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Video Information: Shabdyog session, 25.04.2018, Advait Bodhsthal, Noida, India

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How to understand sin?
How is a sinner?

Music Credits: Milind Date
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Transcript
00:00Nimisha from Mumbai.
00:11She has quoted verse 33.
00:21A teacher is one who is well-versed in the scriptures, pure, unafflicted by desires,
00:32a perfect knower of the supreme, who continuously abides in the supreme, who is as calm as the
00:41fire that has burnt up its fuel, who is a spontaneous ocean of mercy that needs no cause
00:49for its expression, an intimate friend to all good people who surrender to him.
00:58So she is asking what does it mean to be sinless?
01:03In the Bible it is said that man was born from the original sin that stemmed from Adam
01:11and Eve in the Garden of Eden.
01:20The Lord Jesus Christ had all the above-mentioned qualities and died on the cross to redeem
01:27man of sin, yet the world is mired in sin and suffering like never before.
01:34Please help me understand sin and sinlessness in right context.
01:41The original sin is to assume a form.
01:53You have quoted the Bible, thereto the sin was to taste the forbidden fruit and then
02:16as a punishment to be born in the world, as a punishment to be expelled from the holy
02:31garden of bliss and to be born as human beings in the world.
02:42That sin fundamentally, to feel born, to be born, to be someone inside whom the clock
02:59is ticking, birth relates to time, does it not?
03:09And the moment you are born, you say now I am 6 months old, now 6 years old, now 60
03:14years old, the clock starts ticking from when you were born.
03:20That's the original sin.
03:22To not to heed the advice of God, taste the forbidden fruit and set the clock ticking.
03:44The fruit of knowledge is letting knowledge in.
03:54Once you have eaten the apple, the apple has gotten in.
04:01So to taste the fruit of knowledge means to be identified with knowledge.
04:07Now knowledge is in.
04:11Knowledge is not merely something that you hold.
04:15Now knowledge is in.
04:17Knowledge is now a part of your system, your being.
04:23That's sin.
04:24Your being should have been purely the being of God.
04:32But now your being is your personal being.
04:42Now you are not residing as the innocent one.
04:51The stories say that Adam and Eve would wear no clothes.
05:00But once they had tasted the fruit and God came looking for them, they hid behind a few
05:07shrubs because now they were ashamed of themselves.
05:17Now they are no more innocent.
05:20Now they are ashamed.
05:21Now they know that to not to be wearing clothes is a matter of shame.
05:37Worldly knowledge has been taken in.
05:43God never taught them that nakedness is a matter of shame.
05:54But now they have knowledge from elsewhere.
06:00The apple represents the tempting world.
06:07The apple.
06:08You feel like eating it.
06:11Just as you look at the world and feel like eating it.
06:15World, nice apple.
06:19So many have fallen to the temptations of apple, haven't they?
06:27Once you have fallen to the apple, you are a sinner.
06:33Now you know a lot and now you know that which did not need to be known.
06:43Now you are knowledgeable, but most of your knowledge is just a burden.
06:52And it's not a problem that you have knowledge.
06:55The problem is that you consider yourself as the knowledgeable one.
07:04To depart from God and be born in the world of knowledge.
07:12Now your being is not just God.
07:15Now your being comprises of stuff taken in from the world.
07:23You have lost innocence.
07:26What then is innocence?
07:29To be purely innocent of this and that.
07:35This and that exists but cannot get in.
07:42That's the statement of the innocent mind.
07:46This and that exists but it cannot get in.
07:54Its existence is undeniable.
07:59Remember that the tempting fruit existed in God's garden itself.
08:05So its existence cannot be denied.
08:09The world definitely exists.
08:12The existence of this and that is not a problem.
08:14The problem is when this and that overrides the instructions given by God.
08:22When this and that starts getting the same place, the same respect, the same treatment
08:31as God's being or the being gifted by God.
08:37That is sin.
08:47To corrupt your identity.
08:53And that is why being born has been variously called as the fundamental sin.
09:00Now you are no more God.
09:04No parents ever celebrated the birth of God.
09:10Nobody ever says this is God.
09:14You are called my son or my daughter.
09:22Your identity is spoiled the moment you are born.
09:28The born one cannot have an innocent identity.
09:33This is sin.
09:36Departure from the truth.
09:39Departure from God.
09:41If the word God is too heavy for you, just understand it in basic terms.
09:50To be born means to be called the limited and to take oneself as the limited one.
09:57And you very well know that no limitation pleases you.
10:01That is sin.
10:04To be irrevocably tied to a body, at least irrevocable till the point of physical death.
10:13To be irrevocably tied to a physical body that is really incapable of giving you fulfillment
10:21is sin.
10:24Getting this?
10:29You have mentioned Christ.
10:35Because he does not value limitations, therefore he calls himself the son of God.
10:43And because he does not value limitations, therefore he is prepared to give up the limited
10:49body so that limitations of others can be removed.
10:58Limitation.
11:01This body is anyway limited.
11:06Who can attach too much value to it?
11:08That's what Christ says.
11:11So if this limited body is done away with in the service of the unlimited, it's a good
11:23deal.
11:24I take the deal.
11:27I lose my body, others lose their limitations.
11:33I sacrifice my body.
11:36And looking at this sacrifice, if others can sacrifice their limitations, then I would
11:42joyfully sacrifice this body.
11:47Because what I am sacrificing is little.
11:51And what they are getting is immense.
11:55So it's a good deal.
11:56I take the deal.
12:01You get what the sin is, to be bodied is sin.
12:09And you also get the meaning of the sacrifice of many of the prophets and saints and teachers.
12:26Their entire aim is to rid people of their self-imposed limitations.
12:36After all, it was a decision to taste the fruit.
12:41The limitations are self-imposed.

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