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Video Information: with DU, 20.03.2022, Greater Noida, India

Context:
What are humiliation and insult?
How does suffering help the one?
How to realize one's true strength?

Music Credits: Milind Date
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Learning
Transcript
00:00Namaskar Acharya ji, I hope that I am audible to you. I have talked to you once before too
00:09and I just want to say before I ask my question that you are looking like a Rishi which have
00:14you know teleported over here and you know wearing a cool shirt over here like that was
00:20the first thought which came to my mind when I saw you in this meeting and I want to start
00:26my question which is about meditation only but now here the actual problem starts with
00:31me that whenever I sit to meditate or whenever I am doing the things and I am doing meditation
00:36with it you are coming into my mind and your videos are coming into my mind where you say
00:39that no that's not spirituality that's not sitting and closing your eyes and doing like
00:44this and doing meditation that's not spirituality but somewhere or the other it gives me benefit
00:49somewhere or the other it gives me benefit and but still when I am meditating or even
00:54when I am thinking of meditating your videos come into my mind when I am like before sleeping
01:00you are saying that like this is like this is not something which is right and that disturbs
01:05me so I want to know from you that why is it bad why should I not meditate?
01:12I don't want to spoil the party if it's working for you absolutely fine ultimately it must
01:26work right if it's it's working for you I'm happy for you so so feel relieved right and
01:39I have never denied that these things don't work they do work the problem is actually
01:49not so much in the methods of meditation but our mind that misuses them all methods are
01:59designed to work to an extent they are designed to give you a glimpse of something that's beyond
02:11your usual experience the thing is that glimpse must encourage you and charm you into making
02:27it your constant state instead most people are just too satisfied with getting an occasional
02:44glimpse as a compensation for the very disturbed and dull lives that they lead right so that's
03:03my grudge against these meditation practices otherwise see they were designed for a purpose
03:15the purpose is noble the purpose is noble see I have given this example earlier I'll repeat
03:31you go to a sweetmeat shop the normal Harwaii or sweet shop that you have right and if it's
03:49not very professionally run or if it's a small town thing there is still the culture that they
03:57will give you part of a sweet to taste in fact people take it as a given as a set privilege to
04:12ask for stuff to taste so that vendor has like 20 different units of sweets available there is
04:26gulab jamun there is rasmalai there is this that that you know 20 different names and you go there
04:32and you say chakhao hmm let me taste it sometimes you don't even need to say that you just go there
04:40and he says oh this is just just fresh from the karahi you take it and you take a little bit of
04:46it and you put it in your mouth what's that meant to do that's meant to give you a taste of that
05:01thing right it's obvious what is the taste of that thing meant to do the taste is meant to charm you
05:16into purchasing a large quantity of that thing right tasted it found it nice please give me two
05:28kilograms of this or at least 500 grams of this right that's what the entire exercise is for that
05:35you ultimately buy it but what has our wicked mind done with meditation practices so there is
05:48this practice I taste a little of it there is this practice I taste a little there is this
05:54practice I taste a little and when the shopkeeper asks me so what do I pack for you you say oh I am
06:04already well fed I've already tasted so much that I don't need to buy anything because buying entails
06:11paying and I don't want to pay for anything so you taste everything you fill up your stomach and you
06:19go back next day you again come back right at 7 a.m. that's a meditation time and here begins
06:26your meditation you are going to taste something and then without buying anything you go back you
06:34are just satisfying yourself with glimpses and this is what I just don't like if you really
06:47found it good why didn't you make it your life and then the standard response is because it is
06:53impractical you said you watch the movie and you couldn't stand the movie so you came back and
07:00started meditating my question would be why were you not meditating during the movie that's when
07:10you need meditation and that's why meditation has to be a continuous affair continuous 24 hours 7
07:18days a week that's the reason I'm annoyed by people who engage in 30 minutes of meditation every
07:28day because this is cheating meditation has to be a love affair and you cannot be a lover 30 minutes
07:38a day if you really have fallen in love with silence with truth with peace how can it last
07:46only 30 minutes and if you have really fallen in love why will you continue to require those 30
07:54special minutes those 30 special minutes are meant as an introduction they are there to introduce you
08:04to truth and this introducer this intermediary this middleman cannot last forever I'm getting
08:17it somebody takes you to a girl and he introduces you wonderful you are grateful to him right he's
08:32introducing you and he says meet me and the two of you have started talking you and the girl now
08:44what if this middleman continues to stay put wherever you go with the girl he trails you
08:52he says no you know I am the one who introduces so I'll continue the method is the middleman the
09:06method must introduce and vanish how is it that people continue to feel the need to persist with
09:15the method even 20 years down the line the fellow has been meditating using the same practice since
09:25the last 20 years how is it that your practice has still not become redundant surely your love
09:34has no depth that's a problem meditation via practices is good for beginners and I'm not
09:43against that if you have never known even physical stillness I will definitely advise you to sit still
09:53and close your eyes and be with yourself but I'll not want you to continue doing this even after two
10:02years very soon it must graduate into a deeper love affair a deeper love affair in which you do
10:13not need to carry the practice along are you getting it the truth cannot be achieved through
10:24tricks but the ego wants to trick even the truth meditation practices are kind of tricks are they
10:35not you're tricking yourself truth is not something you can achieve through tricks you fall in love
10:52in the most conscious way possible you don't trick yourself into falling in love that's like getting
11:02drunk so that you can be loving towards a person you have to approach the truth in the highest
11:14state of consciousness possible and that consciousness is pure willingness a method
11:21of meditation is a trick how can you apply tricks in a love affair there are people who say you know
11:31but practices are like medicinal pills do you know how a particular pill operates within your
11:42body you don't know but the pill still acts and then they smile they feel that the point is proven
11:48so we are not talking of physical cures we are talking of the mind falling in love with its own
12:01dissolution that has to be a very conscious choice that you cannot do by chanting a particular mantra
12:09or doing some particular antique there are people who think of even psychedelics as means to meditate
12:20and they succeed I'm not surprised so if if you feel a great need you can have a preferred method
12:38of meditation to begin with and there are a thousand methods right in fact I say that meditation
12:49comes first and method of meditation comes later when you really want to be meditative when you
12:58realize the worth of being meditative then you then you look for the right method of meditation
13:04and that right method of meditation is something that you discover for yourself in a very dynamic
13:11way throughout the day I'm getting it right now you need one particular method because right now
13:22life for you is in a particular way at this moment once this session is done then you will require
13:29another method of meditation right now probably just listening to me is meditation once I am not
13:35there you will require something else and that you will eagerly and easily and quickly discover only
13:43if you are in first of all love with meditation so meditation comes first and when meditation
13:50comes first then on your own you discover the right means of meditation continuously and dynamically
13:57are you getting it otherwise life is so diverse it's a flux how can one method work at all hours
14:11in the day you have to you have to say now at this point this is what I need to do and this is my
14:22meditation what is the basic definition of meditation the egos love for the truth is called
14:37meditation are you getting it the ego needs to be meditative for its own health
14:52and that love has to be we said continuous it is not one of the activities in the day
15:08you cannot say I do this I do that I also meditate meditation has to be the light that
15:18shines on everything that you do throughout the day just as there is the light of the Sun right
15:27irrespective of what you are doing the Sun is there and the light is there similarly meditation
15:31has to be continuous irrespective of what you are doing listening to me you are in meditation
15:38you are driving or in meditation you are playing or imitation eating you are meditating speaking
15:43you are meditating listening you are meditating a point comes when even sleeping you are meditating
15:51but more of that later right now it is enough for you to be in loving meditation in your waking
16:06hours meditation is not an activity in the foreground it is a love affair in the background
16:21it is always there irrespective of what is happening in the foreground and being in the
16:33background it guides what is happening in the foreground because it is out of that love in
16:42the background that you decide what to do in the foreground fundamentally I am in meditation
16:52fundamentally I am in love and it is that love that is deciding what I must do throughout the
16:59day this is a meditative life right a meditative life is a far bigger thing than the activity of
17:12meditation but to begin with if you need to get introduced to meditativeness via an activity so
17:24be it no problems but that should not last long so I want to say that if I am sitting in meditation
17:37or if even if I decide to watch your videos on Upanishads or if I decide to read Vivek Chudamani
17:42and if I'm doing these things these things itself says that I want myself to be dissoluted in truth
17:48I don't want to you know be here like even if I require meditation to do anything it just says
17:53that not this none this even if meditation is you know bringing me to there and if I'm not getting
17:59that sweet right now so what's the harm of doing it you know like you know doing it for even a year
18:04if I'm not getting that taste of sweet so just to take that sweet I can do it till then and as
18:10Osho used to say that even if you get a small bit of peace in your meditation remember it throughout
18:15the day celebrate it like hell like you have got everything celebrate it like that
18:20and you will stay in that space and slowly that will increase and then you will not
18:27need those kind of things and I have also read like when I watched your videos I got to know
18:33about Upanishads I got to know about Kadaveta I read Adi Shankaracharya and I had everything
18:37but the only thing which I was confused about what should I do now okay I know that I know this too
18:42but what should I do Acharyaji have said that don't meditate like it's a false thing
18:47it's just no tantrums and showing off that's what it is like but I used to think you said
18:54so right now if I say like I like if I will meditate one hour using some other other act
18:59like as you said there like there are thousands of you know ways to do it if I meditate one hour
19:05and while sitting my main objective is to taste that thing which you said is the truth is just
19:09to you know get one tiny piece of it and I'm sitting with the intention of me getting dissoluted
19:15and you know and rest of the day I'm remembering it is it right is it right like Mahavira says
19:20be like be in the present and Buddha said like life is now life is not in the future or not
19:26in the past life is now and now is the meditation if I do this is it correct I just want to listen
19:31it from you you're saying you get a glimpse of that thing for half an hour or one hour
19:37and then the rest of the day you want to remember it
19:39no I'm not saying that I'm saying that I will do meditation till the time I get the glimpse
19:48and when I get the glimpse I will stay uh with like I like I like as you said in the background
19:53I will stay in the love with it and then I will choose my words according to it and I will stay
19:57in the love and slowly and slowly that love will expand expand and then I then I will not need any
20:01any method like then I don't come to like this like this room is my actually meditation room
20:06I do a lot of stuff here but this is particularly my meditation room so now I don't need to be here
20:11just for the meditation I'm coming here I can do other stuff but I'm in meditation and as you said
20:16that thing which is truth is always with me that truth and that thing of being that not being this
20:22body not being this mind not being the pavana not being the feeling I'm already in that state I can
20:27be in that state forever in my life like Swami Vivekananda used to say and you uh said that he
20:32had Akhand Samadhi throughout the day what exactly is the question
20:41can I do can I do this or not I can meditate one hour then whatever I get I can you know stay in
20:46love with it and stay in the present like Mahavir and Buddha said and I can keep repeating step by
20:51step so you meditate for one hour and in that one hour you are free of your usual mental nonsense
21:01let's say yeah and I'm doing a neti neti not this not this and constantly being
21:09so that one hour you are relatively free of your usual mental noise
21:15right and that one hour is a special time when you are using a special trick against your mind now
21:24now after when I you know if I as you said that I will get something placed
21:28now you get up right and now you walk out of your room now no not like this like I said I do
21:36certain kind of things then I meditate then I you know do that like for example Vipassana I do what
21:42Buddha says do the Vipassana and then forget don't don't keep dropping in names Buddha
21:47Shankaracharya Swami Vivekananda talk about yourself okay you sit you meditate and you find
21:53find that one hour was a present experience and that one hour is now over now now I wake up I
22:01choose like as you said choose your works according to your goal like if it is truth then the work
22:06should not be false the work should also be related to it and in that one hour in that one
22:11hour there was proximity to the truth right in that one hour in that one hour there was proximity
22:18closeness to the truth kind of like if like if I'm doing that thing again and again that
22:27don't don't go this way and that way answer my question straight
22:31in that one hour there was closeness to the truth right yes that one hour is now over
22:39yeah now and now I will stay in I will try to stay in that state I will try to stay in that
22:44then why how is that how is that our hour over now just the time period is over my state is not over
22:51if I am like if I got that thing if your state is if your state wait wait if your state is not over
22:59even after the hour is over why did you need that hour in the first place
23:06if you can maintain wait wait if you can maintain that state even after that hour what was
23:14the need of that hour because I'm practicing to do that I'm not able to maintain it to the 100%
23:21exactly so this means that the closeness to truth does not remain after that hour
23:28it remains to a certain extent but due to my my weaknesses it gets lost because I had to
23:34shout on someone I had to you know like if someone is yelling at me I had to react back
23:39I had to react back and at that time I'm not in the love as I said at that time that background
23:44goes somewhere that goes somewhere and after that happens then I realized oh Acharyaji said to be in love
23:50that's exactly what the entire world uses so-called meditation tricks for
23:59but by the practice I can be perfect no love cannot be practiced
24:06love is a decision it is not a practice you do not practice love whosoever is teaching you
24:14to practice meditation has never known a moment of meditativeness in his life
24:23one single moment that person has not known if he is talking in terms of practicing meditation
24:31there's not something you can practice there's something you just give yourself to I have given
24:39myself up there is a great difference you know you can practice flying you can practice flying
24:48but when you just jump off a cliff that's giving yourself up you don't practice that
24:56flying is something you can practice in practice there is the need for security
25:01right I'm practicing flying I need to be secure as I fly but what when you are jumping off the
25:09cliff do you practice that no that's love meditation is love you don't practice it
25:16if you're practicing meditation you are defending your ego
25:25so what should I do then like that's like this is the state where I was before coming to here
25:31like meditate meditate so hard meditate so hard that you forget all about meditation
25:39meditate so hard that a point comes when when you just don't feel like sitting to meditate
25:47when meditation techniques feel like an insult
25:54you are talking of something so immense how can you approach it via something so small
26:02it's a humiliation meditation tricks are a product of the mind
26:09something very small you must come to see that you cannot use this small thing to approach the
26:17immeasurable you then forget to meditate that's when you are truly meditative
26:26what happened to your meditation time I forgot I forgot the day you forget is the day you are
26:36meditative
26:51you forgot to turn on I was so in love with you that's why
26:57so about that like as you said like I will forget to meditate but for that
27:02do I have to meditate right for that too obviously obviously obviously but there is a difference
27:09between using a crutch to come to a point where your legs have gained enough strength to run
27:21versus a situation in which you make the crutch a substitute for your legs
27:30don't you see the huge difference
27:35meditation techniques must be used only till the point where they are needed
27:46the meditator must seek to be free of them sooner than later
27:51two months six months one year must be sufficient if you continue to need meditation methods and techniques even after one year
28:05then you are simply deceiving yourself you actually have no love
28:11and how should I measure it like you said two months three months six months or one year
28:14then how should I measure it okay now's the time when I have to measure it you don't need to measure
28:19it you need to forget it forgetfulness is measurement how much I now I don't care about it
28:31don't care to meditate that's when you are in love with the truth
28:39now it's bit more here so just like just I want to you know round it up in small sentence
28:46correct me if I'm wrong over here I will meditate for an hour a day okay and that's and I will
28:53meditate as if I'm practicing being in that state for whole like rest of my life and I'm you know
28:59like not I'm not practicing love I'm practicing to like okay I'm confused again but I like I will
29:06meditate and I will treat it as a support not as a substitute for my legs I will do that and then
29:12the whole day I will stay in like I will try to stay in that stage and till then I forget to
29:21meditate till then I forget that I still have to come in that stage you don't have to conspire to
29:28forget that forgetfulness must be something on its own we are not talking about ordinary
29:39forgetfulness we are talking about such deep immersion in love that makes any technique
29:51very redundant we are not talking of something worldly taking priority over meditation
30:02and hence you forgetting to meditate we such a situation is not what we are referring to
30:09you

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