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00:00Oh, look at this face.
00:02My big, strong, bull of a boy.
00:05I always knew that we wanted to do a back story of Oz
00:09to better understand who he is as a man now.
00:12♪♪
00:16I thought Oz should have two brothers who passed away
00:19and that all of the love that his mother, Frances,
00:22had for all three then went into one child.
00:25Part of this drive for who he is stems to a trauma
00:29that he's always explained came from the loss of his brothers.
00:32But then you come to understand that this was a story
00:35of his own creation and really his desire
00:37to have his mother all for himself.
00:39He loves his brothers, but he loves his mom way more.
00:44I think he probably all his life feels a little bit broken.
00:47And so he's constantly, constantly looking
00:49for his mother's approval and her love.
00:51I think he's seen very up close and personal
00:54how his mother has toiled to provide for him
00:56and his brothers and wants to give her a better life.
00:59Rain's coming. We got to get inside.
01:01And so the boys go down into the tunnels
01:04to play flashlight tag.
01:06Ozzie, you're it first.
01:08Hey, I can hear you down there.
01:11In his mind, they go down the ladder
01:13into a deeper part of the tunnel
01:15because they know it's hard for him to get down there.
01:17That's not true, but that's what he thinks
01:19because he personalizes things.
01:21Hey, Oz, you okay?
01:23Who are you guys?
01:24I'm sorry, Oz.
01:25And this is reflective of what we see
01:27from Oz in 101 with Alberto.
01:29Alberto demeans him, and Oz impulsively shoots him.
01:33What we reveal in 7 is there's a similar situation.
01:38Hey!
01:39Have fun getting out!
01:41As the water begins to rise
01:42and he knows the rain's coming down
01:44and he has every opportunity to stop it,
01:46he lets that impulsive act become permanent.
01:50Please let us out, please!
01:52We're trapped down here!
01:53It's not that he actively kills his brothers.
01:57It's that he actively does nothing to stop it.
02:00Where are your brothers?
02:01They went to the movies.
02:02Why didn't you go?
02:04I wanted to be with you.
02:05When he's finally wrapped up
02:07and they're, you know, sitting on the couch
02:09watching a movie together with no brothers
02:11taking the affection that he loves and wants and needs,
02:15the life that he's always dreamt of is finally his, you know?
02:18In Top Hat, when Fred Astaire is play-acting,
02:21shooting with the machine gun and killing all his co-dancers,
02:24Oz raises an eyebrow like, ooh, I like this.
02:26And I just thought that was a very nice juxtaposition
02:29of what was going on.
02:30Help!
02:31And we really wanted to drive home
02:33that he was clearly making this decision.
02:36It is really sad and pretty twisted, if you ask me.
02:40But I think that's the moment he starts rising into the villain
02:45that he is in present day.
02:46But I think that he does feel a bit of guilt.
02:49And he's like, this is my purpose.
02:51I need to take care of my mom for what
02:54I've done to make it up.
02:55And so key to who he is is this deep emotional pact
02:58with his mother.
03:00And that, more than anything, is the thing that compels him
03:02to move through the world with the single-mindedness
03:05that he moves through the world with.
03:06You deserve the best thing.
03:10I might not get it for you.
03:14Frances Cobb.
03:16That's your name, right?
03:18The scene between Sophia and Frances when they first meet
03:20kind of felt like a boxing match.
03:22A thing that I hadn't really expected
03:24was how delighted part of Frances is by this ferocious
03:29animal that is Sophia.
03:31But she's also not going to give her one inch.
03:34The two of them evolving to sitting across from each other,
03:38which causes Frances to have one of her episodes worked out
03:41really nicely and felt super organic.
03:43I wanted to do something different with Frances.
03:46So I started to think about dementia
03:48in general, or Alzheimer's.
03:50And then I did more research and learned
03:52about Lewy body dementia, which is a very particular kind.
03:55It is misdiagnosed as Parkinson's often
03:57because people have tremors.
03:59It's a strange disease because you can be totally with it
04:02one minute, and then the next, just forgetful.
04:06And you also have hallucinations.
04:08You should be scouring the streets, for Christ's sake.
04:11That's your job, ain't it?
04:13I think Sophia is really interesting in that.
04:15She toggles between sympathy, curiosity, sadism.
04:21You're kind of on your heels with, like,
04:23what is she up to?
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04:26Yeah, you get the fuck away from me.
04:28When she goes in to talk to Gia,
04:31one of the interesting things is that as a set,
04:34we rebuilt Arkham to be that space.
04:37♪ ♪
04:38So, subconsciously, you might have felt
04:41like you were in the same space,
04:42and it was definitely supposed to mimic Arkham.
04:44There's a lot that this show explores
04:46with, like, family cycles.
04:48Sophia turns Gia into Sophia.
04:51Did you kill them?
04:53My mom and my dad?
04:55She's lying to Gia.
04:57And then there's the moment where she realizes
04:59Gia has been cutting herself,
05:01and that everything that she's doing,
05:03she was done to as well,
05:05and that she has to give Gia the truth.
05:08Everyone in our family deserved it.
05:11In Sophia's mind and heart,
05:13she's doing the right thing.
05:14She really believes,
05:15I'm giving you a better life
05:17than this family ever could have,
05:19and you can start fresh.
05:20From her conversations with Gia
05:22and her conversations with Francis,
05:24she starts to realize that she has been playing
05:27the same game her father has wanted from her.
05:30He put me in an institution,
05:34and the second I got out,
05:36I walked right into another one.
05:41Getting rid of this and shedding her skin
05:43of all of these people and all of this trauma
05:45is actually the healthier thing for her.
05:48I want to be free.
05:50And I want us to feel pain.
05:52Real pain.
05:55Ooh!
05:57The rug gets pulled out from under him.
05:58Filthy piece of shit!
06:00We wanted it to feel real rough, super violent.
06:04Sal is backlit and just looks so fucking vicious
06:08with that light coming through his blonde hair.
06:10Listen up, everybody.
06:12Oswald Cobb is no longer in charge.
06:16The tunnels, it's his past and his present coming together.
06:19This is the place where his brothers died,
06:21and yet he has no problem setting up shop there.
06:24It's somehow the safety of that past
06:27and everything he's experienced
06:29is where he chooses his hideout to be.
06:32This place is filthy.
06:33It's Oz's turf.
06:34He knows he can survive,
06:35and he knows he can resist.
06:37So he's nodding to the various of his people
06:41The violence is quick and decisive.
06:44All he wants is Oz's head on a plate.
06:47No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
06:52Oh, fuck!
06:53Sal's death was very unexpected,
06:55and Oz's reaction was unexpected.
06:57You were supposed to destroy me, Sal!
07:00You know, show me what a big man you are,
07:01what a fucking big man you are!
07:03You know, it's like young Oz, that same energy.
07:07Then he gets so upset that he shoots the dead people
07:10and the dead body.
07:11He definitely was truly disappointed
07:15that he wasn't making him take his last breath.
07:17It's kind of the perfect end, I have to say.
07:20Sal is all emotion and all heart,
07:24and eventually his heart bursts from rage and loss.
07:29Oz's discovery and the misdirect of him
07:33thinking that that's his mother under the coat
07:36in the back of the car that moment,
07:38and Oz's face before he pulls that over,
07:40what he thinks he's gonna see,
07:42that was one of the more difficult sequences to do.
07:44♪
07:47There's something about Colin when he's in a scene
07:49that is so fantastic, you don't want to say cut,
07:51because it's just so believable.
07:53He gets his hands scratched on the rocks,
07:56he lets his knees get scratched up on the rubble,
07:59and then he crawls up into the light.
08:03He probably relishes because it makes him act better.
08:07That's the kind of actor he is, that's why he's a movie star.
08:10♪