SE PRIVATIZARÁ LA EMPRESA BELGRANO CARGAS Y LOGÍSTICAS S.A.
Rubén "Pollo" Sobrero: "Si quisieran debilitar a Moyano lo que tienen que hacer es estatizar y poner todos los trenes de carga como lo era antes".
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Rubén "Pollo" Sobrero: "Si quisieran debilitar a Moyano lo que tienen que hacer es estatizar y poner todos los trenes de carga como lo era antes".
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00:00There he is, announcing the privatization of Cargas.
00:03Did you know this was going to happen?
00:05No, we didn't know, but we don't have a union representation in that specific sector.
00:11In any case, let the state's useless intervention come back as soon as possible,
00:18before these people finish finishing off the best position, as they are doing.
00:22Thank you, Rodolfo.
00:24We are grateful.
00:26What is Pablo Arcata announcing? We stay here for a minute.
00:28It is part of the Basic Law. I was just explaining to Dorni what was approved,
00:32and well, they say, we are proceeding, it is the first company that we proceed to privatize.
00:38In this case, it is this railway company, Belgrano Cargas,
00:42that according to what they had announced, they were not going to accept questions,
00:47because clearly it is a bomb, because one also wondered,
00:50all this that my law said in the campaign, of everything that can be done, will be privatized,
00:54and then a lot of that was left out of the Basic Law,
00:57such as the public television company, Radio Nacional,
01:00all that was left out, but the trains had remained inside, well, they are advancing with this step.
01:05The one who is talking now is Diego Chager, who is the new owner of the public companies,
01:09which emerged from the approval of the Basic Law,
01:12and what he says precisely, well, is, we have the delegation of faculties
01:18to advance in this type of privatizations,
01:22and they detected that this is the first, due to certain technical criteria,
01:27which say that it did not make sense to continue keeping it in this orbit.
01:31Let's listen to Chager for a minute, let's see what he says.
01:34Locomotoras, which will allow to incentivize the competition,
01:37which includes its respective drivers,
01:40two concessions of wagons, and two concessions of workshops,
01:44which include the associated employees.
01:47In this way, all routes will be concessioned in the private sector,
01:51allowing, with this model, to triple the volume of cargo transported,
01:55since the number of trains and their frequencies will be increased.
01:59The proposed scheme is of open access infrastructure concession,
02:04that is, the concessionary of it will have the obligation to allow
02:08the passage to all operators who want to transport cargo through those routes.
02:12Well, let's see, I'm going to say hello to Pollo Sobrero,
02:15who is obviously from the sector. Pollo, how are you, how are you?
02:18How are you Facundo? Good morning, how are you?
02:21What a look you have, you just announced the privatization of the Begrano Cargas.
02:24Can you explain to me first what the Begrano Cargas is?
02:27The Begrano Cargas is a concession,
02:31which is shared between the railway union and some private sectors,
02:37which go through 16 provinces, mainly in the center and north of the country.
02:44Well, it is a cargo concession of the four that we have.
02:50It is a company that is very profitable.
02:54Excuse me, is it a company?
02:57Very profitable.
02:59In other words, it doesn't lose money, the Begrano Cargas?
03:02No, it doesn't lose.
03:04No, let's see, the privatizations or concessions,
03:09first, one thing is concession and another thing is privatization.
03:13Concessions do it, you know why?
03:16Because the state is still the owner,
03:19so everything that is the repair of the railways,
03:23what is complicated, which is very, very heavy,
03:27ends up being done by the state.
03:32The concession is something like the silly boy,
03:35and with forgiveness for the example, right?
03:38In other words, one has to pay for everything,
03:42tertiary the railway concession,
03:49they put a third party, who only collects,
03:53while the state guarantees that the system works.
03:58Why does this have to do?
04:00It has to do because last year,
04:02in the cargo, there were 435 landslides in a year.
04:07Obviously, everything had to be done by the state, right?
04:12Of course, and are they going to do something?
04:15How is the sector going to take it?
04:18Let's see, the only section that is against privatizations
04:23is mine, the AEDO section.
04:26The union leaders are trying to do the same,
04:30to be part of the business.
04:33That's why they didn't say anything, that's why they shut up.
04:36And when the railways are privatized in the 90s,
04:40Pedraza is in charge of the cargo,
04:43with a subsidy of 500 million dollars.
04:46We have to see what was the arrangement
04:48that the Railway Union reached,
04:50because you know that Emilio Sanchez
04:52is a very close leader to the milleanism,
04:55who has been talking in secret
04:58with the businessmen for a while.
05:01No, you don't expect anything from the National Railway Union.
05:04Yes, we now have an assembly on Tuesday or Monday
05:09on the subject of Paro del Treinta,
05:12and there we are going to take a position
05:14that is going to be against concessions and privatizations.
05:17We have been raising this issue for a while.
05:20Pollo, for the people, Pablo Vinocur greets you.
05:23For the people who understand,
05:25what lines are we talking about in particular?
05:28Thank you, Pablo.
05:30If you look at the north, Salta, Tucumán, Chaco,
05:34everything that is in the center,
05:36the Noa and Mea,
05:38there are 16 provinces where it passes
05:41and reaches here, Buenos Aires,
05:43everything that is Belgrano, Cargas.
05:46It is a company that is impossible to lose.
05:51It is a company that has to earn like this or like that
05:54because it is the most important railway
05:59that you have and that costs you a lot.
06:02What happens is that Belgrano Cargas,
06:05like all cargo companies,
06:10is managed by a business group
06:12and they use the cargo as their own fleet.
06:16That is why many times small and medium-sized farmers
06:21cannot send their cargo by train
06:24and they end up sending it by truck
06:26because they don't receive those loads.
06:28Javier Díaz, this is not...
06:31Because Belgrano Cargas also goes to Rosario,
06:34the port of Rosario, right?
06:36Yes, obviously.
06:37But there is the NSA.
06:38Of course, that's fine.
06:40But isn't this part of a strategy,
06:42in addition to privatization or licensing or whatever,
06:45to weaken Moyano?
06:51Why?
06:52What?
06:53No, no, no.
06:55I don't see it that way.
06:57You don't see it that way?
06:58If they wanted to weaken Moyano,
07:00what they would have to do is make it a state-owned company
07:03and put all the freighters throughout the country
07:05as it was before.
07:06Of course, but...
07:07We're not talking about that.
07:08Okay, but I say it's a first step, maybe, because...
07:10No, no, no, forget it.
07:12No?
07:13No, no, no.
07:14This is business.
07:15Okay.
07:16This is pure business.
07:17All the privatizations of railways or concessions
07:19are business.
07:21No, it's not a state policy.
07:23Much more, Javier, you know,
07:25this is a government that came to...
07:27that plans to destroy the state, as you say.
07:30So it's not going to use any company
07:32to improve the service.
07:33But I say...
07:34That's how it is.
07:35Let's see, thinking about it as you point out,
07:37if you privatize,
07:39is there a company that will require
07:42or demand from the government,
07:44look, give me a hand,
07:45to be able, obviously, to continue operating
07:47and operating efficiently.
07:48I need them to also favor the railways to transport.
07:51For many years it has been denounced
07:54that, obviously, the trucking sector
07:57has taken over the transport of cargo
08:00in the middle of the trains.
08:03When it's...
08:04That, Javier, I think I spoke to you once.
08:07That's wrong.
08:09The only ones who destroyed the railways
08:13was our own Gremio, Juan Pedraza,
08:15when he made the agreement with Menem.
08:16Yes.
08:17He leaves 100,000 colleagues on the street.
08:19Stop, stop, stop, Menem said.
08:21Stop, stop, stop, Menem said.
08:23Moyano, what he did, was to take advantage of the moment.
08:26The real responsible for the delivery of the railways
08:29is called Pedraza, José Pedraza.
08:32He called him because he was a passenger.