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00:00Mr. Kuklinski, we're going to conduct a bad search here. Put your arms out.

00:21On May 25, 1988, Richard Kuklinski was convicted of multiple murder and sentenced to life imprisonment.

00:30This ended 30 years of cold-blooded killing by a masked criminal police called the Ice Man.

00:38Richard Kuklinski is one of the most dangerous criminals we have ever come across in this state.

00:45He murdered by guns. He murdered by strangulation. He murdered by putting poison on victims' food.

00:53He did all of this at the same time while exhibiting a normal placid family existence.

00:59His wife, his children were uninvolved in his criminal activities.

01:05Yet, we are faced with evidence, convicting evidence of numerous grisly murders.

01:20How many people have you killed?

01:23I have an approximate guess.

01:32Approximate, we'll go with more than a hundred.

01:45How do you feel about killing?

01:47I don't.

01:49I don't?

01:53It doesn't bother me.

01:56It doesn't bother me at all.

02:00I don't have a feeling one way or the other.

02:06I think if I had a choice, I wouldn't.

02:10The following program is based on 17 hours of an interview conducted under maximum security at Trenton State Prison.

02:19Law enforcement officials allowed our cameras unprecedented access in an attempt to uncover details of various unsolved crimes.

02:29It was also hoped that the interview would help to penetrate the mind of Richard Kuklinski, a mind made for murder.

02:37A mind made for murder.

02:44Richard, when you were on the streets, what kind of weapons did you use?

02:49When I was out on the street to do something, I carried three guns and a knife.

02:57I had a damager in each pocket.

03:00And a gun on my ankle. A bigger gun, just in case.

03:06And a knife.

03:09And it all depends how it came about.

03:13You had the idea yesterday that you used a shotgun to grab a stum light or something like that?

03:21I had a red light.

03:23We were following this fellow.

03:26We were following this fellow.

03:31He pulled up with a red light.

03:37Came alongside of him.

03:41And shot the shotgun and took his head off. He never saw the green light.

03:46It was a sawed off shotgun.

03:49It was very... As a matter of fact, when it happened, it surprised me.

03:55I expected the man to die, but it really surprised me when it took his head off.

04:05It was something I didn't expect.

04:10Richard Kuklinski is not a serial killer.

04:13He's not a drug crazed wild man running around with a machine gun.

04:20He's not a person that is driven by perverse sexual desires.

04:27He doesn't drink. He doesn't gamble.

04:31All of these things, which many persons that are involved in killing and murders often are motivated by.

04:39Richard Kuklinski instead is nothing more than a predator on human beings.

04:45His motivation is greed and his method of murder is very varied and very extreme.

04:54Richard, I understand that you're an expert in the use of cyanide.

04:58How many times did you kill with it?

05:01Quite a few.

05:03What's the different ways you use cyanide?

05:06What's the different ways you use cyanide?

05:09You could...

05:13put it in liquid form.

05:16You could...

05:18The person could say, for instance, a person could be in a bar.

05:23You would bunk into them, possibly by mistake, or say you were intoxicated.

05:30Spill the drink on them and leave.

05:35Everybody just looks around and thinks you're drunk or that you just had an accident or something.

05:41Meanwhile, it's soaking through their clothes, into their pores, and into their system.

05:50And eventually...

05:54they'll die.

05:58I've been in a restaurant where we were eating.

06:03And the guy went to the bathroom.

06:06And while he was in the bathroom, we put a little boost in his food.

06:17He was rushed to the hospital after that.

06:21And he died.

06:24And they buried him.

06:27I'm not exactly sure what they attributed his death to.

06:33But, you know...

06:35it wasn't homicide.

06:38Somewhere, and I don't know where, he picked up on cyanide poisoning as being a good way,

06:46a good, quick way to kill somebody.

06:49It's such a good way to kill somebody that that's the gas that's used in gas chambers.

06:53I mean, cyanide in a gas-fed form, which is similar to cyanide in a being-eaten form,

07:01kills very quickly.

07:03It kills faster than arsenic, faster than strychnine.

07:07And it's hard to detect...

07:14if it isn't specifically looked for.

07:17He murdered, sometimes months apart, years apart.

07:21He used different methods.

07:24He would go so far as to plan in his crimes the actual deceit of law enforcement.

07:33By that I mean, he would on occasion murder someone, cut their body,

07:39wrap them in layer after layer of plastic bags and material,

07:43and then deposit the body many, many miles from the murder scene.

07:46What is it to dispose of something?

07:49What is it to dispose of something?

07:52You throw it away.

07:54You throw it anywhere.

07:56It all depends if you don't want it found or if you want it found.

08:00If you want it found, it doesn't matter, you just leave it there.

08:04If you don't want it found, you could take it somewhere.

08:10You could bury it.

08:13You could put it in a big drum.

08:19You could put it in the trunk of a car and have it crushed.

08:28You could leave it in town. You could put it on a park bench.

08:32I mean, you know, you could put it anywhere you want.

08:35They found a few people sitting on park benches, I'm sure.

08:40As a matter of fact, I know they have.

08:43Are there any murders that you committed that haunt you,

08:47that you just sort of, you feel?

08:52Nothing haunts me.

08:56No murders haunt me.

09:01Nothing.

09:03I don't think about it.

09:06That's why it's hard for me to tell you.

09:09In order for me to be able to tell you,

09:12when something happened, I'd have to think about when.

09:16If I think about it,

09:21it would wind up hurting me.

09:25So I don't think about it.

09:32If I had a choice,

09:35and of course you have already said to me we all have choices,

09:39maybe we do.

09:42At the time, I didn't seem to have one.

09:45But if I could have,

09:48I would like to be different than what I am.

09:51I would have liked to have been different than what I was, yes.

09:54It would be better. It would have been better for me.

09:58I would have liked to have had a better outlook on life.

10:01But I can't change yesterday.

10:06Richard Kuklinski was born April 11, 1935,

10:11in a low-income public housing project in Jersey City.

10:16His father was a brakeman for the railroad,

10:19and his mother worked in a meatpacking plant.

10:22I didn't like my father.

10:25I didn't like him.

10:28I didn't like my father,

10:31because he would beat me just because he felt like it.

10:35To get my attention, I guess.

10:38He would think nothing of coming in and smacking you.

10:41You know, basically.

10:45He'd just come in and give you a whooping for no reason whatsoever.

10:49And my mother was cancer.

10:52She would destroy everybody.

10:55She thought I took too long to do something.

10:58She didn't hesitate to give me a swat here and there.

11:01And she didn't just use her hands.

11:04She would hit me with a broomstick or something like that.

11:10It hurt.

11:13As a matter of fact, she broke the broom on me more than once.

11:18Richard's mother believed that harsh discipline at home

11:21should go hand-in-hand with a rigid religious education.

11:26I was raised Catholic.

11:32We were very...

11:35She was strict as far as religion goes.

11:38I went to...

11:40Your mother?

11:42My mother, yeah.

11:44We went to a Catholic grammar school.

11:47And we were raised with the Catholic belief

11:52I was even an altar boy.

11:56But...

11:59During the course of my life, I don't really believe it.

12:05It's just the way it happened.

12:08Didn't mean it to happen that way, but it just happened that way.

12:11When his father abandoned the family,

12:14Richard, a skinny, timid young teenager,

12:18was left to fend for himself.

12:19He was an easy target for street gangs.

12:22But by the time he was 16, things began to change.

12:27When I was a young man, I found out that

12:30if you hurt somebody, they'll leave you alone.

12:36Good guys do finish last.

12:41When I tried to leave everybody alone, just do my own thing,

12:45everybody just wanted to hurt me.

12:47Until one day, I just decided,

12:50well, I've had enough of this picking.

12:53And I went upstairs, and I took a...

12:57a bar, which the clothes used to hang on in the closet.

13:03And I went back downstairs,

13:06and there were like six young men

13:10still figuring they were going to mess with my head

13:14and we went to war.

13:19To their surprise,

13:22I was no longer taking the beating.

13:25I was giving it.

13:28And that's when I learned that it was better

13:31to give than to receive.

13:35I've been known to hurt people for no reason.

13:39If you check out my background as I came up,

13:41I could be anywhere, and if somebody humiliated me,

13:44I would think nothing of hitting them with a cue stick.

13:47In an instant.

13:53And the only thing they might have done was

13:56made me feel bad,

13:59or challenged my authority at the time.

14:05Kuklinski's reputation as a tough guy

14:08with a hair-trigger temper grew.

14:11By the time he was 18,

14:14the abused had become the abuser.

14:17It wasn't long before he committed his first murder.

14:21I got into a fight in a bar.

14:24We got into an argument, a fight.

14:28And I hit him with a...

14:31with a cue stick.

14:33A cue stick.

14:39A few too many times.

14:42And he died.

14:45How did you feel when you found out he had died?

14:48I felt very bad.

14:51Very, very bad. I was upset.

14:55I didn't mean to do it, actually.

14:59But surprisingly, I felt sadness, and...

15:05After a while, I felt something else.

15:08I didn't feel sad.

15:11It was sad along with some sort of a...

15:15rush that I had control.

15:18And if you mess with me, I guess it's...

15:21If you mess with me, I'll...

15:24I'll hurt you.

15:26I'll hurt you.

15:29By the time he'd reached his 20s,

15:32Kuklinski had become a petty crook and pool hustler.

15:35Then his life changed.

15:38In 1960, he met a pretty 19-year-old girl

15:41named Barbara Pedrin.

15:44He was absolutely...

15:47flowers at the door every day,

15:50and considerate and romantic,

15:52that anybody could hope for, dream for.

15:55He bought me beautiful things.

15:58We went fun places.

16:01He was happiest when we were together.

16:04He was happiest when just he and I were together.

16:07He and Barbara had three children.

16:10But with just an eighth-grade education,

16:13he could only get low-paying jobs

16:15that didn't pay enough to support his growing family.

16:18I didn't have the capability

16:20of getting a better-paying job.

16:23Was I gonna push a yarn truck the rest of my life?

16:27Make a menial amount of money?

16:31I couldn't have afforded...

16:34one child, let alone three.

16:37He went to work at a film lab,

16:40where he began to pirate pornographic films

16:43and sell them to outside sources

16:45connected to the Gambino crime family.

16:47This connection led to other criminal activities,

16:50and it wasn't long before he went from being

16:53a small-time hood to a big-time killer.

16:59He worked as a hitman

17:01and associated with a gang

17:03that worked out of the notorious

17:05Gemini Lounge in Brooklyn.

17:07Above the lounge was a mafia killing factory,

17:11where victims were killed and dismembered.

17:13Hacked bodies were packaged in plastic bags

17:16and carted away.

17:19Kuklinski was the perfect enforcer.

17:22He was brutal, and he knew how to intimidate.

17:27If people owed money,

17:29they either paid up or paid with their lives.

17:33Most people paid their bills.

17:36Some didn't.

17:39I remember one guy,

17:40he owed a lot of money,

17:42well, I guess,

17:44considerable amount of money.

17:54He hid behind,

17:56he thought he could hide behind a door.

17:59It was a nice door,

18:01an expensive door.

18:04Anyway,

18:06most people don't realize

18:07that when you come

18:09to answer a door,

18:14if there's light in the background,

18:17the person on the outside

18:19can look through the peephole

18:21and see the guy coming

18:23to the door.

18:26So he came to the door,

18:28I asked who it was,

18:31and

18:34he looked through the peephole

18:36and he never saw what hit him.

18:40For Richard Kuklinski,

18:42murder had become a way of life,

18:44and the macabre

18:46became the commonplace.

18:49How would you ever use a chainsaw?

18:52To cut someone up?

18:54Yes.

18:57I've done that.

19:01I've done that.

19:02I've done that.

19:06To dismember them, yes,

19:08not to kill them, no.

19:11What was it like to cut somebody up

19:13with a, you know,

19:15with the other guy who's dead?

19:17How did it feel to cut some guy up

19:19with a chainsaw?

19:21I didn't have any feeling

19:23one way or the other

19:25that that just happened.

19:27That's the way it had to be.

19:30Messy?

19:32Yes.

19:36Yes, it was.

19:39Did it make you sick?

19:41No.

19:43I've had requests where the guy

19:45wanted the guy's tongue cut out,

19:48and he also

19:50wanted his tongue

19:52put in his rear end.

19:57So I believe

19:59there was a definite point

20:00where he wanted his tongue cut out.

20:06I have an experience

20:08that I don't know if I should tell you.

20:10That it might,

20:12it probably would offend a lot of people.

20:20I don't know.

20:22I don't think I should.

20:24I'll go into that.

20:26Let's go ahead.

20:27No, it's not a good one.

20:29It was a man.

20:31He was begging

20:34and pleading

20:40and praying, I guess.

20:49And

20:51and

20:59he was pleased God and all over the place.

21:07So I told him he could have a half hour

21:12to pray to God

21:16and if God could come down

21:18and change the circumstances

21:21he'd have that time.

21:29But God never showed up

21:33and he never changed the circumstances.

21:39And that was that.

21:45It wasn't too nice

21:46It wasn't too nice.

21:55That's one thing I shouldn't have done that one.

22:01I shouldn't have done it that way.

22:06By the 1970s

22:08between his illegal activities

22:10and contract killings

22:12he was becoming a wealthy man.

22:13He now lived in an expensive home

22:15in a middle class neighborhood

22:17with his wife and three children.

22:20Richard, what did you charge for a hit?

22:23If I hit somebody

22:25I wouldn't hit it for

22:27peanuts.

22:29I'd like to have some

22:31some money.

22:37I say if I were to do somebody

22:39I want to do it for money.

22:40I say if I were to do somebody

22:43I want at least five figures

22:48and at least up in the better half

22:50not the lower half of the five figures.

22:54Kuklinski kept his criminal life

22:56secret from his family and neighbors.

22:58He told them he was a businessman.

23:00No one knew his business was murder.

23:04We were perfect.

23:06My children were never in trouble.

23:08We were perfect.

23:10We had a wonderful family.

23:12I mean we had

23:14what seemed to be

23:16the perfect life.

23:18There were wonderful times.

23:20And time with his family

23:22was the only thing

23:24that he was really concerned.

23:26If he never had to leave the house

23:28he would have loved it.

23:30He hated to have to travel.

23:32He hated to go away.

23:34He came back as soon as he can.

23:36He wanted to be home all the time.

23:38He wanted to be with us all the time.

23:40That was his way of life.

23:43I felt I had achieved something.

23:46I

23:49very seldom left

23:51the house unless I had to

23:53because I felt

23:55secure in the house.

23:57I felt very secure.

24:00I tried to provide

24:02the best

24:04for them

24:06as I knew how.

24:08It might not have been

24:10the right way to go

24:12but it was for me the only way.

24:14I tried to

24:16never let anything

24:18touch the house.

24:20I brought nobody there.

24:22My family was not

24:24exposed to anybody.

24:26I wanted to show them

24:28the good side of life

24:30not the bad side.

24:32Richard had a very,

24:34very sad childhood.

24:35You got the impression

24:37or I knew because he would

24:39say something and then drop it

24:41and change the subject

24:43that he was abused

24:45and that there was no love.

24:47He grew up absolutely

24:49without any love,

24:51without a doubt.

24:53The first Christmas

24:55with my family

24:57he was in awe.

24:59He couldn't believe it.

25:01It was a tree

25:03and everyone was cooking

25:05and it was a

25:07Jekyll and Hyde existence.

25:09The way it was

25:11and the way I wanted it to be

25:13were absolutely two different

25:15two different lives.

25:17I wanted

25:19one life.

25:21I had to have

25:23another life.

25:25This other life

25:27would interrupt one Christmas Eve.

25:29While his family

25:31was celebrating the holidays

25:33Kuklinski left his home

25:35business was business

25:37even on Christmas Eve.

25:39The man owed me money.

25:41He was giving me a run around.

25:44I told him I wasn't happy

25:46that he wasn't going to pay me.

25:50He had the attitude that

25:55nobody could hurt him.

26:00I think he was wrong.

26:01The only way he never saw Christmas.

26:07Who did you use?

26:09A gun.

26:11Extremely loud inside of a car.

26:16Matter of fact,

26:18my ears were ringing for a long time.

26:20What did you do afterwards?

26:22I walked away.

26:24Got in my car

26:26and went home.

26:27What did you do when you got home?

26:31I put toys together

26:33for the kids for Christmas.

26:42I saw the broadcast

26:44while I was putting the toys together

26:46that came down.

26:48Mob-related killing.

26:52That was the first time

26:54I knew what I was doing.

26:56That was the first time

26:58I knew I was mob-related.

27:03How did you feel?

27:10I was annoyed I couldn't get

27:12the damn wagon together.

27:14I never questioned him

27:16and you just knew

27:18don't do it, don't ask.

27:20If he got up at 2 o'clock in the morning

27:22or during dinner

27:23you didn't take your shoes

27:25and walk out the door.

27:27You said bye.

27:29You didn't say where are you going

27:31or why are you going.

27:33And it was just understood

27:35that that's the way it was.

27:37He was very private.

27:39You only knew

27:41what he wanted you to know.

27:43By the 1980s,

27:45after 25 years of working

27:47as a hitman for the mob,

27:49Richard Kuklinski became

27:51the head of his own crime ring.

27:53The case of Paul Hoffman

27:55was typical of the way

27:57he operated.

27:59On the afternoon of April 29, 1982,

28:01Hoffman arrived

28:03at a warehouse leased

28:05by Kuklinski.

28:07Like numerous victims

28:09of the Iceman,

28:11he had been set up

28:13for a phony business deal.

28:15Paul Hoffman was a pharmacist

28:17and he was looking

28:19for a quick buck.

28:21He was out to purchase

28:23what was at the time

28:25a wonder drug for ulcers.

28:27And he felt that

28:29if he could purchase

28:31a large quantity

28:33of this tagiment

28:35at a very low price,

28:37that he could indeed

28:39make a huge profit

28:41on that.

28:43And that was the

28:45alleged deal that he had

28:47with Richard Kuklinski.

28:49When Paul Hoffman

28:51showed up to buy the tagiment,

28:53he had no cash.

28:55He took the bag,

28:57door, opened it,

28:59showed me a whole mess of money,

29:01a whole mess of cash.

29:03He said,

29:05I got the money right here.

29:07And he came back.

29:09He says,

29:11what are we going to do,

29:13what are we going to do,

29:15how am I going to get

29:17this merchandise?

29:19I put the gun

29:21under his chin

29:23and I said,

29:25there is no merchandise.

29:27And I shot him.

29:36He didn't die.

29:40The gun jammed.

29:43He was

29:46gurgling.

29:48I had hit him.

29:53It was,

29:55blood was pouring out of his mouth.

30:00And

30:09he was in a,

30:11I would imagine,

30:13it looked like he was in a lot of pain.

30:15So there was a tire iron there.

30:17I took the tire iron and hit him with it,

30:19which

30:21knocked him out.

30:24And

30:26he died.

30:28I then took him

30:30and put him in a 50-gallon drum,

30:33put it on the side of a motel.

30:38It was behind Harry's Corner.

30:42I listened to the people.

30:44I went in Harry's every morning.

30:46The thing was there for a long time.

30:50I looked at it every day.

30:51It was there.

30:53I went in Harry's every day.

30:55One day it was just missing.

30:57Continued to go in Harry's

30:59to see if anything was

31:01said about it.

31:03Nothing was said.

31:05I don't know what happened to the drum.

31:08By the 1980s,

31:10Kuklinski was involved in narcotics,

31:12pornography,

31:14arms dealing, money laundering,

31:16hijacking and contract killing

31:18on a worldwide basis.

31:20He was also pressing 50

31:22and getting tired.

31:24He started to make mistakes.

31:27He began to leave traces,

31:29and law enforcement officers

31:31who had suspected him over the years

31:33began gathering evidence.

31:36Kuklinski would protect himself

31:38by killing anyone who could

31:40testify against him.

31:42On December 27, 1982,

31:44a body was discovered

31:46at the York Motel in New Jersey.

31:48The body was identified

31:50as Gary Smith, 37.

31:52Smith had been given cyanide

31:54and then strangled to death.

31:57This was the first

31:59of many mistakes Kuklinski

32:01was to commit.

32:03Gary Smith was found

32:05under a motel bed

32:07in New Jersey.

32:09As I recall,

32:11where some 20 people

32:13had used the room in five days

32:15and nobody had realized

32:17what was underneath it.

32:19The body was found

32:21in a decomposed state.

32:23It was very hot weather.

32:25Smith would have not

32:27been identified as a murder victim

32:29if he had died only of the cyanide.

32:32If the cyanide had worked

32:34and he had died

32:36and he didn't need to be strangled,

32:38that ligature mark around the neck

32:40wouldn't have been seen

32:42and he would have been

32:44possibly a drug addict, overdose

32:45or lots of other things

32:47of a non-homicidal nature

32:49would have to be considered.

32:51On September 25, 1983,

32:53the body of Louis Mazget

32:56was found.

32:58As he had done many times before

33:00to confuse the time of death,

33:02Kuklinski had frozen the body

33:04in an industrial freezer.

33:06This was the murder

33:08that earned him the name

33:10of Iceman.

33:12This murder was also

33:14He did too good a job

33:16in that body

33:18because he left that body

33:20in the freezer for two years

33:22then took the body out

33:24and dumped it in Rockland County

33:26and the body was found

33:28before it had fully thawed out.

33:30So the doctor doing the autopsy,

33:32the medical exam in Rockland County

33:34when he opened the body up

33:36saw ice inside the body

33:38in the summer's day

33:40and said,

33:41he could not have died two days ago

33:43the way he looks like

33:45from the outside.

33:47On May 14, 1983,

33:49a bicyclist was riding down

33:51a lonely road in a wooded area

33:53and saw a buzzard

33:55feeding on a body.

33:57It was Daniel Deppner, 44,

33:59the third business associate

34:01of Richard Kuklinski

34:03to be found dead.

34:05The body count grew.

34:07There would soon be

34:09five unsolved murders

34:11and one of the victims alive

34:13had been Richard Kuklinski.

34:15After 30 years of getting away

34:17with murder,

34:19Richard Kuklinski's time

34:21was running out.

34:23He had been under investigation

34:25for three years

34:27and the police were beginning

34:29to put the pieces together.

34:31What I told my superiors

34:33in Trenton was that,

34:35hey look,

34:37we can check with the FBI

34:39and we can see that

34:41there's a certain number

34:43of given serial killers

34:45roaming around this country of ours,

34:48but take a good hard look

34:50at what we got here.

34:52We got Richard Kuklinski

34:54and there's only one of him.

34:56In 1986,

34:58a division of the New Jersey

35:00Criminal Justice Department

35:02set up a task force

35:04made up of federal,

35:06state and local

35:08law enforcement agencies.

35:09They analyzed existing

35:11investigative material

35:13and gathered new information.

35:15They had one mission,

35:17to arrest and convict

35:19Richard Kuklinski.

35:21When I first read the file,

35:23which at the time

35:25was nothing more than

35:27a compilation of several

35:29different unsolved homicides,

35:31the more you looked

35:33for connections,

35:35the less you found

35:37in this particular case

35:39an undercover federal agent,

35:41Dominic Polifron,

35:43who was able to win

35:45Mr. Kuklinski's confidence

35:47and was able to record

35:49conversations where he

35:51detailed his participation

35:53in these murders.

35:55I portrayed myself

35:57as a hit man.

35:59I told him I worked

36:01for the wise guys

36:03downtown New York

36:05and my brother was

36:07a good fella downtown

36:09and he said,

36:11you know,

36:13you gotta do

36:15what you gotta do

36:17to get your money.

36:19I don't know what

36:21my brother was doing

36:23but he said he was

36:25doing what he was

36:27supposed to do

36:29to get his money.

36:31He was doing

36:33what he was supposed

36:35to do

36:37to get his money.

36:39and we discuss how to murder people.

36:44I just have a few problems I want to dispose of.

36:46I have some rats I want to get rid of.

36:48Yeah.

36:49The only fucking thing I don't understand,

36:50don't you use a fucking piece of iron to get rid of these fucking people?

36:53You use this fucking siren?

36:54Why be messy?

36:56You can do it nice and calm.

36:58It became apparent at later points in the investigation

37:01that Mr. Kuklinski fully intended on murdering Dominic Polifrone

37:05in addition to the victims that were being discussed at the time

37:10they were having these tape-recorded conversations.

37:12So he could pretty much tell Dominic Polifrone anything

37:15because he knew shortly that he had plans for Mr. Polifrone too.

37:20You put that stuff in a mist, you spray it in somebody's face,

37:25and they go to sleep.

37:27No shit.

37:28As long as he's dead, that's the bottom line.

37:30Well, that's the thing, isn't it?

37:31No matter how it was done, I mean, I know guys that went to sleep

37:33and never woke up again, I mean, you know.

37:37He says he had one guy, he went and get a hamburger,

37:40they come back and he put the cyanide on his hamburger.

37:44And we're sitting down and he's telling me, he says,

37:46you wouldn't believe it, he says, I'm waiting for this guy to keel over,

37:49he says, because once you eat cyanide, usually you'd roll over and that's it.

37:54He says, this guy had the constitution of a fucking bull,

37:57he says, you wouldn't believe it.

37:59He says, he wouldn't die, and we're both laughing about this.

38:01And I'm saying in the back of my mind, I said, holy God, I said, look at this.

38:05I said, what kind of person is this?

38:08I said to myself right there, I said, you better cover your butt,

38:13I said, because you just don't know with this guy.

38:16And he'd be kidding about it and I'd be laughing,

38:18and in the back of my mind I'm saying, this is the devil.

38:22No question about it, this is the devil.

38:2510-9.

38:29On December 17, 1986, the Special Task Force set up a roadblock

38:35and arrested Richard Kuklinski outside his home in Dumont, New Jersey.

38:40They felt they had all the evidence they needed for a conviction.

38:45The whole road was blocked off for cops.

38:49Local police, state police.

38:53Division of Criminal Justice investigators.

38:56County personnel.

38:59There was no place for him to go, so he stopped his car.

39:03He was told to get out of the car, and he did not.

39:10So he was taken out of the car,

39:17and he was placed face down on a street

39:24in a position where we thought we were safe.

39:29And then I handcuffed him.

39:33That guy's big.

39:35I did everything I could to get one click on the handcuffs.

39:40And later on I tried to put leg irons on him,

39:43and there's no way they would go on.

39:47Law enforcement authorities have arrested

39:50one of the most notorious contract killers in state history.

39:54A self-employed Bergen County man is behind bars,

39:57charged with five murders,

39:59and prosecutors are investigating his involvement in dozens more.

40:03This is unwarranted. Unnecessary.

40:07These guys watch too many movies.

40:10He is such a cold-blooded killer, they call him the Iceman.

40:14After being convicted of two murders,

40:16he confessed to two others in court today.

40:18I shot George Malliband five times.

40:22Lewis Mazgay on July 1, 1981.

40:28I shot him once in the back of the head.

40:32When the judge asked him why he had killed the two men,

40:35Kuklinski replied,

40:37It was due to business.

40:39Dominic Polifrone's tapes had nailed Kuklinski,

40:42but in court, the Iceman greeted the undercover cop with a smile.

40:48He seemed to be quite cheery about saying hello to you.

40:52Well, I reciprocated.

40:54The only thing is, I'm going home,

40:56and he's going to a different environment at the present time.

41:07It wasn't real to us.

41:09I just had a hard time dealing with what was in the press.

41:14And I kept saying, no way, and I don't believe it.

41:17And then when I actually heard his voice, you know, in court,

41:21it was very hard to believe that he talked like that.

41:24It was very, very difficult to believe.

41:27I've done it always.

41:28As far as you've known or heard,

41:31there isn't too many things I haven't tried.

41:33No matter how it was done, I mean, I know guys that went to sleep

41:36and I know cops that came to me, you know.

41:41The consensus of the federal, state, county

41:46and local law enforcement agencies that were involved in this investigation

41:50is that Richard Kuklinski is one of the most dangerous criminals

41:54we have ever come across in this state.

41:57Further, it's our feeling that he is of such a diabolical,

42:03methodical type of killer that it's very possible

42:08that when all is said and done,

42:10we still may never know how many people he has actually killed.

42:16What Richard has been accused of and found guilty of

42:19and spoke to you about goes against God and man.

42:25I have very strong feelings.

42:29I am totally anti-violence.

42:32As are my children.

42:38I can't make those wrongs right.

42:41I can't make them right in my own mind.

42:49We are Richard Kuklinski's family

42:53and we aren't ourselves anymore.

42:58We're Richard Kuklinski's family.

43:03I've never felt sorry for anything I've done

43:07other than hurting my family.

43:10It's the only thing I feel sorry for.

43:19I'm not looking for forgiveness and I'm not repenting.

43:23I'm not repenting.

43:33No, I am wrong.

43:39I'm wrong.

43:41I do want my family to forgive me.

43:46Oh, boy.

43:49I'm going to make this one.

43:55Oh, shit.

43:59This would never be me.

44:01This would not be me.

44:08I feel for my family.

44:18I feel for my family.

44:31You see the ice men cry.

44:36Not very macho.

44:42But I've hurt

44:48everything to me.

44:57But the only people that mean anything to me.

45:18I've hurt everything to me.

45:48I've hurt everything to me.

46:18I've hurt everything to me.

46:48I've hurt everything to me.

The Iceman Confessions - Documentary - [Part 1] (Richard Kuklinski)

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