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Sunday Morning Live 6 October 2024

In this episode, I examine the complexities of familial obligations related to the Baby Boomer generation as they age. A listener's question about a resentful sibling prompts a discussion on generational caregiving expectations, emotional burdens on caregivers, and the ethical implications of assessing parental "worthiness" for sacrifice.

I explore the cultural narratives surrounding caregiving, contrasting Boomers' focus on personal fulfillment with the values of earlier generations. Ultimately, I encourage listeners to reflect on their own familial experiences, recognizing that caregiving can serve as an opportunity for moral reflection on family dynamics and intergenerational relationships.

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Transcript
00:00:00Good morning, everybody! 6th of October, 2024! Mmm!
00:00:06It's a new day, it's a new dawn, it's a new life.
00:00:10All right, good morning, everybody, and let's get straight into your questions on this fine day.
00:00:16I have a question for you, Steph.
00:00:18Why is it that family members, particularly my brother,
00:00:21acts like, woe is me, when asked to do anything to help out elderly parents?
00:00:27It's almost a never-ending complaint session when he is asked to do a quick rebate online
00:00:32that would benefit their overall financial status.
00:00:35I finally had enough of the crying and bitching and said I'd take care of it,
00:00:38and then he insults me by saying,
00:00:40You wouldn't know what to do. What the heck?
00:00:44Yes, well, I suppose...
00:00:48What is it now?
00:00:50What is it now? Average...
00:00:53Average age of boomers. I think it's coming.
00:00:56Average age of boomers.
00:01:01Ah, what have we got here?
00:01:05You know, it wouldn't be the end of the world if you returned a result.
00:01:10Boba! Age ranges.
00:01:16You really wouldn't think that, uh...
00:01:19It wouldn't be, uh... It wouldn't be that hard to get?
00:01:25So 1946 and 1964.
00:01:28So those born in 1964 would be 60.
00:01:33So, um...
00:01:3760 to 80s, right?
00:01:41So in the year 2024, all boomers would be turning 60 to 78 years old.
00:01:51By 2030, all baby boomers will be age 65 or older.
00:01:57So...
00:02:00You are not alone in this at all.
00:02:03You are not alone in this.
00:02:05The giant great tidal wave of quicksand is coming.
00:02:10And I think the boomers are fairly healthy in many ways.
00:02:12They were sort of one of the later, last generations
00:02:15to not be raised on poisons and plastics, right?
00:02:19The two P's of the modern world, poisons and plastics.
00:02:22So...
00:02:24Helping our elderly parents.
00:02:29Oof. Oof.
00:02:31I saw... Oh, gosh.
00:02:33I saw, uh...
00:02:35Every now and then, there's something...
00:02:37It's a social media post that is so bitter,
00:02:40it, like, scalds my eyeballs.
00:02:43It scalds my eyeballs.
00:02:46And...
00:02:50One of the ones that I saw...
00:02:54Was...
00:02:56Someone saying something like...
00:02:58You know, it was a, um...
00:03:00It was an elderly woman complaining that her kids aren't having kids.
00:03:05And somebody was saying, like,
00:03:07Well, you, uh...
00:03:09You wanted an economy which was impossible for your children to get ahead.
00:03:13You wanted an economy where they couldn't really get jobs.
00:03:16You wanted an economy where the price of real estate kept going up and up.
00:03:21And so, in return, you don't get any grandkids.
00:03:26And it's the end of your line.
00:03:29But enjoy your net worth, Grandma.
00:03:31Oof.
00:03:32And it was like, oh, God, that just...
00:03:35Shiv straight to the widowmaker.
00:03:38And I thought...
00:03:40That was one of these horrendously, bitterly, bitterly accurate...
00:03:46Right?
00:03:47Enjoy your net worth, Grandma, because you pillaged the next generation.
00:03:52I mean, every generation is handed a kind of baton, right?
00:03:56Just keep it going.
00:03:58Just keep it going.
00:03:59And the boomers were the generation, for a variety of reasons, which we can talk about.
00:04:04And it wasn't all their fault, of course, right?
00:04:06I mean, they inherited a society just as everyone else does.
00:04:08But the boomers were the first people to put, at least in Western history,
00:04:16the boomers were the first people to put sentiment above virtue,
00:04:23to put hedonism above integrity,
00:04:27and to substitute the worship of God, history, and culture,
00:04:33they substituted the worship of the self, the nerve endings, and the greed.
00:04:39They were the ultimate materialists.
00:04:43The Western tradition, I mean, certainly the Christian tradition,
00:04:46is you put virtue above material gain.
00:04:49I mean, this is the whole story of Jesus in the wilderness,
00:04:51tempted by the devil, who offered him the entire world,
00:04:54which is a little bit more than the imaginary tripling of the value of your house.
00:05:00But the Western tradition has been to put virtue over material gain, right?
00:05:08And that's one of the reasons why, in the West, cheating,
00:05:12scamming and cheating and so on, is bad.
00:05:15Whereas in other cultures, it's kind of the norm.
00:05:17Like, if you've ever spent time in other cultures,
00:05:20you'll know that grift and cheating and so on.
00:05:22Because grift and cheating, you know, the sort of scammers from Asia and so on, right?
00:05:27The grift and cheating stuff is putting material gain above integrity,
00:05:31ethics, virtue, honesty, and so on.
00:05:33So the purpose of the Christian tradition, and it's also the...
00:05:38People always say Judeo-Christian.
00:05:41For me, it's more Athenian Christian, right?
00:05:45You wouldn't include Sparta in this.
00:05:47But the Athenian Christian, because both Socrates and Jesus
00:05:51put integrity and virtue above material or social gain.
00:05:56And that's my history, that I put ethics, integrity, and virtue above social gain.
00:06:03The entire purpose of the Greco-Christian ethos is to say that
00:06:11pleasing your conscience is more important than pleasing the world or your flesh.
00:06:18Right?
00:06:19Pleasing the world or your flesh.
00:06:24If you please the world, then you don't have a conscience.
00:06:27You only have obedience.
00:06:29Because when you please the world, you end up being subjugated
00:06:32to the most aggressive opinions of the most bossy and intrusive people.
00:06:37So your conscience then gets captured and controlled and programmed
00:06:40by the worst elements of society, and you end up serving evil,
00:06:43whether you like it or not, whether you want to or not.
00:06:45The moment you start serving people's opinions,
00:06:48then nice people won't inflict their opinions upon you, but bad people will.
00:06:52And therefore, you end up being a puppet of the most corrupt in the world,
00:06:57or at least in your society.
00:07:01And if you subjugate your conscience to the flesh,
00:07:09then you end up being driven by desires,
00:07:15satisfying fleshly desires.
00:07:18So the ultimate example of this would be
00:07:24the drug addict who lies, cheats, and steals in order to feed his addiction.
00:07:29He's feeding his physical preferences, his physical needs, his physical addiction
00:07:33over a virtue and integrity.
00:07:38He wants the shortcut.
00:07:39He wants the easier way of gaining happiness than self-knowledge and virtue.
00:07:47And of course, if you serve the crowd or you serve the flesh,
00:07:54you end up with temporary relief, and long-term, it's hell.
00:08:01And it's not just hell for you.
00:08:02Everyone who serves the crowd and the flesh makes the world hell for not just themselves,
00:08:09which is certainly true, but for everyone.
00:08:15And the only way, really, that we can return to a moral world,
00:08:23and I've been talking about this for decades, right?
00:08:26You may not have heard it put in quite this way before.
00:08:28But the only way that we can return to a moral world
00:08:33is to stop pretending that bad people aren't bad.
00:08:42I mean, this is one of the reasons, and I'm not trying to project my experience into your experience,
00:08:46but this is one of the reasons why I have not talked to my mother in close to a quarter century.
00:08:54Because she did some great evils.
00:08:57And that's not terrible.
00:09:00I mean, I think we've all done wrong or bad things over time.
00:09:03I mean, she's a little bit more than your average median,
00:09:07but she won't admit.
00:09:09She won't admit these things.
00:09:11She won't admit fault.
00:09:13And people who...
00:09:15Excuses are promises of repetition, right?
00:09:17People who won't admit fault are simply promising to repeat the behavior.
00:09:22So I will not pretend that an unrepentant evildoer is a decent and good person.
00:09:34And I will not pretend that the boomers...
00:09:38Now, my mother is not a boomer.
00:09:40She was one of the greatest generation or what they came before,
00:09:43because she was born in 1937, and the boomers only started 1945, 1946.
00:09:48The boomers only started 1945, 1946.
00:09:56But I won't call evil a good.
00:10:02Now, if people have done me a great service,
00:10:05and you know that for the people who support what it is that I do,
00:10:09I thank you, thank you, thank you.
00:10:12And I hope that I show my appreciation often enough,
00:10:15and I hope that I...
00:10:17You know, I've really been a little remiss over the last couple of weeks,
00:10:20so let me just do that again, and I apologize for that.
00:10:23I can't even tell you how much I truly thank you for the support of what it is that I do.
00:10:31It means the world to me.
00:10:33I think it means the world to the future.
00:10:35Though we are a small group of happy few jazz club enthusiasts now,
00:10:40it will be almost infinitely larger in the future,
00:10:44and I really thank you for your support and help.
00:10:48And this doesn't just mean financial.
00:10:50It means your interest, your questions, your concerns, your affection,
00:10:53your spreading of the ideas or of the shows themselves.
00:10:58I'm truly, humbly, and deeply, fanatically grateful for what it is that you're doing.
00:11:04Thank you, and I really want to make sure that you get that and understand that.
00:11:09And I'm sorry that I haven't said that enough over the last couple of weeks.
00:11:13See, I said we all do things that are not ideal from time to time,
00:11:16so sorry for that, but I just wanted to remind you of that and thank you for that.
00:11:22So, this great tidal wave of elderly quicksand requirements.
00:11:30The bill is coming due.
00:11:32The elderly are going to need massive amounts of resources over the next decade,
00:11:39and I mean two stretching it, but definitely over the next decade or two, let's just say.
00:11:46The elderly, the boomers, are going to need enormous amounts of time, energy, resources, money, attention, comfort, care.
00:11:58People can take a very long time to die these days in particular.
00:12:06Particularly if it's, you know, the Alzheimer's and dementia and other things.
00:12:12They can take a very long time to die.
00:12:15There's not a lot of medication that can help.
00:12:18And the amount of time and energy and sleep that you have to sacrifice to help people who are losing their cognitive faculties,
00:12:27or their physical faculties, the amount of time is enormous.
00:12:33It often takes more time and energy to care for the elderly than it does to care for toddlers.
00:12:41The high requirement of birth is to about maybe two years old, maybe two, three years old.
00:12:52But people can take ten or more years of resources.
00:13:01And we men, you know, we have our strengths.
00:13:04One of our weaknesses, of course, is that we don't really see this, because a lot of times,
00:13:09and this is why all the people who are crabbing on women, oh yes, women, blah, blah, blah, so bad.
00:13:14But women often take this bullet, and it is a soft, slow, tissue-tearing bullet that goes on for a decade or more sometimes.
00:13:22Who is it who moves in to take care of the elderly?
00:13:29Who is it who thinks about it, focuses on it, makes sure the appointments are kept,
00:13:32makes sure the dental care is maintained, makes sure that the medicines are taken,
00:13:35makes sure that the scans are done, right?
00:13:38Who is it?
00:13:39It's mostly the women.
00:13:46So, of course, the big question that has to be faced in society with regards to the boomers,
00:13:55and there's no, obviously, there's no central answer, there's just a general trend answer,
00:13:59is have they earned that level of sacrifice from their children?
00:14:10I mean, with regards to your parents, and you've got to think about this ahead of time.
00:14:14I really, really, intensely, strongly suggest that you think about this ahead of time.
00:14:19I'd demand it if I could, but I can't and I won't even if I could, but I would if I could.
00:14:26So before your parents get old, or if they're old before they become infirm and in need of your help,
00:14:37you have to ask yourself, will you be willing to sacrifice five to ten years of your independence
00:14:49and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars for your parents?
00:14:57This is a very, very important question.
00:14:59You need to not wing this.
00:15:01You need to think about this very deeply ahead of time.
00:15:08Very deeply ahead of time.
00:15:13Will you be willing to sacrifice your time, care, attention, peace of mind, sleep, money, career success,
00:15:25time with your own kids in order to dedicate and devote yourself to caring for your elderly parents?
00:15:33So a friend of mine that I grew up with, and was best man at my wedding and we were friends for decades,
00:15:42a friend of mine lived with his mother and his grandmother.
00:15:47Now his grandmother was a singer,
00:15:50and she told us once the story of how she was singing to a burn ward in the Second World War,
00:15:56but they could not applaud because their hands were burned often, right?
00:16:01You shield yourself from the fire, hands were burned,
00:16:03so all they could do was make a hissing sound to show their appreciation.
00:16:08Now, this grandmother lost her mind really over the period of about 10 to 12 years,
00:16:19and she didn't sleep very much, and she thought she was in another time,
00:16:28and she kept referring to my friend as her late husband,
00:16:33and eventually she wasn't even eventually, she lost a lot of her hearing.
00:16:37I remember they had a phone that flashed because she couldn't really hear the phone,
00:16:43and of course her eyesight went, and she still had all of the muscle memory,
00:16:47so she still wanted to cook for everyone, but she would put stuff on the stove,
00:16:52crank up the element, and then it would just, she would forget about it,
00:16:55and go and, you know, pass out because she was tired from not sleeping at night,
00:16:59and it was a constant, constant, I mean the mother couldn't go out,
00:17:06because if she went out, she didn't know if she'd come back to the entire apartment building burnt down to the ground,
00:17:11because the mother had put, her mother had put on some food and forgotten about it,
00:17:15and it had caught fire.
00:17:19She left the fridge door open, which caused the food to spoil,
00:17:22which was very tough on a fixed budget,
00:17:26and this went on for well over a decade.
00:17:34Man, it's rough, and you have to, you really, really have to be deep,
00:17:41and solid, and frank with yourself about whether they've earned it from you,
00:17:52because this is the time of the great reckoning.
00:17:57This is the time of the great reckoning.
00:18:01Now, of course, if your parents were kind, and thoughtful, considerate,
00:18:06and invested in you, and really made their own sacrifices for your happiness,
00:18:11and took care of you, and gave you great advice, and loved you,
00:18:14and you knew just how important you were to them,
00:18:17and how much they enjoyed having you in their lives,
00:18:19and you did, they did all of that wonderful stuff,
00:18:24kudos to them, like wonderful, in my view, in my view, right,
00:18:28in my view, they have deposited when you were younger,
00:18:34you know, did they save for your education?
00:18:38Did they protect you in school if you were being bullied?
00:18:43Did they make sure that you got good food, sunlight, and exercise?
00:18:48Did they put aside their own particular needs and preferences
00:18:52outside of the family in order to take care of you within the family?
00:18:57Or did they kind of neglect you, maybe were aggressive towards you?
00:19:01Did they just come home and watch TV and leave you to fend for yourself?
00:19:04Were you raised by the internet, pornography, and violent video games?
00:19:10Were you fending for yourself out there?
00:19:13Did you have to figure out how to date all on your own?
00:19:16Did you have to figure out life, and circumstances, and progress,
00:19:19and decisions, and careers, and education all on your own?
00:19:25Because life is a series of deposits and withdrawals.
00:19:28Life is a series of deposits and withdrawals.
00:19:32Did they deposit enough goodwill, sacrifice, charity, love,
00:19:39and support, and wisdom?
00:19:41Did they deposit enough of that in your first 20 years or 25 years
00:19:46in order to withdraw for their last 10 or 15 or 20 years?
00:19:56Did they save for their old age?
00:20:02Or did they spend a lot of money on useless things,
00:20:07and then are going to require that you spend your money,
00:20:12which really should be your children, for your children on them?
00:20:16This is a big reckoning, and I'm sorry for this long-winded answer,
00:20:20but this is really, really important.
00:20:22And I say this as a guy.
00:20:24I'm 58 years old, so I'm seeing this.
00:20:27You may not be seeing this.
00:20:28This is hidden from you by the media, right?
00:20:33The resource requirements of elderly parents.
00:20:35I guess there was that movie, The Judge, with Robert Downey Jr.,
00:20:39but it's often not shown.
00:20:43Or if it is shown, it's shown in passing, like some,
00:20:48oh, my gosh, I have Alzheimer's or I have Parkinson's or something,
00:20:53and then there's a sort of flash-forward to the funeral,
00:20:56and it's like, well, that could be a decade, man.
00:20:59And that's a decade from hell.
00:21:03So the great resource requirement is coming.
00:21:06I mean, in some ways, it's already here, but it's coming.
00:21:10For the older boomers, it's coming.
00:21:15It's here, to some degree, for the younger boomers.
00:21:19People are generally okay.
00:21:20If they've been reasonably decent with their health,
00:21:22they're usually okay into their 60s and 70s, mid-70s.
00:21:27You're really starting to see some problems.
00:21:34Particularly when you're a man, life doesn't change much from 20 to 60,
00:21:39in terms of your body.
00:21:40I mean, you lose your hair or whatever it is.
00:21:41But for me, at least, I'm pretty much just, I mean,
00:21:44I weigh a little bit less now than I did when I was in my 20s.
00:21:49But I can do pretty much the same stuff as a whole.
00:21:55So we don't really get the passage of time when we see our elders,
00:22:01and this is what, you know, when I talk to people about,
00:22:04you're not marrying a woman, you're marrying a clan, a family, right?
00:22:10You're marrying a woman.
00:22:11You have to think about with her parents, right?
00:22:15If her parents are mean or selfish or whatever it is, aggressive, abusive,
00:22:20well, you are going to be asked as a man to give up your wife
00:22:25for 5 to 10 years when they get old so she can take care of them.
00:22:30Will you be happy with that?
00:22:32Is that fair, right, and just?
00:22:34If your parents dumped you in daycare and went off to work
00:22:37and let strangers raise you and the Internet raise you,
00:22:40what do you owe them when they get old?
00:22:45Now, I can't tell you your feelings, of course, right?
00:22:48The last thing I'd want to do in the world is tell you what you feel.
00:22:52But what I always want to do is tell you you are free
00:22:59to be just outside of rank sentimentality.
00:23:05I always want you, as I always want myself, I always want you to make a choice.
00:23:11Make a choice.
00:23:13Don't just be on the train tracks of,
00:23:15well, I have to take care of these people who didn't take care of me.
00:23:17Really? Really.
00:23:20So you are going to reward with a million dollars worth of time, effort, energy,
00:23:25and money, a million dollars to people who barely invested in you
00:23:29and ignored you and neglected you if that's what happened as a child.
00:23:36Neglect is one of the worst forms of abuse.
00:23:39And if you were neglected as a child,
00:23:42you were socially, romantically crippled for some time
00:23:49because you had to try to figure out how to interact with people
00:23:54when you were barely interacted with at home.
00:24:01So if your parents put you in daycare,
00:24:10then what is the fair response?
00:24:13I mean, from a couple of months of age or maybe even a couple of weeks.
00:24:16A couple of months of age, your parents put you in daycare.
00:24:21Well, if you hire someone to take care of your parents
00:24:26paying an inflation-adjusted equivalent of daycare,
00:24:31would they be fine with that?
00:24:34Would they be fine with a series of strangers
00:24:36who probably didn't speak their language very well?
00:24:39Would they be fine with a series of strangers taking care of them
00:24:43which you were paying for?
00:24:48Or would they say, no, I want you to take care of me?
00:24:54How do we get people to improve
00:25:01if they never suffer any negative consequences for bad behavior?
00:25:08If bad people get all of your resources
00:25:11despite having done bad things and being unapologetic for them
00:25:17or only apologizing when they need something,
00:25:20fine, I'm sorry, now come move in, or I want to move in with you.
00:25:23I'm sorry, oh, fine.
00:25:25That's not credible, right?
00:25:32And even if your parents personally were nice to you
00:25:37and loving and affectionate,
00:25:40there is still the question of the national debt.
00:25:45Even one of many problems that the boomers voted into existence,
00:25:50there is still a problem with the national debt.
00:25:54See, I'm young enough, sorry, I'm old enough to remember
00:26:00when the boomers were in charge,
00:26:02you couldn't tell them a goddamn thing.
00:26:06You couldn't tell them.
00:26:07When the boomers were in charge of the public schools,
00:26:10when the boomers were in charge of the media,
00:26:12when the boomers were in charge of higher education,
00:26:15you couldn't tell them smack.
00:26:17They wouldn't listen to anything.
00:26:23They were absolutely certain that they were 100% moral
00:26:28and anyone and everyone who disagreed with their assessment
00:26:31or had counter evidence was bad and evil
00:26:38and had to be punished.
00:26:45So it's easy to feel a lot of sympathy for people
00:26:48when they get old and they're frail,
00:26:51but that's only if you forget what they were like
00:26:54when they were younger and in power.
00:27:00In power.
00:27:05If you were taught by boomers, were you ever allowed to disagree?
00:27:11I mean, I remember taking a course on race relations in university
00:27:17and, of course, the boomer teacher, this white guy, was all about,
00:27:20oh, it's all racism, blah, blah, blah, and I said,
00:27:22well, you know, but West African blacks come to America
00:27:24and have a higher per capita income even than whites.
00:27:26How do you explain that?
00:27:28Wouldn't listen.
00:27:29Oh, because slavery.
00:27:30It's like, well, but, you know,
00:27:31slavery occurred on the African continent and blah, blah, blah.
00:27:33You know, like you just couldn't tell them anything.
00:27:36It was like talking to a television.
00:27:41You couldn't tell them anything.
00:27:44They didn't listen.
00:27:49So when I asked boomers to listen and at least debate
00:27:54rather than just give me these pre-programmed NPC answers.
00:28:02And that guy, I mean, I remember this.
00:28:04This happened a lot, right?
00:28:05I'm sure you've all experienced it.
00:28:07That guy marked me down quite a bit just for disagreeing with him,
00:28:10you know, based on reason and evidence.
00:28:12These are interesting and important questions.
00:28:18I mean, if you ever tried bringing up something like the bell curve
00:28:21with a boomer professors, right?
00:28:31So the boomers in general, and this was very common across the older,
00:28:38the older, older professors were more reasonable.
00:28:40And I could see that difference.
00:28:41The older professors, you could disagree with them
00:28:43and it was more reasonable.
00:28:44But the boomer professors and teachers, no way.
00:28:48You couldn't, you couldn't tell them a goddamn thing.
00:28:51They knew everything.
00:28:52They were perfect and they were moral.
00:28:54And if you disagreed with them, it wasn't just a difference of opinion.
00:28:56You were a bad person.
00:28:58You were a bad person for disagreeing with the boomers.
00:29:02And I found this to be consistent.
00:29:05You know, as you know, I went to school in three different countries
00:29:09and have talked to a lot of people over the years, as you know,
00:29:14and it's consistent.
00:29:15They don't listen.
00:29:17They have their perspectives and there's this weird freaky ripple
00:29:23of the universe matrix style tension if you contradict them at all.
00:29:29And you know that the boomers are still massively influencing politics
00:29:34because the one thing you don't hear squat about over the course
00:29:38of any debates in politics is the national debt.
00:29:48And you can't talk about the national debt because the national debt
00:29:53is an absolute savage hacking and breaking of the social covenant
00:30:00between the generations.
00:30:07To be so greedy for pretend virtue that you are willing to enslave
00:30:13your children to a million dollars plus of debt to foreign banksters
00:30:18is unholy and corrupt, almost beyond words.
00:30:23And this is why it really can't be talked about.
00:30:25You can't talk about the national debt.
00:30:27I mean, people try, but the national debt should be gnawing
00:30:30at the conscience of the boomers and they would say,
00:30:32well, my gosh, what have we done?
00:30:37And it should have been gnawing at them all the way along.
00:30:39They should have said, oh, my gosh, we have to vote in a politician
00:30:42who's going to rein in their spending because this is utterly unfair
00:30:46to our children to hand them the smoking wreckage of a formerly glorious
00:30:51economy that we've pillaged for our moral narcissism.
00:30:57Fields over reels.
00:30:59Virtue signaling over debt enslavement.
00:31:04And a few people tried.
00:31:05Ross Perot tried to talk about this and he was rejected.
00:31:16You can't say to the boomers, make some sacrifices for the sake
00:31:20of the next generation.
00:31:21You just can't.
00:31:22I mean, you can say it, but then you're corrupt and evil and bad
00:31:25and evil.
00:31:26I mean, there's a viciousness to the boomers,
00:31:27which I've sort of experienced, right?
00:31:29There's a viciousness to the boomers that if you try and take away
00:31:32their moral self-congratulation, they will F you up.
00:31:41I mean, of course, the boomers, the moment the debt started
00:31:43to really show up, the boomers should have been like, oh, my gosh,
00:31:46we can't do this to the next generation.
00:31:48Let's get together and let's cut.
00:31:50What can we cut?
00:31:51Where can we cut?
00:31:52Politicians would gain massive traction for talking about the national
00:31:59debt and how to reign it in.
00:32:05But you can't talk about that because that brings a vague,
00:32:10whispery sense of mathematical reality to people whose greed for the
00:32:15unearned knows no bounds.
00:32:18Through the national debt, the boomers have stolen from the next
00:32:21generation more wealth than has ever been produced in human history
00:32:25prior to the boomers.
00:32:27It has been absolutely the biggest wealth transfer in the history of
00:32:32humanity.
00:32:33It dwarfs any other prior theft.
00:32:36Through the national debt and the unfunded liabilities,
00:32:40$180, $200, $220 trillion, 15 times the size of the entire economy.
00:32:48Through the national debt, the boomers have stolen more from the next
00:32:52generation than has ever been produced in human history.
00:32:55It is the biggest theft in human history.
00:32:57Even if we just count the national debt and the unfunded liabilities with
00:33:01all the other liabilities.
00:33:07So this is the big question.
00:33:11I don't have the answer.
00:33:12I have my answer.
00:33:13I don't have your answer.
00:33:14I just wanted to raise this as a question.
00:33:20Now, the chance or the opportunity for an apology still exists,
00:33:25but I wouldn't hold my breath.
00:33:27And the apology would go something like this.
00:33:30Well, we inherited a pretty good economy with great growth,
00:33:34and we could have three to four to five to six kids with only one person
00:33:38working, and you could afford a nice home and a car and health insurance
00:33:45and be able to save for your retirement.
00:33:47And there was upward mobility and relatively low debt.
00:33:52We took that and we eviscerated it.
00:33:55We gutted it.
00:33:56We fed upon it.
00:33:57We feasted upon it like vampires at a Lady Gaga party.
00:34:03We're really sorry.
00:34:05And I know that this apology comes so late in the game that it seems suspicious.
00:34:10Now that we're in desperate need of your help and support and resources,
00:34:14you're eyeing us.
00:34:15Suspiciously, you're giving us the side eye because it's like, oh,
00:34:19you'll need a bunch of stuff from me now.
00:34:22Well, you dumped me in daycare.
00:34:24You ignored me for most of my childhood.
00:34:25You chased the almighty dollar.
00:34:29You were fine with open borders.
00:34:31You were fine with unfunded liabilities.
00:34:33You were fine with national debts.
00:34:34In fact, anybody who questioned any of this stuff was apparently evil
00:34:38and to be destroyed.
00:34:39And now you want a bunch of stuff.
00:34:47They are asking to invoke the covenant of the generations while not having,
00:34:52as a collective themselves, upheld the covenant of the generations.
00:34:56One of the covenants of the generations is invest in your young
00:34:59and don't rob them fucking blind.
00:35:02I mean, that's a covenant of the generations, isn't it?
00:35:04Invest in your young, invest in your offspring, and don't rob them blind.
00:35:09And if you can't make the world better than you found it,
00:35:11at least don't make it almost infinitely worse because the boomers have
00:35:17bequeathed to the next generations a system that is mathematically impossible
00:35:27to continue.
00:35:31Why?
00:35:32Because they wanted to feel good.
00:35:36And this is the fall of Christianity, and there was a lot of alphabet agency
00:35:41programming.
00:35:42I get all of that, but boomers held me accountable, man.
00:35:46Boomers held me responsible, and they held me accountable.
00:35:50They did, and I'm sure that was the case with you.
00:35:53So when I was a kid, the boomer teachers, the boomer principals and vice
00:35:58principals and administrators and professors and people in the media,
00:36:03they all held me accountable.
00:36:05If I didn't study for the test, they failed me.
00:36:09When I was 6 years old, 10 years old, 14 years old,
00:36:13and I was threatened with being held back a year,
00:36:16so you're the big kid in the back of the class,
00:36:18everyone thinks you're on the short bus, and you lose a year of your life
00:36:21repeating stuff that is hell.
00:36:24So I was held to account when I was in the slim single digits as a child.
00:36:35If I didn't do the required reading, I was failed.
00:36:39If I didn't pass the test, I was threatened with losing a year of my life,
00:36:43and it happened.
00:36:44I saw it.
00:36:45I know it's less common now, but when I was a kid, that was the deal.
00:36:48When I was a kid, as you know, in boarding school,
00:36:51when our football went over a fence into the sanatorium garden,
00:36:58I climbed the fence to go and get the ball when I was 6 years old,
00:37:03and I was knocked on by some prefect,
00:37:05and then I was dragged up to the headmaster's office where I was caned.
00:37:12So that is the level of responsibility and punishment
00:37:20that I was held to account at at the age of 6.
00:37:24And my father sent me to the boarding school and paid for it,
00:37:27so he was in approval of it.
00:37:28He would be a boomer too, although he's passed on.
00:37:32So as a kid, I was held to absolute brutal account as a little kid,
00:37:426 years old, on the other side of the country.
00:37:49I was humiliated for not doing my homework,
00:37:52even though I lived in a household where homework was virtually impossible to do
00:37:56because of the violence and the noise and the chaos,
00:38:03and the strange men padding around in unholy garb.
00:38:07So I was held to account, and even though I was a kid
00:38:10and even though I was not responsible for my own circumstances,
00:38:12I was held to damn account.
00:38:19I mean, deplatforming is largely a boomer phenomenon.
00:38:23I'm not saying, of course, that everyone who makes those decisions is a boomer,
00:38:26but the boomers hold most of the investment wealth,
00:38:28and if the boomers said, we don't want deplatforming to occur,
00:38:31deplatforming would not occur.
00:38:33If the boomers said, well, we're going to disinvest in any company that deplatforms,
00:38:36deplatforming would not occur.
00:38:38So the deplatforming is also facilitated by the boomers.
00:38:41They could stop it tomorrow if they wanted.
00:38:44They could just simply instruct their investment advisors to sell
00:38:51the shares of any company that engaged in deplatforming.
00:38:58Under boomers, what did we lose?
00:39:00Well, we lost free speech.
00:39:04We lost borders.
00:39:07We lost educational attainment.
00:39:10We lost standards. We lost IQ tests.
00:39:13We lost financial integrity.
00:39:16We lost affordable real estate.
00:39:20I mean, I said the story before.
00:39:22If you haven't, I'll keep it really brief.
00:39:24I remember talking to a boomer who was talking about, in the 1960s,
00:39:29he made a salary of $9,000 a year as a teacher,
00:39:32and he was able to buy a nice house in the city for $12,000,
00:39:38which means, let's say the teachers make $90,000 now,
00:39:42you should be able to buy a nice house in the city for $120,000
00:39:46rather than well over a million.
00:39:48So the boomers are bribed with imaginary money
00:39:52through rising real estate values,
00:39:56even though relative to gold, nothing's been gained.
00:39:59And they think themselves wealthy because somebody
00:40:01stuffed a bunch of monopoly money down their diapers.
00:40:09What do we do with generations who break the covenant?
00:40:12I don't know. I don't know the answer to that.
00:40:14I know my answer to that, but I don't know your answer to that
00:40:17because everybody's individual.
00:40:19The collective circumstance is largely one,
00:40:21although, of course, there have been lots of noble boomers
00:40:23who fought against all of this predation,
00:40:25intergenerational predation and theft.
00:40:30And, you know, if I had enthusiastically seal clapped
00:40:37for a system that pillaged the next generation
00:40:40to within an inch of its financial survival and beyond,
00:40:43I'd be a little fucking embarrassed to ask for more money
00:40:46and demand more money and get enraged
00:40:48and try to destroy anyone who said,
00:40:51maybe you guys should pay some of the debt
00:40:55that you have accumulated as voters
00:40:57and as participants in the social system.
00:40:59Because the boomers always told me that you vote
00:41:02because then the system reflects the preferences of the people.
00:41:05You've got a democracy.
00:41:07And the system represents the will of the people.
00:41:10Voting is important. Voting is magical.
00:41:12Voting is wonderful. Voting is good.
00:41:15That's what I was always told.
00:41:17So I accept that boomers are responsible for the system
00:41:21because they all told me that they were.
00:41:23And they told me that I had to vote or I couldn't complain.
00:41:27So, yeah, I accept that.
00:41:30Any time I brought up any objections
00:41:32to the democratic mass voting way of doing things,
00:41:35I was told, no, no, no, it's the best system.
00:41:37It reflects the will of the people, and any other system is evil.
00:41:42Okay, so if all the boomers told me
00:41:44that voting reflects the will of the people,
00:41:46then boomers are 100% responsible for the system.
00:41:51That's what they taught me.
00:41:53I just take people at their face value.
00:41:55I take people at what they say.
00:41:58I accept it.
00:42:00I'm just listening.
00:42:02Boomers don't, but I do.
00:42:07So you should think about this ahead of time
00:42:10if you have aging parents.
00:42:12If you can fix the relationship,
00:42:14if the relationship is dysfunctional in some manner,
00:42:17if you can fix the relationship, fantastic.
00:42:19I would suggest really, really working hard
00:42:21to try and fix the relationship.
00:42:23If you can't fix the relationship,
00:42:25then you have to ask yourself,
00:42:27do I want to spend a million dollars?
00:42:29Because it will be that.
00:42:31I'm not saying directly you transfer a million dollars,
00:42:34but what I am saying is that
00:42:37when you start caring for aging parents,
00:42:42you lose a lot of time and effort and energy,
00:42:45and it interferes with your earning potential.
00:42:47I'm not saying earning potential is all that there is.
00:42:50I'm just saying that this is the case,
00:42:53that you are going to have to sacrifice a lot
00:42:57to take care of aging parents.
00:42:59And this is going to be a battle between males and females.
00:43:11Males say, males say, men say,
00:43:14that negative actions accrues negative consequences.
00:43:18You don't give up your lung
00:43:20to a guy who damaged his lung by smoking.
00:43:29Negative actions accrue negative consequences,
00:43:32and we have to let that happen.
00:43:34Otherwise, we just make society worse.
00:43:37I mean, if we pay people who shoplift
00:43:40a million dollars for shoplifting,
00:43:42then I guess the individual shoplifters
00:43:45for about five minutes are very happy,
00:43:47but then there's no goods, no stores, no economy,
00:43:50and half the people starve to death.
00:43:52So that doesn't work, now does it?
00:43:55So we men say negative actions accrue negative consequences,
00:44:05and we got to let that happen.
00:44:07Otherwise, civilization falls apart.
00:44:11If you don't save for your retirement,
00:44:15well, you're going to have a very uncomfortable life.
00:44:20Should we take all the money
00:44:22from the people who did save for retirement
00:44:24and give it to those who didn't save for retirement?
00:44:27Well, that solves things in the hedonistic here and now.
00:44:30But what happens in the long run
00:44:32if we take all the money from the people who saved for retirement
00:44:35and give it to people who didn't save for retirement?
00:44:37Everybody stops saving for retirement,
00:44:39and the world fucking collapses.
00:44:46You know, I saw this tweet,
00:44:50and it was a question like,
00:44:51when did you first get your self-esteem crushed, right?
00:44:58And it was one of these, you know, little Reddit bullet point stories,
00:45:03and it was like, you know, be me, 14 years old, I go to a party.
00:45:08The kids want to play spin the bottle,
00:45:10and the girls say, well, we'll play spin the bottle,
00:45:14and they point at me and say,
00:45:15but if he wins, we only have to hug him.
00:45:18Okay, so then they play spin the bottle,
00:45:20the bottle points, the girl spins the bottle,
00:45:22and it points at this guy who's telling the story,
00:45:24and he sort of leans forward to give her a hug,
00:45:27and she backs away and says, I don't want to play anymore.
00:45:30And then the girls all say, in solidarity,
00:45:32they don't want to play spin the bottle anymore.
00:45:34So then this kid goes into the bathroom, calls his mom,
00:45:36mom comes to pick him up.
00:45:38He hides in the bathroom for a while until his mom gets there,
00:45:40and then when he's walking out for his mom to pick him up,
00:45:42he looks over and he sees all the kids
00:45:45are playing spin the bottle because he's not there, right?
00:45:48And the comments were divided in males and females, right?
00:45:51The females all said, oh, I'm so sorry.
00:45:53Oh, that's so sad.
00:45:54Oh, they were so mean.
00:45:55That's so terrible.
00:45:56Blah, blah, blah, big hugs.
00:45:57And the men were all like, well,
00:45:59I guess that was your signal to go to the gym
00:46:01and brush your teeth more or whatever, right?
00:46:07Now, there's nothing wrong with women.
00:46:09Beautiful.
00:46:10Women are beautiful.
00:46:11You can't let negative consequences accrue to individuals
00:46:14because women take care of babies and toddlers,
00:46:17and you can't let negative consequences accrue to babies and toddlers
00:46:20because they die, right?
00:46:23So a woman is programmed that when she feels discomfort,
00:46:26she will sacrifice the future in order to comfort in the present.
00:46:30If the new mom is tired and the baby wakes up crying,
00:46:34she goes and takes care of the baby,
00:46:36even though she's going to be even more tired the next day.
00:46:38So she sacrifices the future for the sake of comfort in the present.
00:46:41That is absolutely beautiful.
00:46:43It's wonderful.
00:46:44It's why we're all here.
00:46:45Love the ladies for that.
00:46:46Thank you all so much for your multi-hundred-thousand-year service.
00:46:51I appreciate that.
00:46:52Thank you so much.
00:47:00And that's fine for babies and toddlers.
00:47:02It's not fine for grown-ass adults.
00:47:09And this is not a conversation that society is really having at the moment,
00:47:13and it's a conversation that, of course, the boomers really don't want to have.
00:47:17Of course, of course, I get it.
00:47:23If I exploited people to hell and back,
00:47:27well, just to hell, not even back,
00:47:29if I exploited the hell out of people,
00:47:31I wouldn't want them questioning whether they liked me either.
00:47:39And then it's like, well, but if they get old,
00:47:43who's going to take care of them if not me?
00:47:45Well, that's not what a lot of the boomers said about their babies.
00:47:50They just put them into institutions.
00:47:54They put them into government-run, controlled, licensed daycares,
00:47:57or maybe not even.
00:47:58I mean, I remember going to, I shouldn't laugh,
00:48:00but I remember when my mom wanted to go out on her dates,
00:48:05endless dates with endless trash bags masquerading as men,
00:48:10I was sometimes dropped off at just this woman's house,
00:48:14and she'd just sit and smoke and watch daytime TV
00:48:16while the kids went feral at her footsteps.
00:48:23It wasn't even a daycare.
00:48:26I remember she'd just shake tins of beans into bowls,
00:48:29throw some spoons on the table,
00:48:31and it would be a feeding frenzy of blood, mat, and sharks
00:48:38on the Heinz bowl of maybe this will help me live through the day.
00:48:45So, yeah, I was very Dickensian in many ways.
00:48:50And then I was at a boarding school that was perpetually cold.
00:48:54There were water shortages at the boarding school.
00:48:56There were meat shortages.
00:48:58We ate a whole lot of doughy crap chemical bread
00:49:02and had one little cup of water.
00:49:07So I could get by on that, right?
00:49:09I could get by on that.
00:49:10They can get by on whatever.
00:49:13I mean, they'll have to sell their house,
00:49:15and they'll have to put their savings
00:49:20into paying strangers to take care of them
00:49:22just as they paid strangers to take care of their children.
00:49:24How could they object?
00:49:28I mean, on what rational grounds?
00:49:31Well, but it's different. It's not different.
00:49:33In fact, if you are old,
00:49:37and you haven't sown enough goodwill
00:49:40in your society, community, and family
00:49:44for people to take care of you,
00:49:46that's been your choice.
00:49:47The babies didn't have a goddamn choice at all.
00:49:50Babies didn't have a single shred of a choice
00:49:52in any way, shape, or form.
00:49:54They were just unceremoniously dumped
00:49:55like a sack of potatoes into a daycare
00:49:59because the parents wanted to chase
00:50:01the almighty dollar and self-actualize.
00:50:05Okay.
00:50:06But, you know, well, I didn't want to be
00:50:08just be a stay-at-home mom.
00:50:09I didn't want to be a broodmare.
00:50:11I didn't want to just wipe children's asses.
00:50:12It's like, okay, well, I don't want to
00:50:14wipe your ass when you're old
00:50:15because clearly that's beneath me.
00:50:18And you chose to have children.
00:50:20I didn't choose to have parents.
00:50:22It's a little different.
00:50:24You made a choice and abandoned that choice.
00:50:26I never made a choice to have you as parents.
00:50:32But I don't know if the world is even
00:50:33remotely ready for that kind of conversation.
00:50:36So.
00:50:40Why is it that family members,
00:50:41says this person,
00:50:45particularly my brother,
00:50:46acts like, woe is me,
00:50:47when asked to do anything to help
00:50:48our elderly parents.
00:50:50Okay.
00:50:55So.
00:50:58Who raised your brother?
00:51:02Who raised your brother?
00:51:04Let's say your brother is this
00:51:06selfish and mean and incomprehensibly bad,
00:51:09and, right, let's just say,
00:51:10let's just say that's the case.
00:51:15And I just remind you that
00:51:17you know that what I'm speaking
00:51:19is silvery, shivery gold
00:51:22and can absolutely liberate you
00:51:24for years or decades
00:51:26from utterly unjust obligations.
00:51:29And I do think,
00:51:30and I think it's reasonable to ask,
00:51:32just remember to tip.
00:51:34If you're listening to this later,
00:51:35you know this is absolute,
00:51:37life-saving,
00:51:38almost infinitely liberating,
00:51:40sheer platinum gold.
00:51:43So if you can tip,
00:51:44I would really, really appreciate it.
00:51:45Just think of how much money you might save.
00:51:48So, yeah, who raised your brother?
00:51:53Who raised your brother?
00:51:58And how do you know
00:52:00your brother is wrong?
00:52:04How do you know?
00:52:05Listen to people you disagree with.
00:52:07It's really important.
00:52:08Listen to...
00:52:11Why is your brother...
00:52:12Let's say your brother is so, so selfish.
00:52:16Who raised him?
00:52:18Right?
00:52:19Who raised him?
00:52:20Who taught him that?
00:52:23Did his parents...
00:52:26Genuinely, did your parents
00:52:28genuinely sacrifice
00:52:30their own interests
00:52:31for the sake of making your brother
00:52:33understand how loved, treasured,
00:52:35worshipped, and adored he is?
00:52:39Did your parents
00:52:40genuinely sacrifice
00:52:42their own interests
00:52:44for the sake of making your brother
00:52:45understand how loved, treasured,
00:52:46worshipped, and adored he is?
00:52:47My God.
00:52:48This sibling-turning-on-sibling stuff
00:52:50is absolutely terrible.
00:52:51And I put that terribleness on you
00:52:53because you've listened to this show for a while.
00:52:54You've been here before.
00:52:57Why don't you talk to your brother
00:52:58and ask him
00:52:59what he dislikes so much
00:53:00about your parents?
00:53:02Maybe he's got a perspective.
00:53:04Maybe he's older.
00:53:05Maybe he was abused.
00:53:06Maybe they failed to protect him
00:53:07in some manner.
00:53:08Maybe he was
00:53:09sexually assaulted by some
00:53:11uncle that you don't know.
00:53:12Maybe there's some reason
00:53:14why he doesn't want to help
00:53:16your parents.
00:53:21Why don't you try
00:53:22listening to him
00:53:24instead of condemning him?
00:53:29Because your parents
00:53:32seem to be relatively content
00:53:35letting you
00:53:36and your brother
00:53:40crab at each other
00:53:42almost infinitely
00:53:43forever and ever.
00:53:44Amen.
00:53:46So, if your parents
00:53:47were good
00:53:48in my opinion
00:53:49I don't know the details
00:53:50and I'm happy to do a call
00:53:51in showfreedomain.com
00:53:52slash call
00:53:53but if your parents
00:53:54were good
00:53:55here's what they would do.
00:53:57They would say
00:53:58yes, your brother
00:53:59is being quite difficult.
00:54:01I understand that.
00:54:02Let me tell you
00:54:03why I think
00:54:04that could be.
00:54:06We did this.
00:54:07We did.
00:54:08We kept you home
00:54:09but we put him in daycare.
00:54:10He's got some
00:54:11valid complaints.
00:54:12You know, we moved
00:54:13a lot of times
00:54:14when he was just
00:54:15in the process of trying
00:54:16to form social bonds
00:54:17and we never explained
00:54:18anything to him
00:54:19and we never asked him
00:54:20about anything
00:54:21and then at the new school
00:54:22he was bullied.
00:54:23We didn't really do
00:54:24anything about it.
00:54:25Like, maybe he's got
00:54:26some reasons.
00:54:27People aren't just
00:54:28causelessly terrible
00:54:29as a whole.
00:54:31Right?
00:54:32People, I mean
00:54:33I hope that I've got
00:54:34you know, thousands
00:54:35of conversations
00:54:36with people about
00:54:37their absolute deepest
00:54:38rootest issues.
00:54:39People aren't just
00:54:40causelessly terrible.
00:54:41I mean, they make
00:54:42bad decisions.
00:54:43Don't get me wrong.
00:54:44But it doesn't just
00:54:45come out of nowhere
00:54:46and what you're doing
00:54:47is you're sitting up
00:54:48on your high horse
00:54:49and you're like
00:54:50well, I'm good
00:54:51because I'm helping
00:54:52my parents
00:54:53and my brother is bad
00:54:54because he's selfish
00:54:55and complains.
00:54:57I'm just good
00:54:58and he's just bad
00:54:59and I'm better
00:55:00and he's worse
00:55:01and I'm the victim
00:55:02and he's the perpetrator
00:55:03and I'm moral
00:55:04and he's corrupt
00:55:05and I'm helpful
00:55:06and he's not.
00:55:07Like, oh my god.
00:55:10So that means
00:55:11that you've been raised
00:55:12by your parents
00:55:15to sit on your
00:55:16moral high horse
00:55:17condemn others
00:55:19and feel
00:55:20almost infinitely smug
00:55:21about how good you are.
00:55:31And maybe
00:55:32so you have the theory
00:55:33that maybe your brother
00:55:34is this selfish
00:55:35and terrible person
00:55:36but your parents
00:55:37had absolutely
00:55:38nothing to do with it.
00:55:39The elderly
00:55:40blue rinse angels
00:55:41they were just
00:55:42absolutely perfect
00:55:43and wonderful parents
00:55:46and just mysteriously
00:55:47your brother turned out
00:55:48to be kind of selfish.
00:55:52But of course
00:55:53if your parents
00:55:54were good parents
00:55:55they would be
00:55:56working hard
00:55:57to heal the rift
00:55:58between you and your brother
00:55:59and they would be
00:56:00sitting down
00:56:01with your brother
00:56:02like absolute
00:56:03grown ass adults
00:56:04they'd be sitting down
00:56:05with your brother
00:56:06and they'd say
00:56:07look, you have an issue
00:56:08with us.
00:56:09Like, we get it.
00:56:10We see it.
00:56:11I mean, we hear about it
00:56:12from your sibling, right?
00:56:13We get it.
00:56:14And, you know,
00:56:15clearly you don't want
00:56:16to help us
00:56:17and you have
00:56:18some hostility
00:56:19and negativity
00:56:20towards us
00:56:21which we as the parents
00:56:22I mean, we have to
00:56:23look at our own
00:56:24causality here
00:56:25because we're the parents
00:56:26we define the entire
00:56:27relationship
00:56:28for decades
00:56:30so
00:56:31please
00:56:32tell us
00:56:33what the issue is
00:56:34tell us where
00:56:35our deficiencies were
00:56:36here's the list
00:56:37like, I'm just sort of
00:56:38objectively looking
00:56:39and here's the list
00:56:40that we've come up with
00:56:41because you don't want to
00:56:42show up to meetings
00:56:43where you say to people
00:56:44what am I doing wrong
00:56:45well, what am I doing wrong?
00:56:46I have no idea
00:56:47you'll just have to tell me
00:56:49because I'm such an
00:56:50innocent, virtuous
00:56:51little angel
00:56:52that I've scanned
00:56:53and I've scanned
00:56:54over decades, you see
00:56:55and I just can't find
00:56:56anything that I could
00:56:57conceivably have done wrong
00:56:58but if there's something
00:56:59right on the edge
00:57:00of the universe
00:57:01beyond the pale
00:57:02of human thought
00:57:03that we've somehow
00:57:04mistakenly overcome
00:57:05we're happy
00:57:07bleh
00:57:08so why aren't your
00:57:09parents fixing this?
00:57:10why aren't your parents
00:57:11sitting down with your
00:57:12brother and trying to
00:57:13sort this stuff out?
00:57:14no
00:57:15they're goading you
00:57:16into hating on
00:57:17your brother
00:57:19good job
00:57:20well done
00:57:21well done
00:57:22excellent
00:57:23you've now been turned
00:57:24against your sibling
00:57:25because your parents
00:57:26are so great
00:57:27hmm
00:57:28that is a messed up
00:57:29family, man
00:57:30that is a messed up
00:57:31family
00:57:32alright
00:57:33sorry, I know
00:57:34it's been a long speech
00:57:35but worthwhile
00:57:38but worthwhile
00:57:42let's get to your
00:57:44questions, comments, issues
00:57:46and again, tips
00:57:49the boomers will find out
00:57:50that their goodwill
00:57:51is as negative as
00:57:52the national debt
00:57:53they pushed
00:57:54yeah, well of course
00:57:55a lot of people are
00:57:56going to hang out
00:57:57with the boomers
00:57:58for inheritance
00:57:59and because they're
00:58:00so desperate for property
00:58:01they have to wait
00:58:02for the boomers to die
00:58:03to get their houses
00:58:04virtue and integrity
00:58:06this is a fucking
00:58:07cult of niceness
00:58:09oh, virtue is just
00:58:10about being nice
00:58:11no
00:58:12virtue is about
00:58:13being just
00:58:14and justice sucks
00:58:15a lot of the time
00:58:18justice bites
00:58:19hairy greased donkey
00:58:20balls a lot of the time
00:58:21it's hard
00:58:26yeah, the science
00:58:27has always settled
00:58:28with the boomers
00:58:29yeah
00:58:30well, and COVID
00:58:31was driven by the boomers
00:58:32right
00:58:34the lockdowns and all
00:58:35right
00:58:37we're frightened
00:58:38yeah, I remember
00:58:39when Steph got kicked
00:58:40out of the city council
00:58:41in California
00:58:42by asking about
00:58:43the city debt
00:58:44it wasn't the national debt
00:58:45yeah, I just asked
00:58:46how they're going to
00:58:47pay for all this stuff
00:58:48and they did not want
00:58:49to talk
00:58:50yeah, this cult
00:58:51of niceness
00:58:52so there's this experiment
00:58:53I don't know if you've
00:58:54ever heard of it
00:58:55but there's an experiment
00:58:56the salty jello experiment
00:58:58salty jello is not
00:58:59the worst name for
00:59:00a scar band
00:59:01but anyway
00:59:02so the salty jello
00:59:03so they got a bunch
00:59:04of 5 year old boys
00:59:05and girls
00:59:06and they offered them
00:59:07jello
00:59:08and they had baked
00:59:09a massive amount
00:59:10of salt
00:59:11like an eye watering
00:59:12amount of
00:59:13lip pinching salt
00:59:14into the jello
00:59:16and
00:59:17the girls
00:59:18were all like
00:59:19mmm
00:59:20it's
00:59:21it's salty
00:59:22but I like salt
00:59:23thank you
00:59:24they were all just
00:59:26lying
00:59:27right, lying
00:59:29and what did
00:59:30the boys say
00:59:31oh, this is gross
00:59:32it's salty
00:59:33ew
00:59:34right
00:59:35they told the truth
00:59:37now let's play
00:59:38this out, right
00:59:39so let's say
00:59:40that
00:59:41you make jello
00:59:42for kids
00:59:43you're the mom
00:59:44and you accidentally
00:59:45put a bunch of salt
00:59:46into the jello
00:59:47and your daughter
00:59:48says I love this
00:59:49this is great
00:59:50I like salt
00:59:51and you're going to
00:59:52keep adding salt
00:59:53to her jello
00:59:54for the next
00:59:554000 years
00:59:56so
00:59:57by not hurting
00:59:58someone's feelings
00:59:59or upsetting someone
01:00:00even if you don't
01:00:01you'll be upset
01:00:02if you say
01:00:03my god, this is crazy salty
01:00:04and the mom tastes it
01:00:05it's like oh my god
01:00:06I must have put salt
01:00:07instead of sugar in
01:00:08oh my gosh
01:00:09you know, thank you
01:00:10don't eat that
01:00:11whatever you do
01:00:15so what happens
01:00:16in society
01:00:17if we put the hedonism
01:00:18of not hurting
01:00:19anyone's feelings
01:00:20in the moment
01:00:21well, you end up with
01:00:23potentially fatal
01:00:25salty jello
01:00:26for the next
01:00:274000 years
01:00:28as opposed to the boys
01:00:29who are like
01:00:30oh my god, this is horrible
01:00:31why is it so salty?
01:00:33ah
01:00:34look at that
01:00:35they've solved the problem
01:00:36and even the researchers
01:00:37were characterizing it
01:00:38as well, you know
01:00:39the girls
01:00:40they just know
01:00:41a bit more about
01:00:42social standards
01:00:43and they just know
01:00:44a bit more about politeness
01:00:45it's like
01:00:46it's a lot of syllables
01:00:47to say they lie
01:00:48through their teeth
01:01:00and when the researcher
01:01:01asked the boy
01:01:02well, didn't it
01:01:03what about the feelings
01:01:04of the person
01:01:05who made the jello?
01:01:06he's like
01:01:07she seemed fine
01:01:08I'm supposed to lie
01:01:09because
01:01:11feels over reals?
01:01:19somebody says
01:01:20yeah, boomers
01:01:21no, nah
01:01:22boomers lived through
01:01:23the 60s
01:01:24they think the peace
01:01:25and love will conquer
01:01:26mathematics
01:01:27the mandatory peace
01:01:28and love of the young
01:01:29boomers don't care
01:01:30what happens
01:01:31to their children
01:01:32or the country
01:01:33it seems
01:01:34as long as they live
01:01:35comfortably
01:01:36till they go the way
01:01:37of the dinosaurs
01:01:43boomers are fine
01:01:44shipping all the
01:01:45manufacturing base
01:01:46to save a couple of bucks
01:01:47yeah, it'd be interesting
01:01:48to say
01:01:49well, we saved
01:01:50a couple of bucks
01:01:51by shipping things
01:01:52to China
01:01:53and in return
01:01:54we got
01:01:55COVID
01:01:56and
01:01:57how was that?
01:01:58well, it saved
01:01:59a couple of bucks
01:02:00here and there
01:02:01but, you see
01:02:02America could easily
01:02:03have closed the borders
01:02:04to COVID
01:02:05if it had had
01:02:06its own manufacturing base
01:02:09you had to have
01:02:10open borders
01:02:11because COVID
01:02:12because the manufacturing
01:02:13base had been
01:02:14shipped overseas
01:02:16also puts you
01:02:17at the mercy
01:02:18of the dock workers
01:02:19right?
01:02:20boy, if that isn't
01:02:21a cue to automate
01:02:22I don't know what is
01:02:23right?
01:02:29as somebody says
01:02:32somebody stop me
01:02:35I think most people
01:02:36who criticize UPB
01:02:37universally preferable
01:02:38behavior
01:02:39check it out
01:02:40freedomain.com
01:02:41slash books
01:02:42it's free
01:02:43think it derives
01:02:44an ought from an is
01:02:45because they don't realize
01:02:46that it's an if-then
01:02:47argument
01:02:48where the if holds
01:02:49basically 100%
01:02:50of the time
01:02:51in one of the five
01:02:52arguments of your treatise
01:02:53correcting someone
01:02:54shows that they prefer
01:02:55truth to falsehood
01:02:56while it's true
01:02:57which is too much
01:02:58on weird exceptions
01:02:59e.g. debating
01:03:00to confuse
01:03:01because ought from is
01:03:02must hold
01:03:03100% of the time
01:03:04do you agree?
01:03:06well no
01:03:07just because you're
01:03:08manipulating
01:03:09doesn't mean that
01:03:10the premises you're
01:03:11lying about
01:03:12aren't true
01:03:13so if you're debating
01:03:14someone not to get
01:03:15to the truth
01:03:16but in order to
01:03:17frustrate them
01:03:18well
01:03:19if you said that up front
01:03:20hey man
01:03:21I'm not interested
01:03:22in the truth
01:03:23I'm only debating
01:03:24to frustrate you
01:03:25well then the person
01:03:27you have to provide
01:03:28the appearance that
01:03:29you prefer truth to falsehood
01:03:30in order to engage
01:03:31in troll-like debates
01:03:34but here's the thing
01:03:35so people who
01:03:36it's right in the beginning
01:03:37people who criticize
01:03:38UPB think that it
01:03:39derives an ought from an is
01:03:40ok
01:03:41so if there is no
01:03:42such thing
01:03:43as getting an ought
01:03:44from an is
01:03:45why would I be criticized
01:03:46for that?
01:03:47because then they say
01:03:48well you can't get
01:03:49an ought from an is
01:03:50oh look you just got
01:03:51an ought from an is
01:03:52which is you ought not
01:03:53to get an ought from an is
01:03:54and if there's one
01:03:55it's UPB because UPB
01:03:56is a manifestation
01:03:57of their conscience
01:04:00the level of systemic
01:04:01inefficiency and theft
01:04:02is incredible
01:04:03and the last person
01:04:04I would ever blame
01:04:05is my employer
01:04:06sorry I don't know
01:04:07what that is referring to
01:04:08somebody says
01:04:09I don't feel motivated
01:04:10to fix the relationship
01:04:11with my parents
01:04:12because I will never get
01:04:13what they were supposed
01:04:14to give me as a child
01:04:15but I would have to
01:04:16take care of them
01:04:17doesn't seem like
01:04:18a good deal
01:04:19yep
01:04:20yep
01:04:23is this the lady
01:04:24who would have you
01:04:25play dead soldier?
01:04:26it was one of them
01:04:27yeah I can't remember
01:04:28if it was the same one
01:04:29or not but yeah
01:04:30when she just wanted
01:04:31some peace and quiet
01:04:32she'd have all the kids
01:04:33play dead soldier
01:04:34right
01:04:36it's an amazing instinct
01:04:37good women have for children
01:04:38but it's a big problem
01:04:39for women who feel
01:04:40obligated to take care
01:04:41of aging neglectful boomers
01:04:42great contrast
01:04:43this message needs to go viral
01:04:48great message
01:04:49well thank you
01:04:50I guess it's worth 5 bucks
01:04:52my mom stayed home
01:04:53okay good
01:04:54so they both sound
01:04:55like they were sacrificing
01:04:56but just staying home
01:04:57you know I know
01:04:58a lot of parents
01:04:59who stayed home
01:05:00through my listeners
01:05:01and others
01:05:02they stayed home
01:05:03but they didn't do
01:05:04jack shit to really parent
01:05:07somebody says
01:05:08I wish my sister
01:05:09would listen to me
01:05:10as I was able to prove
01:05:11to her that her parents
01:05:12deeply fucked up
01:05:13she consistently tells
01:05:14my parents that they
01:05:15chose to be with each other
01:05:16when they argue
01:05:17but on the same token
01:05:18she seemed to have
01:05:19decided to take
01:05:20my dad's side
01:05:21on a lot over my mom
01:05:22she doesn't want to
01:05:23fully accept my dad
01:05:24is just as horrible
01:05:25she has an anger
01:05:26slash temperament
01:05:27problem and refuses
01:05:28to work on it
01:05:29yeah
01:05:30lot of people
01:05:31lot of people
01:05:32choose to manage others
01:05:33rather than be good
01:05:34themselves
01:05:37the silent generation
01:05:38from 28 to 54
01:05:39is that right?
01:05:40okay thanks
01:05:41greatest generation
01:05:42I guess was the war people
01:05:43right?
01:05:44thank you
01:05:47no silent generation
01:05:48from 1928 to 1954
01:05:49no I don't think so
01:05:50the boomers were 45
01:05:51the boomers were 45
01:05:52right?
01:05:53oh 1928 to 1945
01:05:54oh you just switched
01:05:55your typo
01:05:56okay
01:05:57we had the conversation
01:05:58about this
01:05:59this is from Rumble
01:06:00my mom is 18 years
01:06:01younger than my boomer
01:06:02dad who was 78
01:06:03when my dad dies
01:06:04my mom will probably
01:06:05move in with my fiance
01:06:06and I
01:06:07if that's what you
01:06:08want to do
01:06:09and they've earned
01:06:10that behavior
01:06:11I thank them for
01:06:12their service
01:06:13and applaud you
01:06:14for your integrity
01:06:15my aunt is a 73 year
01:06:16old boomer
01:06:17and has had MS
01:06:18for years
01:06:19my cousin is 33
01:06:20and has sacrificed
01:06:21her own life
01:06:22to care for her mother
01:06:23so what happens
01:06:24to my cousin
01:06:25in 40 years
01:06:26with no children?
01:06:27so all of the people
01:06:28who don't want to
01:06:29have kids
01:06:30it's like okay
01:06:31so who's going to
01:06:32take care of you
01:06:33when you're old
01:06:34if nobody has any kids
01:06:35if we universalize
01:06:36your approach
01:06:37then nobody's going
01:06:38to be able to take
01:06:39care of you
01:06:40right?
01:06:41we lost the
01:06:42meritocracy
01:06:43because it made
01:06:44the boomers
01:06:45feel bad
01:06:46yeah
01:06:47boomers want
01:06:48the unearned
01:06:49they can give us
01:06:50what they want
01:06:51and it will end
01:06:52the economy
01:06:53well yeah
01:06:54that seems
01:06:55certainly seems
01:06:56to be happening
01:06:57certainly seems
01:06:58to be the case
01:06:59my mom is 58
01:07:00says someone
01:07:01and already requires
01:07:02significant assistance
01:07:03after a lifetime
01:07:04of self destructive
01:07:05behaviors
01:07:06it can come even
01:07:07sooner with some
01:07:08parents
01:07:09says she can't
01:07:10live off $2000
01:07:11a month
01:07:12no savings
01:07:13reaping season
01:07:14has arrived
01:07:15yeah
01:07:16yeah
01:07:18yeah
01:07:19I never have a
01:07:20problem
01:07:21holding people
01:07:22to their own
01:07:23standards
01:07:24never
01:07:25I never have a
01:07:26problem
01:07:27hold
01:07:28if they're going
01:07:29to hold me
01:07:30to punitive
01:07:31standards
01:07:32when I'm 6
01:07:33I'm going to
01:07:34hold them
01:07:35to punitive
01:07:36standards
01:07:37when they're 60
01:07:38well clearly
01:07:39a 60 year old
01:07:40adult is infinitely
01:07:41more responsible
01:07:42for his or her
01:07:43life
01:07:44than a 60 year
01:07:45old
01:07:47kid
01:07:48who got born
01:07:49to the parents
01:07:50they didn't choose
01:07:51in a country they
01:07:52didn't choose
01:07:53shipped off to
01:07:54boarding school
01:07:55which I never
01:07:56chose
01:07:57right
01:07:58no control
01:07:59over my life
01:08:00and environment
01:08:01and I was held
01:08:02to account
01:08:03I was given
01:08:04no sympathy
01:08:05at all
01:08:06for the brutal
01:08:07home life I had
01:08:08that interfered
01:08:09with me
01:08:10I mean can you
01:08:11imagine
01:08:12I mean I love
01:08:13knowledge
01:08:14I love studying
01:08:15but coursework
01:08:16was horribly
01:08:17boring
01:08:18and
01:08:19I was punished
01:08:20for things
01:08:21utterly outside
01:08:22of my control
01:08:23and really
01:08:24threatened
01:08:25right
01:08:26really threatened
01:08:27I mean I
01:08:28wasn't put back
01:08:29two grades
01:08:30because I did
01:08:31badly
01:08:32but when I
01:08:33came to
01:08:34England
01:08:35I first lived
01:08:36in Whitby
01:08:37where I was
01:08:38in grade 8
01:08:39and then a
01:08:40couple of
01:08:41months later
01:08:42we moved
01:08:43to Toronto
01:08:44and then we
01:08:45moved to
01:08:46Toronto
01:08:47when I was
01:08:48put from
01:08:49grade 8
01:08:50to grade 6
01:08:51I had no
01:08:52control over that
01:08:53so a lot of
01:08:54the work was
01:08:55repetitive
01:08:56and I was
01:08:57bored
01:08:58still I was
01:08:59punished for
01:09:00being bored
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01:09:19a year or two
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01:09:25I'll accept
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01:09:37I didn't
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01:09:49right
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01:10:39for it
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