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00:00This week's Sanma and Matsuko are...
00:03The two new players who are now working at the Shinisei Entertainment Agency, HoriPro.
00:08The sports culture division with strong characters.
00:11And the HoriProcom impersonators who are slowly coming in.
00:15What is the secret to their rapid growth?
00:17HoriPro has been in the division since 2011.
00:20It's been in the division since 2011.
00:22It was in the active division.
00:25Among the sports culture division with strong characters,
00:29the former J.League player, Tomoaki Maki.
00:33Why did the former Japanese soccer player become a HoriPro?
00:38I'm doing this kind of work.
00:41It's amazing.
00:43I'm doing a morning program.
00:46It's a program from Hiroshima.
00:48I really want to do it.
00:50What is this erotic cosplay?
00:53And now, the HoriProcom impersonator division.
00:57Hori established a new impersonation business from scratch.
01:01What is their surprising plan?
01:03How many people do you have?
01:04About 30 million people.
01:06Do you run the business yourself?
01:08I don't have a framework.
01:10I say that, but if I don't have it, I can make it.
01:13Then I'll do it.
01:15There is a suspicion in Hori.
01:17Hori probably has a secret relationship with the office.
01:24What are you talking about?
01:2730 minutes approaching the birth of a popular athlete and the hard work of an entertainer.
01:33Wasn't it the most luxurious office?
01:36Haruka Ayase and Yuzo Kamiya and Satomi Ishihara.
01:42Kyoko Fukada, Haruka Ayase, and Satomi Ishihara.
01:46There are many popular actors in Hori.
01:51Is it because of their talent?
01:54There is a sports culture division of Hori.
02:00Mr. Nikuyo is in Hori.
02:02I don't know who he is.
02:06He is the same as Mr. Sanba.
02:08What's wrong with him?
02:12He is not here now.
02:15He is doing a live show at Shimoneta.
02:20His catchphrase is,
02:22Even if you close your lower mouth, you can close your upper mouth.
02:26Mr. Izumi.
02:28This three-shot doesn't look good.
02:32I thought it was a strange answer.
02:35What is this, a self-proclaimed American?
02:37That's right, that's right.
02:38By the way, there are almost three Japan members.
02:42Among the sports culture clubs with such unique personalities,
02:46the one who is very busy now is the former Japanese soccer representative, Tomoaki Makino.
02:51In the first place, why did he, who was a soccer player,
02:54decide to join the entertainment production?
02:57We approach the mystery.
02:59Yes, this is Mr. Makino.
03:01He's been in Hori Pro since 2011.
03:03That's right, it was in 2011.
03:05Wasn't he in active service?
03:06He was in active service,
03:08so he retired and is now in Hori Pro.
03:13Actually, I joined Hori Pro a long time ago.
03:16Takeda Nobuhiro, a former J.League player who has been active in variety shows
03:20as a sweet mask and a bright character since the early days of the sports culture club.
03:26Makino was the one who Hori Pro paid attention to as Takeda.
03:30At that time, there was an offer from Saburecchi Hiroshima.
03:35What was the offer like at the beginning?
03:38It was like this.
03:39Saburecchi thought that he would be eaten by the Tokyo entertainment industry.
03:46At that time, when I got a call from the team,
03:49it wasn't a good time for the president to come to the practice room.
03:54Oh, I see.
03:55So I went to my place and asked him to come to the second floor.
03:58When I was called, I got a call from Hori Pro.
04:02At that time, I didn't know anything about entertainment production.
04:08Of course, it's soccer.
04:09I've only played soccer, so I didn't know where entertainment production was or what Hori Pro was.
04:16You didn't want to be an entertainer, did you?
04:18I didn't.
04:19What is Hori Pro? Is it a morning girl?
04:21I had that kind of feeling.
04:23Did you think you were scouted by MONS?
04:25That's right.
04:26Hori Pro!
04:27That's weird.
04:29That's not good.
04:30How can you join MONS?
04:32I thought I could meet MONS.
04:34Hori Pro, Hello Pro.
04:35I grew up with Morning Musume as an idol in elementary school.
04:40So I thought I could join Morning Musume.
04:45So you thought you could meet them.
04:47Hori Pro came to see me on the phone.
04:50He said he wanted to work with me.
04:53The team and the agency talked about it for a year.
04:56And a year later, I joined Hori Pro.
04:58That's amazing.
05:00It's a series of offers.
05:01That's right.
05:02Until then, it was through a variety show team.
05:06That's right.
05:07Everyone came out before J-1 was born.
05:09That's right.
05:10People came out to support J-1.
05:13But at that time, there was no such thing.
05:15The team was concerned about making me naked.
05:20I was going to be on TV with just one pair of pants.
05:24Why?
05:25Why?
05:26I was going to be on TV with just one pair of pants.
05:30I was worried that my players would do that.
05:33It's like a comedy.
05:35That's right.
05:36I'm a soccer player, but I'm going to be on TV with just one pair of pants.
05:41I was worried about that.
05:45That's right.
05:46You have to spend a year to do that.
05:49You have to spend a year to do that.
05:50That's right.
05:51In 2011, he became a soccer player and a talent of Hori Pro.
05:58His current job is a variety show.
06:05That's amazing.
06:07I do a lot of things.
06:09TV, radio...
06:11That's amazing.
06:12That's right.
06:13That's amazing.
06:14I do various contents.
06:18That's right.
06:19I do various contents.
06:20I also do commentary.
06:22I do a variety of radio programs.
06:24That's right.
06:25I am currently working at the Japanese Soccer Association.
06:28I'm an ambassador of Japanese Sports in Japan.
06:32I see.
06:33He is doing amazing.
06:34He is doing amazing.
06:35Makino has more than just his face as an entertainer.
06:39In 2018, he launched the men's beauty brand, Haruten.
06:44And in his TV career, he did something that most athletes wouldn't do.
06:50Here it is.
06:51What is this erotic cosplay?
06:53No, no, no.
06:55Hey!
06:56When I retire, I want to be on a show in Hiroshima.
07:02This is a show where you play soccer and interact with the locals.
07:08First, you ask them where they want to go.
07:12Then, you get on the bus and go to your destination.
07:15You've already walked more than 50 kilometers.
07:18You've crossed a mountain.
07:19I'm still shivering, but I can't move my thighs.
07:24Your thighs are amazing.
07:25You're the representative of Japan.
07:28I can't move them.
07:29You can't move them?
07:30What are you talking about?
07:31Have you ever been on a roller coaster?
07:34No.
07:35When two adults get on it, they can't go beyond the mountain.
07:38But Makino does that.
07:41That's right.
07:42He wants to sell it.
07:45Two adults can't go more than 10 kilometers.
07:49So Makino does that.
07:51That's right.
07:53Call me a guest.
07:54I'll get on it.
07:55I'll get on it.
07:56I'll call you Horigawa Makino.
08:00That's not true.
08:03Makino has a bigger ambition.
08:07My biggest goal is to become a coach.
08:09I'm learning how to look at the field.
08:13I want to be a local coach.
08:16This year, he became a coach for the Shinagawa Culture Club.
08:22He's starting to walk the path of a coach.
08:26You don't have a team yet, do you?
08:28I don't have a J-League team.
08:29You don't?
08:30Do you want to have a team?
08:31I see.
08:32You have to have a team to win a match.
08:34That's right.
08:35You're great.
08:37You're very active.
08:39You're very busy.
08:40No, I'm not.
08:41When you go to DAZN or other channels,
08:44you see photos of Makino doing stop-motion.
08:47He's doing this and that.
08:49He doesn't like it.
08:50What's wrong with him?
08:51He doesn't like DAZN or other channels.
08:55He likes Shorin-san-chan.
08:56TV is the best.
08:57TV is the best.
08:58That's too much.
09:00The two new teams that will make a comeback in Hori Pro.
09:04What's next?
09:06Hori Hikiru and Hori Procom.
09:14Hori Procom is a comedy team of Hori Pro.
09:17They are popular entertainers such as Banana Man, The Touch, and Shimada Shuhei.
09:24But Hori Pro still has a lot of history.
09:28When Hori Pro was founded, it was a bit of a hit.
09:32Ariyoshi-san, you often say that Hori Pro is like a subcontractor.
09:35Ariyoshi-san really likes this story.
09:38Every time I'm on Ariyoshi-san's walk show,
09:41when I'm with Imori-san,
09:43I'm like a subcontractor and a subcontractor.
09:48I'm a subcontractor and a subcontractor.
09:50Are you a subcontractor?
09:51I'm not a subcontractor.
09:52Hori Pro Holdings became a group company.
09:56So, we're all in the same position.
09:58We're all in the same position.
10:00But if you ask me if I'm a subcontractor,
10:03I'm not a subcontractor.
10:07But now, you're all side by side, right?
10:10That's right.
10:11But I can feel the wall.
10:13You can feel the wall?
10:14Really?
10:15Can you tell Hori Procom people the password to their Wi-Fi?
10:20I'm not a subcontractor.
10:22This is really...
10:23This is true, right?
10:24It's the same with the password.
10:26There's a rehearsal room.
10:27There's a rehearsal room for Hori Procom comedians.
10:30There's a Wi-Fi tunnel here.
10:32So, if you don't open it, there's a signal coming in.
10:36Actually, there's another trick.
10:38If it's a password that Hori Procom people know,
10:40it'll work even if you close it.
10:41What?
10:42If it's a password that Hori Procom people know,
10:44if you close it, it'll be blocked.
10:47Really?
10:48Is there a Wi-Fi tunnel in your home?
10:50I don't care.
10:51I don't use Wi-Fi at all.
10:53That's because you're stressed.
10:55That's true.
10:56I'm not stressed at all.
10:58There's a thick Wi-Fi tunnel.
11:01It's thick.
11:02Thick Wi-Fi.
11:03Hori Procom people can feel the wall,
11:05but Hori Procom people can also be noticed by Hori Procom people.
11:10Among the members of Hori Procom,
11:12there's a group of impersonators,
11:14who are now growing in strength.
11:18Behind this counter-attack,
11:20there's a hidden villain of Hori,
11:22who is a super producer.
11:24I'll take it.
11:25Okay.
11:26Hori Procom impersonator group.
11:30That's amazing.
11:31Lucky-chan is here.
11:34I was originally in Hori Procom,
11:37but Hori Procom grew little by little.
11:41Kouhei Kawaguchi,
11:43Asuko Saguchi,
11:46and Risa Haru,
11:48who impersonates Mr. Hamada.
11:51There were many impersonators.
11:53Then, Jackie and Sara joined Hori Procom.
11:57Then, the manager of Hori Procom said,
11:59let's make Hori Procom a military group.
12:01He said, let's make Hori Procom a military group.
12:03Then, Hori Procom grew like this.
12:05And then,
12:07the manager who said, let's make Hori Procom a military group,
12:11quit Hori Procom one after another.
12:13At that time, the world was in a pandemic.
12:16The manager quit Hori Procom one after another.
12:20Hori Procom suddenly had to take care of a group of 20 people.
12:25But the tragedy wasn't over yet.
12:27Oh, he attacked.
12:29He's the salesman.
12:31All the impersonators are in trouble.
12:33I don't know what to say.
12:35It's all about Zoom sales.
12:37There was.
12:39The video was played at the venue.
12:41It's not a venue.
12:43I've done it before.
12:45No one comes to the venue.
12:47Individuals are on Zoom.
12:49So, everyone is doing it on Zoom.
12:51Everyone is watching it on Zoom.
12:53At home.
12:55Individuals are watching it.
12:57I don't know about corporate parties.
12:59I don't know about corporate parties.
13:01I don't know about corporate parties.
13:03What?
13:05I don't think anyone has been to the factory.
13:07The employees are actually on Zoom.
13:09They are shooting the video.
13:11It's a big deal.
13:13The impersonators are doing various things.
13:17Hori Procom has survived the pandemic by doing remote sales.
13:21He's going to a tourist area.
13:24This is the strategy.
13:26He's going to take a group of people to a local market.
13:29I'm from Jipa Prefecture.
13:33I asked the company to sponsor me.
13:37I asked the company to sponsor me.
13:39I was a salesman.
13:41I made a program with that know-how.
13:43I made a program with that know-how.
13:45I made a program with that know-how.
13:47I made a program with that know-how.
13:49How much did you collect in three years?
13:51I made about 30 million yen.
13:53You went to a local market yourself.
13:55I went to a local market myself.
13:57I made a program with that know-how.
13:59I went to a company.
14:01I made a program with that know-how.
14:03I made a program with that know-how.
14:05I made a program with that know-how.
14:07Instead of shooting the program and broadcasting it,
14:09you received money from the company?
14:11You received money from the company?
14:13You should do your best!
14:15You are Hori!
14:17Hori has made a new connection with his absolute efforts.
14:21It's disgusting.
14:23You look like an unofficial character of white stone in Chiba prefecture.
14:25It's a very old yuru character.
14:26After this, what's the story of Chiba's yuru character that nobody knows?
14:30The old man who lives in the countryside is trying his best.
14:33If he's there, he's older than me.
14:36What?
14:37To be continued.
14:38I think we should do that.
14:41For those who want to see it again, please watch it on Tver or U-NEXT.
14:44As a leader of the impersonation army, Hori made Chiba a business.
14:49And he discovered a yuru character that the people of Chiba don't know.
14:53The connection in Chiba is amazing.
14:56And he got this kind of connection.
14:58What is that?
15:00It's a Jinenger.
15:01It's so dirty.
15:02It's an unofficial Yuru character from Chiba.
15:05Unofficial?
15:06Of course!
15:07There's no way this is official!
15:08Don't talk nonsense!
15:10There's a Yuru character called Nashibo.
15:13It doesn't really work,
15:15so I made a Jinenger to support it.
15:19He's a classmate of Horii-san.
15:22He's a staff member of the White City Office.
15:25He's a man in his 50s.
15:27He's in his 30s!
15:29As you get older, you get more and more persistent.
15:32You're right, but he's still in his 30s!
15:36He's older than me!
15:39That cute move!
15:42I'm going to die this summer!
15:46He hasn't changed!
15:48He's still the same!
15:50He still has a long way to go.
15:52He's still in his 40s.
15:54Did you include Horii-san in the Jinenger?
15:56Of course I did!
15:58But he's the opening actor for the Horii-san impersonation show.
16:02Then let's go to Kurokoji.
16:04He's a Jinenger.
16:06Horii-san got Chiba.
16:09It's the best!
16:11I don't care if you're a Jinenger or not!
16:14I'm still the same!
16:16Don't talk like you're the same!
16:19Horii has done a lot of business.
16:23What kind of strategy did he come up with?
16:26Here's the first one.
16:29He's aiming for this company.
16:32It's a pharmaceutical company.
16:34It's a health insurance company.
16:36He's aiming for this company.
16:38It's a company with a lot of people.
16:41I see.
16:43It's a pharmaceutical company.
16:45There's a company party all over the country.
16:48I'm in charge of Hokkaido this year.
16:51I'm in charge of Shizuoka.
16:53I'm in charge of Tohoku.
16:55There are about 20 impersonators.
16:57They gather around the same time.
16:59They gather around Japan.
17:01There are a lot of them.
17:03Last year, Tohoku was good.
17:05Next year, Hokkaido.
17:07There are a lot of companies.
17:09It's the same as a health insurance company.
17:11There are older women in Seiho.
17:14It's a health insurance company.
17:17It's very powerful.
17:19If you receive a lot of money there,
17:22It's good for men to move to a different area.
17:27I see.
17:28There's another special strategy.
17:31Horii, please tell us.
17:33Impersonators are suitable for local companies.
17:36That's what it is now.
17:38It's not a secret.
17:40It doesn't matter to the viewers.
17:42That's right.
17:43It's not just about sponsors.
17:45It doesn't matter if it's irregular.
17:47It doesn't matter if it's irregular.
17:49It's okay.
17:51I've done a lot of things I can't do.
17:54I don't have a frame.
17:57I say that.
17:59If you don't have a frame, you can make it.
18:02That's amazing.
18:04If you ask a sponsor to do it, you can do it.
18:08I've done a lot of things.
18:10I've done three or four programs.
18:14There are people who are doing their best in this program.
18:20What do you think?
18:22I'm going to a place where they don't go.
18:25I don't think anyone will buy a frame and make it on Shiba TV.
18:30That's amazing.
18:31I think it's amazing.
18:34That's what I think now.
18:37What?
18:38Hori knows the office and negotiations well.
18:43After this, Hori has a suspicion.
18:46Hori has a secret relationship with the office.
18:51Hori!
18:52What are you talking about?
18:55Hori is older than me.
18:57Hori is older than me.
19:00And cute movements.
19:02Hori has a suspicion.
19:09Hori knows the office and negotiations well.
19:14What are you talking about?
19:16Hori has a secret relationship with Shimada.
19:23Shimada talked to Hori.
19:26He talked to me and the whole company.
19:29He said, let's negotiate with the office.
19:32Shimada brought it to me.
19:34Hori said, I'll try it.
19:39Hori went to negotiate.
19:41When I came back, I asked him how Shimada was doing.
19:44Hori said, let's not talk about it anymore.
19:49Hori has a secret relationship with the office.
19:55He said, let's not talk about it anymore.
20:01Maybe he's a spy.
20:03He was at the head office.
20:05Shimada was at the head office.
20:07What are you talking about?
20:11Don't tell us.
20:14What are you talking about?
20:17Mr. Hori is...
20:21Mr. Hori is...
20:24Did you cut the card at the office?
20:28You can't cut the card.
20:30You can't say that.
20:32You can't say that.
20:34You can't say that.
20:36You can't say that.
20:38You shouldn't apologize to yourself.
20:40Apologize to yourself.
20:42I'm really sorry.
20:45The last thing I want to say is that Hori is a good office.