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00:00:00Hi Assalamualaikum, we meet again this week with a new episode with the same two faces.
00:00:19My name is Dina Nazir and this week's Borat Celebrity, I am very excited because she is a shy person.
00:00:28But at the same time, she is also a funny person, but sometimes when she is serious, I don't know.
00:00:32I will tell you her profile.
00:00:37She is an actress, she can sing, she can dance, she can be a director, she can be a judge.
00:00:44She can also be a comedian.
00:00:46She can be a comedian too.
00:00:48What is it that she can't do?
00:00:50We will find out soon.
00:00:52This week we have Adlin Ammar Ramli.
00:00:55Assalamualaikum, Abang.
00:00:56Assalamualaikum, Dina and?
00:00:58Fadli.
00:00:59Fadli.
00:01:00Assalamualaikum, everyone.
00:01:01How are you, Abang?
00:01:02I'm fine, Alhamdulillah.
00:01:03You look young and stylish.
00:01:04That's right.
00:01:05This is my hair before.
00:01:06That's right.
00:01:07Today you didn't do the same hair like this.
00:01:08It's long.
00:01:09A little to the side.
00:01:10If not, a little to the front too, Abang.
00:01:11It's easy, Abang.
00:01:12This is a forced fashion.
00:01:13A forced fashion.
00:01:14Fast, concise and self-explanatory.
00:01:16I see.
00:01:17That's why I made my hair like this.
00:01:19To be fast, concise.
00:01:20No problem, Abang.
00:01:21Last week he made his hair like this.
00:01:23Okay.
00:01:24Then Liana Jasmi said,
00:01:25Is this a hair that doesn't love his wife?
00:01:28Because it's too simple.
00:01:31You mean you cut it down?
00:01:33It's all down.
00:01:34It doesn't fit your face.
00:01:36It doesn't fit your face.
00:01:37That's why I have my make-up.
00:01:39It doesn't fit your face.
00:01:40If the face has a mark of 4 or 5,
00:01:44it can't carry this.
00:01:45This is 8 or 9, it can carry.
00:01:47Because it's open.
00:01:49It's brave.
00:01:50You don't fit.
00:01:51You don't fit.
00:01:52Maybe in the next 10 years,
00:01:54I'll be strong enough.
00:01:56You have to up your fashion first.
00:02:01Okay.
00:02:02We want to ask,
00:02:03we want to ask about your beginnings.
00:02:05Maybe there was a time when you were in a daze.
00:02:09But at the same time,
00:02:10when you feel like this industry is enough.
00:02:14We go up and down in the industry.
00:02:17What do you see in our industry?
00:02:19Let's start with the beginning.
00:02:20Okay.
00:02:21You're interested in the art industry.
00:02:24Is it because of your parents?
00:02:26It's blood.
00:02:27Or why?
00:02:29Or are you interested in it?
00:02:32Okay.
00:02:34I was born 8 months ago.
00:02:37I was born on 23rd May 1972.
00:02:41After I was born 8 months ago,
00:02:42my late father, A. R. Tompel, passed away.
00:02:45Okay.
00:02:47To put it simply, I don't have that space.
00:02:49I don't have much experience with A. R. Tompel.
00:02:54Okay.
00:02:55But my mother is Rumina Siddiq.
00:02:57Yes.
00:02:58My mother, throughout her life,
00:03:00she was in and out,
00:03:02following the flow.
00:03:04She acted in Pentas,
00:03:06she did shows,
00:03:07she acted in films,
00:03:08and then drama radio.
00:03:10Throughout her life,
00:03:11she was in there.
00:03:12She didn't run away from it.
00:03:13And then,
00:03:14when I was little,
00:03:16until after school.
00:03:19By after school, I mean SPM.
00:03:21Okay.
00:03:22I remember at SPM,
00:03:23I was 19 years old in 1989.
00:03:25Okay.
00:03:26I got a good result,
00:03:28to continue my studies to university,
00:03:31like everyone else.
00:03:32But I was reluctant to continue my studies.
00:03:38Because,
00:03:40when I was around 17 years old,
00:03:44before that,
00:03:45until I was 17 years old,
00:03:47I wasn't directly involved
00:03:51and participated in any activity.
00:03:54Arts?
00:03:55No.
00:03:56Okay.
00:03:58I remember,
00:03:59when I was 7 or 8 years old,
00:04:02it just hit me,
00:04:04that my father was A. R. Tompel.
00:04:07Yes.
00:04:08Do you understand?
00:04:09It's too late to remember.
00:04:10Yes, it's too late.
00:04:11We don't grow up in a normal,
00:04:16ideal family institution.
00:04:18Okay.
00:04:19My mother,
00:04:21throughout her life,
00:04:23until now,
00:04:24she's been through her 5th marriage.
00:04:27Yes, that's right.
00:04:28So, my mother is
00:04:32a black widow with reset legs.
00:04:36Right?
00:04:37Her legs are reset.
00:04:39The term is,
00:04:40and my mother knows this,
00:04:42this is the term that her children gave her.
00:04:44She got married,
00:04:45her husband passed away.
00:04:47Got married, passed away.
00:04:48Restart.
00:04:49What's that?
00:04:50Restart.
00:04:51That's her life journey.
00:04:52That's really rare.
00:04:53If you look at my mother's biography,
00:04:55it's really crazy.
00:04:56It's really,
00:04:57what is it?
00:04:58It's a franchise.
00:04:59When did it come out?
00:05:01So, we call my mother a black widow.
00:05:03Now, her 5th marriage.
00:05:05It's the same.
00:05:06Did Mila die first,
00:05:07or was it you?
00:05:11And she knows that.
00:05:12So, okay.
00:05:13Back to my situation.
00:05:15So, that answers the question,
00:05:17why did it come to my mind at the age of 78?
00:05:19Yes.
00:05:20Because it shows
00:05:22how remotely off-radar I am
00:05:25in that environment.
00:05:27Okay.
00:05:28Abang Badul,
00:05:29because Abang Badul,
00:05:32he's the son of the first wife of ER Tompel.
00:05:37My mother was 5,
00:05:38my father was 6.
00:05:39His wife.
00:05:40So, our journey was long.
00:05:42So, it was kind of chaotic.
00:05:45A lot, actually.
00:05:46A lot.
00:05:47It's like,
00:05:48your father is the son.
00:05:49Chaotic, scary.
00:05:51He's like that, you know.
00:05:53So, throughout his childhood,
00:05:56even in school,
00:05:57I was involved in school competitions.
00:06:04But it wasn't hardcore.
00:06:05It wasn't hardcore.
00:06:06It was because of my friend, Chaba.
00:06:07My friend, Chaba.
00:06:08So, I was involved.
00:06:09I sang a little.
00:06:10But I didn't take part at all.
00:06:13Until after SBM,
00:06:15when I was 17 years old,
00:06:17I guess it was time for me,
00:06:19as a teenager,
00:06:21to think about what I wanted to do
00:06:23after I finished school.
00:06:24Okay.
00:06:25I wanted to continue studying.
00:06:26I said,
00:06:27I didn't want to trouble my parents.
00:06:30And I didn't feel like
00:06:32paying the university fees.
00:06:35Because I didn't like studying.
00:06:36I understand.
00:06:37You know.
00:06:38Because I was streetwise.
00:06:40Because we grew up with our survival.
00:06:43Yes.
00:06:44What made us teachers
00:06:47and what inspired us
00:06:49is purely the environment.
00:06:51Friends.
00:06:52Seniors.
00:06:53Not parents, you know.
00:06:55So, we grew up that way.
00:06:57So, when I was 17 years old,
00:06:58we started to think,
00:07:00okay, what do I want to do now?
00:07:02And at that time,
00:07:04I really saw
00:07:07the growth of AR Tompel,
00:07:10Mak Mah,
00:07:11and all my ancestors' journeys
00:07:14in this field of art.
00:07:16Okay.
00:07:17So, when I saw that,
00:07:19at the age of 17,
00:07:20after SBM,
00:07:2118 years old,
00:07:22we really thought about
00:07:25my father married
00:07:27AR Tom Anwar.
00:07:29He was a musician.
00:07:30The second was AR Badul.
00:07:31The third was Amran.
00:07:33After that, he got married to Saloma,
00:07:34and got Armali.
00:07:35Another musician.
00:07:36And then,
00:07:37the one that people knew,
00:07:39the top one was Abang Badul.
00:07:40And then,
00:07:41the second tier
00:07:42fell to Amran.
00:07:45They were the first best buds,
00:07:46the top ones.
00:07:47The hardcore ones.
00:07:48The mainstream ones,
00:07:49they all stayed at the top.
00:07:50The second wife,
00:07:52the third wife,
00:07:54the fourth wife,
00:07:55the fifth wife,
00:07:56then met Mak Mah.
00:07:58The sixth wife,
00:08:00AR Tompel,
00:08:01who passed away in her body,
00:08:02that's when we knew
00:08:03the sixth day.
00:08:06That's why you cried.
00:08:09That was when,
00:08:10Adina,
00:08:11Adina,
00:08:12when I did
00:08:13Maharajah Lawak Megah,
00:08:14the first week,
00:08:15I did this joke.
00:08:16I did a stand-up,
00:08:17I did this joke.
00:08:18So, the sixth one.
00:08:19So, when we look at
00:08:20the really top ones,
00:08:22Abang Badul.
00:08:23Abang Badul,
00:08:24during his era,
00:08:25in the 80s and 90s,
00:08:26he was really popular.
00:08:28He was really popular.
00:08:29It was his time.
00:08:30But, we were young.
00:08:31We didn't know.
00:08:32Oh, that's my brother.
00:08:33Oh, Badul.
00:08:34He wasn't that handsome.
00:08:35That's how it was.
00:08:37So, when I look back,
00:08:39there's nothing that connects
00:08:41the legacy of our ancestors.
00:08:45When I look at
00:08:47my age,
00:08:48my age,
00:08:49when I was 20 years old,
00:08:52I found out that
00:08:54the first time I met
00:08:56my youngest brother,
00:08:58number 18.
00:08:59I was number 17.
00:09:00Okay.
00:09:01That's a long answer.
00:09:02Go on, go on.
00:09:03Actually, if you ask me one question,
00:09:04I can answer it in an hour.
00:09:05Go on, go on.
00:09:06Go on, go on.
00:09:07So, that's how I found out.
00:09:09So, when I look back,
00:09:11there's nothing.
00:09:12There's nothing at all.
00:09:14Before Mak Jah,
00:09:17my siblings,
00:09:18there were seven or eight girls.
00:09:21None of them were in the entertainment industry.
00:09:24They were all bankers, office workers.
00:09:26When I look at my youngest brother,
00:09:28he's not that talented.
00:09:29He's only 18 years old.
00:09:32He's almost as good as you, Dickie.
00:09:33Yes, he is.
00:09:34So, he's...
00:09:35Because his mother was from a different batch.
00:09:37Okay.
00:09:38My siblings,
00:09:39there were 17 of us.
00:09:41Our names,
00:09:42if it's a boy, it's A.
00:09:43Okay.
00:09:44If it's a girl, it's R.
00:09:45Okay.
00:09:46It's A-R.
00:09:47My father's name was Aman Ramli.
00:09:48A-R.
00:09:49If it's a boy, it's Azman, Amran, Armaya, Adlin.
00:09:52If it's a girl, it's Rostina, Rosmaya, Rosmiah.
00:09:55Okay.
00:09:56He's number 18.
00:09:58He's the last one.
00:09:59He was born,
00:10:00and my father passed away at that time.
00:10:01He was pregnant.
00:10:02Okay.
00:10:03What do you think his name is?
00:10:04Oh.
00:10:05If it's A...
00:10:06There's no A, no R.
00:10:07There's none?
00:10:08None.
00:10:09I'll tell you his name now.
00:10:11I want to see if you're proud or not.
00:10:13Okay.
00:10:14Dickie Sofian.
00:10:15Dickie Sofian?
00:10:16Yes.
00:10:17That's far.
00:10:18That's far.
00:10:19That's far.
00:10:20It's far.
00:10:21It's like breaking the tradition.
00:10:22When my father died at that time.
00:10:24But that was our favorite brother.
00:10:26The last one.
00:10:27The last one.
00:10:28The last one.
00:10:29He was fine, but that's it.
00:10:31He didn't have that talent.
00:10:32He didn't have that talent.
00:10:33So, I noticed that I was like,
00:10:38I'm a mother.
00:10:39Yes.
00:10:40My father, and I'm a man.
00:10:42I feel my DNA was like,
00:10:44It's bad.
00:10:45It's bad.
00:10:46So,
00:10:47Then, I decided that, okay, I will continue what my father did.
00:10:54When I was 17, that is why I was involved for the first time.
00:11:00I became a cultural artist.
00:11:01Jabatan Penerangan Malaysia, Pentarama, is still there.
00:11:04It's a cultural troupe.
00:11:05Okay.
00:11:06And that's how I became a cultural artist.
00:11:09So, if you ask me if I'm interested to participate, to be involved in the industry,
00:11:16what rejects me is not my interest.
00:11:18What rejects me is the responsibility to continue the legacy of my father.
00:11:25Yes.
00:11:26That's his answer.
00:11:29Sorry, it's a bit long.
00:11:31But, it's true.
00:11:32He's knowledgeable and educated.
00:11:36So, when you joined the cultural troupe, as a dancer?
00:11:41As a cultural artist.
00:11:43As a cultural artist, my job is to dance traditional, to play kompang, to act a bit.
00:11:53And then, I steal time to learn music, to learn notes.
00:11:56So, it's quite free.
00:11:57So, our job is to be a propagandist of the government through Jabatan Penerangan
00:12:05to send the government's message.
00:12:08We go to Ceruk-Ceruk Rantau, Kampung Bantal, Kampung Orang Asli.
00:12:13We go to all of them.
00:12:14In one month, roughly, we can say we're out of the station for two weeks.
00:12:19We perform.
00:12:21I've been there for four years, Rina.
00:12:23Four years.
00:12:24That's my exposure, training ground in live performance, performing arts.
00:12:31So, in those four years, we've danced traditional.
00:12:35I've choreographed.
00:12:36No, I'm not a choreographer.
00:12:38We're our own initiative.
00:12:40So, all around us, solid.
00:12:42Four years.
00:12:44I remember in 1994,
00:12:48that was the first batch of the Ministry of Culture, Arts and Heritage.
00:12:52At that time, with the National Academy of Arts.
00:12:56Now, ASUARA.
00:12:58So, I was the first batch.
00:13:02At that time, my batch, Namron, Dr. Roslyn Suboh, Zizi.
00:13:06All of them became humans.
00:13:10They became people.
00:13:12But they became doctors mostly.
00:13:14But they lost their talents.
00:13:16Again.
00:13:19I always want to position myself somewhere that has value.
00:13:24A little bit more.
00:13:27So, for two years, I was at ASUARA.
00:13:30I was at ASK at that time.
00:13:33I got my diploma in theatre.
00:13:35I got my diploma for four years.
00:13:37But I speed up.
00:13:38I graduated in two years.
00:13:40I graduated on my own.
00:13:42I didn't finish my studies.
00:13:46So, from there,
00:13:48after 1994-1995,
00:13:51for two years,
00:13:53I got exposure there.
00:13:56Why did I join?
00:13:57Because I wanted to understand
00:14:00what kind of species I am.
00:14:02To understand the terminology.
00:14:04To understand the terms.
00:14:05What kind of people I am.
00:14:07That's why I joined.
00:14:08And then, of course,
00:14:09during those two years,
00:14:11even the lecturers said,
00:14:15your place is not here.
00:14:17I was like that.
00:14:19You're too smart.
00:14:20No.
00:14:21It's not that I'm smart.
00:14:22I have my impulses.
00:14:25I have my passion.
00:14:27And I have...
00:14:28Because you have to remember,
00:14:29whether you're aware or not,
00:14:31when I entered this field,
00:14:33I moved with a very clear sense of responsibility.
00:14:38So, I'm not just entering to socialize
00:14:42in a very light way.
00:14:43No.
00:14:44I enter to...
00:14:46Not to conquer.
00:14:48But I enter with a lot of baggages behind me.
00:14:53The name of my late father,
00:14:55my mom, Abang Badul, and everything.
00:14:57And I know I'm the last breed to do
00:15:01all those things.
00:15:03So, with that,
00:15:04maybe I'm conscious or sometimes unconscious,
00:15:10that radar is always there.
00:15:13So, it's possible that people see me
00:15:18as a bit more serious tone
00:15:23compared to Abang Emran or Abang Badul.
00:15:27And I...
00:15:28One of the things that I know,
00:15:31the decision I made to be involved in this,
00:15:35is the same as the name that I try to carry.
00:15:39If Badul is AR Badul,
00:15:42Emran is carried by Emran Tompel.
00:15:45I carry Adeline Aman Ramli.
00:15:47Aman Ramli is the real name.
00:15:50So, hopefully with this name that I carry,
00:15:57people will know Tompel,
00:15:58people will know AR Badul,
00:16:00and AR Aman Ramli.
00:16:01So, I bring the total names.
00:16:05So, that is quite very...
00:16:07Responsible, right?
00:16:08Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:09It's heavy.
00:16:10You know, right?
00:16:11Stressful, right?
00:16:12No.
00:16:14You don't look stressed.
00:16:17Because I'm stressed too,
00:16:18when I look at you.
00:16:19But actually, Dina,
00:16:21with whatever things that we go through,
00:16:23ups and downs in the industry,
00:16:25there are certain times,
00:16:26of course, for six to seven years,
00:16:28you shut off,
00:16:29you do something else.
00:16:31But we know it's a part of the journey,
00:16:33it's an endurance.
00:16:35This is a lifetime commitment.
00:16:37You're not unintentionally involved in this,
00:16:40and I know,
00:16:41I want to end my life with...
00:16:45If I can't create my own legacy,
00:16:49it's good enough for me to extend the legacy
00:16:52of my mother and my late father.
00:16:55That's my role in my life.
00:16:59I'm starting to get angry
00:17:00when you say things like this.
00:17:02Because when you say end of life,
00:17:03it's like you're dying.
00:17:05It's not like that.
00:17:06But you took on that responsibility from the start,
00:17:09and that's still your motivation now
00:17:11to continue the legacy?
00:17:13Yes.
00:17:14I think that's something that...
00:17:18When you...
00:17:21When you make a vow with yourself
00:17:24and your destiny,
00:17:26do you know,
00:17:27when I was...
00:17:28I may have told you this,
00:17:30I don't know where,
00:17:31but it's normal for your content
00:17:34to record my important events.
00:17:39When ASK was established,
00:17:42it was initially in Aswara,
00:17:46but it was an old building,
00:17:48the KBN building,
00:17:49the National Cultural Complex.
00:17:52I was there for a year,
00:17:54and then we moved to Metik,
00:17:57near Saloma.
00:17:58At one time,
00:17:59our campus was there.
00:18:03When we were in Jalan Ampang,
00:18:05Ampang Cemetery was in front of it.
00:18:09So,
00:18:10my father was always the pioneer,
00:18:13even in Jalan Ampang,
00:18:14my father was the pioneer,
00:18:15and P Ramlee was second.
00:18:18When the Malay Film Production in Singapore was shut down,
00:18:22in 1969,
00:18:24MFP,
00:18:25Merdeka Studio was already...
00:18:27Merdeka Studio was in Finas Lama,
00:18:32Merdeka Studio.
00:18:33My father was also the first batch
00:18:35to direct and do,
00:18:36and P Ramlee joined MFP later.
00:18:41Even in Ampang Cemetery,
00:18:42the pioneer was Erton Pell.
00:18:45Erton Pell was buried,
00:18:47and a few months later,
00:18:49P Ramlee parked next to it.
00:18:52And then,
00:18:54Saloma.
00:18:57So, I went to the cemetery,
00:19:00of course,
00:19:01it was like a cemetery,
00:19:02but it wasn't for Eid.
00:19:03Suddenly,
00:19:04I felt like I was called.
00:19:06After a few months,
00:19:07or maybe the first year of studying,
00:19:09and I really felt like
00:19:11I wanted to take,
00:19:12I wanted to take,
00:19:13I wanted to take a stroll,
00:19:14for example,
00:19:15if people go to the cemetery.
00:19:16Right?
00:19:17Not wrong, right?
00:19:18This,
00:19:19this means,
00:19:20this is a sign of life and death, right?
00:19:22I went to the cemetery,
00:19:24I,
00:19:25I read Yasin one round,
00:19:27I said,
00:19:28I shared it,
00:19:29I gave it to him.
00:19:32Easy to be carried, right?
00:19:34Us,
00:19:35Us and our Lord,
00:19:36we're not making fun,
00:19:38but we communicate,
00:19:39we communicate.
00:19:41I gave it to him,
00:19:42I said,
00:19:43I read the prayers,
00:19:45and everything,
00:19:46and then,
00:19:47facing the cemetery,
00:19:49on my knee,
00:19:50okay?
00:19:51on my knee.
00:19:53I put my hand on the sky,
00:19:55then hit the ribbon.
00:19:57to summarize can I put your monologue with my God on that specific moment
00:20:12you have given all the advantages and strengths to these two people, especially A.I. Tompel
00:20:24and I put myself now to connect with what was done by the previous ones
00:20:31so if I ask him, it doesn't have to mean he wants to think about me as a father
00:20:41but if there is 1% or 10% out of what you have given to him
00:20:49then you give it to me and I will connect with what they have done
00:20:54at that time I was 18 or 19 years old
00:20:58so we can look at it as something funny and funny
00:21:05but that thing is like hijab, kabul, and also the placement of kalbu
00:21:13when the kalbu of the heart cannot be deceived
00:21:15because it is already stuck there
00:21:17so no matter what, you can give me a tissue
00:21:21because he and his father are not close
00:21:26so he is quick to accept it
00:21:31so what I mean is
00:21:35he is the big one, his father is not there
00:21:40so without realizing it, this thing is always with us
00:21:46in our life we have ups and downs
00:21:49we are personally ups and downs
00:21:51the life trend, the success trend also has its ups and downs
00:21:55and the industry also has its ups and downs
00:21:58and when we place ourselves as the community in the industry
00:22:11we have to have the power and wisdom to evaluate and see the ups and downs
00:22:20if it is an uptrend, it is easy for us to hide and forget
00:22:27that is the temptation, that is the sensation in our industry
00:22:30but when we are on the down circle
00:22:33there are a lot of people who are lost and don't know how to hold on to their struggles
00:22:41until the time changes a little, the factors change
00:22:45other people also change a little
00:22:47trend in trend
00:22:48at the same time, while on the down circle
00:22:51we are still continuously developing and finding our upscaling and everything
00:22:57so there are a lot of people who don't know with that trick
00:23:01and Alhamdulillah, since I went through the journey
00:23:07placing myself as a legacy for the family
00:23:11up until now, of course we have on and off
00:23:15and on and off, Alhamdulillah, I am not rich, I am not happy, I am not successful
00:23:20but my sustenance is, I can determine what I want to do
00:23:25and what I don't want to do
00:23:27when I want to do it, and when I don't want to do it
00:23:30that is what I feel, that is luxury
00:23:33that is what Allah has given me
00:23:37I will stop there
00:23:39because I see your work is so easy
00:23:42you can just throw it away and relax
00:23:45it's a story
00:23:46but Abang, did your mother tell you about this?
00:23:50did she say anything?
00:23:51did she share any advice?
00:23:53for you to be able to pray, ask for anything in the grave
00:23:56she is like this
00:23:57my mother is also like me
00:24:00we can't give advice to each other
00:24:05if my mother wants to give advice to me, she will tell me to relax
00:24:09it's the same, if I want to give advice to my mother
00:24:12when I want to give advice to my mother, I will tell her to relax
00:24:16do you remember when we had Mak Mah?
00:24:18we gave advice to Mak Mah to become a celebrity
00:24:20she was so raucous
00:24:22so the story is, Mak Mah and I
00:24:24actually, Mak and I
00:24:26the story is like
00:24:28left and right, it's a mixed feeling
00:24:31it's the same
00:24:32but the version is, she is a veteran
00:24:36and she is a female diva
00:24:39I am a male diva
00:24:42but it's like
00:24:43don't make me like my mother
00:24:45my mother also said
00:24:46if I become like you, I can't be like you
00:24:48that's how it is
00:24:50it's her rough language
00:24:51she doesn't want to be like her
00:24:53it's the same
00:24:54it's the same
00:24:55the problem is, it's really the same
00:24:58yes
00:24:59the bottom step comes out on its own
00:25:00right?
00:25:01you said you had a time in 5-6 years
00:25:03you decided to run for a while
00:25:06why?
00:25:07and what did you do?
00:25:09okay, at that time
00:25:10I think
00:25:11you calculate it mathematically
00:25:13now it's 2024
00:25:14okay
00:25:153 years ago
00:25:16maybe you just realized
00:25:18I entered again
00:25:19involved in films and everything
00:25:21you rejected
00:25:22maybe it's 2021
00:25:26you rejected
00:25:277 years ago
00:25:29I was off the radar
00:25:30maybe it's 2021 or 2020
00:25:34and pulled until 2019
00:25:38you calculate it mathematically
00:25:402012
00:25:422013-2014
00:25:45yes, that's how it is
00:25:48that's my problem
00:25:49you calculate it
00:25:50you guys will make my biography
00:25:52okay
00:25:53I realized that
00:25:54it's the same
00:25:55people collect pictures
00:25:56I said
00:25:57it's okay, I can't keep it
00:25:58because other people will compile it for me
00:26:01you realize
00:26:02you realize
00:26:03you realize
00:26:05people will make a story about me
00:26:06later they will
00:26:07they will compile it
00:26:09they will look for it
00:26:10I don't keep it
00:26:12calculate
00:26:13it's the same
00:26:14when we do a job
00:26:15make a film
00:26:16I've done it
00:26:17many films that
00:26:19we don't go to the cinema
00:26:20we don't watch
00:26:21we take it as a job
00:26:22that's it
00:26:23and we are not proud
00:26:24of our hard work
00:26:26right?
00:26:27with far-sighted people
00:26:28it's okay
00:26:29so it's okay
00:26:30it's okay
00:26:31I don't want to go to the cinema
00:26:34it's embarrassing to promote
00:26:36but it's not like
00:26:37Baib Penyalong
00:26:38that's it
00:26:40because Baib Penyalong
00:26:41is my treat
00:26:43for the last 2-3 films
00:26:44that I've done
00:26:47like
00:26:48Malbad
00:26:49or Coast Guard
00:26:51Adeline is still alive
00:26:53because we don't want people to think
00:26:54that we're dead
00:26:55because she's still alive
00:26:57but after 2-3 years
00:26:58I've done
00:26:596-8 films
00:27:00and then
00:27:02Meruat is back
00:27:03Meruat
00:27:06it's the same
00:27:07everywhere
00:27:09it's the same
00:27:10that's why
00:27:12what do you do when you're gone?
00:27:16usually
00:27:17I'll be frank
00:27:19I go to Mecca
00:27:22don't take it seriously
00:27:23I don't go
00:27:24I'm stressed
00:27:26I go to Mecca for Umrah
00:27:27but I
00:27:28go to Mecca
00:27:29to find myself
00:27:31to learn
00:27:32no, I don't learn
00:27:33I go to Mecca
00:27:34to hang out in my friend's garden
00:27:35not to learn
00:27:36Islam
00:27:38or Tasawwuf
00:27:41just relax
00:27:42chill
00:27:43I do what I like
00:27:44because I think
00:27:45the industry
00:27:46and the world
00:27:47is fun
00:27:51I do
00:27:52I do networking
00:27:53I do my own business
00:27:55but our hearts
00:27:56are always
00:27:57attached to
00:27:58the things
00:27:59in our industry
00:28:00because
00:28:01again
00:28:02when we're gone
00:28:03we know
00:28:04our work is not done
00:28:05we stop
00:28:06for a long time
00:28:07not for a short time
00:28:08we stop for a long time
00:28:09because at that time
00:28:10if
00:28:14I'll share with you
00:28:16before
00:28:17before I
00:28:18pull the handbrake
00:28:19and just
00:28:20leave everything
00:28:21and do something else
00:28:23at that time
00:28:24me and my company
00:28:25I've produced
00:28:26content dramas
00:28:28for hundreds of hours
00:28:30so we've produced
00:28:31for TV
00:28:32for
00:28:33from ideation
00:28:34to
00:28:35scripting
00:28:36until
00:28:37everything
00:28:38we've done it
00:28:39we've done it for 2-3 years
00:28:40so
00:28:41we've done it
00:28:42we've been through
00:28:43we know
00:28:45it's a good business
00:28:47but you're serving
00:28:48the drama
00:28:50the drama
00:28:52trend
00:28:53TV station
00:28:54certain things
00:28:55you can't
00:28:56compromise
00:28:57because you feel
00:28:58this is like work
00:28:59I hate work
00:29:01I love to create
00:29:02I want to create
00:29:04but when you repeat
00:29:05yourself for
00:29:082-3 years
00:29:09productive
00:29:10and then you feel like
00:29:12I want to cash out
00:29:13I feel
00:29:14this is not
00:29:15what I want to do
00:29:16my final
00:29:17so
00:29:18I need to enter
00:29:19into
00:29:20movie making
00:29:21and when
00:29:22movie banking
00:29:23we're not happy
00:29:24we're not happy
00:29:25with dealing
00:29:27company or
00:29:28big studio
00:29:29give commission
00:29:31this is
00:29:32your fee
00:29:33this is writing fee
00:29:35so
00:29:36I'm not happy
00:29:37with that
00:29:38the price tag
00:29:39and commissioning
00:29:41I'm not happy
00:29:42with the
00:29:43IP
00:29:44dealing
00:29:45with the
00:29:47conventional
00:29:48arrangement
00:29:49I'm an IP guy
00:29:50I'm a creative person
00:29:51I think about
00:29:52royalty
00:29:54art
00:29:55you know
00:29:56I don't want to be
00:29:58riding
00:29:59by all this
00:30:00capitalism
00:30:03style of
00:30:04business
00:30:05which is not normal
00:30:06we can't get out
00:30:07of that
00:30:08until now
00:30:09we're still stuck
00:30:12in that way
00:30:13in a way
00:30:14yes
00:30:15how can the platform
00:30:16share the IP
00:30:17and get
00:30:18get
00:30:19our creators
00:30:20so they
00:30:21can
00:30:22do some
00:30:23little monetization
00:30:24for their
00:30:25survival
00:30:26not just
00:30:27purely commissioning
00:30:28and you
00:30:29throw in your
00:30:30archive of library
00:30:31thousand
00:30:32million
00:30:33hours of content
00:30:34which
00:30:35not been
00:30:36syndicated
00:30:37for
00:30:38all these
00:30:39things
00:30:40I'm not
00:30:41happy with that
00:30:42but we know
00:30:43we don't want
00:30:44because
00:30:45if I
00:30:46keep
00:30:47doing that
00:30:48it will
00:30:49damage my
00:30:50mental and
00:30:51my soul
00:30:52and the problem
00:30:53is when they
00:30:54start to
00:30:55damaging
00:30:56and
00:30:57affecting
00:30:58how you
00:30:59think
00:31:00your perception
00:31:01about the
00:31:02industry
00:31:03and then
00:31:04your emotions
00:31:05you tend to
00:31:06become
00:31:07an upset
00:31:08person
00:31:09who suddenly
00:31:10you will
00:31:11become
00:31:12barking and
00:31:13bitter
00:31:14you know
00:31:15bitter
00:31:16and then
00:31:17you start to
00:31:18bash
00:31:19your own
00:31:20ego
00:31:21and then
00:31:22before
00:31:23you reach that
00:31:24level
00:31:25you just
00:31:26think
00:31:27I don't
00:31:28know to
00:31:29play this
00:31:30game
00:31:31I don't
00:31:32want to
00:31:33play this
00:31:34game
00:31:35so
00:31:36I
00:31:37back off
00:31:38and why
00:31:39I enter
00:31:40back in
00:31:41the last
00:31:423 years
00:31:43because
00:31:44well
00:31:45I think
00:31:46we have
00:31:47an uptrend
00:31:48in terms
00:31:49of premium
00:31:50content
00:31:51that
00:31:52makes
00:31:53creative
00:31:54content
00:31:55more interesting
00:31:56more challenging
00:31:57more out of the
00:31:58box
00:31:59not just
00:32:00a typical
00:32:01content
00:32:02so
00:32:03that's
00:32:04the thing
00:32:05and it's
00:32:06about time
00:32:07I think
00:32:08in my
00:32:0952 years
00:32:10reaching
00:32:1150s
00:32:12at that time
00:32:13I think
00:32:14this is my
00:32:15final push
00:32:16maybe I
00:32:17will have
00:32:1815 years
00:32:19so
00:32:20wise
00:32:21enough
00:32:22in terms
00:32:23of
00:32:24networking
00:32:25mature
00:32:26and then
00:32:27we can
00:32:28handle
00:32:29not just
00:32:30a creative
00:32:31person
00:32:32strategically
00:32:33we know
00:32:34how to
00:32:35approach
00:32:36we understand
00:32:37the mechanism
00:32:38of business
00:32:39better
00:32:40understand
00:32:41the platform
00:32:42better
00:32:43so
00:32:44that's what
00:32:45makes me
00:32:46so
00:32:47proud
00:32:48to be
00:32:49a part
00:32:50of
00:32:51this
00:32:52project
00:32:53because
00:32:54I'm
00:32:55participating
00:32:56my fellow
00:32:57friends
00:32:58Avlin Shawky
00:32:59as producer
00:33:00and creator
00:33:01at that time
00:33:02because
00:33:03the last
00:33:04Papadom
00:33:05I remember
00:33:06there was a
00:33:07gap
00:33:087-8 years
00:33:09not directing
00:33:10so
00:33:11me and
00:33:12Avlin Shawky
00:33:13we
00:33:14have
00:33:15a
00:33:16deep
00:33:17relationship
00:33:18not on
00:33:19personal level
00:33:20but
00:33:21I think
00:33:22how much
00:33:23the
00:33:24respect
00:33:25on my
00:33:26aesthetic
00:33:27value
00:33:28that's how
00:33:29much I
00:33:30look at him
00:33:31so
00:33:32we have
00:33:33that
00:33:34understanding
00:33:35so
00:33:36on certain
00:33:37certain
00:33:38projects
00:33:39when he
00:33:40get me
00:33:41to
00:33:42involve
00:33:43and
00:33:44support him
00:33:45not much
00:33:46but
00:33:47we feel
00:33:48okay
00:33:49I have to
00:33:50support you
00:33:51so that is
00:33:52the reason
00:33:53why
00:33:54I was
00:33:55off
00:33:56Radar
00:33:577 years
00:33:58back
00:33:59and why
00:34:00I'm here
00:34:01again
00:34:02so
00:34:03your character
00:34:04Kangaroo
00:34:05Kangaroo?
00:34:06I forgot
00:34:07Kangaroo
00:34:08Kangaroo
00:34:09Kangaroo
00:34:10Kangaroo
00:34:11Kangaroo
00:34:12Kangaroo
00:34:13Kangaroo
00:34:14Kangaroo
00:34:15Kangaroo
00:34:16Kangaroo
00:34:17Kangaroo
00:34:18Kangaroo
00:34:19Kangaroo
00:34:20Kangaroo
00:34:21Kangaroo
00:34:22Kangaroo
00:34:23Kangaroo
00:34:24Kangaroo
00:34:25Kangaroo
00:34:26Kangaroo
00:34:27Kangaroo
00:34:28Kangaroo
00:34:29Kangaroo
00:34:30Kangaroo
00:34:31Kangaroo
00:34:32Kangaroo
00:34:33Kangaroo
00:34:34Kangaroo
00:34:35Kangaroo
00:34:36Kangaroo
00:34:37Kangaroo
00:34:38Kangaroo
00:34:39Kangaroo
00:34:40Kangaroo
00:34:41Kangaroo
00:34:42Kangaroo
00:34:43That was the first time
00:34:44I saw Adelina Maramli
00:34:45live
00:34:46because at that time
00:34:47I was still a student
00:34:48at UITM
00:34:49theatre student
00:34:50so I saw that
00:34:51like
00:34:52oh
00:34:53who is this
00:34:54oh
00:34:55her mannerism
00:34:56so
00:34:57again
00:34:58back to musical
00:34:59oh okay
00:35:00so
00:35:01do you know
00:35:02this story
00:35:03first things first
00:35:04do you know
00:35:05how good
00:35:06Along is in musical?
00:35:07Of course
00:35:08he is
00:35:09if you follow
00:35:10me and
00:35:12yes
00:35:13no
00:35:14yes
00:35:15what is that?
00:35:16because we haven't seen it yet
00:35:17like you said
00:35:18we haven't seen it yet
00:35:19but
00:35:20of course
00:35:21yes
00:35:22I have
00:35:23one solo song
00:35:24and two duet songs
00:35:25with Afisya King
00:35:26but
00:35:27that is during the making
00:35:28okay
00:35:29but
00:35:30the final output
00:35:31I'm not sure how
00:35:32you know
00:35:33alright
00:35:34have you ever
00:35:35faced problems
00:35:36with your co-workers
00:35:37for example
00:35:38as an actor
00:35:39other actors
00:35:40or
00:35:41after that
00:35:42what did you do
00:35:43or
00:35:44did you face problems
00:35:45yes
00:35:46have you ever
00:35:47as an artist
00:35:48I'm also
00:35:49feeling this
00:35:50do you feel
00:35:51the same
00:35:52with me?
00:35:53no
00:35:54he
00:35:55because
00:35:56I always
00:35:57when I
00:35:58enter a room
00:35:59I will
00:36:00try to
00:36:01explore the room
00:36:02exploring is not
00:36:03food
00:36:04for my benefit
00:36:05no
00:36:06I
00:36:07I
00:36:08I don't
00:36:09have a problem
00:36:10I don't have a problem
00:36:11when
00:36:12when
00:36:13when it's not good
00:36:14it's not good
00:36:15there are stupid directors
00:36:16there are stupid writers
00:36:17there are
00:36:18but
00:36:19when you're
00:36:20when you're involved
00:36:21in the project
00:36:22you know
00:36:23you know
00:36:24sometimes
00:36:25other actors
00:36:26they
00:36:27they
00:36:28they
00:36:29have shortcomings
00:36:30everyone has shortcomings
00:36:31but
00:36:32when
00:36:33you have to
00:36:34approach the work
00:36:35because
00:36:36you're also
00:36:37involved in that
00:36:38you have to
00:36:39be in it
00:36:40you have to
00:36:41do your best
00:36:42I don't think
00:36:43it's a problem
00:36:44I think
00:36:45it's a challenge
00:36:46it's a
00:36:47it's
00:36:48a challenge
00:36:49that we have to
00:36:50overcome
00:36:51basically
00:36:52it's like that
00:36:53and
00:36:54if
00:36:55you know
00:36:56me
00:36:57if
00:36:58if you don't know me
00:36:59I don't care
00:37:00but I
00:37:01know myself
00:37:02from my own thoughts
00:37:03and also
00:37:04from
00:37:05when I
00:37:06analyze
00:37:07the front
00:37:08or the back
00:37:09I try to analyze
00:37:10maybe I can say
00:37:11that I'm the type of person
00:37:12that
00:37:13I'm not afraid
00:37:14to debate
00:37:15and forward
00:37:16my ideas
00:37:17or thoughts
00:37:18or my analysis
00:37:19my comments
00:37:20I don't
00:37:21I don't have
00:37:22I don't have
00:37:23that filtration
00:37:24as long as
00:37:25we're sitting
00:37:26in the professionalism
00:37:27space
00:37:28we're working
00:37:29we're dealing
00:37:30about this work
00:37:31and how to
00:37:32make this product
00:37:33as best
00:37:34possible
00:37:35so
00:37:36you all
00:37:37have to
00:37:38open up
00:37:39with me
00:37:40and if you don't
00:37:41open up
00:37:42I will
00:37:43flush out
00:37:44as critical
00:37:45as possible
00:37:46so with
00:37:47that
00:37:48he
00:37:49he
00:37:50he
00:37:51he
00:37:52he
00:37:53he
00:37:54he
00:37:55he
00:37:56he
00:37:57he
00:37:58he
00:37:59he
00:38:00he
00:38:01he
00:38:02he
00:38:03he
00:38:04he
00:38:05he
00:38:06he
00:38:07he
00:38:08he
00:38:09he
00:38:10he
00:38:11he
00:38:12he
00:38:13he
00:38:14he
00:38:15he
00:38:16he
00:38:17he
00:38:18he
00:38:19he
00:38:20he
00:38:21he
00:38:22he
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00:46:52Yes, I'm working on it.
00:46:54Officially, we haven't announced it yet.
00:46:57Because when it's announced, it should sound like a co-production between two countries.
00:47:10The ideal project composition should be landing on that title.
00:47:17And now we are in the midst of reaching there, soon enough.
00:47:24And we will announce that officially.
00:47:28Yes, it's a biopic movie of our late Tan Sri P. Ramlee.
00:47:38Not just him.
00:47:40But his legacy and the whole legacy of cinema, music, and Malay culture.
00:47:51That happened during Singapore and Malaya was one.
00:47:56Under the National Government of Malaya.
00:47:5950s to 60s.
00:48:04That is the ultimate era that we were in.
00:48:09Gemilang at that time.
00:48:11So, celebrating P. Ramlee as the pioneer of everybody.
00:48:16Because in his era, he was surrounded by great artists.
00:48:22A solid ecosystem.
00:48:25Not from the government, but from the private sector.
00:48:29Rivals of KT Keris and Show Brothers.
00:48:33Very competitive.
00:48:34With a very strong vision.
00:48:37Of course, there was a little imbalance in the system.
00:48:42Where they produced more than the welfare and charity of the workers.
00:48:47Which is the reality.
00:48:49It's something that needs to be balanced.
00:48:53So that it can give an image.
00:48:57And we can post-mortem it.
00:48:59And see it as our mirror.
00:49:01We look at the composition of our industry.
00:49:04Our ecosystem.
00:49:05Is it the same as before or not?
00:49:09We will bring all the results from that era.
00:49:13What's good, what's bad.
00:49:14This should become our industry case.
00:49:18And P. Ramlee...
00:49:20Other than rejecting him as a famous artist...
00:49:28Maybe people see him as a singer, an actor.
00:49:33But more than that, he's a cultural and artistic fighter.
00:49:39Who has a personal and national vision.
00:49:46And we hope that people will see P. Ramlee...
00:49:52With a different value.
00:49:54Without ignoring the excitement of having him as an entertainer.
00:49:57As a composer of his songs.
00:50:02And also...
00:50:04Without lifting up the community around him.
00:50:08The artists who are close to him.
00:50:10Like Jamil Sulung, Yasudhar Maji.
00:50:13Like all these other artists...
00:50:18Who were able to unite under the MFP umbrella.
00:50:25So that they can elevate the quality and quantity at that time.
00:50:31So when we talk about the time in Masan...
00:50:34We can measure it from the amount of productivity that was born.
00:50:38And also the amount of regional achievements.
00:50:42In terms of aesthetics.
00:50:45So that thing...
00:50:48If we talk about our industry now...
00:50:51We have to look at it.
00:50:54Once that happened, what happened?
00:50:56What did he do?
00:50:57What system that works?
00:50:59What things that the ministry should learn, understand, study?
00:51:06Maybe we have academicians who...
00:51:09Some of the papers that were made at the university...
00:51:13Were not applied in the planning for the industry.
00:51:20And also what happened in the industry and ecosystem music...
00:51:25At that time.
00:51:27How they fell and rose.
00:51:29How all these small companies...
00:51:31Were walled up by the bigger international brands.
00:51:34All these royalties, IP matters, right?
00:51:36Until now, right?
00:51:38So that thing...
00:51:39This film should...
00:51:41While it rejects the sensation of the great performer, entertainer...
00:51:47The art of the Malay world, the Nusantara world...
00:51:51Rejecting that...
00:51:52It should...
00:51:53In its background...
00:51:55It should say, analyze and expose...
00:52:01A documentary experience...
00:52:03To understand how all this happened.
00:52:06And how we can learn from that, right?
00:52:08What is special about Baik Pihalong that you want to sell to them?
00:52:12Just look at it.
00:52:15There are three things that I can highlight.
00:52:18How that thing is special to me.
00:52:20That I have added value to myself.
00:52:23Maybe not to the audience.
00:52:25Only to myself.
00:52:26And maybe what I have can be valuable to the audience.
00:52:30First, again, like I said earlier...
00:52:34Afrin Shauki, after a few years of not working...
00:52:37This film should have been released before Harimau Melayu.
00:52:42It should have.
00:52:44But unfortunately, Harimau Melayu was released first.
00:52:49And of course, we hope that Baik Pihalong...
00:52:53Will be 10, 20 times more successful than Harimau Melayu.
00:52:58Because...
00:53:00This is Afrin's thing.
00:53:05This is his thing.
00:53:06This is his territory.
00:53:08It suits Afrin.
00:53:11Let's compare.
00:53:12Harimau Melayu...
00:53:13History.
00:53:14Yes.
00:53:15It's slightly different.
00:53:16Different appetite.
00:53:18So, this is Afrin's thing.
00:53:19That's number one.
00:53:21And I also think...
00:53:23Of course, I want Afrin to do good in this movie.
00:53:26Because we know that we can rely on him...
00:53:30As an independent producer, director, and writer.
00:53:36He's a creator.
00:53:38He has the power.
00:53:41Just like Mamat Khalid.
00:53:43He can come up with an idea, write it, and direct it.
00:53:46But maybe Mamat Khalid can't produce it.
00:53:49But Afrin has these three things.
00:53:51He can create ideas.
00:53:54He can direct and execute that.
00:53:56And he can produce it.
00:53:57So, we should encourage people like Afrin to keep working.
00:54:01But of course, there are things that he can improve.
00:54:04From time to time.
00:54:05In terms of his aesthetics.
00:54:07Or in terms of his production and distribution.
00:54:11There's always a point to improve.
00:54:14So, I hope that Afrin Shawky will...
00:54:20Motivated.
00:54:21Motivated.
00:54:22When this movie gets a response...
00:54:26And gets a motivational quote.
00:54:30I hope so.
00:54:31And I like it when it happens.
00:54:34And I want it to happen.
00:54:36That's why I'm in Baik Penjual Along.
00:54:39And we welcome him to do it.
00:54:43So, that's number one.
00:54:44Number two, of course.
00:54:46As we can see in the promo.
00:54:48There's nothing else.
00:54:51There's a little bit.
00:54:55But I think that...
00:55:03So, I think that...
00:55:05It's something that needs to be promoted.
00:55:09Because if we look at the couples...
00:55:13Or the pair of comedians.
00:55:17Their characters.
00:55:19At one time, they were the tsunami in the industry.
00:55:25And seeing the two of them together again.
00:55:32I think that's a bonus.
00:55:34You should check out and celebrate them.
00:55:37Celebrate the comedy industry in Malaysia.
00:55:41Celebrate Afrin Shawky doing the thing that he's good at.
00:55:46And then celebrate our cinema box office.
00:55:50Hopefully, Baik Penjual Along...
00:55:54...will add value to the total cinema of Malay cinema.
00:56:00Yes.
00:56:01Complimenting to the Mak Kilau.
00:56:03Complimenting to the Sherif.
00:56:05And all.
00:56:06This is all good momentum.
00:56:09I hope so.
00:56:12And I think it's special and unique.
00:56:14And not all films have it.
00:56:16If we look at the past few years...
00:56:18...we've had a lot of uniform films.
00:56:20All the security.
00:56:21Things that we can't save.
00:56:24You're in one. You're in Malbat.
00:56:26You're in Malbat.
00:56:27I know.
00:56:28Participating.
00:56:29In Malbat, Walk on Terra.
00:56:31I'm in all of them.
00:56:33Malbat and Walk on Terra.
00:56:35My name is Rahman.
00:56:36Both of them.
00:56:37Both producers don't know.
00:56:38I didn't tell them.
00:56:40Because if I told them...
00:56:41...it would be one drop.
00:56:43So, this one we'll entertain.
00:56:45This one we'll entertain.
00:56:46Both.
00:56:47This one is the chief commander of the army.
00:56:50This one is the chief commander of the anti-terrorism unit.
00:56:52Yes.
00:56:53Do they have the same name?
00:56:55That's how it is.
00:56:56Luckily, one of them didn't die.
00:56:58If both of them died, I'm in trouble.
00:57:00I tried to fight.
00:57:01Did my character die?
00:57:02No, no.
00:57:03It's like dead.
00:57:04No, the second part.
00:57:05The second part.
00:57:06If you do the second part.
00:57:08If you don't do the second part...
00:57:09...in the end, I'll die.
00:57:13But it looks like I'll die.
00:57:15I didn't do the first part.
00:57:19Okay.
00:57:20That's the second part.
00:57:22The third part is because...
00:57:24...we rarely see a film...
00:57:27...with a musical genre.
00:57:30Here.
00:57:31As far as I remember, before this...
00:57:33...we had...
00:57:35...KRU's.
00:57:36Majika.
00:57:37Majika.
00:57:39Majika.
00:57:41And then...
00:57:42I don't know. In between?
00:57:43What? Majika?
00:57:44I can't think of it now.
00:57:46It means it's not mainstream.
00:57:48Maybe it's not popular.
00:57:50Because we don't listen to it.
00:57:51It doesn't have an impact.
00:57:53So, and then...
00:57:54...Bahik Penyalong.
00:57:56And we also know that...
00:57:57...Aflin comes from a musical background.
00:57:59He's a musical.
00:58:00Yes.
00:58:01He's the R.A.P. and the singer.
00:58:02Yes.
00:58:03So, it's the same with me.
00:58:05My musical sense is very strong.
00:58:09When Aflin...
00:58:11...invited me...
00:58:13...invited me...
00:58:14...with him.
00:58:16I forgot to tell my girlfriend.
00:58:18I forgot.
00:58:19So, he invited me.
00:58:20And then, he wanted to support me.
00:58:22He said he wanted to do a musical.
00:58:23I said, okay.
00:58:24Musical. Okay, nice.
00:58:25How many songs do I have?
00:58:27Wow.
00:58:28And Aflin is also...
00:58:29...a fan of my works.
00:58:32Puteri Gunung Ledang Musical.
00:58:34Piramni Musical.
00:58:35He's a fan.
00:58:36He knows my music.
00:58:38So, he gave me things that I said, okay.
00:58:40And then, I have...
00:58:42...a duet song with him.
00:58:43And then, I have my solo song.
00:58:45Love.
00:58:46And then...
00:58:47...I like it.
00:58:48It's like a ting-a-ling.
00:58:50Ting-a-ling.
00:58:51I like it.
00:58:52So, I had the chance to do that.
00:58:54For example, Kontot.
00:58:55I like it.
00:58:57I like it.
00:58:59And in the end, it's very serious.
00:59:02So, that's...
00:59:03...between...
00:59:04Now, it's a musical genre.
00:59:05And...
00:59:08...when we did it...
00:59:11...during the making...
00:59:12...it's very rich.
00:59:14It's very rich.
00:59:16We have a lot of good songs.
00:59:17We have...
00:59:18...very entertaining and very...
00:59:20...very pumping beats...
00:59:22...and musicality.
00:59:24But, that's the end.
00:59:26I'm not sure about the final edit...
00:59:28...for the film version.
00:59:31I hope...
00:59:32...the whole gist...
00:59:34...and the potential that we sense...
00:59:36...during the making...
00:59:37...will be consistently captured...
00:59:39...and displayed...
00:59:41...in the film.
00:59:42So, those are the 3 things...
00:59:44...if you ask me.
00:59:45It's not a scheme...
00:59:47...to promote...
00:59:48...the film.
00:59:50Because I'm here to promote that.
00:59:53That.
00:59:54But, the reality is...
00:59:56...that's the thing if you ask me.
00:59:57That's it.
00:59:583.
00:59:59The special thing is...
01:00:00...Along...
01:00:01...12 September is out, Dina.
01:00:02You can watch it now.
01:00:04Powered by your words.
01:00:05Among those involved...
01:00:07...of course, there's Juzan.
01:00:08There's Dato' Aflin himself.
01:00:10There's Adelina Marami.
01:00:11There's Yana Jasmi.
01:00:12There's Mia Sara.
01:00:13There's also Arwah.
01:00:14There's King Wah.
01:00:15There's King Wah too.
01:00:16There's King Wah too.
01:00:17That's great.
01:00:18It's like we're almost done.
01:00:19We're almost done.
01:00:20We're almost done.
01:00:21Praise be to God.
01:00:23Bro.
01:00:24But, this is one of the easiest jobs.
01:00:25Really?
01:00:27Why, bro?
01:00:28I feel like...
01:00:29Relaxed, right?
01:00:30In the screentime, it's like...
01:00:31You're a storyteller, bro.
01:00:32Your questions are like...
01:00:33...tweet-tweet.
01:00:34Just a little bit, bro.
01:00:35You're laughing.
01:00:36You're laughing.
01:00:37Bro, if you were laughing just now...
01:00:39...I wouldn't know what was really funny.
01:00:41What about the kids, bro?
01:00:42Are you going to...
01:00:44...support or let them...
01:00:45Oh, yes.
01:00:46I wanted to ask about the legacy.
01:00:47You said...
01:00:48...you started...
01:00:49...on the name of legacy.
01:00:51What about your legacy?
01:00:54Will you...
01:00:55...allow the kids to continue...
01:00:57...or...
01:00:58...do you feel like...
01:00:59No.
01:01:00...you want to train other people...
01:01:02...even though you don't have your own flesh and blood?
01:01:04No.
01:01:05We can't order this.
01:01:07We have to do it.
01:01:08Just like...
01:01:09...my late father.
01:01:12Maybe 8 months ago.
01:01:13He was like...
01:01:14You can do it.
01:01:15You're the best.
01:01:16No.
01:01:17He didn't say, you can do it.
01:01:18I don't think so.
01:01:20I don't think so.
01:01:21Maybe he tried to do it on...
01:01:25...Badul, Amran.
01:01:27He did it once.
01:01:28When he was in 7th or 18th grade, he did it.
01:01:30You're the best.
01:01:32I think that's how it is.
01:01:33That's how it is.
01:01:34We...
01:01:35...in our flesh and blood...
01:01:39...are like that.
01:01:40We think a little bit.
01:01:41We see a little bit.
01:01:42We have...
01:01:43...a little research.
01:01:44It means we want to know.
01:01:46We take it seriously.
01:01:47Right?
01:01:48So, that's how...
01:01:50...he got it.
01:01:51So, if you ask about...
01:01:54...my legacy...
01:01:55...actually, it's not about me.
01:01:57Okay.
01:01:58It's about...
01:01:59...the people after me.
01:02:01And it's not necessarily...
01:02:03...that it comes from...
01:02:05...our flesh and blood.
01:02:07For example...
01:02:08...let's talk about Piramli now.
01:02:10We know that at one time...
01:02:11...there was Piramli rice.
01:02:12But it was already extinct.
01:02:13Rice also means...
01:02:15...with...
01:02:16...about...
01:02:17...maybe 5-10%...
01:02:19...of the whole capacity of...
01:02:21...Piramli.
01:02:22Because...
01:02:23...talent and...
01:02:24...not...
01:02:26...not everything must be...
01:02:28...inherited.
01:02:29It's inherited.
01:02:30It's not necessarily that.
01:02:32That's his uniqueness...
01:02:34...on how...
01:02:35...God arranged his ups and downs.
01:02:37Right?
01:02:38But...
01:02:39...it should be...
01:02:40...it should be...
01:02:41...he can.
01:02:42But maybe...
01:02:43...well, Piramli was probably...
01:02:44...a bit chaotic back then.
01:02:45Marriage, divorce and all.
01:02:46He didn't have enough rice.
01:02:47It's the same.
01:02:49So, that thing...
01:02:50...like...
01:02:51...he had Najwa.
01:02:52Najwa was also involved...
01:02:53...in those things.
01:02:54Which is good.
01:02:55We're not surprised.
01:02:56But...
01:02:57...how much and how far...
01:02:59...they can refuse...
01:03:00...or want those things...
01:03:01...we're not sure.
01:03:02Sometimes, the scenario changes.
01:03:04The scenario changes.
01:03:05The situation changes.
01:03:06Different personalities, right?
01:03:08Your mother got married to this.
01:03:09Your mother is like this.
01:03:10She's liquid.
01:03:11She's liquid.
01:03:12She's like that, right?
01:03:13She's liquid.
01:03:14She's liquid.
01:03:15Not everyone can get that party.
01:03:16So, it's the same with my situation.
01:03:19And...
01:03:20...it doesn't have to be my children and my heirs.
01:03:22For example, now...
01:03:23...about Piramlee's story...
01:03:25...he has this...
01:03:27...he didn't...
01:03:28...not other people did it.
01:03:29I did it.
01:03:30So, why did I...
01:03:31...make Piramlee?
01:03:33That's one of my homage as...
01:03:35...as an artist...
01:03:36...who really adores...
01:03:37...and we know...
01:03:38...hey, this is your contribution.
01:03:39And then...
01:03:40...after 50 years...
01:03:41...you passed away...
01:03:42...we need to repackage...
01:03:43...re-positioning...
01:03:45...re-arrange...
01:03:46...re-promote.
01:03:48So, we have a cycle...
01:03:49...we need to do.
01:03:51And I did it...
01:03:52...in the sense that...
01:03:53...I...
01:03:54...I entered Piramlee's world...
01:03:55...I met my father in there.
01:03:56And of course...
01:03:57...my father's...
01:03:59...biography...
01:04:00...it's a masterpiece.
01:04:02If...
01:04:03...Piramlee's biopic...
01:04:04...it's like my...
01:04:05...degree...
01:04:06...imagine...
01:04:07...my master thesis...
01:04:08...it's like that.
01:04:10You know?
01:04:11So...
01:04:12...maybe...
01:04:13...what I did...
01:04:14...now...
01:04:15...and which is...
01:04:16...I don't know...
01:04:17...how I ended up...
01:04:19...I just need...
01:04:20...need...
01:04:21...need...
01:04:22...need...
01:04:23...well, when we're involved...
01:04:24...in works involving...
01:04:25...art...
01:04:26...our work...
01:04:27...appreciation...
01:04:28...that's important.
01:04:30Appreciation doesn't have to be money.
01:04:32Appreciation is sometimes...
01:04:33...appreciation in the form that...
01:04:35...yes, it has made me happy.
01:04:37As simple as that.
01:04:38That's what I see.
01:04:40Yes.
01:04:41And then...
01:04:42...of course, we...
01:04:43...we want that thing...
01:04:46...not just for ourselves...
01:04:49...as overall...
01:04:50...we can represent...
01:04:52...the art community and the workers...
01:04:54...so that we are...
01:04:55...seen with a perspective that...
01:04:57...not...
01:04:59...just fill the void...
01:05:01...but we have...
01:05:02...a very important role and function...
01:05:04...that cannot be done by other sectors, right?
01:05:06That is why, like...
01:05:08...P. Ramlee, he is also our...
01:05:10...icon of our national unity...
01:05:12...and he...
01:05:14...in the P. Ramlee project that we did...
01:05:16...involving...
01:05:17...two countries...
01:05:19...Malaysia and Singapore...
01:05:21...his magnitude reached...
01:05:23...beyond Brunei and Indonesia.
01:05:26So that is the thing that...
01:05:28...we have to see...
01:05:29...that's how when...
01:05:31...art culture...
01:05:32...through his artist...
01:05:34...or in...
01:05:35...creative product...
01:05:37...can give all this...
01:05:39...value that cannot be done...
01:05:41...by other people.
01:05:42Even politicians may not have...
01:05:44...this kind of reach.
01:05:46So P. Ramlee is another...
01:05:48...great story of our nation.
01:05:50And we should...
01:05:52...promote and...
01:05:53...talk about it...
01:05:54...again and again and again.
01:05:56We should not...
01:05:57...let this history...
01:05:58...be forgotten...
01:05:59...in the fold...
01:06:00...until...
01:06:01...easily...
01:06:02...if we don't raise our hero...
01:06:04...believe me, other nations will...
01:06:05...raise their heroes as...
01:06:06...our heroes.
01:06:07So we will never...
01:06:09...allow that to happen.
01:06:11Okay?
01:06:12Okay, bro.
01:06:13I wish you good luck...
01:06:14...success...
01:06:15...and also...
01:06:16...with your project...
01:06:17...Biopic...
01:06:18...with P. Ramlee.
01:06:19God willing.
01:06:20Stay healthy, bro.
01:06:21Thank you for today.
01:06:22See you again.
01:06:23Assalamualaikum.
01:06:24Bye-bye.