Most Haunted Paranormal T.V Series 1 - Episode 3 - Avebury stones and The Red Lion Pub
The Most Haunted team visits Avebury, Wiltshire. Considered by some to be one of the most paranormal places in Britain. The town sits within a prehistoric stone circle. The team investigate The Red Lion Inn, haunted by four ghosts.
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00:00I didn't know that spirits could physically harm you.
00:07It's a well.
00:08I've got to make it to the door.
00:10Stone circles, poltergeists and fear.
00:12Avebury, is it haunted?
00:14I believe in ghosts.
00:30Hello and welcome to Most Haunted.
00:41Now, the village in Avebury is one of the most paranormal places in Great Britain.
00:46It's surrounded by these amazing stones,
00:49and it's said that it's haunted by an old druid priest.
00:56These stones are over 4,000 years old.
00:59They weigh over 40 tonnes, and similar to other stone circles,
01:03no one really knows what they were put there for.
01:06The village of Avebury itself sits inside the centre of the circles.
01:11Now, one of the buildings here, the Red Line Pub,
01:14is supposed to be terribly haunted.
01:18The Red Line Pub dates back to 1802,
01:21but the actual building goes as far back as the 1600s.
01:25There are supposed to be four ghosts here,
01:27one of which is Flory, who was killed during the Civil War,
01:30supposedly by her jealous husband.
01:35One presenter, a psychic, a parapsychologist,
01:38and a very brave film crew are spending 24 hours
01:41to uncover the mysteries of Avebury.
01:48Now, to help us get through the night,
01:50we've got our usual fearless, faithful crew.
01:53We've got the very handsome Mark on camera,
01:55and we've got the very gorgeous, sexy Martin on sound.
01:58Rest of the crew, give us a wave!
02:00Ooh, they're very quiet today, aren't they?
02:03Now, we've also enlisted our usual experts
02:06to get us through the night also.
02:10Jason, we're covering two locations,
02:12the stones themselves and also the Red Line Pub.
02:15So, how are you going to try and catch any paranormal activity here?
02:19We're going to use a couple of different things, as we always do.
02:22Today, in particular, one of the things I'd like to do,
02:24because the circle of stones is sort of very important paranormally
02:27to a lot of people, to sort of join in with that theme, if you like.
02:31We're going to do an experiment of movement of objects,
02:33because there's been some poltergeist activity reported in the pub.
02:36So, I'm going to place coins around the well in the pub and see if they move.
02:39I'm also going to use, both inside and outside,
02:42one of the EMF detectors that we've used in the past.
02:44This one is particularly calibrated for use outside,
02:47so if we pick anything up at all on this,
02:49we'll know straight away it's not due to any natural electricity lines
02:53or any plugs, etc., that we sometimes get inside.
02:55So, we'll be using that.
02:57Perhaps not quite so scientific on the end as well.
02:59We're going to use...
03:00Cooking, are we?
03:01Some cooking flour, yeah.
03:02Now, in the past, what we've done is sprinkle this,
03:04a very light dusting over sort of surfaces of tables, chairs, etc.,
03:08where paranormal events have happened,
03:10leave the room for a while or the area, come back,
03:12and sometimes you find that there are markings in the flour
03:14which can't be made naturally.
03:16We've caught handprints, etc., with this in the past.
03:18So, we're going to do that in the restaurant area of the Red Line Pub,
03:21where a lot of poltergeist activity with movements of chandeliers
03:24has been experienced.
03:28In the three years that I've been manager here,
03:31there's been some very bizarre goings-on.
03:34Starting from the day that we moved in,
03:36I thought, what have we done?
03:39Well, apparently, during the Civil War of about 1643,
03:45Flory's husband went away to the wars,
03:48and while he was away, she became unfaithful to him.
03:52And when he came home, he found out,
03:56and in a fit of rage, he strangled her,
03:59and the story has it that he deposited her body down the well,
04:04which, of course, wasn't in the pub then, it was outside.
04:08It was the village well.
04:10And that's the story.
04:14When we put a diver down,
04:16we fixed up a gantry over the well and put a diver down.
04:21When he got down to the bottom into the water,
04:24which was about 85 to 90 feet,
04:27there was a great big boulder down there and he couldn't get past it.
04:31So, we still don't know whether poor old Flory is down there or not.
04:34Flory doesn't like men with beards, allegedly.
04:38And we had a guy in the restaurant who was slating,
04:42you know, it's all rubbish, it's all rubbish,
04:45and the chandelier just started spinning over the top of him.
04:49And then he left hastily after that.
04:52There was, for instance, a hunting horn
04:55used to be up over the top of the bar there.
04:58That flew off and it came hurtling into a bar.
05:03One of the barmen here, he used to shave just round here,
05:10cos he got a beard, you see,
05:12and the glass flew off the wall and hit him straight in the face.
05:16I heard all the stories, you know, about the ghost called Flory,
05:20but I kept on getting her name wrong one night.
05:23I kept on calling her Flory.
05:26So, all the restaurant lights just tripped out
05:29and there's three trip switches that do the restaurant.
05:32All of them had gone apart from the one bulb that was still left on
05:36and we just couldn't understand how this one bulb was on
05:40Oh, yes, this place is definitely haunted inasmuch
05:44that the number of people have come in here and know there's something.
05:48I took one lady up to...
05:50She said, it's upstairs, I think.
05:53Took her up and we went round the different rooms.
05:56She walked into one room and she said,
05:59this is it, she said, the feeling is there straight away.
06:03She said, there's something or somebody in here now.
06:07I said, well, I can't see.
06:09So she said, no, you won't.
06:11The stereo in the mornings, the last thing I do is turn it off at night,
06:16come down to where we're sitting now
06:19and it just started playing automatically
06:22and it's a CD player so it can't just trigger itself off.
06:26I'm sure Flory's haunting the red light because...
06:31I don't know, it's one of those things that you've got a feeling for.
06:36And in a way, I love her.
06:39The most haunted room is definitely the private room.
06:43People tend not to try and stay in there if possible,
06:46if they've stayed here before.
06:48And if people do stay there, it's icy cold, even though there's heating.
06:53I dare any member of your crew to stay in the private room alone.
06:57You'd be surprised the number of people that come in here,
07:01and this is perfectly true, I'm not pulling your leg,
07:04and say, is there something about this place?
07:07And I say, spiritually, or, you know, yeah, there's a feeling about it.
07:17Well, tonight, I think possibly quite a few things will happen.
07:20We're obviously surrounded with spirits here
07:22and the ghost of Flory is somewhat a local phantom celebrity, if you like.
07:26With there being so much alcohol around, I'm a little bit dubious
07:30as to whether that will perhaps interact with some of the experiences here.
07:33We're trying to keep that not the case, but who knows, we'll see later on.
07:37Well, the three circles of stone at Avebury
07:39do have an enormous sort of paranormal significance to a lot of people here.
07:42That does mean that people have sort of auto-expectation
07:45or auto-suggestion of what may happen to them.
07:48The ghost stories associated with the stones
07:50aren't perhaps what you would expect.
07:52You'd probably expect things like pagan rituals
07:54and ceremonies sort of re-enacting themselves.
07:56That isn't quite the case.
07:58I'll be interested to see if people do pick up
08:00on some of the ghost stories associated with the stones themselves.
08:14Well, this is the main dining room area
08:16where apparently a lot of poltergeist activity occurs.
08:20Bangs upstairs, things moving are often heard
08:23and things down here, objects, are moved around mysteriously.
08:27Perhaps the main bit of activity here would be in this bay area
08:32and the chandelier likes to move on its own.
08:39Up these stairs are two of the most haunted rooms
08:42in the whole of the Red Lion pub.
08:49Well, this room is what's known as the private room
08:52and there are supposed to be three ghosts here.
08:54There is a lady called Beth who sits and writes a letter
08:57on the table in the corner
08:59and then there are two children that are supposed to be
09:02cowering in the corner.
09:04The general feel of this room by many of the guests
09:07is a feeling of horrible oppression,
09:11not very nice, quite a sad feeling, really,
09:13and many people have asked to leave.
09:16It just feels very cold to me, that's all.
09:19Oh, well, I'll see you later.
09:25This is known as the Avenue Room.
09:27There are supposed to be two ghosts in here,
09:29one male and one female,
09:31though nobody knows who they are.
09:38With everything set up for the night shoot
09:40and Derek Okora's prompt arrival,
09:42we could afford a little time to relax
09:44and enjoy our dinner before the long night ahead.
09:48LAUGHTER
09:53Jason, is it at all possible that buildings or places like this,
09:56Averyville, stone stuff, actually hold memories?
09:59Well, it's one of the standard theories
10:01that's put forward to explain ghosts,
10:03and that is where, if you can imagine a recording tape
10:05that records sound magnetically,
10:07stones that buildings are made of have magnetic properties in them
10:10and it's believed that the stones themselves act as a recording device
10:13and actually play back things that have happened in them,
10:15sort of events, emotions and maybe even scenes from the past.
10:18Derek, why is it that some ghosts seem to hang around,
10:22that they've obviously been here for thousands of years?
10:26Why do we still see them?
10:28Don't they want to sort of disappear and go off into heaven, as it were?
10:31Well, to a larger degree, Yvette, it is exactly that.
10:35I mean, they have got their opportunities and choices, OK,
10:40to seek a way to leave the atmosphere.
10:43However, a lot of them, as I understand it,
10:46do stay around for a long time,
10:49but it's the residual energy that's still left,
10:52i.e., you know, the property, the fabric, what have you,
10:56that they once dwelt and experienced life and their life's experiences.
11:03OK, now, this is the dining room, as we know.
11:07Are you picking anything up here at all, Derek?
11:11Yes, I'm very aware of quite a strong presence of a lady.
11:16My mind, my attention was drawn to the lady
11:19and for some reason, on the psychic levels,
11:22would you believe it, Yvette, I'm drawn to the manager.
11:26Our manager? Yeah.
11:28Richard, it's very interesting because in no way is it meant to alarm you,
11:34but this lady really isn't, to be honest.
11:38This lady seems to be following you around at times
11:42and I feel, psychically, that she's trying to make me aware
11:47that you are, at times, aware of movement
11:51and she is so strong and, you know, she draws,
11:54and there's no harm to it, she draws off your energy.
11:57She likes you, it's like attracting light.
12:00Is that the name, Sam?
12:02Florence.
12:04Florence.
12:07Florence. OK, thank you.
12:10I'm just trying to, as it's coming through...
12:13I've got something to link,
12:16and a man's voice says,
12:18to the great name of Arthur.
12:21I got this three times, three times earlier,
12:25and there's great links with something to do with great Arthur.
12:30Ooh.
12:32King, thank you, King Edgar.
12:35The woman's voice says to me,
12:37I'm King Edgar's wife.
12:40I belonged originally here.
12:43Blimey, that's... This belongs to me.
12:47Where is my husband?
12:49Where is King Edgar?
12:51She says, bless you.
12:53She walks around still looking for this soul.
12:56What? Jason...
12:58So this is the King Edgar, the connection with the woman's King Edgar
13:01in the 9 or 10 hundreds is Florence.
13:03I take it must be Florence.
13:05And that was King Edgar's wife.
13:07Well, this is what I've just been given.
13:09OK.
13:11I'm just trying to, as it's coming through...
13:13Do you want to have a walk through and see where we go?
13:16Yeah. Also, a little boy.
13:18Are you aware of a little boy here?
13:20Are you?
13:22Wow, he runs round, and he's so excited at times,
13:25he's like a whirling dervish.
13:27Zoom!
13:29And he goes through at speed.
13:31And if he goes so fast, he goes past and people go,
13:34oh, what was that?
13:36Does that happen?
13:38It's true, yeah.
13:40He's lovely. He's a cute boy.
13:42He had his life taken from him.
13:44Here? Taken away, yes, here.
13:46Really? Yes.
13:48There was ritual...
13:50I've got this before.
13:52There was ritual killings on this site.
13:58What kind of ritual killings?
14:00Sacrifice. Of people?
14:02Yep. For what purpose?
14:04Children. Children?
14:06Children were sacrificed? Yes.
14:08Oh, dear. Why? Maids as well, young maids.
14:11Young maids who had children.
14:13Who was sacrificing them and for what purpose?
14:17People that were...
14:20A woman's voice said,
14:22this was before the smugglers.
14:25Oh.
14:27It's the tunnels with the smugglers.
14:29OK. There's tunnels at this property.
14:32Do you know of tunnels? I know of one, yeah.
14:35Is it connected to smuggling?
14:37I honestly couldn't tell you.
14:39I know it's all been blocked up now.
14:41It's broken. The tunnel's broken.
14:45There's been two foundations,
14:47originally from the tunneling.
14:49One's something that's quite close,
14:51that can be seen by the eye.
14:55And before that...
14:58..a redirection of tunnel
15:00to something that's six or seven miles away.
15:03Let's move on. OK. OK. Thank you.
15:05All right. Yeah. Yeah.
15:10You see, someone from spirit hasn't come into this room.
15:13They have? Once... Yeah.
15:15When I come into this room here now,
15:17someone wants to wave.
15:19That seems to be, like, the symbol to me
15:22of a person that was either practising
15:26in his time, practising as a magician,
15:30because I get all the symbols
15:33of the thought patterns coming in,
15:36similar to what a magician...
15:39How far back is this?
15:41I feel this is, you know,
15:43this is probably going back to
15:46between 10 and 11...
15:49..of the hundreds.
15:51And he was something to be reckoned with
15:55in the essence that he had control over people's...
16:00Or he gave the impression that he controlled people's thoughts.
16:04Mm-hm.
16:06And he goes back very strongly
16:10to the basis of Avebury.
16:12Very strong.
16:18There's wind blowing down the chimney.
16:20I suddenly thought... It's not a ghost.
16:22Someone's just said to me,
16:24there's a so-called legend...
16:26Sam's laughing about this.
16:28I hope I can share this with you.
16:30Sam says, there is a so-called legend,
16:33has it been written and been passed through and down
16:38to say that, erm...
16:41Is it Merlin? Merlin, thank you.
16:44That Merlin is close by.
16:46That is not so.
16:48That is not so.
16:50Is that true, is there a legend to say that...
16:52Merlin's quite close by.
16:54Merlin is... The legend of Merlin is connected to Glastonbury,
16:57which isn't far away.
16:59He's...
17:01Sam says, he is not in any way
17:06buried behind that stone.
17:09Here? No, not here.
17:11But something... It's a structure.
17:14And he's not there.
17:16Legend has it that he's there.
17:18Legend also has it that he's in...
17:20Legend also has it that he didn't exist at all.
17:22Yes. He's a legend in himself.
17:24Can I just say what the spirit said?
17:27There was no existence of the soul.
17:32He's not on any spiritual log or agenda,
17:35so he didn't exist.
17:37He's not on the spiritual register.
17:39Let's move on.
17:41Oh, God.
17:43Now I know all about Merlin.
17:45Come on.
17:48Do you want to go in there?
17:50Yes.
17:54Just wait there.
17:56These bedrooms are active, you see.
18:10Now, coming in here now,
18:15I get this very young...
18:20Not as young as the little boy,
18:23but a very young girl,
18:25a young girl, her essence comes here.
18:29I feel with her as well, you know,
18:32because of the view and her age,
18:34the word virgin comes to mind with me,
18:38of the, you know, virginal child,
18:42which was like, to them, I feel,
18:44must have been a supreme thing.
18:47Now, where the boy's concerned,
18:49it's a different matter altogether
18:52why he would be sacrificed.
18:59Maybe the feelings that come through
19:02is that he couldn't be of much use
19:05because he wasn't strong or whatever
19:08and he was no use to at that time.
19:12A totally different reflection to the girl.
19:15And also I feel also that they would have come
19:19from families that would not have,
19:23if I may use that word,
19:25battered an eyelid if a child was to be lost.
19:29So it wasn't as if they were just
19:33taken away from a noble family
19:37who would miss the children and what have you,
19:41as if it was, I suppose, the feeling I get
19:44in saying is like two a penny, you know,
19:47you just, it's nothing.
19:49Do you want to move from here?
19:51Yeah.
19:52You've got horrible parents.
19:54Yeah, well, that's what I get.
20:01This place here is, at times, very active,
20:05but I feel that these souls here can be,
20:09there's more kindredness to them.
20:11Also, can I just say, because I was very aware
20:15and I'm drawn now out to the front because,
20:18you see, I saw firstly a carriage with four horses
20:23and I heard the clipping of the hooves
20:27and the carriage being drawn up and what have you
20:30and then another carriage,
20:33there seems to be two carriages,
20:35but outside I feel that these carriages
20:39at some time or other have been heard, experienced.
20:43Well, we'll go outside and wrap up warm.
20:46OK.
20:47Shall we go downstairs? Yes.
20:51Before we ventured outside, Jason set up the flower experiment.
20:55It was pitch black, freezing cold and very windy.
20:59We were determined to walk around the stones
21:02and maybe find out from Derek their purpose.
21:05Oh, it's so eerie. Look at those stones.
21:09It seems as if, as we're coming in to this,
21:13the middle of this group of stones,
21:16as if I'm hearing repeatedly a chanting.
21:20It seems as if I've got a circle of women
21:23and I've got a circle of men that are separate
21:28and the men seem to be...
21:33To me, it's like in our work when a person chants a mantra.
21:37What's the purpose of the chant, do you think?
21:40Why are you hearing this?
21:42I feel, as a matter of fact, as we've got the conditions now,
21:45which are dreadful, aren't they? Yep.
21:47You know, early hours of the morning.
21:49It seems as if they're chanting
21:51and it seems to be an encouragement of the elements,
21:56you know, it's like as if the ladies are looking up
22:00and are so happy to see the sun
22:03because, you know, it changes here to complete clear blue skies
22:08and I feel it's the elements, yeah.
22:11Some form of nature worship of the sun god?
22:14Yeah, of nature, yeah. OK.
22:16And it seems very, very, very strong
22:19and, again, this is residual, this is not active.
22:22It's residual, going back in feeling.
22:26I'm not in any way at this point aware...
22:30I don't know if anyone else feels this way,
22:33but I'm not aware of an individual spirit active in this section.
22:38At all.
22:40What the hell is that?
22:42What?
22:44What is that? Oh, my God!
22:46Are you OK? That's all right.
22:48They're two people. Two people.
22:50They're not spirits.
22:52Oh, God!
22:54He did look for a moment.
22:56Well, I'd had a hood on and I thought, oh, my God!
22:59It's the Druid priests, come to haunt us.
23:02There's some really large megaliths over in that way, Derek,
23:05so we move over there and see if you can pick anything up there.
23:08Do very slowly, everybody.
23:11This wind is fierce, isn't it?
23:15These stones...
23:18My psychic feelings, leading as I come very close to them,
23:22seems to me to be, like, symbolising a gateway of thought.
23:29A gateway.
23:31And even though there's three,
23:33this being virtually to the middle of the two outer stones
23:37seems to be the lead stone.
23:40Well, it's actually part of an enormous ring.
23:43There's 98 of the stones.
23:45But this is the gateway, the three,
23:48and it's got something to do with a belief,
23:52something to do with a trilogy.
23:57That might make sense, actually,
23:59with one of the theories of why the stones are here,
24:02because pagan beliefs dictate that part of their faith is the goddess,
24:08it's a triple goddess, maiden, mother and crony,
24:11which sort of links in with what you were saying about trilogies.
24:14Yes, the trilogy is very strong here, Jason.
24:17Absolutely.
24:18Let's see if we can get anything on the stone.
24:24See, they're not playing up for us, are they?
24:26Well, there should be absolutely no electromagnetic energy at all here,
24:29so even a tiny fluctuation would indicate something unusual.
24:33Right.
24:34I feel that a particular man chanted his own physical mantra
24:39before these all joined in, all the followers.
24:43He would do this on three different occasions within a given 24 hours.
24:49There were set times.
24:51That's it. Thank you, Sam.
24:53The trilogy of three.
24:55We set our clock from the three.
24:58What you're sort of saying there is that this is some kind of timepiece,
25:02and that's the theory with Stonehenge, which is near here,
25:05isn't far away, another stone circle.
25:07But there are actually three stone circles in Aylesbury.
25:10I mean, this gives you the impression there's one, but there are three.
25:13We are in one of the three stone circles.
25:16OK, fine, that's good.
25:18Now, that would also help me with this, where I've just been...
25:22If there are three, and it links in with the trilogy of three,
25:26you're going to have, again with the three, the main stone.
25:30So there would be three, as you've said, three stone circles,
25:35so there would be three of the likes of the level of this man
25:39heading the three circles of stones.
25:42At exactly the same time.
25:44At exactly the same time, to bring in the power and what have you.
25:47Ah, I see.
25:49And you know the... Thank you. Sorry, Evie.
25:51The moon. The moon has got a lot to play. Not the sun.
25:54The moon has got a lot to do with the three.
25:57Well, it has, because in pagan belief, the sun and the moon are like opposites.
26:01The moon represents the feminine, the sun represents the masculine.
26:04And the two together, the duality of the two,
26:07is very much part of pagan belief,
26:09which is intrinsically linked with sites like Avery and Stonehenge.
26:13So it does link in that they would have been perhaps worshipping the moon,
26:17if you like, or worshipping the sun, or an amalgamation of the pair.
26:20So was Derek's theory of the stones being a timepiece correct?
26:24It's unlikely the truth will ever be fully uncovered.
26:27But the weather was getting worse,
26:29so it was back to the Red Lion to continue our investigation.
26:33At first, Jason, Sam was saying to me a little bit earlier on
26:37to readdress something, because it's most important.
26:40And I said, of course, Sam, of course.
26:42And he said, you talked about Florence.
26:44And I said, yes.
26:46And then suddenly he takes me and, you know,
26:48I seem to have just been taken backwards,
26:51and falling and falling and falling and falling.
26:54And I seem to be at the bottom of something, and I can't get out.
26:58And I feel here. Is it this area?
27:01It's a well.
27:03So Florence is linked with the well, or something to do with the well.
27:08Can you find out about something to do with the well?
27:11There is a story connected to somebody being thrown down a well,
27:17but it's not in this area.
27:19Right. Can I say to you, the link's up here with a well,
27:23and you'll find the connection and the link with Florence.
27:27Florence is not the wife, OK, as we talked about earlier, of Edgar.
27:35Florence is in the well.
27:37Florence went down the well.
27:39Why did she go down the well?
27:41She was killed.
27:42Why?
27:44She certainly didn't fall down.
27:47She was thrown down.
27:49With three men?
27:51I get the impression of three men.
27:54Three men.
27:56Derek's spirit guide, Sam,
27:58did not give us any further information about Florey and the well.
28:02We moved to the upper story of the inn,
28:04where the crew voted for me to spend time in the heavily haunted private room.
28:09I had to face whatever terrors it might hold, alone.
28:16I'm getting very brave. I'm flipping stupid.
28:20Right, now, just as a little tip, a helpful tip,
28:24even when you go into the bedroom and you sit there in the quiet,
28:29OK, which you will, like we all will,
28:32if you start to feel any little sensations
28:36coming across your forehead, down underneath,
28:39like tingling sensation under your eyes,
28:41or even to the top of your head, or even to the base of your neck,
28:47all you have to do, don't panic or anything like that.
28:51It's easy for you to say.
28:53No, but honestly, they're not here to hurt or anything,
28:57but I just feel that may happen, it may happen in other places,
29:00but if it does, just say, bless you, you're most welcome.
29:04And that gives that individual that reassurance, OK,
29:08that, you know, you're not going to be scared.
29:11They don't want you to be scared.
29:13Honestly, you know, however, if, you know,
29:18I think, you know, it's quite lovely, actually,
29:20if you've got your hands out like that
29:22and you feel anything of warm sensation or tingle in your hand,
29:25the person's actually holding your hand.
29:27I think that's lovely.
29:29Right, don't tell me more, don't tell me more, don't tell me more.
29:32I don't want to know. I don't want to know.
29:34OK. Right, then, shall we go?
29:38I can't feel it. It's OK.
29:40I can't feel it. It's OK.
29:43I am petrified.
29:46I just want to keep looking at the camera
29:48because I don't want to look around anywhere else in case I see something.
29:53I cannot last an hour like this.
29:59What the hell was that noise?
30:05The wind outside is blowing
30:07and it's casting shadows over everywhere.
30:12Oh, God.
30:22Oh, God.
30:26Please don't let anything happen to me.
30:29Please don't let anything happen to me.
30:31OK.
30:36If there's anything in here, please go away.
30:39I know it would be nice to capture something on camera
30:41but I really don't want to do this
30:43and I'm not happy about doing it.
30:46One bit.
30:49OK, I'm feeling a little bit of tickling on the top of my head.
30:54Oh, God.
31:02OK, it's gone now.
31:03I can't stand it anymore.
31:17Oh, God, that wind outside.
31:24It's still tickling on the top of my head.
31:32I know you all think,
31:33oh, God, there it is again on top of my head.
31:40I can't stand it anymore.
31:42I'm sorry, I've got to go.
31:43I can't.
31:44I know I'm being a complete wuss.
31:47I'm just too scared to look now.
31:49I've got to make it to the door.
31:53Oh, Jesus.
31:55Get me out.
31:57Carl, Carl.
31:59Carl.
32:01Carl.
32:04While I was alone and terrified in the private room,
32:07next door, Jason had embarked on an experience
32:10that even he had not bargained for.
32:14Right, that's me alone in the Avenue room,
32:17which is supposed to be haunted.
32:18I wish I was scared, but I'm not.
32:21So we'll see if anything happens.
32:24That's the room.
32:27It's now nearly six o'clock in the morning.
32:32And I have once again failed to be scared so far.
32:37Luckily, I've got a room with a bed, which is nice.
32:39Bit of luxury.
32:50I can hear footsteps outside here,
32:53but I think that's Yvette going into the room next door.
32:57She's just through here.
33:02I don't think she'll last very long.
33:04She'll kill me for saying that.
33:10Come on, orbs.
33:12Let's have an orb go past my face.
33:15Actually, I'm going to take some DVRs to the room,
33:18because you never know.
33:20We might catch something.
33:26If there's anything here...
33:32Oh, that's just reflection.
33:34I thought I had one for a sec there.
33:36If there's anything here that wishes to make its presence felt to me,
33:40as a complete sceptic at the moment,
33:43then if you can create some phenomena on the screen,
33:46or move across the room,
33:48such as what is termed an orb...
33:52Thank you very much.
33:54There was one straight away, I think.
33:56Could you show me that again, if you're in the room?
34:01Where did you go?
34:10Yes, are you around me? Yes.
34:12I could see you.
34:14Where are you?
34:21Yes, I just saw you go up the bed.
34:23Wow, straight at me.
34:26And across the back to the bed.
34:31Oh, my God, guys.
34:33It's like a scene out of The Exorcist.
34:36Actually, my heart...
34:38Oh, my God.
34:43I'm starting to get heartburn, actually, which isn't like me.
34:47It's not down to Max's cooking.
34:50It's probably down to the fact that
34:52this is a slightly unusual occurrence happening.
34:55It's certainly something I can't explain with these orbs across the bed.
34:59If you're here and you want to communicate with me,
35:02can I see you across the bed again?
35:04Are you still around me?
35:06Who are you?
35:11Now, what these orbs are, we don't really know,
35:13but we do know that you only catch them at haunted places.
35:16You can't see them by the human eye very often.
35:18It has happened, but it's rare.
35:20They do appear on camera pictures,
35:22such as digital pictures or single-lens reflex pictures,
35:25and they also appear on video,
35:27so there's no way of catching them.
35:29No-one knows what they are, but they're unexplainable.
35:32Whether they're connected to ghosts or not, we don't know,
35:35but they do appear in haunted places,
35:37so it's logical to perhaps make that association at the moment.
35:50I have to say,
35:52despite my hard outer shell,
35:55I'm slightly spooked.
36:02There.
36:04It was just on the bed there. I saw it.
36:10This is weird.
36:16Oh, my God!
36:18Shit!
36:20Shit! Fuck! It's coming towards me!
36:22Fuck!
36:25LAUGHTER
36:29So even Jason, the most sceptical member of our crew,
36:32had given in and fled the room.
36:34OK.
36:36This was the strange moving object that sent him running.
36:39Is this an orb or simply a speck of dust?
36:43When our producer, Carl, went back into the room to retrieve a camera,
36:46two scratch marks appeared on the back of his neck for no reason.
36:50I just went into the room where we were,
36:54the private room.
36:56I went to take the camera down, and I thought,
36:58no, I'll actually take the plug out first.
37:01And I leant down to pull the plug,
37:03and literally just as I pulled the plug out,
37:05I had just this sharp pain in the back of my neck.
37:08Right from the word go.
37:10I mean, that area up there,
37:12the hallway, the two bedrooms and what have you,
37:15they were, at the beginning, when we first walked in, very active.
37:20I think it's important to remember that there's very little evidence
37:23of ghosts hurting people physically, but it isn't unknown.
37:26What this feels like to me
37:29is that there's been a little bit of diva activity.
37:32Well, divas, as you call them, is elemental ghosts,
37:34which is a ghost that's never allegedly lived as a human being.
37:37It's created by negative situations, murders, unpleasant thoughts,
37:41and it sort of creates a feeling of negativity,
37:43and that takes on an intelligence. That's the theory.
37:46We couldn't let this go.
37:48We had to go back into the room to find out
37:50who or what had caused the scratches on Carl's neck.
37:58It was just here.
38:00The locked-off camera was up here,
38:03and I leant down to this plug here
38:07to unplug it,
38:09and that's when it scratched.
38:21God, it's cold in here, isn't it? Yeah.
38:25Come on, you son of a gun.
38:27Let's show yourself.
38:30Come on.
38:32Let's see how much spine you've got.
38:35Very well, it's scratching.
38:38Come on. Prove your ability.
38:42Show your strengths.
38:45I feel you're weak.
38:47Come on.
38:51If I hold my hands out, scratch my hands,
38:55you're most welcome.
38:57Let's see you do it.
39:09I didn't know that spirits could physically harm you.
39:12I mean, to show marks on you.
39:14I couldn't say whether they gain any...
39:17I couldn't say whether they gain any satisfaction, pleasure, whatever,
39:22because I don't understand them enough.
39:27But many years ago, there was a lady come to see me
39:30when I was doing private sessions and whatever, private readings,
39:33and that poor woman, over a period of time,
39:36she was getting scratched, doing healing and getting scratched,
39:39and she said she woke up one evening
39:42and she said she swore at that moment in time
39:45when she got scratched and what have you,
39:47she said it felt like hair, as if there was a cat going...
39:51What was that?
39:53Who just did that with the coin?
39:55I heard it. I heard it.
39:57Was that not you?
39:59My hands were in my pockets.
40:01My hands were in my pockets as well.
40:03I heard something.
40:05It was like...
40:07It was like this.
40:09Yeah, it was like chink.
40:11I didn't feel anything. I thought it was behind me.
40:13And then I thought it was you.
40:15What we can definitely say is that there are lots of
40:18unexplained things that are happening around us here.
40:20Yes.
40:22And they're not due to us being tired.
40:24So that would be paranormal.
40:26It would be unexplainable.
40:28That's...
40:30I'm scared.
40:32I don't happen often.
40:34I'm just keeping very quiet, which is unusual for me.
40:37Ooh!
40:39What? Something just came up.
40:41I don't know if that's what it was.
40:43So had we caught one of the first stages of a ghost manifestation
40:47on camera, was this odd moving light another encounter with an orb?
40:51After close inspection of the tape,
40:53we cannot offer any other explanation.
40:56So it had been a long and eventful night,
40:59and even though Jason's two experiments involving the flower
41:02and the coin showed no result,
41:04the scratches on Carl and the strange object moving on its own
41:07were enough evidence to suggest
41:09that the red line in Avebury could very well be haunted.
41:29That was one of the best experiences that I've had to date,
41:33purely and simply because of the activity
41:35in the different areas of the building,
41:38both higher level and lower level,
41:40at different times during the investigation.
41:43Well, this has certainly been one of the most unusual investigations
41:46that I've ever taken part in.
41:48There was the orbs that seemed to be linking
41:51with different members of the team.
41:54Yvette's reactions to the experiences of the evening
41:57were, I think, due to mass hysteria.
41:59We've had that before, and she gets scared very, very easily.
42:02Yvette, yes, naturally she was a little bit, to say the least,
42:05petrified over certain incidents that actually did take place.
42:10My heart went out a lot to Yvette.
42:13But what I think is the most memorable part of the evening
42:17was when Carl came down from taking off a secured camera
42:21and two scratches appeared on his neck.
42:23Now, these were fresh scratches, you could see, they were red,
42:26they were like open wounds almost,
42:28they were pretty horrific to look at and quite scary,
42:31and that made me think about the whole thing in a different light
42:34and suddenly becomes something not so much as a game and fun
42:37but something that's perhaps potentially dangerous in some way,
42:40and that did concern me.
42:44Well, we've come to the end of our 24 hours
42:46and I have to say Derek was very accurate on quite a lot of things.
42:49Jason, our parapsychologist, was spooked.
42:52And me spending that time alone in that room, I will never, ever forget.
42:57I've never been so frightened in all my life.
42:59And I think, well, will we ever understand what went on here in Avebury?
43:03I don't know.
43:04Anyway, we shall see you at our next location.
43:07Until then, sleep tight.
43:14Well, literally, we were just stood there working
43:16and then the boat kind of looked up and the thing just shook.
43:20That's exactly what happened.
43:27OK, a bit of an overreaction, maybe.
43:31When did you notice it was doing that?
43:33I sat here and looked over the platform. It's moving.
43:35So there's no-one else in this area?
43:37No.