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00:00Today's guest is Mr. Masaaki Sakai.
00:04Nice to meet you.
00:06You're still so stylish.
00:10Who influenced you?
00:14I like dressing up.
00:18There are many stylists out there,
00:24but I decided to wear socks today.
00:28I like your socks.
00:30They're brown and black.
00:34I was wondering what kind of socks would look good on me.
00:40I see.
00:41There are a lot of mistakes.
00:42I see.
00:43But if it goes well, I can have a fun day.
00:48I can't have a fun day.
00:50I've been thinking,
00:52Oh, no!
00:54I don't like that.
00:56You can see what I'm wearing
01:00before I talk to you.
01:03Which way should I talk to you?
01:05I don't like that.
01:07It's weird to talk to you face to face.
01:09I'm the one who's annoyed.
01:13Do something about it.
01:15That's right.
01:17That's what I'm told.
01:19I'll talk to you from here again.
01:22Don't abuse the old man.
01:26I just realized that.
01:29I don't want to get in the way.
01:32If you say something,
01:34I have to react to it.
01:36I don't like this position.
01:39You have to talk to me.
01:41I'll talk to you.
01:43I'll talk to you.
01:45I'll talk to you.
01:49I'll put up with it.
01:51I want you to put up with me.
01:54That's right.
01:56You've been on this show more than 20 times.
01:59I want you to put up with me as much as possible.
02:04There are so many guests who are older than me.
02:06I have to look around.
02:09I'm going to turn around.
02:11I'm turning around.
02:14I fell in love with someone.
02:16I fell in love with someone.
02:18I fell in love with Mr. Kamiya.
02:23The legend of the Spiders is revealed now.
02:28Mr. Kenji Sawada was there at that time.
02:31I thought he was a very lucky person.
02:35And then I met Mr. Kenji Sawada, who was unknown at the time.
02:40It's time.
02:42It's time for the Spiders.
02:44It's not a drama.
02:46I'm going down.
02:48Is that so?
02:49Yes.
02:51I'm going to ask a lot of questions about the entertainment world of Showa.
03:01Tsurume and Sawako.
03:03Showa's great seniors and weird people.
03:06Bang! Bang! Bang!
03:09I've been in the entertainment world for a long time.
03:12I've given it all.
03:13Spiders, too.
03:15I've been in the entertainment world since the early days.
03:20I was confident about being on TV.
03:29I used to be on stage.
03:33It's my...
03:37That's funny.
03:40It's annoying.
03:41I'm talking about good things.
03:43You don't have to come at that time.
03:46It's important to pretend not to be there.
03:48That's good.
03:49I'll pretend not to be there.
03:51I'll pretend not to be there for a while.
03:53I was on stage.
03:55I was training myself to fly a watch.
03:59It's a little different from the fact that the radio makes it easier to fly.
04:04I did my best.
04:08I started doing TV from that time.
04:11I'm sorry.
04:15I started doing it.
04:18About 50 years?
04:20That's right.
04:21It's been over 50 years.
04:23The era of TV.
04:24Before that, we were in the era of hell.
04:26It was hell.
04:27Hell, hell.
04:29I've been through a lot.
04:33When I saw it, it was very popular.
04:36It sold well, but it was hell.
04:39At the beginning of the Spiders, it was really miserable.
04:46Nakaomie's Kawaii Baby was a hit.
04:50Fighting Harada was the boxing world champion.
04:56Showa 37.
05:00Masaaki Sakai, 16 years old, entering high school.
05:06He joined the Spiders.
05:09But it was a big deal at the time.
05:13There were seven members of the Spiders.
05:16Seven people were on stage and three people were watching.
05:21What are you going to do?
05:23I told him to change.
05:25Why did you have so many people?
05:27It would have been nice if there were only four people.
05:29Tanabe-san gathered them, right?
05:31Tanabe-san gathered the members.
05:35The members had changed.
05:37But Tanabe-san said,
05:39This group will definitely sell.
05:42So he gathered them.
05:44I was the last member before Jun Inoue.
05:50Kamaishi-san came out and came in.
05:54He came out and came in, but he didn't get angry at all.
05:58He didn't get angry at all.
06:01There was a time when Kamaishi-san was already a guest.
06:06He wasn't there.
06:08As soon as the song sold, he became a member.
06:13But he didn't like it.
06:15Even if you listen to it later.
06:17It's a bit of a denial to sell a song like that.
06:25As a musician, I like rock and roll.
06:29I used to like Bruce Anders.
06:32I was a little worried that it would sell like a pop song.
06:39There are two kinds of Spiders' songs.
06:42It's like a pop song.
06:44It's a very experimental song.
06:50It's just a popular singer.
06:52I think it was attractive that he kept going in different directions.
06:57But what was in the roots was rock and roll.
07:06I've always wanted to do that kind of thing.
07:10Kamaishi-san was the one who made it bloom.
07:15The different flowers that came out of the roots here
07:20Most of the songs were written by different teachers.
07:27Sakai-san has reached his peak many times.
07:33As the son of Sakai Shunji, he was scouted by Tanabe-san.
07:38I don't know why I have to talk about it.
07:41Spiders became very popular.
07:44It's been two or three years.
07:48It was fast.
07:50It was fast to go up, but it was also fast to fall.
07:54There are a lot of videos.
07:56There are a lot of girls.
07:59At that time, it was very popular.
08:02I feel like I'm getting on.
08:04I can't have Jun Inoue and Sakai-san.
08:07I'll hold anything.
08:10You did your best.
08:13I can't talk to Jun Inoue anymore.
08:16I'm going to sing soon.
08:20We're not a comic band.
08:25Tanabe-san got angry at me.
08:28But the stage was fun.
08:31If you don't have fun, you can't finish it.
08:35There was a situation like that.
08:38At a jazz cafe, there was only one person sitting.
08:44He didn't sit so far away.
08:47He sat in front of me.
08:49I said, I'll go from the first song.
08:51Can I get a theme song?
08:54I said, what?
08:56He said, I got it.
08:58I said, let's go.
09:01When I came out, the power went out.
09:05What happened?
09:08The manager said,
09:10I turned off the power.
09:12It's a waste of electricity.
09:15He called me.
09:17But I couldn't perform as it was.
09:21He said, I'm sorry.
09:23I said, I'll turn it off.
09:25I felt a lot of humiliation.
09:29But later, when I went there,
09:32I was surprised to hear that he turned off the power.
09:36He disappeared.
09:38He disappeared with the power.
09:41Did he disappear?
09:43I think the manager is like that.
09:45When I was in junior high school,
09:48in the pre-war period of the group,
09:51I used to chase my friends who liked the Spiders.
09:56It was near Shinanomachi Station.
09:58A thousand days...
10:01A thousand days ago.
10:03A thousand days ago.
10:05I heard there were Spiders.
10:07So I went to the Seirafuku school.
10:10There were a lot of female students.
10:13There were members of Military Look, like Mr. Machiaki.
10:18We talked.
10:20My family was strict.
10:22I told my friend to go home early.
10:25When I was about to go home,
10:27Mr. Machiaki came up to me and said,
10:29Are you going home already?
10:31He said,
10:33Are you going home already?
10:35Stay a little longer.
10:37I was moved.
10:39Since then?
10:41Yes.
10:43That was the first time we met.
10:45For me.
10:47I don't know if you remember.
10:49A thousand days ago.
10:51Is that your father's personality?
10:54I don't know.
10:56It's rare.
10:58It's rare for an ordinary person to say,
11:01Stay a little longer.
11:03It's rare.
11:05Like Mr. Tsurube.
11:07Maybe it's because of the era of Chueh.
11:10The way we talk has changed a lot.
11:14Maybe it's because of what we've been doing.
11:18I think so.
11:20I see.
11:22I'll see you again.
11:24We haven't changed.
11:26I think so.
11:28He still has a producer's mind.
11:31He never disappears.
11:33Was he a producer from the beginning?
11:36I think so.
11:38He has a very strong feeling.
11:40He was a drummer.
11:42He said,
11:44Don't do what you know the answer to.
11:47It's interesting because you don't know the answer.
11:51Let's go that way.
11:54He's still like that.
11:56He's still like that.
11:58You met a good person.
12:00If it wasn't for him,
12:02I wouldn't have been able to do my best.
12:06I think there was a part of me that failed.
12:09He always said,
12:11It's going to get better.
12:13It's going to get better every day.
12:15The image.
12:17He inherited this.
12:19He did his best every day.
12:22It was tough.
12:24Is Mr. Tanabe older than you?
12:26Yes.
12:28Mr. Tanabe is older than me.
12:31The entertainment industry is also older than me.
12:35It's tough.
12:37Usually, when the band is over,
12:40we all go out for a drink.
12:44We all get together and have a good time.
12:48We eat.
12:50It's good to have a good time.
12:52But I was told,
12:54Don't talk on the stage.
12:56It's not good.
12:58I was told that.
13:00Most of the time,
13:02Jun Inoue is the one who makes a claim.
13:06Did you listen to Jun Inoue?
13:08Yes, I did.
13:10But at one point,
13:12I couldn't stand it anymore,
13:14so I jumped out.
13:16That was when I was practicing
13:18with Mr. Tanabe.
13:20You couldn't stand it anymore?
13:22I couldn't stand it anymore.
13:24He said,
13:26What's your chorus?
13:28I said, Stop the chorus.
13:30I wasn't good at it at the time.
13:32I couldn't help it.
13:34I said, I'll stop it.
13:36But Jun Inoue was the best among the Spiders.
13:40He had that face and that sense.
13:42There were two of them.
13:44But he was the youngest,
13:46so I thought,
13:48I wasn't talking to him,
13:50I was talking to everyone.
13:52I was talking to everyone.
13:54Then he said,
13:56What is it?
13:58He brought a glass dish.
14:00Everyone avoided it.
14:06What is it?
14:08Did you throw the dish?
14:10No, I didn't.
14:12I wasn't good at it.
14:14Everyone avoided it.
14:16Then he left.
14:18There were six members left.
14:20The next day,
14:22we had to perform
14:24the first act
14:26of the group
14:28called Beach Boys.
14:30There were six of us.
14:32Didn't Mr. Inoue come?
14:34No, he didn't.
14:36We did it.
14:38Then the chorus was beautiful.
14:40Poor Jun.
14:42So I thought,
14:44I don't need him anymore.
14:46No, no.
14:48I can't answer that.
14:50But the members were interesting.
14:52They were different ages.
14:54They were different ages.
14:56But Mr. Inoue was cool, too.
14:58He was sweet.
15:00He had a great courage
15:02and a great spirit of service.
15:04He had a spirit of service
15:06that was more than necessary.
15:08Don't make me say it.
15:10I was very anxious.
15:12There was a scene
15:14where the sun was crying.
15:16There was a scene
15:18called Western Carnival.
15:20When the sun was crying
15:22and the Spiders came up,
15:24there was a sunbeam.
15:26There were three or four sunbeams.
15:28All of the audience
15:30came up to the Spiders
15:32and sang
15:34the song
15:36of the sun crying.
15:38When the sun was crying,
15:40the Spiders came up.
15:42Mr. Inoue said,
15:44If you ask someone
15:46to love you,
15:48that person will sing
15:50the song of love.
15:52If you ask someone
15:54to love you,
15:56that person will sing
15:58the song of love.
16:00I thought it was strange.
16:02I thought it was strange.
16:04I was singing in the front row
16:06I was like, what? Who is this?
16:10Then I saw Inoe-san's hand behind the chorus.
16:16I thought, this is bad.
16:18This is going to ruin my position.
16:21So I dragged Inoe-san into the world of comedy.
16:24Ah, the second world.
16:26I don't know.
16:27But the part he pulled out for me was really big.
16:33Why were you scouted by Tanabe-san in the first place?
16:38Who? Me?
16:39Yes, Sakai-san.
16:40It's a long story, so I'll keep it short.
16:45I wanted to sing.
16:47I had been learning jazz, standard jazz.
16:51I was thinking of taking that path.
16:55But my father told me not to enter this world a year ago.
16:59He told you?
17:00He absolutely refused.
17:02He said, this world is tough, so quit.
17:06As a parent...
17:07He told me to take a more solid path.
17:11I asked him for 500 yen a year.
17:16In the end, he gave up.
17:18When he gave up,
17:20my father's acquaintances and other people
17:27told me to quit what my son wanted to do
17:31and take a side path.
17:33There were people who told you that?
17:35There were.
17:36So I said, why don't I let him do what he wants to do?
17:42And he said OK.
17:44When he said OK, he became very cooperative.
17:49At that time,
17:51I asked Mr. Hori of Hori Pro
17:55if my son wanted to sing a song like that.
18:01He said he had a band called Spiders.
18:04It's not a famous band yet, but they have a band called Spiders.
18:07He asked me to join them.
18:11So I joined Spiders.
18:13Mr. Hori told you?
18:14Yes.
18:15He asked you to join Spiders?
18:17Who was in Spiders at that time?
18:19Was there a member of Spiders at that time?
18:21No, there wasn't.
18:23It was a completely different band.
18:25So I joined Spiders.
18:27I was happy that I got a license as a professional.
18:31But I was worried that I wouldn't be able to do it.
18:35I was so worried.
18:37I thought I shouldn't do it.
18:41I thought it was a group that couldn't sing.
18:45But Mr. Tanabe's spirit was very strong.
18:51So I didn't quit.
18:53After a few years,
18:55the members of Spiders came.
18:57Mr. Kamayasu came,
18:59Mr. Jun Inoue came,
19:01and Mr. Takaiki Inoue in the back.
19:03Mr. Takaiki Inoue was a guitarist at first.
19:05He must have been very good.
19:07Did he sing?
19:09He danced and sang.
19:11Did he dance?
19:13I've taught him how to dance.
19:15I've taught him how to dance and sing.
19:17One day,
19:19I asked Mr. Tanabe to play the guitar.
19:21You asked him to focus on playing the guitar.
19:23But he was so good.
19:25It took half a year.
19:27At that time,
19:29there were other members.
19:31For example, Tempters.
19:33Blue Comets.
19:35Tigers.
19:37Tigers, Tempters.
19:39Wild Ones.
19:42Jaguars.
19:44You know a lot.
19:46Jaguars!
19:48It was a long time ago.
19:50But I was able to play the guitar.
19:52Spiders came.
19:54Spiders came.
19:56At first,
19:58there were only Blue Comets and Spiders.
20:00At first,
20:02there were only Blue Comets and Spiders.
20:04Then,
20:06Blue Shadows came.
20:08Then,
20:11I played guitar.
20:13It was a good song.
20:15Yuhei was a crybaby.
20:17But this song is like Wallpaper.
20:19Yes.
20:21This song is like Wallpaper.
20:24Blue Comets came.
20:26Spiders were not good.
20:28Why?
20:30They were provoking.
20:32Blue Comets were like salarymen.
20:34They wore suits.
20:36That was the time.
20:38It's amazing.
20:40He said it's no good to provoke, so I said I'll make it a miso soup.
20:45This is a game.
20:47I know.
20:48At the end, it's a great era.
20:50In that era, it came out with a thump, thump, thump.
20:52When I went to a fan club in Kyoto, there were about 200 girls.
20:59I asked them to tell me their favorite food.
21:02It was a fan club.
21:03When I looked at it, there were about five men.
21:07I asked them what they were doing.
21:09They said they were in a band.
21:11In Kyoto?
21:12Yes, in Kyoto.
21:13That's the Tigers.
21:16Did you sit there?
21:17Yes.
21:18I was at my fan club.
21:19I didn't pay for the ticket.
21:20You didn't pay for the ticket.
21:22That's not good.
21:24So what did you do?
21:26There was a group called Funnies.
21:28Funnies?
21:29Yes.
21:30In front of the Tigers?
21:31Yes.
21:32I asked them if they wanted to be a professional.
21:34They said they wanted to be a professional.
21:37At that time, Kenji Sawada was there.
21:40I thought he was a great person.
21:43When I saw him, I could understand his aura.
21:45He had an aura.
21:47But he said,
21:48You should think about becoming a professional.
21:51It's hard.
21:52It's tough.
21:53It's tough.
21:54He said that.
21:56Half a year later, he stepped on us with a cane.
22:02We experienced the toughness of being a professional.
22:05That was amazing.
22:08They were so energetic.
22:10We were on the concrete.
22:15We were running on the concrete.
22:17We were running at such a high speed.
22:20That's amazing.
22:22When they were on the first stage,
22:24the audience was so excited.
22:27We were watching them.
22:29We sang together.
22:32When we came back,
22:34they said,
22:35Thank you for your hard work.
22:37I looked at their faces.
22:39They looked at my face and said,
22:41Thank you for your hard work.
22:45That's a good line.
22:47We can't use it now.
22:50You were so popular.
22:54What did you do after that?
22:56What did you think of yourself?
22:58After that, TV became my main job.
23:04I see.
23:05You appeared in Spiders.
23:08Yes.
23:09I was so lucky at the beginning.
23:14After this,
23:15we will listen to the behind-the-scenes story of the popular drama,
23:19Spiders.
23:25We will change the scenes of the drama.
23:30Kiki Kirin and Asada Miyoko.
23:34They said,
23:36This is not a drama.
23:38I will get off.
23:40They wrote two lines.
23:42Really?
23:43Yes.
23:44Yuzo Kayama's
23:50Kimi to Itsu Mademo ga Hittoshi.
23:54It was the 40th anniversary of the founding of the Japanese Soccer League.
24:03Masaaki Sakai's popular drama,
24:07Jikan Desu Yo!
24:12Mr. Nukoda.
24:13Mr. Nukoda wrote the drama at first.
24:18We will change the scenes of the drama.
24:23We will change the scenes of Kiki Kirin and Asada Miyoko.
24:30When Mr. Nukoda saw the drama,
24:34he said,
24:35This is not a drama.
24:38Mr. Nukoda said,
24:39This is not a drama.
24:42I will get off.
24:44He wrote two lines.
24:47Is that so?
24:48Yes.
24:49Mr. Nukoda and Mr. Sakai
24:52came up with the idea.
24:54They said,
24:55This is interesting.
24:57That's you, right?
24:58That's part of it.
25:00It's not just that.
25:02I see.
25:03So, Mr. Nukoda got off,
25:05and Mr. Sakai answered.
25:09It wasn't a drama.
25:12Of course, Mr. Morimitsuko and Mr. Funakoshi
25:15were in charge of the drama.
25:20But when they came to us,
25:22they didn't have that kind of strategy.
25:25I called them guerrillas.
25:30I added those things little by little.
25:33But Mr. Kuje protected it.
25:37That's great.
25:39He didn't say,
25:40Mr. Nukoda, you'll be in trouble if you quit.
25:42He didn't say,
25:43I won't do that at all.
25:45He said,
25:46This drama will continue that kind of thing.
25:50So, Mr. Nukoda,
25:52I'm very sorry,
25:54but please write a better book
25:56for a better drama.
25:58So, Mr. Nukoda got off,
26:00and Mr. Funakoshi said,
26:02you can do more.
26:05So, the momentum of the time
26:08went in the same direction
26:10no matter who wrote it.
26:13It was like a human relationship
26:17was created.
26:19At that time,
26:20Mr. Kiki was a fan of Julie.
26:24He put up posters.
26:27Yes, I remember that.
26:30I didn't like it.
26:33Because he was a group member.
26:35He said,
26:36Good luck, you guys.
26:38He was strict.
26:40The impromptu comedy
26:43was influenced by his father.
26:47That's right.
26:48So, he has a lot of old parts.
26:51He has to do it himself.
26:53He has to do it himself.
26:55If he doesn't do it well,
26:57it's not good.
26:59Even if he does it himself,
27:01it's very difficult.
27:03For us.
27:05That's why I enjoyed
27:07the fun of making it.
27:11The most important thing for me,
27:13Mr. Nukoda,
27:15is to meet various good people.
27:19I don't mean to say that.
27:21I want to meet talented people.
27:23They will make me more excited.
27:27They will make me look bigger.
27:29I want to meet a lot of people like that.
27:32You want to meet a lot of people.
27:34It's the same with other varieties.
27:36It's the same with Chuubo.
27:38You made a culture on TV.
27:41Did you have that in mind?
27:43If you do this, you will get this.
27:45If you do that, you will get this.
27:47I didn't think about that.
27:50I just wanted to make myself look bigger.
27:55If you give me a chance,
27:57I will do it properly.
27:59You don't tell me
28:01what to do on this show, do you?
28:03No, I don't.
28:05I don't know.
28:07Are you sleepy?
28:09Wait a minute.
28:11If you're sleepy, I'll go home.
28:13I'm not sleepy.
28:15I'm not sleepy.
28:17You look even more sleepy.
28:19I'm not sleepy.
28:21I can talk to you.
28:23I was so excited yesterday.
28:25Really? Thank you.
28:27I was asked if I was sleepy.
28:29I'm not sleepy.
28:31I'm not sleepy at all.
28:33NHK obtained the video.
28:37After this,
28:39he talked about his memories with his father, Shunji Sakai.
28:43My father's position
28:45was always second or third.
28:49As I got older,
28:51I started to think
28:53that my father's art style
28:55was smart.
28:57It was good, wasn't it?
28:59Yes, it was.
29:01His occupation is different,
29:03but his father,
29:05Masaaki Sakai,
29:07went down the same path
29:09as Shunji Sakai.
29:12Did your father give you any advice?
29:16Not at all.
29:18No advice.
29:20The times were different.
29:22My father also said,
29:24so you should do it
29:26at your own pace.
29:28My father's era
29:30was like a family.
29:36My father's position
29:38was always second or third.
29:42When I went to the theater,
29:44I always watched my father's performance
29:46from the lighting room.
29:48When I asked him to go out,
29:50he wouldn't go out.
29:52I asked him if he could pick it up.
29:54He wouldn't pick it up.
29:56That was his style.
29:58His son was sharp.
30:00He was like,
30:02should I go out?
30:04That was one of my father's
30:07philosophy.
30:09He had a great pleasure
30:11in making people do it.
30:14Did you ever play a leading role?
30:18No, I didn't.
30:20You didn't?
30:22There is a movie called
30:24Tefukin, which was
30:26broken in the movie.
30:28My father played the leading role.
30:32The other day,
30:34NHK released a movie called
30:36Family History.
30:38NHK got that movie.
30:41I have a poster of Tefukin
30:43displayed in my house.
30:45I always wondered
30:47what the movie would be like.
30:50I found it.
30:52I thought it would be
30:54something like a cinema
30:56or an archive.
30:58I watched it at home.
31:01It was a 45-minute movie.
31:03It was boring.
31:05That's why I didn't want
31:07to be the leading role.
31:09I wanted to make people
31:11excited and
31:13make myself shine.
31:15That's why I wanted
31:17to be the leading role.
31:19But as a son,
31:21you wanted to sell yourself.
31:23I wanted to go out
31:25and make a difference.
31:27But I couldn't.
31:29I thought I couldn't.
31:31Did you think you couldn't?
31:33I thought I couldn't.
31:35But as I got older,
31:37I realized that
31:39my father's art was smart.
31:41I realized that.
31:43You were curious.
31:45I might have
31:47inherited some of that.
31:49I might have inherited some of that.
31:51But I didn't want to
31:53make a big difference.
31:55I didn't want to be
31:57a bad influence on people.
31:59I wanted to be
32:01a good influence
32:03on people.
32:05When you were young,
32:07you wanted to be
32:09the leading role.
32:11You wanted to be
32:13Jun Inoue.
32:15I was afraid of him.
32:17I was afraid of him.
32:19I was afraid of him.
32:21I was afraid of him.
32:23I was afraid of him.
32:25He became a lot more fun.
32:27He appeared in a lot of TV programs
32:29not on just the Suandali Declare
32:32but also in others.
32:34No, that didn't happen.
32:36Well.
32:38No, that didn't happen.
32:40That was a global event.
32:43Sorry.
32:45Every time I saw him at the premiere,
32:47every time I saw him at the premiere,
32:49I felt bored and stressed.
32:51I felt bored and stressed.
32:53I like a more calm Sakai-san.
32:59I think that kind of thing doesn't fit in with the trend of the world.
33:07When everyone talks about Sakai-san,
33:11even if they're bad at it, it's still funny.
33:17I think that kind of thing doesn't fit in with the trend of the world.
33:21Normally, Sakai-san was very quiet, right?
33:25When he came home, he was very quiet.
33:29I thought he wasn't there anymore,
33:33but when I looked for him, he wasn't there.
33:37Wait a minute, I want to wipe this.
33:40Please do it at that timing.
33:42I thought something was coming.
33:46That's how quiet he was.
33:49I've been shooting in Kyoto for a long time.
33:53In Chiyoya.
33:55In Chiyoya or Toei.
33:57Kyoto was a Mecca.
33:59In that sense, I shot in Kyoto for about half a year and came back for about a week.
34:06Then I went to Kyoto for about half a year and came back.
34:11That's how I live.
34:13I don't have a family.
34:15I don't have a picture of my father.
34:18But you're the youngest, right?
34:20How do you feel about being spoiled by your father?
34:24I've been able to put up with it since I was a kid.
34:29I used to think that I couldn't play catch with my father or go to the sea.
34:43So my mother had to play the role of my father.
34:48I think it was hard.
34:50But my father really wasn't there.
34:53Did you feel like your father wasn't there?
34:56He's there.
34:57He comes out when he's in the movie theater.
35:00He's here.
35:02He's there, but the cut is short.
35:07When I watched the movie, I wondered what my father was thinking.
35:14But when I think about how to protect my family and how to live as a family,
35:21I realize that I did my best in Kyoto.
35:24Now you understand.
35:26Now you finally understand.
35:28Now I understand that he was there.
35:31Mr. Shunji Sakai and Mr. Masaaki Sakai,
35:34your daughter is now an actress in Asadora.
35:41How do you feel?
35:43You must have been surprised.
35:45How do you feel?
35:46You said you were going to be an actor.
35:48No, no, no.
35:49Are you going to follow Sakai?
35:51I said I would follow Sakai.
35:53Did you say that yourself?
35:55I said it.
35:58My real name is Kurihara,
36:03so if I thought Sakai would end up in my father's time,
36:08I would have never imagined that my father would follow me.
36:15From now on, I want to spend a long time acting as an actress.
36:22There is a part where I follow my grandfather's blood.
36:27I'm the type of person who doesn't talk much.
36:31People will understand eventually.
36:33There is a drama coming out.
36:35I'm going to be recognized from now on.
36:37It's not just coming out.
36:39After all, I have to be recognized because I came out.
36:43I would be very happy if you could do it for a long time.
36:48I've been taking care of Sakai for 60 years.
36:56I'm happy to be able to give this to my daughter again.
37:00You're happy, aren't you?
37:02You want Sakai to continue acting.
37:04That's a good story.
37:07You have a good relationship with your daughter.
37:10I've never met a mother who raised me well.
37:14Do you often eat with your daughter?
37:17Yes, I do.
37:19You're happy, aren't you?
37:21Do you talk to your father?
37:23It's hard for me to be in the same world.
37:27It's a hot topic.
37:30I don't do that much.
37:33My father told me that it was because the times were different.
37:39I want to do what my daughter wants to do.
37:43I support her from a distance.
37:46I can't do it like a manager.
37:49Have you ever seen your daughter in a drama or a movie?
37:57I see it.
37:59How do you feel when you see it?
38:01I don't say what I should do.
38:05You don't say anything when you see it?
38:08I don't say anything.
38:14I'm acting.
38:17It's a little different from being on a talk show.
38:25It's easy to see.
38:28I don't see anything I'm in.
38:32I don't see it.
38:34I don't see it at all.
38:37Please see it.
38:40It's okay if you don't see it.
38:43I don't see it either.
38:46It's embarrassing.
38:48It's over.
38:50It's a matter of what the staff will do after this.
38:55I can't stand there.
38:59Everyone wants to edit themselves.
39:03I don't care about that.
39:06I don't watch dramas.
39:09Do you watch movies with Sayuri Yoshinaga?
39:12It's a little different.
39:15I watch it depending on what it is.
39:18I watch it when I have a sense of value.
39:21I watched it with Sayuri Yoshinaga.
39:24I can't watch it.
39:26I want to be with Sayuri Yoshinaga.
39:28He's my brother.
39:29He's my brother.
39:31You can't imagine it.
39:33I can't imagine it.
39:34I don't have a brother like that.
39:37It's a real brother.
39:40It's a real brother.
39:49Tsurube and Agawa were surprised.
39:54Masaaki Sakai's Car Life
40:00Masaaki Sakai's Car Life
40:03Masaaki Sakai is 78 years old.
40:07He talks about the present and the future.
40:11You like cars, don't you?
40:13I have a lot of hobbies.
40:15I was wondering when you would talk about that.
40:18I like cars, too.
40:20Do you like cars, too?
40:22You don't know, do you?
40:24I used to drive the same type of car as you.
40:30I still drive it.
40:32This is a Lancia B24.
40:39It's a Lancia called Spider America.
40:42It was made in 1955.
40:44You drive a car like this?
40:46Yes, I drive a car like this.
40:49This car is like a needle to me.
40:53I enjoy the needle.
40:56Of course, work is important.
40:59I like the fact that I can hold the needle for a long time.
41:06Do you go on a trip with this car?
41:09Yes, I do.
41:11For example, I go to Nagoya, Hokkaido, and Kyushu.
41:17There are various rallies.
41:20Until then, I drove a car like this.
41:25When the rally starts, I drive a car like this.
41:31Even if a light bulb breaks?
41:35A light bulb?
41:37That's right.
41:39A light bulb is old.
41:41This?
41:43Yes, a light bulb.
41:45The most important thing is that there are no parts.
41:50You have to take it from somewhere.
41:53What is this?
41:55Wow!
41:57What kind of car is this?
42:00This is a Maserati A60 CS Series 1.
42:05Did you go on a classic car tour in Karuizawa?
42:09Yes, I did.
42:11I thought you were Machiaki.
42:13Did you call me?
42:15I'm sorry.
42:17I'm a celebrity.
42:19I'm Machiaki.
42:21I'm Machiaki.
42:23This was made in 1948.
42:261948?
42:28I like this color.
42:32I'm glad to be praised.
42:34I'm definitely happy.
42:36It's nice to have a car you like at home.
42:41How many more years can I do this?
42:44You can still do it.
42:46I can't take this to the grave.
42:49This?
42:51I've been doing this for a long time.
42:54I've been doing it for a long time.
42:57Suddenly, it started raining.
43:00After a while, this side came out.
43:04I was wondering what was going on.
43:08This side comes out.
43:10Outside?
43:12I made a space.
43:14I opened it.
43:16It's still coming out.
43:19I stopped.
43:22It's cute.
43:28It's like a gun.
43:31It's like a gun.
43:33It's like a gun.
43:35It's like a gun.
43:37You're finally getting on.
43:39I'm getting on.
43:41When you talk about hobbies,
43:43you get excited.
43:45I can't get on.
43:47I can't get on.
43:49That's interesting.
43:53Isn't there such a thing?
43:55This wheel cap.
43:57Yellow and silver.
43:59I put it on.
44:01Mr. Karasawa and I.
44:03Two friends.
44:05When I just bought this,
44:07we all ran to Yasaki.
44:09We all ran to Yasaki.
44:11We stopped.
44:13We said, let's take a picture.
44:15We said, let's take a picture.
44:17We ate eel for lunch.
44:19We came back.
44:21We stopped at the parking lot.
44:23Mr. Karasawa said,
44:25Mr. Sakai, there's no wheel cap.
44:27Mr. Sakai, there's no wheel cap.
44:29It's a lie.
44:31It's very important.
44:33He scares me sometimes.
44:35Stop scaring me.
44:37Was it a lie?
44:39Was it a lie?
44:41It was a lie.
44:43It was really like this.
44:45I took a picture of it.
44:47I took a picture of it.
44:49I took a picture of it.
44:51I took a picture of it.
44:53It was attached to the white box.
44:55It was attached to the white box.
44:57From there to Unagiyama,
44:5940 km.
45:01I searched for 40 km.
45:03I searched for 40 km.
45:05I said I'd go back again.
45:07I said I'd go back again.
45:09Normally, Mr. Karasawa would say,
45:11Excuse me, I'm going to go get a drink.
45:13He wouldn't follow you.
45:14I'd go, BAAAM!
45:15And I'd go home.
45:16The next one, BAAAM! And I'd go home.
45:18The next one, Mr. Sakai,
45:20Instead of looking for it and regretting it,
45:22let's look for it and regret it.
45:24That's a good line.
45:25That's a good line.
45:27Let's go.
45:29Let's go.
45:30Let's go.
45:31Let's go.
45:32Let's go.
45:33Let's go.
45:34Let's go.
45:35Let's go.
45:36Let's go.
45:37Could you stop looking around so much?
45:39I have to find it.
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