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00:05Hey guys, what's up?
00:08Coming to you from Texas, Texas not home tonight, but we're still gonna talk about this on episode of happily
00:15I'm sorry before the 90 days and there's a special surprise tonight
00:21So I'm really excited about that. But yeah, we're gonna get into this. Hopefully my Wi-Fi here is gonna hold up
00:28Fingers crossed hopefully how
00:34Hey, LaJolla, I'm Billy. Yeah, she Oh Judith is here. Hey, she is
00:43How's everybody doing on this Monday Valerie's
00:49Surprise
00:51Look who's back?
00:53I'm so glad to have you back. We've missed you
00:57It's been weird, right? Like I feel like we've been the team for so long. It's just weird. Like I love Gina
01:04I love everybody but the team right? It's we're back together. We're almost back together. We got to get um, DeeDee back
01:12Soon as possible. She's got personal stuff going on. But as soon as possible. I really want to get DeeDee back and
01:20I'm just so glad to have you back
01:21So I want to get your thoughts because you've been gone for a while
01:24So I know that there's a lot of stuff that you would like to say
01:28Especially about this season, right? I I have so much to say
01:34So I wanted to talk about well
01:36I want to get into the gonorrhea conversation because I feel like this was something that I wanted to hear your opinion on because
01:43Lauren said tonight that having gonorrhea to him is like having food poisoning, you know
01:48It's not serious. You just take a pill or you get a shot and you move on with your life
01:54You know you move on with your day
01:55so I want to get your idea or
01:57Your opinion of someone who because obviously this is not his first time with gonorrhea because he yeah
02:03He vividly explains us, you know the process of to get rid of it
02:06You know how to get rid of something if you've had it before right, right?
02:10right
02:11he
02:12the amount of it I have
02:17This guy is so gross I just he's almost Kyle Gordy gross like it's that bad Wow
02:24Kyle Gordy, I know that's a very very high level to live up to for gross, right?
02:32so much and faith is such a sweetheart and she's
02:35literally like he's can't be
02:39his non-monogamy his
02:42Gonorrhea his homelessness. This guy is the biggest gaslighting yuck that I just I can't
02:50I can't I'm trying to feel my skin off today
02:54What he said tonight really irritated me because he was like you had to have known
03:00That for six months. I had to be sleeping with other people. Why do people assume that they don't tell you something?
03:06but you're supposed to just know because we're gonna get into this also with Brian because
03:12She was just supposed to know right and he so we're gonna get into that too, right?
03:16But Lauren was just like what you just assumed I wasn't having sex with anyone else for six months and she's like, yes
03:23That's usually what a relationship is
03:26And if it's not you would tell the person that that's not your idea of a relationship
03:32And I feel like she I feel like faith is smart. Like she's been picking up on the red flags
03:36I feel like she's definitely not naive, right? I feel like she's young and she's inexperienced, but she's not stupid
03:43Which I'm so happy right because she's she told them tonight
03:46She was like I would like space and I was like actually I want to add to that
03:50I want you to have distance. Yeah, not just space like maybe a whole continent
03:54Yes between her and Lauren right like a she I don't like when
03:57people drop information on people and then like
04:00Force themselves back on them to try to force the person to move on faster than they're ready
04:05If she needs to take the whole trip to process this she should be allowed right?
04:10This girl is gonna be so broken. She's never had a boyfriend
04:14He's her first boyfriend and this is what she gets like this broker
04:19I don't this is gonna take her a very long time to come back from
04:22But also not only did he lie about cheating and all the lies he's done when he first told her he had gonorrhea
04:29It's cuz he had the sex
04:32One time with the one girl from Thailand
04:35Then he said he had the sex with the same girl from Thailand twice
04:40But then he said he's been sleeping with people all along. First of all, who's sleeping with this man?
04:49I'm gonna say he lives in Vegas, you know
04:53Every time I hear stories about Vegas people are doing debaucherous things, right?
04:58so I'm just assume hold on my sister lives in Vegas and
05:02No way
05:03My sister is the most upstanding citizen beautiful human being you would ever meet
05:09There is no way she is comfortably living in the same city as him. There's no way well
05:17He's trying to live in the Philippines because it's cheaper
05:21He actually he was on the Twitter space the other week with me and Shibudi
05:26and he said that his actual dream was to move to the Philippines and live like
05:32in someone's backyard and like a shed and be like a
05:35Illegal immigrant or whatever. He was like that was what he was thinking
05:39So I don't even know if he even cares about hey
05:43No
05:43I'm under the impression and that faith is just a way for him to get into the country and then he's gonna do whatever the
05:49Hell he wants once he gets there, right? Yeah, he had $46 to his name when he gets there
05:55Realizes he can spend $46, which would be in turn like 2,000 here
05:59So he can live anywhere he wants there and live like a king in his eyes
06:05He's using her so bad. It makes me sick and she is gonna take a very long time to come back from this
06:14Well, it's gonna put her relationship
06:19Situation in a standstill because you know the the worst your relationship is it's always tell people this I was like your last
06:25Relationship defines your new relationship because your level of trust your level of
06:31Compassion sympathy all of that is gauged by how bad the last person in your life was and I think for her because with
06:38This being her first serious
06:40Boyfriend, she might just go back to the friends would benefit the situation that she's been in
06:45You know, it's it's empty. You don't get to have somebody to come home to every night
06:49Yeah, so I get why she's looking to have that serious monogamous relationship
06:54And then what's even more scary because when people tell me all the time, I'm like, oh, I like being single
06:58I like to you know sleep with whoever I want. I was like
07:01STDs are real though, you know, and I think this is a good like realization like yeah, that is a fun lifestyle
07:07It's cool. You have your your freedom and you can do whatever you want, but you could also come home with an unwanted
07:14Side effect of that lifestyle. So what?
07:17What happens in Vegas doesn't always stay and know sometimes it follows you all the way to the Philippines, right all the way to the
07:24Philippines literally
07:26That's it's crazy. And then the fact that he's just like this is nothing
07:30I don't want it to ruin our day. And I was like you have gonorrhea, sir
07:35What do you mean?
07:36You don't want this to ruin your day
07:37You should their day should already be ruined if I got a phone call and someone tells me that I have done gonorrhea
07:42My whole month is ruined. Okay
07:47Right, like I don't even know what I would do from that moment. He was just like well
07:51We're gonna go out to the beach, you know, like it was nothing to him
07:54He's like, yeah, I figured cuz there was all this weird discharge and I'm like, so that wasn't alarming
07:59Yeah, you cuz that would be
08:02alarming to me if there's discharge or something coming out of something that shouldn't or
08:07If it's not blood if there's something coming out of your body and it's not the color that it should be that should worry you
08:13And he waited until he got a phone call. He didn't even investigate
08:16He's like, yeah, I figured something was wrong. You figured literally
08:21Why also didn't what why did you go to the lake or the beach or anywhere?
08:27Instead of going straight to the doctor. That is where you should have gone straight
08:32He infected the water cuz that was the first thing I said, I was like look how beautiful this this little
08:38Small little dam was it was really pretty. It was really beautiful. And I was like, well now the water is infected, right?
08:44So like because once he gets in the water, you know
08:46I don't know how that works
08:48But I'm pretty sure if you get in a pool or you in a small water
08:51Area with someone who has something like that. You could catch it that way too. Well in a pool. Oh, there's chlorine
08:56That's gonna kill it. But you're like in the free water and it's surrounded by people
09:01Yeah
09:04He's so gross his smug-ass smile through it all the only time I saw him not smile was when she says I need time
09:12He's like, okay. Oh, so you caught that too
09:15So when they were in the van and she was like yelling and well not yelling
09:20But like showing her frustration with her his lies and you know him not being honest. He was grinning
09:26Yeah, I was like that bothered me a little bit because you can see that she's hurt. It's not that she's upset
09:31She's hurt because you made it seem like y'all were in a monogamous relationship
09:35For six months and then you sprung it on her
09:37The only reason why you sprung it on her is because you have an STD and you can't have sex with her
09:42So now you have to tell her and then now you're like laughing. I don't want to say that but like grinning
09:47Yeah at the way that she reacted and I was like see I don't know if that's like an emotionless
09:52Reaction like is he an emotionless person? Does he just not care about other people's feeling is so self-absorbed and only gives a shit about himself
10:00like he
10:02He gives me the ick. He is Kyle Gordy status of ick
10:06Hmm I can see that. Okay, so
10:12Yeah, that name is stricken it's like the the Ed name you don't like to even speak it into existence
10:19That's just so in Jordan. We saw this really extravagant wedding, right? Like I can't even say anything negative
10:26It was very impressive, right?
10:29I have to say is
10:31Adnan
10:32He he planned it, right? Yeah, was anybody else's
10:37Surprised to see his surprised reaction to everything as she was
10:43He walks in he's like, oh my god, it's beautiful
10:47Well, no shit
10:49That's true. And if you plant that he would know what to expect. I mean, I don't think a 22 year old man
10:56Playing that it was too extravagant. It had too many
11:00moments the the detail was really
11:03Intricate right? Like I don't think that he planned it
11:06I think maybe he paid for it or maybe his family paid for it and then he's just taking credit for it
11:12But I don't see him as the type to put that much attention into detail, right?
11:17Like he's like he paid for it with the money Tiger Lily sent him over the course of time
11:23So wait, do you think that Tiger Lily paid for her own wedding?
11:26No
11:26I think that Tiger Lily sent him money over the course of their relationship and he has used that for the wedding to say
11:34He paid for it
11:35Really? That's so he says that he's a model, right? Do you think that he has?
11:42money at all because I think we had this conversation earlier in the season right because we were like
11:46She's gonna lose a lot of money because she was married to a very very rich man and he was giving her
11:51Spousal support so I was wondering cuz she you know when she marries Adnan the spousal support is gonna end
11:57Does he have the money to maintain that lifestyle?
12:00Do you think that he has more money than we're giving him credit for or you think that he's broken?
12:04I'm honestly after seeing the wedding today. I was kind of like maybe the guy does have some money
12:10But then I thought about it and I was like, there's no way he was too surprised by everything
12:15He's the one that decided about the second dress and all of that. She's
12:20You know, she literally is flying by the seat of her pants
12:23well, it seems like a very Muslim way to have your culture pushed on me seems like a very Muslim way to
12:31Well, no shit. He's Muslim. What do you want from the guy? I think
12:36For me it bothers me that she pretends because it's clearly an act, right?
12:42Well, I'm gonna ask you do you think that Tiger Lily is stupid because I don't believe that she's as stupid as she acts
12:49But like as stupid as she acts or do you think that she
12:55Stupider a word. Well, yeah, remember miss Karen miss Karen made that word when things were getting stupider
13:01Yeah, so it it bothers me that she pretends. Well, maybe she's not pretending
13:06Like you said, maybe she really doesn't know because she's like, oh, well the standards of his religion
13:11It's like he has rules for me and not for him and I'm like so you've never like googled Muslim
13:16Or you've never watched a TV show that had to do with the Muslim religion or marriage or relations
13:22I was like even like a deaf and blind person would know more about the Muslim religion
13:27Okay, you're leading on like it's impossible that you know nothing about them
13:32But you flew all the way around the world to marry a Muslim and didn't even think let me just Google
13:37Right. I'm not even asking her to take a college course
13:40I'm just saying like just google it and get a gist of what you're doing
13:44Right, like was okay. For instance say you're going on vacation. You're booking stuff. You're gonna Google the weather
13:50You're gonna Google things around the resort. You're not gonna just show up right people don't do I mean
13:56I hope people don't do that. I don't do that
13:59I Google stuff just so I know what I'm getting into so the idea that she wants us to believe that she
14:04Met a Muslim man on the internet
14:07Never asked him one single question about what was expected of her in his religion or if he was gonna have exposition
14:14Or what is religion entailed flew all the way there married him?
14:17And then it's completely surprised at all of the restrictions that are placed on her
14:22Even though she's not a Muslim marrying a Muslim kind of just makes you a Muslim, right?
14:26Like you don't converting is not as important as you think when you marry a Muslim. You're just a Muslim, right?
14:32Like that's just kind of how they look at it
14:34You're going to be held responsible to all of the rules of that religion where you're whether you're a part of it or not
14:39so I
14:40Want to believe that she has more than one brain cell. I just want to believe that
14:47Let me let me confirm why she doesn't I love you so much
14:52That like even if he's a serial killer
14:56That's fine as long as he's not killing me
14:59Yeah, I heard that that's and that was the brain cell and it's fried that was
15:06Yeah, you're right that was the stupidest thing I'm sorry
15:14Well, you would probably turn them in right because what are the odds that
15:18What are the odds that you won't be the next victim, right?
15:22You might be saying if you would have because if it if they've been out there killing random people
15:27How do you know you're not next right like and it's like oh, well, he loves me most of the
15:33Situations where I watch snapped. Okay. I think it's an awesome show
15:36I don't think it's awesome what's happening, but most of the people that are killed are killed by someone that said that they love them
15:42Okay, so that is not a good reason to be like, oh, well, they love me so they can do it
15:48No, you have to be very very aware of and have you ever noticed that most serial killers don't have wives
15:56Yeah, I'm wondering it's if it's because they killed them right? Like I don't know
16:00I don't know
16:01I wanted to believe that she was pretending to be like a dumb Kardashian this whole time, but you might be right
16:07She might actually be
16:09This ditzy
16:12Okay, there is no way she's gonna be
16:17Married to this guy in this golden birdcage as she puts it who?
16:24showers her with everything she could ever dream of but is
16:28abusive or controlling
16:30So, oh she spends four years getting out
16:34gets fat alimony checks has two children and
16:38Says I can't wait to marry some guy. I don't know and hope he's not a serial killer in another
16:45Country without bringing my children or any of my family and I'm also not allowed to have friends
16:51So I have to bring my esthetician and my hairdresser
16:54Nobody
16:57No, you're right
16:59No one
17:00Because and if she didn't bring her esthetician and hairdresser, she may have never been seen again
17:06Yeah, right
17:07Like you go to these random countries and meet random people and that might just be the last we see of you as like
17:12An intact person right like that might be it and I don't know what would possess
17:17Okay, so Laura says do you think that he may want to go to the US?
17:20He's never said so far that he wants to go to the US but he is a model and
17:26He wants to be an actor. So I'm gonna say that that's probably part of this
17:31I don't write what wants to go to us. I think she wants to stay where he is
17:36Yeah, and I think he wants just her to move there with just her money leave her kids behind leave her ex behind leave her
17:43troubles behind
17:44Just move here you're my wife now, so you can't just go back to the US
17:51Because I will never know if you're alone in a room with a man. There might be a man
17:56There might be a man at the TSA Airport that has to frisk me. You don't know. Those are random checks
18:02I see people get frisked at the airport all the time. If it's a man, he's frisking her what happens now
18:09You divorcing me wait, right? I mean a lot of a lot of hairdressers are men
18:16I've actually found women have said that they prefer
18:20Men had just which is crazy to me because I was like wait
18:22You would think you would trust a woman more because women have the hair
18:25The type of hair and they're like no men do a better job
18:29And I've heard that over and over so the idea that he doesn't want her to interact with men and clearly she has a hairdresser
18:36Of 20 years, that's a man. So it goes and I've asked so many different women. They're like, oh, yeah
18:41I've had women hairdressers and men hairdressers men do a better job and I'm like, yeah, how is that right?
18:47Like it's it's confusing but it's interesting because as a Muslim wife. She's supposed to only interact with other women and
18:55Even when those women want to go out they have to go out together
18:58Like she's not even technically supposed to go out alone
19:01Like when she jumped out of the car in the preview tonight
19:04He was like that's not a good thing to do and to walk away from your husband alone and it's true
19:08We learned that with Laura and Aladin and Brittany and as on you know
19:12I'm supposed to be walking down the street without their husband next to you. Can't shake another man's hand
19:18You can't give another man a hug
19:20Well, it's funny
19:22Because he can shake other women's hands. And again, she she's acting surprised
19:27I want to believe that she's not but she because that was why she jumped out of the truck
19:32She was he shook a woman's hand and she's like, well the rules don't apply to him. And I'm like, yeah, we've been
19:38We've watched this story before tiger Lily
19:41They're like this is not that this is not the first second third fourth or fifth time that American woman found out that they don't
19:47Like being a Muslim wife like it's crazy to me that you didn't do one ounce of back research
19:54on
19:55Marrying a person who's part of a religion because it's like she's like he doesn't want me to convert you don't have to he's still
20:00Gonna hold you responsible to every single restriction that that entails his religion because she did she I think she thought of it as
20:08Well, since I'm not gonna be actually a Muslim
20:11I don't have I can respect it, but I don't have to be a part of it and I think she's hella
20:15Yeah, because it no part of a Muslim of Muslim once and it's weird because again, I've said this too
20:22I don't understand why they always pick the freest most independent
20:28Free-thinking woman that they can find and then try to turn her into a Muslim. That's like the biggest
20:35That's like the biggest
20:37Oxy more on for me, right?
20:39Like it's like you pick the woman who cuz you know
20:42There's people like Shekinah you could probably talk Shekinah into becoming but you could talk her into anything
20:46All right, Sarper can literally talk her into anything
20:49Lily looks like Shekinah Darcy and Natalie all had a baby together
20:55She yeah, I can see that
21:00It's all the levels of crazy
21:02Put into one little body
21:05It it's it's their love child
21:08Well, oh, it's crazy because Darcy and Stacey right like we know that they're they're out there, especially Darcy
21:14But I do think that Darcy has more than one brain cell
21:17Because she has said things that have made sense before she does stupid. Yes, but she has said things that have made sense
21:24Tiger Lily has never said anything that makes sense. I agree completely. So it's just really good
21:29I've refused to believe that there are people in this world that are that dumb, right? I just read
21:36Google is free
21:38School is free. You can get scholarships. You got their information is just being thrown down your throat. There's no reason why
21:45You should ever be this dumb on TV. I mean just period you shouldn't be this dumb ever but especially on TV
21:53You put yourself. I mean, I I haven't even taken a time to read read it on her, but I can only imagine. Oh
22:01I can't wait. I can't wait. I want to hear all the craziness and I've been
22:06I've been wondering if she's back here because I've been looking at her page and I've been like trying to figure things out
22:12She's pretty um
22:14Secretive. Yeah about it, right? I got a GM today because apparently I'm she was an
22:20Influencer she had 800,000 followers when she joined the show and scrubbed her whole page. I did my deep diving
22:27You know that yes, she did. She had a lot of like 700,000, but she wasn't verified which was weird
22:34Right that caught me a strange and but she did she scrubs her page which meant wants me to raise an eyebrow
22:40So I'm like, well, why do you want to delete everything?
22:42Because you know if you've already are an influencer people have already watched your stuff hundreds of thousands of times
22:47So deleting it makes me question. Well, what were you doing?
22:53Right, it's it's just really strange and I
22:57Don't know. I'm just I'm wondering what the situation is
23:01I was I was getting sharper and she kind of vibes and stuff because there's no way
23:06Right, cuz even instead well, no, I don't think she kind has ever said anything smart before. No, no
23:12But Darcy like I've seen Darcy and she's said things in between dry that made sense, right like I've know that
23:20when Darcy says something smart
23:23Darcy then says something that cancels that out right, right
23:26She'll be like analyzing the situation and she'll like no I shouldn't do that and then right away do it
23:32Literally, it's like but you know that there's a reasoning in there. Yes. She can reason she just is bad at it
23:38I don't think that Tiger Lily can reason I don't think that she has that ability. She's just not there. Yeah
23:45Okay, so Gina Gina you said something that I agree. Why are we getting these influencers and fake people on the show?
23:52I'm so tired of the influencers. Like I like Renee and shitty this season cuz they're so real
23:58everything about this
24:00Can't make sense. It's like it can't be fake cuz it's crazy
24:04Stop it
24:07Renee and Chitty are real
24:09Yes, do you think that this chicken? Do you think that this chicken lady is on TV acting this way and acting?
24:16Do you think that she's not weird?
24:26But she is definitely crazy though like you
24:30Crazy okay. So you agree that she's a wack job, right? Like she literally I mean, okay
24:36So maybe I don't mean real maybe I just mean
24:40Drama to the point where it wasn't written by a writer
24:45She planned this whole thing out. She really they were together for X amount of years via Internet
24:54She wanted to come on the show. She absolutely wanted to come on the show
24:58He didn't have a cell phone he didn't have a way to communicate she he didn't even have any social media
25:04She contacted the sister
25:06Told the sister I need to get in contact with him
25:11Because I want to go on this show and we're both gonna make money. So the sister
25:17Sets her up to talk to him on social media
25:22They talk on social media
25:24She presents this idea of going on the show one of the stipulations of going on the show is he has to have a phone
25:32So she's right. It's him a phone
25:35Then they start their communication that TLC can log and that is how the story was born
25:42So are they together? No, were they they weren't even together
25:47All for the show
25:51Built the beam she was like at this point. I don't even give a shit about my NDA. Here is what happened. Well, that's
26:00Disappointing. That's very disappointing
26:07She gives me Jamie and Chris Chris vibes
26:11Yeah, I get that I get that too I do and I thought that the way that how erratic and strange
26:17She was that it had to be real right? Cuz I was like no one acts like this for real
26:22It has to be real. No one would pretend to be a crazy person who talks to chickens
26:27But also eats chickens like I was like, it's just so crazy to me that it can't be fake, right?
26:32But I guess it is I mean all fake and I I as soon as his sister posted all that shit
26:39Hold on so I went back and rewatched them because I was trying to pick up on all the little things and his sister is not
26:45wrong
26:47Well, no, yeah, I
26:50Mean, okay
26:51So I want to talk about Niles real quick because now I was got to Ghana and he's meeting Matilda who thinks that they're getting
26:57Married on this trip, but they're not and I also I think I said this last week with Gina
27:02I was worried that Niles was gonna be traveling alone
27:05Because he's um, he has um his issues with autism and noises sounds on different types of situations situations
27:13He's not used to those all can be a trigger for him. So I found out tonight
27:16We all found out tonight that his family is not supportive. That's why he's going by himself. They don't want him doing this
27:22Yeah, and oh, did you also see there's a story that went out?
27:27I think star chasm posted it that he sued the city that he works for
27:32For discrimination or wrongful termination or something
27:35There was like this lawsuit and I read the the information in the lawsuit. They were like physical threats
27:42And everything. I'm I have a message going out to someone
27:46I wanted to know what the outcome was because I know these type of things can take long
27:49This was like in 2020 2021. So I don't know if it was still pending or if he won
27:54Does it make a difference to you if he won a whole bunch of money?
27:58I don't give two shits. The only thing I give a shit about is that we protect Niles at all costs. I love this man
28:05With my whole heart. I think he's a gem
28:08I hope i'm not wrong, but I love him
28:12I absolutely love him. The only reason I hope he didn't get a bunch of money is because she said he's sending her money
28:20Yeah, that pisses me off because she's sending her money
28:23She said he's sending her money
28:25Yeah, that pisses me off because she is
28:30She's bad news
28:31Bad. Oh, so that that was my next question. I wanted to get your opinion on matilda
28:37Because we found out that she's kind of the provider for the family
28:41And they sell plantains and she said that they're not doing very well
28:45So I was like I wanted to get your opinion
28:47Do you think so do you think he's sending her money like regularly like on a regular basis?
28:52The way she was acting tonight he sends her a lot of money get yourself a girlfriend. No, i'm not sharing it
28:58Can't wait to go to the up the u.s. There's no clubs here. This is boring
29:03I can't wait to be with my american boyfriend all the shit. She said everything that came out of her mouth
29:08I was like i'm I am ready to fly there right now and block this
29:13Even though it happened a year ago. I need to fly there and block this
29:17But do you think that she's taking advantage of him 100
29:21Of it. Oh, so you do so you think that it's probably easier for her
29:26to manipulate him because
29:28you know when someone
29:30comes out of their shell like
29:32Niles and loves someone because he you know, I watched that one show um love on the spectrum, right?
29:37So we kind of got an idea of how difficult a regular maintaining a regular relationship can be with people
29:44So do you think it's easy for her to manipulate him because he's so invested
29:48because he
29:49He's when when someone on the spectrum loves someone they're literally in love with that person
29:53They would do anything for that person and they don't open up to people in that way
29:57So I worried that she knows this like she's learned that no like she could threaten and say
30:04Oh, well, if you don't do this if you don't send me this
30:07I'll block you or I won't talk to you anymore. And I think that he'll feel
30:11Cornered and he would have to do it and i'm wondering if he's sending her money because he wants to
30:16Or if he's sending her money because he doesn't want to lose her
30:19That's what's crossing my mind. I think both. I think he thinks
30:23That this is real love
30:26He's got to wait for his family's approval
30:28And hopefully they don't ever approve but in the meantime, he's gonna send her money to keep her happy
30:35And then he's gonna go meet her and hopefully hope that it's real love
30:40I'm just I want to put this man in a bubble and protect him
30:45yeah, me too, I just
30:47It's hard for me when I see I think someone said they call them vulnerable
30:52And I think when you're in his position
30:54you know you are vulnerable because when
30:58the way that certain
31:00People react and can read a situation when you're on the spectrum
31:03You can't always read the situation the way everyone else can so people can get over on you
31:08They can take advantage of you and you will you won't it would take you if you see it
31:12Three four or five times longer than someone who wasn't on the spectrum to pick up
31:16Yeah, they're taking advantage of you and I just worry
31:19Because I think what really caught me as weird was she wanted them to get married so fast
31:24And I was like y'all haven't met and he's sending you money
31:26He's coming to you for the first time and you want to get married and I was like, that's strange. Y'all aren't even engaged. Nope
31:33Right like that is crazy
31:36The green card process is gonna go faster I can get my happy ass to the u.s and start my life right
31:43There that's what I said. That's what she said
31:46She's gotta go
31:47She's gotta go. I'm ready to fly there and block it
31:51I really hope that he comes back and he doesn't bring her with him, you know, like yeah
31:56Because once because again, even if that's the case
31:59He would bring her here and time would go by before he realizes what she's doing, you know
32:04Because when you're in love, you know, even if you're not expecting when you're in love
32:07you don't see half the shit that everybody else you know, you don't see any of them because you really want that person to be
32:13the person you want them to be so
32:15Oh, this is hard. Okay. So I want to talk about brian right because brian is in columbia with ingrid
32:22And he dropped all this info, right? So first of all, you didn't get to react with us me and gina last week
32:27so
32:28Give me your reaction on the way that he told ingrid about his past
32:34Narcissistic gaslighting piece of shit
32:39So he was upset because he was like, oh I feel judged and I feel like you're not giving me a chance
32:45How do because the way that he made this?
32:47On her was really impressive to me because I was like, how is you being a liar and withholding information?
32:54And not telling her things how are you disappointed in her because he's like i'm just so disappointed in her reaction
33:01Narcissistic gaslighting piece of shit
33:05do you
33:06Feel like he thinks that he can treat people any way he wants and then you're you're not supposed to
33:12React because I don't want this to come out wrong the world but because because he's in a freaking wheel. Yes
33:18That's how he's got it. Yeah, right because I feel like he has this victim mentality where if somebody doesn't do what he wants
33:25He's like, well, i'm just a guy in a wheelchair and it's like well, no, she's not upset with you
33:31Rewind to the beginning
33:33They introduced him your reaction my reaction all of america's reaction. He comes out. Oh
33:41What a sweetheart I?
33:42Did you're right I did well, why is he in a wheelchair? Oh my god, he got shot
33:49Poor guy. Oh my god. He was carjacked poor guy
33:53Well, she doesn't know the whole story. We're like, okay, we need the whole story now
33:57We have the whole story and i'm ready to shoot his ass myself
34:02See what's interesting to me is he's a narrative controller
34:07And that's how he got us
34:08He only wanted us to know a certain amount of your friend and he did the same shit to ingrid
34:13She could only know a little bit of the story so he could rope her in and that's exactly how he got us
34:18Because I was like, oh, he's a nice guy. He's so independent. I want him to be happy
34:22He's been married four times. He's just trying to find the right girl
34:25And he but he got us because he didn't tell us anything. Yeah, and he did the same to ingrid
34:30He was like, oh, well, you know, i'm not gonna tell her anything about me until i'm there and forcing myself
34:35Oh, so, how do you feel about?
34:37Him forcing himself to the house to meet author. I'm because she said
34:41She wasn't ready for that literally
34:43When he dropped her off at the house and she said this stop here. This is my house
34:48I was like girl. You never should have shown him where you live
34:51Yeah, she should have took an uber. That's what I thought too
34:54I was like because you said that you didn't want your parents to know and you weren't ready for him to meet your son
35:00You should have protected your because this is your safe space, right?
35:04And if he you can't trust him you can't trust him because you didn't couldn't trust him to tell you the truth
35:08You couldn't trust him to be honest
35:10so you shouldn't trust him in your safe space and I knew that he was gonna do it because when he said it at the
35:16Dinner, he was like, oh, well, I want to meet your son and she's like, no, we're not. Yeah
35:19we're not there and the way that he forced it it just
35:23It gave me a weird vibe because I was like you shouldn't force that
35:28That's something that her as a mom has to decide when it's time to do
35:32You don't get to just show up and say well i'm here let me in so I can meet your kid
35:36Yeah, I hated that and it's like he's he does this
35:40um
35:40He does it in every aspect like he he doesn't give her all the information and then when he gives her the information
35:45He gaslights her for being hurt
35:47Yeah, it's like well
35:48You can't gaslight her for being hurt because she's only hurt because you didn't tell her
35:52Right, like you I don't know. He just gives me this weird vibe and I think that he makes it seem like
35:57Well, he did in the first episode. He was like, well, i'm single. I've been married four times
36:01He's like most people can't accept the fact that i'm a quadriplegic and I was like well look here
36:05I don't think the issue is you being in a wheelchair. I think the issue is you're a liar
36:10yeah, and and like
36:12I was like don't put people in a wheelchair in the same category as you people in a wheelchair have nothing to do
36:17With you being a liar and treating people the way that you treat people these four wives ran from you
36:23For a reason and I guarantee you none of those times were because you were in a wheelchair
36:27It's because you were lying cheating or whatever you're doing right every week literally had you shot in the back
36:34Right. Oh my I don't I don't want to laugh but you're right. She literally tried to end him
36:40Like this is how women feel about you
36:42So, please please please stop making it seem like the wheelchair has anything to do
36:47with those failed relationships because we're watching this relationship with ingrid and
36:51I can automatically see why he's single at 51 and can't keep a woman in his life because he's dishonest
36:58He omits the truth and then he gaslights him. He makes them feel bad for not for not embracing his lies
37:05I think that's what's crazy. Yeah
37:07So he lied about his age. He lied about being a drug addict. He lied about being a drug dealer
37:11He lied. He lied. He lied. He lied. He lied then he says
37:16her lack of compassion
37:18Her lack of or her reaction shows me a lack of compassion
37:22my reaction
37:23You think that that showed a lack of compassion you would have shit your pants if you saw my reaction
37:30She was very
37:32Respectful right up and flip that fucking wheelchair upside down and say
37:38done
37:39Right. I mean, yeah, that's what I thought like her when she was in the car
37:44And he he dropped the information I was like that was the time where she should have just blew up
37:48Yeah, and was like you lied to me about your age
37:51You lied to me about this because she said it she was like if I would have known everything about you and your past
37:55I don't think you would be here right now. Absolutely. And then the fact that he's like, well, she's not compassionate
38:01And i'm like, she doesn't have to be compassionate to you when you're a liar
38:06Right, like compassion is something that we give people that are honest and decent and good, you know
38:11That's what we show those people. We show them compassion, but I was like when you treat people like shit
38:16They're gonna treat you like shit in return. Don't be surprised. He also lied about
38:22Excuse me about being independent
38:24And I can do all this stuff on my own which he can
38:28Then he shows up. Oh, I need you to help me with my pants. I need you to help me with my shower
38:33I need you to help you you lying piece of shit
38:37like yeah, I
38:39He's up there he is
38:41above
38:42Lauren and
38:44Kyle, what's his face? He is on the top of my yuck list
38:51I really
38:52Did like him at first but now I see
38:55It's he got me the same way. He gets all these women. He releases the right amount of information
39:00Yep to build a false narrative. Yep, and then he gets you and then when he has you roped
39:07He lets the information go and then gaslights you I can't and it's like what he's gonna what bomb he's gonna drop next week
39:15You think there's more?
39:16He said there's more what's next? What could it possibly be now? No, he said something about I haven't even told her the whole story yet
39:25Oh my god
39:26So she should just get a restraining order
39:30I was like I cannot with this man at this point
39:35Call the police department and just have them come get him. Yeah, like at this point there's no because if he's
39:41live on a hill
39:43Yeah, I saw it just just push him push him out, right? You can't get back in that's
39:49That's a cruel thing. But when when you treat people the way you treat people you gotta you got that's to be expected
39:54oh, so bea and rory are in south africa and
39:59She's trying to hide him in the airport, right?
40:02Like i'm trying to understand so my first in my first
40:06Thought with vea and rory is they're in love with each other still do you still get the vibe?
40:11So i'm trying to understand and okay. So the back story vea
40:16She was adopted. She had a lot of issues growing up and her brother was killed by law enforcement
40:21Which in turn her and rory's baby, um, she had a miscarriage
40:24So they they have that trauma bond and she said that you know
40:28What she was going through it was difficult to maintain a healthy relation obviously
40:32It was difficult to maintain a healthy relationship. So they they grew apart and broke up, but I just don't understand why they
40:39Aren't together now. Yeah, right because if she feels she's ready to get back into a relationship, I think it should be with him
40:46Yeah, because she's so worried about what he thinks and she can't do this without him and she needs him for support
40:52Why can't they just be together? I don't understand. We're sunny
40:55Because she's cuckoo for coco puffs too bitch be crazy
41:00She is crazy. I tell you she definitely is. Um,
41:04I'm, just trying to follow along with the narrative of sunny and where he goes
41:09And like there's a puzzle feel bad for him. I know we haven't really met him yet
41:14But I feel bad for this dude. He seems really
41:18Innocent right like he said he had his first kiss at 12 and he he had a like one girlfriend
41:26Oh not 12 21 21
41:28And he's his first kiss was at home. Yeah. Yeah, so I feel like he's not
41:34emotionally equipped to deal with such a
41:38Cluster cluster. Yeah of craziness and I feel like this is kind of like gonna destroy him relationship wise
41:46Because he and he seems sweet, you know, I know that he wants her to convert, you know, that's whatever he's a muslim
41:51I get that but like as a as a guy he seemed like a sweet person
41:56And I feel like she's gonna destroy, you know how?
41:59There's like a good person and then some toxic person comes to destroy them
42:03I feel like she's the toxic person headed to south africa to destroy that sweet innocent person
42:09And then he's gonna be like, you know damaged now like that's how and because his last
42:15This is gonna be his last girlfriend and she's bringing, you know, I said on twitter
42:19I was like you're bringing your old dick to meet your new dick literally and
42:23How do you think this is gonna go because she's like, oh, well, you know, he'll probably be mad
42:27But I was like, no, he's not gonna be mad. He's gonna feel disrespected
42:30Because the first time you meet the person that you want to be with it should just you should just bring yourself
42:36You wouldn't bring your mom. You wouldn't bring your sister. You wouldn't bring well
42:40You might bring your dog, but like you wouldn't bring anybody else, right?
42:43And I feel like it's especially for his culture where having men around is like disrespect
42:49Yeah
42:49So I was like you bringing the person that you used to not only did you used to have sex with but you are gonna
42:53Have it. Yeah
42:55Not in only reason why it didn't is because unfortunately it passed there you would have the baby
43:00That was exactly what you wanted and that bond
43:03That's really strong if you were gonna have a baby with somebody you freaking love that person
43:07Absolutely bringing that because it's like a competition because it's like he wants to love you
43:11But then you're bringing the person that you're really really you were really in love with
43:15He's gonna feel like he has to win you
43:17Over and that's not fair
43:19Rory's face was so sad when he says, okay. So when we get there
43:24What's happening?
43:26And she's like, well, we're gonna go to our motel and you can go to yours
43:30I
43:31Saw that it's almost
43:33Do you think okay so I had a question because I was watching their interactions and I got a weird vibe
43:37Do you think that there's still like benefits going on between them?
43:41Because I got a vibe that they were still having sex. So you got the vibe. Oh, yeah
43:45okay, so it wasn't just me because I was like they're acting like
43:49There was tension and I was like if he's really because she said that he had to fly into town
43:53So he's not local. So I was like, why are y'all acting like y'all be having sex?
43:58Yeah, I got this weird vibe and you're right when he was she was talking about sunny
44:03He had a weird look on his face like he was disappointed. Yeah, and i'm like again like so why are y'all doing this?
44:09Why is she doing this when?
44:10He's right here. He's literally right here. Just be with him and don't be wasting everybody else's time
44:17it's
44:19She's she's already got me on the deep end on her. I can't I I just feel like I need to put rory
44:26And niles in a bubble and ingrid all in a bit
44:30And we'll protect them and we'll take chitty he's good even though he's
44:35There for the story. Yeah
44:38Oh
44:39Now that we know that their story is bs. I want to ask you about his his eyesight story because it's very outlandish and crazy
44:46right, yeah, so
44:48he said that
44:50The apple fell on his eye and then the pain went away and then he stopped being able to see and then
44:55Or no a year later
44:57I think he said there was a glycoma and he doesn't even know if those two things are
45:02related
45:03this whole and then
45:05Didn't he hit a wooden desk in the first episode and now he had a wooden bench? Yeah
45:10It was a wooden desk then I wouldn't I thought he said it was a desk at school
45:13Is what he said the first time and now it's a wooden bench
45:17And this whole thing is really confusing me and then I saw somebody posted a picture
45:22He was wearing a watch in one of the photos. Oh, that's funny. So what?
45:27All she kept saying was yay we get to see monkeys i'm never gonna leave his side again
45:33Look, look, look, we're at the top now. You don't say that shit to a blind man. I eat
45:38and
45:39The fact and she said something really weird to me too. I had to bring this up
45:43She was like you realize if you weren't blind I wouldn't be here and she's like do you believe that?
45:49It was a miracle or like this happened so we could be and I was like, so you're saying
45:54Do you feel happy that you lost your eyesight?
45:57That's basically what she was saying. I was like, what kind of crazy thing do you ask someone?
46:02Are you happy that something horrific happened to you so we could be together? And then the fact that she like
46:07Says that his eyesight is such an obsession for her is even more weird because she's like I just love that
46:13He's blind. I'm like, that's a weird thing to say literally I agree. I was like, what is she even saying?
46:20She's crazy because she's like what you like because she's like do you feel like happy or glad that this happened?
46:26I'm like, no, he's not happy that he can't see dumbass
46:28Like why would you say that like what a weird thing to say and then she's like, well, this is like a miracle
46:33This was like god god did this you think?
46:37God took away his eyesight so he could give you a blind person because you got a blind person fetish
46:42Do you think that's what god is spending his time doing right now? We have an election
46:46Who are you to say what anything to do with his faith, you don't know what his faith is
46:52You you have no idea his relationship with god. Well, first of all, she doesn't even believe in it
46:58She believes in aliens and the illuminati
47:00And she's telling him what his religion did for her and i'm like, you don't even believe in it
47:05Why would god go out of his way to do something for you that you don't even believe in it?
47:08Yeah, wouldn't he do it for you?
47:10I'm like, you don't even believe in it
47:11Why would god go out of his way to do something for you that you don't even believe in it?
47:15Yeah, wouldn't he do something for somebody who actually believes in him before he would do it for you?
47:20It just I don't know it really bothered me when she said that because I was like I would never in a million years
47:25Ask someone who was say in a wheelchair be like aren't you glad that this happened so we could be together? What?
47:31That is a insanely disrespectful offensive thing to say
47:36To anyone no one is ever happy that something like this happens to them and no one thinks that this was
47:42um a miracle
47:43No
47:44Miracles are when people were born blind and now can see right? It's the freaking opposite of what happened
47:50So I am so disgusted
47:53with the fact that she said that and even he was like
47:56Makes me question and i'm like you should question you should anyone says this out loud question
48:01That is not something that you should ever say to someone who is suffering from blindness
48:05Like aren't you glad that you're blind? What the hell is wrong with you?
48:08Yeah, I I agree
48:10it just
48:11Was this episode was a lot for me?
48:14so
48:15But oh and she's also said before she said that I forgot
48:18She was like if there was a surgery that I could pay to get to help you see again
48:22I would and then within the same breath. She was like i'm just you do realize if you weren't blind
48:27I wouldn't be here. Yeah that that caught me as strange too because she said that first and then followed it up with
48:34Well, don't get your eyes out back eyesight back because i'll leave you you're like what?
48:38Literally, but if glaucoma is what caused his blindness. There actually is a surgery you can pay for now
48:43Shut the hell up and pay for it
48:46Wait, so there's a surgery
48:48Yeah
48:49Yeah, because he said one eye was a glycoma the other eye
48:52He said he hit on even if you could pay for it and give him 50 percent of his vision back
48:58That's 50 percent more than he has right now
49:01So pay for that shit get your crazy ass home send him the money and get out of his eyesight
49:07that would be
49:10If I feel like if he did have his eyesight back she would leave him and I think that makes it
49:15It makes it worse for me
49:17Because she doesn't really love him. It's like because if you love someone you love them
49:21The whole person yeah their flaws their issues their disadvantages you just love them and she was just like well
49:27I love you because of your disadvantages
49:30Which is just weird. No one ever says that usually you like saying anybody could ever say
49:35Typically you would say I love everything about you, right?
49:39And you don't want to change right and if you do want to change them you want it to go from blind to sight
49:45Yeah, you don't want it to go in the other direction
49:47So i'm interested in seeing if there will be someone who offers up some services like a surgery
49:54That could help him. Yeah, right because
49:57He said it he's like, oh the doctors didn't know what to do for me and I was like, hmm
50:02Maybe they just hadn't seen this
50:04Specifically in your area in your region, you know, because glaucoma is pretty. Um common
50:10And I was people in america smoke weed
50:13Well, right I know like two people off the top of my head that have glaucoma yeah, so I guess much more common
50:20yeah, so i'm wondering if
50:23He could have at least one error
50:24I repaired and be able to see and if if that's what comes out of this
50:29If they are doing a fake storyline and he actually gets the surgery. I feel like that's a win
50:34Right. I feel like that's a win because nobody deserves to go through what he went through
50:38That would be the best thing that ever came out of tlc, right?
50:42I would love to see somebody
50:45donate their time or service or
50:47Recommendations something to help bring his sight back and then i'll feel like we're actually doing something positive other than just judging
50:54every day
50:55Right, like I feel like we would have to be
50:57As soon as it doesn't matter who it is could be the most world-renowned doctor on the planet
51:04That says i'm gonna do this surgery for you for free like I my heart goes out
51:10She would step up and she would say if it wasn't for me
51:13You would have never been on the show and this would have never happened
51:16And now you can see and now I have to leave because i'm crazy and you can see it
51:22He can see it not the we can all see it you don't need eyesight to see that renee is no all there
51:28But he can see the facial expressions when she's saying don't kill that chicken. Well, yeah
51:35That that's scary in itself i'm sure that his sister victoria had a long conversation with him that night
51:40Yeah, like let me tell you what this lady said and did at the market because you know
51:44You have to explain like she was trying to explain and describe
51:48She i'm pretty sure victoria described to him in great detail on the craziness of this american, right?
51:53I'm, pretty sure she was like, let me tell you how crazy she is and i'm pretty sure he knows
51:58But I think he knew already like honestly, I think he knew before she got here that she wasn't all there
52:03I think that he might not want to say it on tv, but I think he knew he was getting himself into some shit
52:09I think he knew
52:10Yeah, I agree
52:12all right, so we're gonna come back tuesday because
52:16i'll be
52:18I'm still i'll be in texas tomorrow and I can't go live tomorrow, but we're gonna come back tuesday
52:21Um mama's boy and the other way. Um, so we'll do those two shows
52:27On tuesday and mama's boy is good. Have you been watching? I love oh my god. Oh my gosh
52:32It's so good right this season is they outdid themselves. So yeah, we're gonna talk about that
52:36I'm gonna talk about the other way, which is also good. Like honestly tp is great right now
52:42Isn't it? I know tv's right right now. I'm really happy. So, um, yeah, but we'll be back tuesday
52:47We'll take tomorrow off because i'll be out of town still. Um, so we'll be back. Um, hopefully
52:52Sometime soon i'm gonna text dd actually because i'm thinking about dd
52:56Hopefully maybe fingers crossed we can have dd back on tuesday
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