Leroy questions if the state of the NFL shocks us at the moment? Tobin points out all the bad things going on with the Dolphins right now... Even when Tua returns, will that be enough?
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00:00Are we still, like, as far as the season has gone to this point, a lot of, like, just shock, right?
00:12Yeah.
00:13Winning, who's not. Does that give you reason to, like, just relax?
00:19Are you talking about the-
00:20Just in general.
00:21Yeah, okay.
00:21Like, teams that are winning, teams that are losing, teams that look good, teams that look bad.
00:27Does, based on what you've seen this year, does it give you a little more patience with the
00:34Dolphins simply because there's a lot of teams that just don't look good right now that you know
00:40have talent?
00:42No. No, that doesn't help me at all.
00:44No, no. What a ridiculous statement by you. No. They got smoked by the Bills.
00:49What do you mean it's not ridiculous?
00:50The Bills look incredible.
00:52But, like, did you think Pittsburgh was going to be 3-0?
00:58I didn't. I didn't think they were going to be 3-0, but-
01:01Right.
01:01But-
01:02Do you think they were going to be- Wait, wait. After three games of the season,
01:06did you think the Pittsburgh Seals would be leading that division?
01:10I think I'm more surprised by the struggles of the other teams. If you were telling me what's
01:15more surprising-
01:15But that's what I'm saying. If I give you right now, right now, if I gave you a choice,
01:22between Pittsburgh and Baltimore, who are you taking?
01:26I think I'm taking Pittsburgh.
01:28So, you think Pittsburgh will win the division and Baltimore won't bounce back?
01:32They might bounce back, but I think Pittsburgh is, like, you already got Mike Tomlinoff to a fast
01:36start.
01:38Right. No, I got, I, listen, and these are, like, I was just chewing on this. Like, I don't,
01:43like, I don't know. I know a lot of people would still take Baltimore.
01:47But if you really looked at it, like, that's the only surprising division because, like,
01:50AFC South, Houston's leading-
01:52You can't even count the NFC South. I don't, because that, throw that up for grabs.
01:57Yeah, but let's just talk about this conference. Like, Houston's two and one. Everybody thought
02:01they were going to lead that division. Jaguars, I think the Jaguars being winless is probably
02:06surprising. But, you know, that's, I think they misguided. I think they're kind of in the same
02:15place right now that the Dolphins are at.
02:17You could go with, Kansas City is basically where, yeah, we're-
02:22Kansas City's leading.
02:23How about San Francisco?
02:26San Francisco struggling is a big one, and especially with the diagnosis of McCaffrey
02:33being pretty ominous, you know? Everybody's talking Achilles, Madden curse, you strike
02:38again. You know, that's not great.
02:41So, like, just look, I mean, you know, you had some teams with big, Minnesota. Did you
02:47see this out of Minnesota? Everybody was talking Green Bay.
02:52Yeah, Minnesota's probably the biggest surprise of everybody.
02:56And then Seattle's three and oh.
02:59Seattle, like, in a division where the 49ers are so banged up, I don't even know if they
03:08can bounce back.
03:09I think if you look at Seattle, like Seattle's like almost like the Dolphins last year, like
03:13people are going to sniff around fraud on them, because if you look at their wins, Broncos
03:18beat a Bonix in his debut dog fight with the Patriots begging to give the Dolphins that
03:24game with Skylar Thompson starting and the Dolphins just couldn't do it.
03:27So they're a little, they smell a little fraudulent, but a three and oh, three, you know,
03:32good for them.
03:32Right.
03:33But, but if I look at it, so yeah, I guess the NFC, the same, there's definitely more
03:37surprises in the NFC.
03:39The AFC does not really that the, the, the, the, the thing's not really, but it builds
03:45better than you thought.
03:46The bills are better than I thought they would be.
03:48Yeah, of course.
03:49Okay.
03:50Yeah.
03:50And Josh Allen's been amazing.
03:52Yeah.
03:52He's been amazing.
03:53He hasn't missed Stefan Diggs one bit, and they've done this with a banged up defense.
03:59I think if you're the most pessimistic Dolphin fan, a lot of your worries have come to light.
04:06That's, I think the thing, the thing with the Dolphins that's upsetting.
04:09And I think a lot of people, and I'm sure Steven Ross has probably thought about this
04:13at night.
04:14It's nice that they gave out all the contracts.
04:16It's nice that everybody's happy.
04:18But if you talked about, Hey, what, how could this go badly?
04:24Everything has come to light.
04:25Like everything, your quarterback.
04:27Yeah.
04:28Offensive line to, uh, uh, your old running back hasn't played, you know, like all the
04:35construct of the Dolphins, Mike McDaniel's play callings.
04:37Like it's weird.
04:38It's a ugly head in every single way.
04:41They're the only team that hasn't had a lead.
04:43That's pretty crazy.
04:44They've been down double digits in every game.
04:46Right.
04:46You know, it's, it's so with the Dolphins having like this boom or bust area, like we
04:55know at their best what they've looked like, but they haven't looked like that in a while,
04:59even going back into last year with a lot of the same offensive roster.
05:02But now it's, and now it's time.
05:05Yeah.
05:06There's time, but we're just talking about the first three games.
05:08I got you.
05:09I got you.
05:10When that, that's, that's, I mean, one of the reasons why I bought a Pittsburgh and
05:13Baltimore is that, you know, why don't we feel that way about the Dolphins?
05:21Well, I'll tell you exactly why.
05:23And this is, this is the truth of it.
05:24Leroy, the two injury is bad.
05:28Obviously it was very scary and I wish two and nothing but the best, but the bigger
05:31indictment on the Dolphins was getting smoked by Buffalo the way they did.
05:36So for the outlook of their season, the Dolphins getting the snot kicked out of them on Thursday
05:40night football, the way they did with everything we put into that game.
05:44And it was such a one-sided pressure because Buffalo's like silly Dolphins.
05:50You know, they toy with it all.
05:51It literally looked like they were playing a preseason game.
05:55Yeah.
05:56Yeah.
05:56Which, which, which lens, you know, so the lens to my, my point, but it's, you know,
06:03the show.
06:04Yeah.
06:04So it's like, yeah, we could sit here and say, Hey, when Tua gets back, but when Tua
06:08gets back, they got to play, they got to go to Buffalo.
06:10What's the spread going to be on that game.
06:11And, and, and I think the biggest concern that I have is you can't like, we knew it
06:25was going to be a little inconsistent with the injuries on defense.
06:30Like who's running in, who's coming, how many plays is Jalen Phillips playing?
06:36You know, we, we knew that was going to take some time for people to come back.
06:41Okay.
06:41They, they haven't been bad, but the offensive line, you, you, you gotta have, if there's
06:49any place on a football team that you have to have consistency and I'm throwing out the
06:56quarterback on this.
06:59Most of the teams that have success have consistency on offensive line.
07:04Do you think they will start Patrick ball this week?
07:08Or do you think they're going to go with lamb?
07:09I'm assuming Toronto said, isn't out of the protocol.
07:12Uh, do you think that they'll go with lamb?
07:14Who's, uh, the, the veteran he's been there.
07:16He's solid.
07:20Or should you just go with your second round pick and get them going?
07:23Just because you're a veteran doesn't mean you're good.
07:31It just means that you're better than all the other backups.
07:35So I would say this, I think you have to get five healthy bodies.
07:42Try to get them comfortable in a position, whatever they can feel comfort at that position
07:50and have them work together.
07:52That that's it.
07:54And, and so you don't have to be the best offensive line as far as this guy does this,
08:01this guy's excellent, this guy, but you need to have some consistency in that you do things
08:07well together.
08:09And I think that's the most important part, uh, with an offensive line.
08:13So if you can get five guys together and you can get them a two or three week run
08:23with practices, with games, I think there'll be some improvement there.
08:28They're going to be the situations where a guy gets beat one-on-one.
08:31Okay.
08:32Those are going to happen regardless.
08:34But as far as consistency with that front, because a lot of times you watch with all
08:42the, the, the different guys, they were moving in and out.
08:45There was too much space.
08:47There was too many guys one-on-one.
08:50And that was the problem.
08:52Usually when you have a coherent offensive line, you see how they work together, their
08:55shoulder to shoulder, you see an arm, they help each other out.
08:59They, they work well together.
09:01When you have new guys out there, they're all thinking about, let me get my guy.
09:05And you actually put yourself on and off.