What are the main reasons for decline in popularity of PML-N?
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00:00So let's just let the court decide.
00:03This case is worth 190 million rupees.
00:05Of course, this is a case where the court should look at
00:08who took advantage of this case
00:10and decide the punishment accordingly.
00:12But in this Toshir Khan case,
00:15big shots go in.
00:17More people go in.
00:19No, no, no.
00:20Some people go in.
00:21Some people go in,
00:22for whom the law has banned them.
00:24No, no, no.
00:25No one left pineapple and pineapples here.
00:27But let's leave it.
00:28Who was Rehaste Medina?
00:29Besides the point,
00:30let's talk about the law.
00:31No, let's talk about the law.
00:32These are basic positions.
00:33We took it on the law.
00:34Then give respect to the vote.
00:35No, we took it on the law.
00:36I agree with one thing.
00:37What Imran Khan claimed,
00:39it should have been based on that.
00:40Yes, of course.
00:41If he had said earlier
00:42that the gift should not be taken from Toshir Khan,
00:44then he was wrong.
00:46You know.
00:47This is 100% true.
00:48This is an iPhone.
00:49Do you know how much he charged for this?
00:517,000 rupees.
00:53Give me two.
00:547,000 rupees.
00:56And the dinner sets you gave,
00:59for 35,000 rupees.
01:01When you give a gift to someone,
01:03you don't get 35,000 rupees worth of dinner set on camera.
01:05Sir, let me tell you.
01:06I read the list of Toshir Khan.
01:08Some of the gifts you took,
01:10had fake watches.
01:12Fake watches.
01:14Maybe someone gave it to him.
01:16Here you are saying 35,000 rupees.
01:17Who gives fake watches to someone?
01:19No, no, no.
01:20It's okay.
01:21I am saying that
01:22whoever is accused,
01:23I have a very clear view.
01:24You should conduct an independent,
01:26transparent investigation.
01:27You should file a case in the law.
01:29And whoever gets caught,
01:31be it Imran Khan,
01:32Nawaz Sharif,
01:33Bilal,
01:34don't spare anyone.
01:35Okay.
01:36And the case should be such that
01:37you and I can see that
01:38this is the case.
01:39This is the document.
01:40It shouldn't be that
01:41today is Diwali,
01:42tomorrow is Diwali.
01:43But this is right.
01:44Is there any introspection
01:45in your party that
01:46we need to see
01:47how the party has reached here.
01:49I mean,
01:50how did we become so unpopular?
01:51How did we become so unpopular?
01:52Listen to this.
01:53We didn't win seats.
01:54A party that
01:55didn't want a clear majority,
01:56but wanted a two-thirds majority.
01:59And the situation was such
02:01that their opposition
02:02was in complete chaos.
02:04How did you get out of there?
02:06Do you ever do an introspection?
02:08Listen to this.
02:09First of all,
02:10at that time,
02:12the actions we had to take
02:14to save us from default
02:16were in the form of inflation.
02:19We have paid back
02:20the political burden of that.
02:22And after that,
02:23people used to think
02:24that the way the parties got together…
02:27By the way,
02:28wasn't Mr. Mian's decision
02:29to go to the elections
02:30right?
02:31No, look…
02:32Mr. Shahbaz said
02:33that you have to govern.
02:34No, no,
02:35this is completely wrong.
02:36Mr. Shahbaz,
02:37his opinion,
02:38he doesn't hypocrize.
02:41He clearly puts
02:42the party in front.
02:43The party agrees many times.
02:45I give examples of that.
02:46They don't agree many times.
02:48For example, Musharraf…
02:49I agree with you.
02:50For example,
02:51Musharraf had to put
02:52the party on ECL.
02:53Everywhere…
02:54For example,
02:55he came on TV
02:56and said,
02:57my view is pro-establishment.
02:58I agree with my party.
02:59Look,
03:00he didn't have a problem.
03:01The two big leaders
03:02of the establishment
03:03at that time
03:04were doing hypocrisy.
03:05It is absolutely possible.
03:06It is not possible.
03:07It will happen.
03:08I will tell you.
03:09The work started
03:10with a lack of confidence.
03:11Okay?
03:12When a person
03:13in the establishment
03:14who felt that
03:15at that time
03:16he was not
03:17a minister
03:18who was
03:19in a public league
03:20and
03:21if
03:22he had
03:23not
03:24talked
03:25then
03:26he could
03:27have been
03:28an acting
03:29prime minister.
03:30The prime
03:31minister
03:32was
03:33created
03:34by
03:35the
03:36president
03:37of
03:38the
03:39establishment.
03:40That
03:41was his
03:42future.
03:43For example,
03:44the
03:45prime
03:46minister
03:47was
03:48I am telling you myself that at that time, many people were disobeying us.
03:52At that time, elections did not suit us.
03:55And we did the right thing by not going to the elections at that time.
03:58If we had gone to the elections at that time...
04:00But the situation was such that Imran Khan lost the first phase of the state elections from Garh to KP.
04:07He lost from Garh to Peshawar Valley.
04:09From Mardan to Quahat.
04:11He sweeped everything and came to KP.
04:15He did not win any state elections.
04:17Except for the one in Sialkot.
04:19That was also won by Imran Khan.
04:22You must know.
04:23The party was very strong.
04:25Everyone said that Imran should have gone to the elections at that time.
04:28And the way your party people, like the PTI people, left you and came to you for the ticket.
04:33Why did they come?
04:34They knew that there would be an election of the Noon League.
04:36So how can you say that someone could have defeated you?
04:39No, no.
04:40Look, this was absolutely possible at that time.
04:42I will give you an example.
04:44I am sitting in front of you in one example.
04:46My history was going on.
04:48Saqib Nisar used to keep me standing here.
04:50My campaign was going on behind me.
04:52Or my decision was secured.
04:53The ticker was run.
04:54Mr. Abbasi.
04:56At 11.30 pm.
04:57Okay?
04:58He was running for 18 elections.
04:59Not 18.
05:00I was running for 22.
05:01I am giving you an example of that.
05:03We have replays like that.
05:05Okay?
05:06No, look.
05:07At that time, you think that Mr. Shahbaz...
05:09You had the cards in your hand.
05:11No, no.
05:12Mr. Shahbaz wanted...
05:13No.
05:15When there was a big appointment in Pakistan.
05:19It happened smoothly again.
05:22Otherwise, these things might not have changed.
05:24Okay.
05:25So you are saying that...
05:26I mean, Imran Khan says...
05:27Before that appointment, you had a doubt that the people who were sitting there...
05:31I mean, Imran Khan says that I have broken two assemblies because he told me.
05:36Mr. Faiz must have said that.
05:37No, no.
05:38He directly...
05:39Mr. Bajwa must have said that.
05:40He takes names.
05:41He says that...
05:42I don't think so.
05:43I don't think so.
05:44I think Mr. Bajwa's view was a little different.
05:46This is not to say.
05:47I think so.
05:48Because I don't know much about him.
05:49This is my request.
05:50As much as I have talked to him.
05:51Look.
05:52Post his retirement.
05:53At this time, this value of stability has come.
05:57The second of the economy.
05:58There is a very big reason for this.
06:00There is consistency in the thinking of the establishment.
06:03There is clarity.
06:04And Pakistan's...
06:05And Imran Khan is going to be in jail.
06:07Let's be honest.
06:08Look, Imran Khan...
06:09If you keep him in jail, you will see the value of stability in politics.
06:14Because he is inside.
06:15No, you...
06:16If you take him out...
06:17No, you...
06:18You will be in trouble.
06:19No, no.
06:20Look.
06:21If you...
06:22Let's talk after the break.
06:23Yes.
06:24I am leaving the question on what you are saying.
06:26Stability.
06:27And I am saying that stability is because a status is being kept for you.
06:30When Mr. Mian went to London, everything was open.
06:33Mr. Mian also used to give statements.
06:35Mrs. Maryam also started speaking.
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