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00:00We recognize the reward system of the War on Drugs of the Duterte Administration.

00:05We will now welcome Atty. Salvador Panelo, former Chief Presidential Legal Counsel of former President Rodrigo Duterte.

00:12Good morning, Atty. Panelo.

00:15Good morning, sir.

00:17Yes, Atty. As a former member of the Cabinet, do you know about the so-called reward system mentioned by former Police Colonel Garma?

00:26You know, you need to examine the evidence surrounding Colonel Garma and his statements to me, Atty. David.

00:39If you look at it, first of all, he was detained and he is being detained for something that is not his fault.

00:54Why was he detained? He was just asked if he is close to President Duterte or not.

01:03To my mind, that question is not only invasive, it is improper and subjective.

01:13If you look closely, you won't know. You will ask if he is a human being.

01:19Because you don't know if you feel close to the person, but the person is not close to you.

01:25Because of that, he was detained. To my mind, that's an illegal detention.

01:30Number two, because of that, he is being detained now.

01:34The prospect of a prolonged detention is not a reality.

01:40To my mind, Colonel Garma is very scared and he is under pressure.

01:50So the affidavit that he made, from what I can see, is made under duress.

02:02It means he was forced under pain of a prolonged detention or whatever consideration he has.

02:11So look closely at the affidavit. Number one, he said he was called at 5 a.m. on May 16, or rather May of 2016.

02:27But the question is, Mr. Duterte, Digon at that time, was not even president.

02:36You don't know if he will win or not because it's May. Our election is on May.

02:42So how can somebody who's not even sure of being president or if he was elected, you don't know because it's May,

02:51he's not yet seated. Then he will talk about one thing, that he may not have the capacity or the authority to do it.

03:06Number two, if you look at the affidavit, he said that the Davao model, he didn't know about it. He's not part of it.

03:20She's not part of it. He also said that she was being invited by the one who's going to operate it.

03:30But she declined. So given these circumstances, how in the world can she know anything about the Davao model if she's not part of it and she doesn't know?

03:47Number three, she gave some details. And yet, how can she know those details if number one, she doesn't know, number two, she declined, and number three,

04:05she has sources. She said she was informed. This particular detail was conveyed to her.

04:17It's easy to say but it doesn't mean that she has no personal information. It was conveyed to her.

04:25So how can you say that everything she said is true? I think this woman is pitiful. She was forced, she was promised or whatever.

04:41So she's being forced to make some allegations containing in her affidavit that are not true. But because she's afraid for herself and her family, she agreed.

05:03But then again, the affidavit that she made, I think, was made by a lawyer to give the promise to her, whatever, whichever or both.

05:17But at the same time, it will not stand in the court because it's her say, she has no participation, she has no knowledge. That's what I think.

05:29Attorney, aside from Rojina Garma, the police also mentioned a quota and reward system in Oplan, Tokhang.

05:36Okay. Let's go there. Let's go there. First of all, as I said, she has no knowledge there because she's not a part of it.

05:46Second, she's just a storyteller. But what is the purpose of those funds? Remember Susan, one cannot launch a drug on war without finances.

06:05If there's a need for police operations, you will fund it. That's why there's a fund. The government will fund it.

06:16But to say that President Duterte paid to die, there's no such animal. The President will not do that.

06:30Remember in SONA, the first SONA, he said I'm launching this war on drugs. He told the police to do their job. But if you abuse, there will be hell to pay.

06:45But he said, didn't he say that during the campaign? He said you need to stop that or else I will kill you. That's what he's using, I will kill you.

06:56But when he said that, President Duterte just wanted to say, because he was making a commitment and a policy statement on what he will do as president.

07:12That statement and that commitment became a factor to the person who will vote for him.

07:21You made a commitment to us that if you will vote for me, you have a contract with us that you need to do that. Because of that, he was voted.

07:31That's why he continued his fight against drugs and became successful.

07:39Atty. Panay, I just want to ask, aside from Roina Garma, the quota and reward system in Oplan, Tukhang is also mentioned.

07:45This is Lieutenant Colonel Jovi Espinido in the quadcom of Augusto.

07:49So what can you say now that two high-ranking police officers are speaking about the so-called drug war?

07:56I already told you what I can say about that.

08:01Lieutenant Colonel Jovi, I think the same thing happened to them.

08:10Because in the Congress, people are afraid. If you don't want to answer, you will be jailed. If you don't listen, you will be jailed.

08:21That's why you have to do something about your own safety. You have to do something to keep your life quiet.

08:31Just do what you want to do.

08:34This is what former President Duterte said. He will face the quadcom.

08:39When will he be brought to the hearing? Did you talk to him and did he say anything about this?

08:45We talked to him. He said, first of all, I didn't receive any invitation.

08:51They didn't bring an invitation.

08:54Initially, he said the hearing is useless because you can see that they are not observing the correct way of asking irrelevant and invasive questions.

09:13You will be jailed if you don't want to answer.

09:16Now, he said, even if that's the case, from what I saw, you really invited me. I really want to attend to teach them how to undertake such...

09:31because he was a congressman at the same time, he was a lawyer. That's why he knows how to ask questions.

09:38But the problem is, he said, the problem is I didn't receive any invitation.

09:42Second, if I go there, Susan, he said, this is important, he said, if I go there, I have a condition.

09:51They should be asking educated questions, not irrelevant, not stupid, and not invasive.

10:01Anyway, we will keep you updated. Thank you very much, Atty. Salvador Panelo. Good morning to you.

10:08Thank you, Susan.

10:30Thank you, Atty.

11:00Thank you, Atty.

11:30Thank you, Atty.

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