then why would he compose
02:39in the very language of the ordinary people?
02:42Why did he do that?
02:45Because he wanted you to also know the literal meaning of his words.
02:52If I can help you know the literal meaning of his words, good.
02:58To that extent, use me.
03:01But do sing.
03:20Then Kabir Saheb has a different slog for you.
03:31Not all verses about man or mind are applicable to all states of the mind.
03:40So, it's not as if the saints have just cursed the mind incessantly.
04:02They have also praised the mind.
04:04If the mind brings you to the Guru, glory to the mind.
04:10If the mind takes you towards destruction, depends on the direction the mind is taking.
04:28If you will go to the Upanishads, they will say there is no greater friend than the mind
04:42and neither is there an enemy bigger than the mind.
04:49The mind is both, best friend and biggest enemy.
04:59Your friend and your enemy are at war with each other.
05:02Who will win?
05:08Who will win?
05:10You are the referee.
05:11You don't even have to choose.
05:14You just have to declare.
05:18Keep declaring the right result.
05:22Keep declaring the right result.
05:39You have to remember what I just said.
05:44Irrespective of how one behaves or what one says, deeply, ultimately, all want, so irrespective
06:00of what your impulsive reaction is, you must also remember that nobody does anything for
06:21self-harm.
06:22Even when a person commits suicide, he is actually trying to minimize self-harm.
06:30It doesn't matter whether the world is ignorant or arrogant.
06:43It doesn't matter what qualities or characteristics are being displayed.
06:48Are they being displayed so that the one displaying them gets harmed?
06:56You might be ignorant and you are walking towards a hole.
07:03But is it self-harm that you want?
07:08You are just ignorant and if you are ignorant, do I curse you or do I help you?
07:18The Prakritic instinct would be to curse.
07:26Wisdom would be to helpfully curse.
07:34So when you curse, curse in a way that helps.
07:41What is Kabir Sahab saying here?
07:42Obviously, he is cursing the mind.
07:50But look at the love.
07:51What is he scolding the mind for?
07:53He is saying, you are the one who sowed all the poisonous seeds.
08:02Now you are repenting.
08:06He is actually teaching the mind something.
08:09What is he teaching the mind?
08:11Do not sow seeds of poison.
08:19Like the benevolent grandfather, you know, who scolds you but nevertheless helps you
08:32and he scolds you so that the need to be helped reduces.
08:43Saints have scolded a lot.
08:49In fact, even Buddha who is commonly considered the epitome of poise and compassion has been
09:00very very harsh in his scoldings.
09:04He has used choicest words.
09:09Sometimes he has called you an ass, sometimes a pig.
09:17It is for the sake of compassion.
09:23And it is because those who run from the center of fear sometimes require fear even
09:41to be helped.
09:43Are you getting it?
09:51Suppose there is a patient, a diseased one in the spiritual sense.
10:02And what is his disease?
10:06His disease is that he works only through fear.
10:17His disease is that he knows only fear.
10:21Nothing can make him move or work except fear.
10:27Now you want to take this person to a doctor of spirituality.
10:36This fellow is a sick man in the spiritual sense and you want to take him to a doctor
10:43who would cure him and this man knows only one motivation and the motivation is fear.
10:52How do you take this man to the doctor?
10:59Therefore the saints scold.
11:02Therefore the saints scold.
11:05No, honesty is not needed.
11:13Honesty is needed to be fearless.
11:16Honesty is not needed to be fearful.
11:18It is needed to be fearless.
11:20The ones who live by the center of fear always live in the imagination of assumed outcomes
11:29and that's why they live in fear.
11:33So all that the teacher then needs is a certain worldly power using which he should be able
11:40to induce fear in the other person.
11:47The teacher must have a certain worldly authority as well.
11:54Using which he should be able to induce fear.
11:57But when we are talking about the ability and the intent of the teacher to induce fear
12:01in someone, let it not go too far.
12:06We are only talking of as much fear as is required to bring this patient to the doctor.
12:11Nothing more than that.
12:13We are not talking of fear becoming a way of life.
12:19We are not talking of fear as the preferred instrument of the teacher.
12:27We are not glorifying fear.
12:29Please.
12:30The aim is fearlessness.
12:38But sometimes our love for fearlessness can get so very shrouded beneath all kinds of
12:47rubbish that we just lose that charm.
12:53The teacher may come and say, you know what?
12:56You live in fear.
12:57Come with me.
12:59I'll take you to fearlessness.
13:00And the fellow will say, fearlessness?
13:01I don't want that.
13:02I don't want that.
13:06He wants that and yet does not know that he wants.
13:10That's the situation of man.
13:15So then the teacher has no option but to temporarily use fear.
13:24Getting it Anshu?
13:26So that power has to be very, very discreetly applied.

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