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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
00:02Assalamu Alaikum.
00:03I welcome you to this special edition.
00:04The struggle for the elections of the world's most powerful man is on.
00:09This struggle in America takes place every four years.
00:12And this is the 60th time this struggle is taking place.
00:15America is currently going through the process of polling to elect its 60th president.
00:19Because the entire process of elections in America is both different and complicated.
00:24Because of this complicated process, there are 8.25 crore voters who have cast their votes before the first vote.
00:40Because there are three different types of voting.
00:43There is dark voting, early voting, and then there is a process of voting that is still going on.
00:50This is a unique election in the history of America.
00:55America's former president versus America's new president.
01:00Donald Trump versus Kamala Harris.
01:05Republican and Democrat are the two leading parties in America.
01:10The battle is between these two parties.
01:13Donald Trump is the Republican Party.
01:16Kamala Harris is the Democrat Party.
01:19Unlike many countries in the world, where there is a presidential system,
01:25in many countries, people are elected directly by popular vote.
01:30For example, Mr. A and Mr. B are fighting for the election.
01:34Both are candidates for the presidency.
01:36The one who gets the most votes becomes the president.
01:39The situation in America is a little different.
01:41According to the population of the states, they have been given seats.
01:48To oversimplify, they are called electoral votes or electors.
01:54For example, this is an area of the state of America.
01:57You can see different blocks here.
01:59They represent different states of America.
02:02Each state has its own population.
02:05For example, state number 1 has 10 votes.
02:09State number 2 has 56 votes.
02:12State number 3 has only 3 votes.
02:15Each state has a population of 50 votes.
02:20For example, there is a state with 20 votes.
02:23The one who gets 11 votes becomes the president.
02:28The total number is 51%.
02:32If we can show the total number and the number of candidates,
02:37it will be easier for the viewers.
02:39On this basis, the one who gets the most electoral votes becomes the next president of America.
02:45Now let's see how Kamala Harris and Donald Trump improve.
02:49Not to forget that four times in the history of America,
02:53not one, not two, not three, but four times,
02:56the person who got the most votes could not become the president of America.
03:01The recent example is Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton.
03:04Hillary Clinton got more than 3 million popular votes.
03:07But the electoral votes were more than Donald Trump's.
03:10And he won.
03:11In this, some states are very clear that the Republicans win.
03:17Some states are clear that the Democrats win.
03:20In this case, the role of those states becomes important.
03:23Sometimes it goes here and sometimes it goes there.
03:25They are called swing states.
03:28And among them, seven swing states are very important.
03:31So the total electoral votes are 538.
03:34And the one who got 270 votes will win this election in America.
03:40So we will talk about this in different ways.
03:42And we will also try to find out if it has any impact on Pakistan or not.
03:48And as a whole, what are the effects of global peace?
03:53We will talk about all these things.
03:55We will also talk to our panelists from the perspective of Pakistan.
03:58And we will also talk internationally.
04:00Mr. Mohammad Malik is with us in Islamabad Studios.
04:04Mr. Khawar Ghumman is with us from Islamabad Studios.
04:07So that we can see it from the lens of Pakistan.
04:10Then there is our correspondent in America.
04:12From where you keep watching him and covering news from America.
04:17We will talk to him as well.
04:19And we will keep taking more guests.
04:22A while ago, Donald Trump casted his vote.
04:26And he criticized the US secret services.
04:30And he used the word duffer.
04:33That if I say at least one word for them, I will use this word.
04:38And then he also said that there are so many people in my rallies.
04:43Still, security is not provided in that way.
04:46There are fewer people in the rallies of my opponents.
04:49The word secret service is not used for secret institutions in our context.
04:56Secret service and secret agencies are used in two different ways.
05:01But the rift between Donald Trump and the secret agencies there.
05:07Or Donald Trump's opinion against the secret agencies there.
05:11That is also not a secret.
05:13In fact, Donald Trump has been talking about it.
05:17We will talk about it in different aspects.
05:19In a simple and easy way.
05:21Mr. Mohammad Malik and Mr. Khabar Ghumman are present.
05:24And Mr. Jazeb is also with us.
05:25Please tell me so that we can talk to him.
05:27Jazeb is also with us.
05:28Let's start with America.
05:30Jazeb, Assalamu Alaikum.
05:35Jazeb, can you hear me? Assalamu Alaikum.
05:39Can you hear me?
05:40Now I can hear you.
05:42Jazeb, please tell us roughly.
05:45In Pakistan, it is almost 10.40 pm.
05:51How long will it take for a picture to become clear?
05:56Who is going to be the president of the United States?
05:59In the past, there was an idea at the next moment.
06:04Who is winning?
06:06But now, after 2020, things have changed.
06:10Therefore, it is being said that it may take more time to make the picture clear.
06:18I am outside a polling station in Washington DC.
06:24I spoke to the election commission officer a while ago.
06:30I asked him how long it will take to make the final announcement.
06:38He told me that Donald Trump wants the election results as soon as possible.
06:43He told me that I should announce the results as soon as the polling time is over.
06:49When he lost the last presidential election,
06:53he made this issue the basis of the election.
06:57He said that the votes were counted and the election was held.
07:02The mail-in ballots were counted.
07:05The votes were counted and the election was held.
07:10He said that he has won the election.
07:16He said that he has won the election.
07:19He said that he has won the election.
07:22He said that he is preparing his supporters to vote for him.
07:29He said that if he loses the election, we can see the January 6 incident again.
07:34There is a lot of security in Washington DC.
07:37There is a lot of police force and agents here.
07:42The White House and Sponk's building has been completely shut down.
07:47It is also important to note that the presidential election is not taking place.
07:51The 435 seats of the House of Representatives are also being discussed.
07:56The 34 Senate seats are also being discussed.
07:59There is a lot of election fraud.
08:02Mr. Jadhav, since we started,
08:05what is the possibility that the results will be clear?
08:13The results will start coming.
08:16The results will start coming.
08:19Every state has its own time.
08:22In Washington DC, the polling time will end at 8pm.
08:25But in many states, the polling time is from 7pm to 9pm.
08:29No one can say when the results will come.
08:34But the media and other institutions will keep giving their results.
08:40Please stay with us.
08:43Mr. Malik, people draw some interesting parallels.
08:49In Pakistan, there is a political party called PTI.
08:54There was a wave of popular politics.
08:57Popular leaders came and made their own narrative.
09:00The public bought that narrative.
09:03At times, it seemed logical.
09:06I will talk to you about that too.
09:09When Trump cast his vote, he talked to the media.
09:15He criticized the media a lot.
09:18He criticized Oprah a lot.
09:21He also talked about secret services.
09:24I want to talk about that.
09:45I had fewer people than him.
09:47I am disappointed.
09:49Oprah has become a major divider in our country.
09:52She should be ashamed of herself.
09:55She should be ashamed of Fox.
09:58Everyone thinks Fox is pro-Trump.
10:01They are not pro-Trump at all.
10:04They put Oprah on all morning long.
10:07She should be ashamed of herself.
10:10She knows me.
10:13Now she makes statements like that.
10:16She is a divider.
10:18Barack Hussein Obama is a divider too.
10:21He criticized the media.
10:24He talked about secret services.
10:27He said that he can use the word duffer for them.
10:31He talked about secret services.
10:34Mr. Malik, to start with,
10:37the establishment of America...
10:40Trump tweeted about the establishment.
10:43This is a different discussion.
10:46When the word establishment is used in America,
10:49is it used in the same context as in India?
10:58Mr. Malik, tell me.
11:01Do you think that in America,
11:04in the establishment,
11:07Donald Trump is not a fit candidate
11:10to become the president of a country like America?
11:14He has some standard things.
11:17For example, when he talks about establishment,
11:20he talks about Washington.
11:23He always says that he is an outsider in Washington.
11:26When he talks about others,
11:29he uses the word deep state.
11:33Two days ago, he tweeted about his social media.
11:36He said that the deep state
11:39is trying to defeat him.
11:42When you look at Mr. Trump,
11:45when he cast his vote today,
11:48when he was talking to the media,
11:51he said that the primary issue is borders.
11:56Yes, people say inflation,
11:58but the biggest issue is borders.
12:00How can we let 13,000 murderers roam on our streets?
12:06He is running a campaign of fear.
12:09Hitler created a concept of other.
12:12He painted Jews as others,
12:15and later said that others must be vanquished.
12:18Trump is doing it on immigrants.
12:21You will see that in the states,
12:24the New York Times wrote a very good article,
12:27in which he used the words of Trump.
12:30For example, he said that one state is worse than Afghanistan.
12:33He talked about criminals in one state.
12:36If you look at all these things,
12:39the states that he used bad words,
12:42those are the ones where the immigrant population is very high.
12:45The population of foreigners and migrants is very high.
12:48He has a theme of fear.
12:51That is why the Rustic Belt,
12:54which you call the Red States,
12:57is white, urban,
13:00and their popularity is among non-college graduates.
13:03They are still counting on the atmosphere of fear.
13:06This is very important.
13:09There is a trend in the world,
13:12of populist leaders and authoritarian leaders.
13:15This time is very dangerous for the entire democracy.
13:18Inward-looking people are coming everywhere.
13:21Macron saved his life.
13:24Otherwise, if there was no alliance there,
13:27they would have taken him away.
13:30This happened in France too.
13:33This is a very scary trend of populism.
13:36Because populism is very easy.
13:39You just have to talk and make a narrative.
13:42Hatred sells easily.
13:45Even today, they have a theme on this.
13:48I don't think we can draw a parallel,
13:51to be honest,
13:54between Trump and Pakistan's politics.
13:57You can talk about personalities.
14:00Trump is a very vigorous and aggressive man.
14:03Imran Khan is also very vigorous.
14:06But there is one thing that I see.
14:09I was looking at the data of the swing states.
14:12We will talk about that later.
14:15But as far as his personality is concerned...
14:18If we stop here for a moment.
14:21You can talk about this separately.
14:24My next question will be related to this.
14:27I would like to ask Mr. Khawar.
14:30We saw that there was a debate in Pakistan.
14:33Although the top leadership of PTI denied it.
14:36We show that they denied it.
14:39But there was an impression.
14:42PTI told us off the record.
14:45That there is a possibility.
14:48If Donald Trump comes,
14:51there will be a change in the mindset.
14:54There will be a change in Donald Trump's personality.
14:57Things will be easier for Mr. Khan.
15:00How close do you see this opinion?
15:03Before that, let me show you.
15:06Two or three senior leaders of PTI made it very clear.
15:09What difference does it make to them?
15:12Let me show you that too.
15:15He is the president of the United States.
15:18I don't know if it makes a difference.
15:21But I don't think so.
15:24I don't think it will happen.
15:27Donald Trump is our father.
15:30We are his colony.
15:33Donald Trump is the president of the United States.
15:36We should respect him.
15:39We should stand up for our rights.
15:42PTI has only hope from God.
15:45PTI will not go to America, Russia or Pakistan.
15:48However, there was a debate in PTI's camp.
15:51There was a debate in PTI's camp.
15:54There was a debate in PTI's camp.
15:57There was a debate in PTI's camp.
16:00There was a debate in PTI's camp.
16:03Khosla Khan saab said a few words on air.
16:06Khosla saab said a few words on air.
16:09He will come back in November.
16:12He will come back in November.
16:15You are saying this very confidently, Khosla saab.
16:18You are saying this very confidently, Khosla saab.
16:21He said this in November.
16:24He gave a leave to us at the behest of Donald Trump.
16:27He did this at the behest of the United States.
16:30So, you will see how the pendulum, they say swing vote and swing states,
16:37swing states have done, how their swing hits a U-turn, this establishment and this government,
16:43you will see that they will follow Imran and Imran Khan will be out.
16:48So, you are saying that after Donald Trump comes and he is getting elected,
16:52after his coming, Khan will also be released?
16:55See, 100%...
16:57So, Mr. Khawar, in your opinion, is this statement of Mr. Khosla close to reality
17:02or are there thousands of such wishes that are fulfilled on every wish?
17:08Okay, Mr. Badami, thank you very much.
17:09See, if history is a guide, then if we talk about a couple of incidents,
17:15then absolutely, Mr. Khosla's wish or wish, I think it is true.
17:22You will remember that when General Musharraf imposed martial law,
17:26after that Mr. Nawaz Sharif, as you know, was under arrest.
17:30And all the deals that took place and Clinton had said that
17:34I want Mr. Nawaz Sharif out of Pakistan before I leave the office.
17:40You will remember this famous sentence of his.
17:42And he ensured through Saudis and his other sources that Mr. Nawaz Sharif had left the country.
17:51After that, the return of Respected Benazir Bhutto in Pakistan,
17:58the famous book of Cornelisa Rice is available.
18:01In it, all the things of Chapter Wise are available,
18:04how the Americans talked to them,
18:08then used our British friends,
18:14and a deal was locked.
18:15That deal did not go through later, but a deal was locked.
18:19So, the interest of the Americans has been present at some level in the past.
18:25And even now, suppose,
18:26if the Americans express their desire for something,
18:30President or the establishment or the White House,
18:33then it has an effect in Pakistan and there are very clear reasons for it.
18:37You know that the majority of the civilian bureaus in Pakistan are full-brighters.
18:44After that, our Khaki Bureau is trained in Leavenworth, Kansas.
18:55So, our DNA is such that when we look towards the West, towards America,
18:59So, Mr. Khawaja, I will stop you here,
19:02because it is time for the headlines,
19:03you are saying that if there is an expression of desire from there,
19:06then it will be fulfilled here.
19:07Will there be an expression of desire or not?
19:09And if there is, why will there be?
19:10Why would they be so kind to the PTI?
19:14In our past, there is an example of Mr. Bhutto,
19:18when everyone came to Mr. Zia and said,
19:20please leave Bhutto, he didn't leave him.
19:23So, what kind of disagreement is this?
19:24Mr. Musharraf's personal disagreement with Nawaz Sharif is not so much,
19:27he didn't agree to that extent, so he did it at the behest of the Saudis.
19:30Mr. Zia didn't leave Mr. Bhutto at the behest of the rest.
19:33So, what kind of a matter is this here?
19:34So, let's talk about this.
19:35And then we will talk to the rest of the people in the American elections.
19:38After a break, news headlines and then we will come back.