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00:00I mean, we look and we want an undefeated NFL team.
00:04It's really hard to do.
00:06Even the bad teams can win games.
00:09And that's what we're seeing in college football.
00:11So if you're used to, hey, I just want to dominate Clemson, I want to dominate Alabama.
00:17Those days are done, I think.
00:18I think we're seeing a dramatic shift here, though.
00:20I didn't think it was going to happen this quick.
00:22And I'm telling you right now, and you guys can answer mine, it's a little overreaction,
00:26we might see an eight and four playoff team.
00:29It's very possible.
00:33On October 7th, Aaron Rodgers is washed up.
00:37Three picks in London, second one was really ugly.
00:40The offense hasn't seen a big enough jump from the Zach Wilson days.
00:45He's not the quarterback he used to be.
00:46I don't think anybody should expect him to be the quarterback he used to be.
00:49He's also not getting the protection that he is used to having.
00:53He's getting beat up.
00:54He's going to throw some picks.
00:56I don't think he's washed up, but I don't think he's the quarterback he used to be.
01:00It doesn't mean he's washed up.
01:02I think he is washed up.
01:03And we saw this in his last season in Green Bay.
01:05He wasn't as good.
01:07And then he had an Achilles injury and he's 40.
01:09I think you're seeing a difference between a 40-year-old coming off an Achilles and a
01:1335-year-old or whatever, Cousins, since he's around that age.
01:15But I think you've got to...
01:17What does washed up mean?
01:19He doesn't look like himself anymore.
01:20He looks like a mediocre quarterback.
01:22Okay, but how many other quarterbacks would you take instead of Aaron Rodgers?
01:27You put me on the spot, but probably three-quarters of the league.
01:3020 or so, yeah.
01:37Even if Anthony Richardson is healthy, Joe Flacco should be the starter in Indy.
01:41Five touchdowns, zero picks the last two weeks.
01:44And let's not forget, last year helped the Browns make the playoffs.
01:47This league's about winning.
01:48He gives them the best chance to win.
01:50I don't think it's an overreaction.
01:52And here's where I go back to my philosophy of young quarterbacks.
01:57It takes them sometimes years.
02:00Is Anthony Richardson going to be a bust?
02:02I don't think so.
02:03I think he's going to be a good quarterback, but he needs time.
02:06He didn't get that experience last year.
02:08You're seeing a quarterback basically continue his rookie season.
02:11Was it four games he played last year?
02:13Now all of a sudden, you're expecting him to be a C.J. Stroud?
02:19That's rare.
02:20I know we're seeing it in Washington as well with Jaden Daniels, but if I'm in Indianapolis,
02:27I allow him time to develop, to learn the NFL game, and I go with Flacco while that's
02:32happening.
02:33See, I think you keep Richardson here because what are you if even Flacco works out nine
02:38and eight?
02:39That defense is not very good down there.
02:42And Taylor's out.
02:43I mean, where are you going with Flacco?
02:46Why find out about Richardson now?
02:49Put him in there.
02:50Hey, if he's got some injuries, there's no reason to take chances.
02:53I just don't get what the point is.
02:56The best thing Flacco could do is what the Browns did last year.
03:00Is that really what you want?
03:01And then you're going into the next year and you still have questions about the QB?
03:05I'll defer this next one to Terry Bradshaw, who brought up, well, Deshaun Watson.
03:15I think he meant bench him to clarify.
03:21Yes, he should be benched.
03:24Yeah, I agree.
03:26I mean, you want to talk about a quarterback that is not like he used to be, whether it's
03:32he just doesn't care anymore.
03:33He got the big time contract.
03:35He says, you know what?
03:36I'm just going to ride off into the sunset.
03:37Give me my money.
03:39There's just way too many off the field distractions that are continuing to resurface.
03:44Yeah, I sit them down and let somebody else go in there and try and win you some games.
03:50Who is their backup?
03:51You guys know off the top of your head?
03:53I know what's the old UCLA quarterback.
03:55Jameis Winston's their backup.
03:56Oh yeah, that's right.
03:57Winston.
03:58He throws so many interceptions.
04:00Is it really going to make things better?
04:01Look, the bottom line is this is, I don't see how this ever works out at this point.
04:05He's played enough to show that he's not the quarterback he was, and maybe it was never
04:10all that good to begin with because I think Bill O'Brien made him.
04:17The Packers are the worst team in the NFC North.
04:19Hear me out.
04:20Vikings are 5-0.
04:21Lions, we think highly of at 3-1.
04:25Caleb Williams is outplayed Jordan Love the last couple weeks, and the light bulb might
04:29be going on.
04:31It's a bit of an overreaction.
04:32I'm not ready to say Caleb Williams.
04:34Caleb Williams is going to have some up and downs.
04:36They still have Matt Eberfloos as their coach, and I don't think much of him as a coach and
04:42what he can do for Chicago.
04:43He's got a lot of weapons.
04:45If he simply just hits the, I'm not going to try too much or try to do too much button,
04:52then he can be okay as a rookie, but I'm not ready to say that they're going to be better
04:58than Green Bay through the course of 17 games.
05:00Whole division has a winning record.
05:02Someone has to be the worst team, Tom.
05:04Is it Green Bay?
05:05It's still Chicago for now.
05:06Okay.
05:07Again, need to see more Carolina.
05:08Come on.
05:09Everybody puts 30 up against them.
05:10Do I see it as a possibility?
05:12Yeah.
05:13I mean, this division, that's the bigger thing.
05:15It's like, why?
05:16Why has it got to be so hard?
05:19I mean, the Lions are going to have to go minimally 4-2 in the division to probably
05:23win it at this point.
05:24That's probably what you thought before the year.
05:26I didn't expect them to go 3-3 in the division.
05:27That's a winning record.
05:28I didn't expect them to go 6-0.
05:29Well, yeah, that's kind of what you got to do if you want to be the team.
05:32I think we all had a Chicago loss, and they're probably going to have to win that now.
05:37Yeah.
05:38And that last game of the season against Minnesota, suddenly a very different game.
05:43On that note, after the Niners lose again, the NFC runs through Detroit.
05:50Sure the Vikings have a lead, but there's two games against Detroit.
05:54The Lions have looked the best of the preseason heavyweights, Eagles, Niners, Detroit.
05:59It goes through Ford Field.
06:03To me, it's not an overreaction.
06:04I think the Lions are the better team.
06:07I think in all three phases, they're a better team.
06:10Now, the question is going to be for Minnesota, how long can they keep Sam Darnold playing
06:16at this level, and how long can Brian Flores continue to get his defense to play at an
06:23elite level?
06:24That's where they are right now.
06:26I think the Lions are the best team still, but I'm certainly starting to question a little
06:29bit in the back of my mind.
06:30I mean, the defense that they're playing is just, nobody saw that coming, right?
06:36And all they need is a game manager at quarterback.
06:39It's like they've got the perfect formula to really rack up a great regular season win,
06:44but you know what?
06:45When push comes to shove, I think in the playoffs, I still wouldn't buy them, but I don't know.
06:50They've got such a lead now.
06:51If they go eight and four the rest of the way, the Lions have to go 10 and two and rely
06:54on tiebreakers.