The calls to "Tank for Cam Ward" are getting louder as the guys do their best to quiet the crowd! Tua's health and durability once again come into question. Is Mike McDaniel on the Hot Seat? Should Stephen Ross consider moving on from the "guru?" Is it time to blow the roster up?
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00:00Tony says, we said that it's two a time,
00:02but it's actually tank for cam time.
00:05I don't like this.
00:05I mean, I'm very, I'm very, you know.
00:09Can I, can I ask one more question?
00:12Everybody can ask one more question.
00:18If everything stays the same and you get rid of two
00:21and bring in another quarterback,
00:22does that make things better?
00:25Does he play every game?
00:28Yes, but I can't promise you that.
00:31I'm just, you know, but he's not going to be injury prone.
00:36Yes.
00:37He's not going to come into the league.
00:39See, so, um.
00:44I mean, you can't, I guess you can't promise me health,
00:47but I'm just saying like.
00:48So in effect, we're saying that all these problems
00:54are basically on tour.
00:57They're not indirect in an indirect way.
01:02Well, here's the thing that's, that sucks about it.
01:04Okay.
01:04Everybody who was apprehensive about giving the extension,
01:07there were plenty of people.
01:08I don't want to act like nobody was against giving
01:10the extension.
01:12The biggest concern was head health.
01:14And the thing that you were frustrated with
01:17and that we became frustrated with is that he is sitting
01:21here telling you that for five weeks, he was fine,
01:24but the dolphins couldn't afford to have him out there
01:27and have a Cincinnati situation happen again,
01:29which he's at.
01:30He goes, I feel like this is all drawn back to Cincinnati.
01:32And what's going to happen the next time?
01:36If there is a next time, is he allowed to play
01:39when he feels fine?
01:40Or do we always have to go down for a month?
01:43Like what's, and I just don't know how,
01:45how do you live life like that as a franchise?
01:49Here's how you have to do it.
01:53If you're healthy, you play.
01:56If you're not, you don't.
01:58But they've already.
01:59And people as simple as that.
02:00But they've already.
02:01But they've already bucked against that, Leroy.
02:04They did the look good thing.
02:06And what's this, but they're gonna, but here's the thing.
02:09And I get what you're saying,
02:10cause I'm not disagreeing with you,
02:12but we've already seen what they do
02:15because they had so much criticism
02:17the first time that it happened.
02:19It's always gonna go to look good.
02:22And how do you operate normally like that?
02:24Cause it's always gonna deter,
02:25to us sitting here telling you angrily
02:28at reporters last week, he's fine.
02:30I felt fine.
02:32I've been fine.
02:33I knew he was okay when they allowed him to travel.
02:36Right.
02:37Because if you have a concussion
02:38and you have symptoms of a concussion,
02:40the last thing they want you to do is travel across
02:43in a plane cause of the pressure.
02:45Sure.
02:46So I don't, again, I get the dilemma.
02:57I get it.
02:58I understand it.
03:00But the fact of the matter is,
03:03if you're healthy and you want to play,
03:06you should be able to play
03:08until which case you are not cleared to play.
03:11And everybody needs to have that attitude
03:14because what ends up happening is situations like this.
03:22And now like, look,
03:23I can understand if you say he's clear for play,
03:26we're gonna give him one more week.
03:28Right.
03:29I understand it.
03:29That happened to me.
03:31But to go four weeks when you didn't have to
03:37for whatever reason,
03:39like you're putting yourself in a bad spot
03:43because like you said,
03:45the next time, what, the season?
03:47Right.
03:48You've already like, so-
03:50The precedent is set.
03:51From the beginning, I have said,
03:54let the professionals and the doctors
03:58tell you when Tua is healthy.
04:01Don't you try to make decisions
04:03based on what looks or feels good.
04:08Let's hear from Mike McDaniel.
04:10He was asked about meeting with Steven Ross after the loss.
04:16And this is what he said,
04:17Steven Ross's message was to him.
04:19Here was Mike McDaniel.
04:21Hey, he's like every fan and coach.
04:24My knee jerk is to,
04:27is to, you know, apologize for the result
04:32regardless of, you know,
04:33how the game and my position within it go.
04:40And he's very,
04:43he knows how the people that he's hired
04:46that he really believes in.
04:49And so he's very supportive.
04:52And that was very similar to what last night was.
04:56I think he's also supremely competitive.
05:00So, you know, he doesn't like to lose,
05:03but, you know, he's kind of,
05:06we're definitely aligned in that
05:10it's the process and evaluating that.
05:16You smell that?
05:18Smell it?
05:20Something's burning.
05:23Smells like hot seat.
05:25You think?
05:26You smell that Marcos?
05:27Why so?
05:29Smells like jokey jokes and smack.
05:31Can I, can I,
05:33why wouldn't Mike McDaniel be on the hot seat?
05:35Just smells like it, dude.
05:37No, but why?
05:39Two and five.
05:40Oh, so.
05:43Hasn't won a big game?
05:44Here's what I've heard.
05:47He's been a coach for two and a half years.
05:49Long-winded.
05:50He's been a head coach for two and a half years, relax.
05:53But here's what I would say about that.
05:59Is that
06:01if you can't look at all the circumstances
06:06in which you are two and seven,
06:08and you only put it on the coach,
06:11then you're going to be switching coaches a lot
06:13because there are going to be circumstances
06:18that a coach has no control over.
06:21You understand what I'm saying?
06:23Yeah, I mean, this owner has switched coaches a lot.
06:28All right.
06:31Tell him, Zeus.
06:32Okay, like I'm done giving like,
06:34I'm trying to be like realistic about it,
06:37but clearly I'm dealing with people that don't.
06:40I've seen this cycle.
06:43I'm telling you, it doesn't turn around quickly.
06:48It just doesn't.
06:52Let's just say Stephen Ross
06:53got his feet up on the couch, you know?
06:55Perusing these surfing channels,
06:58and he puts on Rat McAfee.
07:01Rat McAfee has on Bill Belichick.
07:04And he goes, I can get him if I want.
07:07Like, he's just thinking to himself.
07:08You don't think that crosses his mind?
07:13I mean, I don't.
07:15If you change-
07:16I don't want it.
07:17I don't want it.
07:18If you change quarterbacks, do you have to change coach?
07:21I don't know.
07:22I guess that's up to Belichick.
07:23You gotta get the thoughts of him.
07:27But I'm just asking Bill, you know,
07:28like we've seen him go after the big star before,
07:31the big star coach.
07:33He's done this multiple times.
07:34He tried to fly across for Harbaugh.
07:37He got caught tampering for Sean Payton.
07:39He's in this situation now.
07:41Like, you don't think there's a chance
07:43that he's like channel surfing
07:45and he's thinking to himself,
07:46man, haven't gotten to waddle since last October.
07:50And then he's thinking to himself, Belichick.
07:55I don't want Bill Belichick.
07:56I just want to be clear to the fans out there.
07:57I'm just asking, do you think he thinks that?
08:00No.
08:02Like, there has to be, throughout this whole operation,
08:08there has to be a voice of reason.
08:10So that means that somebody has to sit down
08:13and talk to Steven Ross and the coaching.
08:16Why are we here?
08:19And you have to evaluate those answers,
08:23whatever they think those reasons are, okay?
08:27First of all, in the last, you can go back a year.
08:31I've never seen a team with more injuries
08:34with players they paid a lot of money to.
08:36Yep.
08:37So that limits who you can bring in.
08:43Then a guy comes back
08:45who you're not paying a boatload of money,
08:47but he is a pivotal part of the defense
08:50and gets hurt again.
08:53So now you're searching again.
08:56So, like, what,
08:59I try to think of it this way,
09:02and this is how I look at it.
09:03The same question I asked you about too.
09:06With all the injuries that have gone on, on this team,
09:10if I changed the coach, would it have mattered?
09:13This year, I would say no.
09:15I don't think it's as much of a coach.
09:16So, saying I want to fire a coach,
09:20when as of right now,
09:22as of right now, based on who has been playing
09:25the first seven games,
09:27and who's been out, and who's been injured,
09:31saying I'm going to change the coach,
09:34you're not making yourself any better
09:36because you don't know.
09:37Rich people like to do things
09:38that just make them feel better though, just on a whim.
09:41Okay, but I'm trying to stay in reality here,
09:47because owners do things because they got a lot of money
09:50and they think differently.
09:52But fans just think change is better.
09:55And I'm saying, if there's another coach
09:57that you could have had in the first seven games,
10:01like what coach would you have had?
10:03Well, I guess it looks like, but Leroy,
10:05the way we could look at it though is,
10:07this is a team that had questions last year,
10:09but had a good record, okay?
10:12And it ended up falling apart.
10:13Yes, in part because of injuries,
10:14but they didn't really do anything to address that
10:16in the off season.
10:17They just kind of said, run it back, baby.
10:19Agreed.
10:20It's only gotten worse.
10:22The roster has gotten worse.
10:23The injuries have gotten worse.
10:25So at what point do you think Lady Luck's
10:27gonna be on my side and all injuries and health
10:30are gonna be in the right spot?
10:32Or is it just, this is what this roster is.
10:35It's brittle.
10:36It's not built for it.
10:37And it doesn't work.
10:38Cause it hasn't felt like it's worked
10:40since the middle of last year.
10:42Not just this year.
10:43That's when injuries started, yes.
10:45So I don't, so when do you have that assessment?
10:50When do you really take stock of that?
10:52I don't know.
10:53At some point you do, but you also have to,
10:59like, you also have to identify
11:03what part of this would be different with other people
11:07and what part of this wouldn't be when you make changes.
11:12Yeah, I just feel like once we do that,
11:15like the philosophy of the roster building
11:16does have to get a little different, doesn't it?
11:20Um, yeah, but then if you do that,
11:23you know you're gonna take a big hit
11:25and it's gonna be a couple of years
11:26because you're not gonna be able to necessarily
11:30just dump money and bring new money in.
11:34You're gonna have all these hits.
11:36So now you're talking about another
11:38maybe two or three year process.
11:40Right.
11:41And let's keep in mind,
11:42you've had a winning record the last three years.
11:44Yeah, well.
11:45I mean, I'm just, that's reality.
11:48So if I say all the things that you're saying are accurate
11:53and we make the changes and make these changes
11:56and try to turn over the roster,
11:58are you willing to wait another three years?
12:00Well, here's what I don't wanna do.
12:02I'm gonna tell you right now.
12:03I'm not moving the goalposts on this season.
12:06So let's just say the Dolphins do have a turnaround.
12:08Yeah.
12:09Let's say they get it to nine and eight.
12:12Let's say they get it to 10 and seven.
12:13Let's say they just run it off
12:15and they still get blasted in the first round.
12:17I'm not going back retroactive and saying,
12:19oh, you guys fixed your record from the start of the season.
12:22What a great run.
12:23Like you're not the 2016 heat where I'm gonna take a,
12:26oh, you ended up 41 and 41.
12:28No, you're still,
12:29you still had the expectations
12:31of finally winning a playoff game this year.
12:33The record's the record.
12:35So then why, if the record is the record,
12:38why are we making or wanna make all these changes
12:42before the season's over with?
12:44I'm just telling you.
12:44I just said, if the season,
12:46if they run out the season and don't win a playoff game,
12:49you're gonna treat the record like the record.
12:50Well, that works both ways.
12:52It's two and seven.
12:54Why don't you say,
12:55let's just see what the record is at the end of the year.
12:56I'm just saying, even if it's most optimistic,
13:00you still need, like at the point of this,
13:01we do need to know
13:02are the Dolphins ever gonna contend with this core.
13:05Yes.
13:06Because.
13:07Absolutely.
13:08Absolutely.
13:10And we don't know.
13:11And I feel like, you know,
13:12if they walk in and they get stone-cold stunted on Sunday
13:15by the Bills yet again.
13:17Here you go.
13:17Here, I love this.
13:18This is the difference between a fan and reality.
13:21What the hell is Leroy talking about?
13:23Sometimes you gotta just cut bait.
13:25McDaniel cannot coach, period.
13:27It's the same mistakes over and over.
13:30We have to wait anyway,
13:31because this team is not built right.
13:34But if you just cut bait,
13:38you have to realize the financial hit
13:41that you're gonna take,
13:42that could destroy you for the next three or four years,
13:45or two or three years.
13:47That also has to come into effect.
13:49So even though you may be turning the team over,
13:52you may hold on to players
13:53because you don't want to take that hit.
13:55So that has to be considered.
13:58You can't just, see, fans think,
14:01if a player's not playing well and you just gave him money,
14:03just cut him, just trade him.
14:05No, even if you trade a player,
14:07you take a big financial hit.
14:10So now you could have 70,
14:13you could be the Denver Broncos,
14:18and just eat $70 million,
14:21but you've paid three or four guys 30 plus million.
14:25So how much money would you eat?
14:27Half of your salary cap?
14:30You can't just do that.
14:32He did just sell like 10% of the dollars.
14:34It has nothing to do with the team.
14:36It's a salary cap sport.
14:38I don't believe that.
14:40See, like-
14:41Salary caps, Fugazi.
14:42You can, you have the conversation with them.
14:45I'm so bleeping done because I'm speaking reality.
14:49You're speaking nonsense
14:50and these clowns aren't smart enough to realize it.
14:53So the hell with all of you.
14:55Take a break.
14:56No, I'm serious.
14:57I'm done.
14:58I'm not saying another bleeping dolphins thing
15:00because you guys are morons, all of you.