📢 LAUDELINA, TÍA DE LOAN: "ME DIERON UNA ZAPATILLA SOLA PARA PLANTAR"
👉 El traslado de Laudelina a otro centro penitenciario ha generado controversia. Mientras las autoridades argumentan que se trata de una medida para garantizar su seguridad, hay quienes cuestionan esta versión y sospechan que puede haber motivos ocultos detrás.
"Me dijeron que llevaban a Loan al hospital"
"Pérez metió a Loan en la caja de la camioneta"
"Caillava iba a avisar que atropelló a Loan"
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👉 El traslado de Laudelina a otro centro penitenciario ha generado controversia. Mientras las autoridades argumentan que se trata de una medida para garantizar su seguridad, hay quienes cuestionan esta versión y sospechan que puede haber motivos ocultos detrás.
"Me dijeron que llevaban a Loan al hospital"
"Pérez metió a Loan en la caja de la camioneta"
"Caillava iba a avisar que atropelló a Loan"
👉 Seguí en #QuienCuandoDonde #QCD
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00:00They took Adelina out of the place because her life was in danger.
00:04And not because she wanted to self-inflict an injury.
00:08They had some data, evidently...
00:11And they couldn't make that situation worse.
00:13You had to transfer her, take her away from her lawyer.
00:16I say, I don't know, it's fine.
00:17It's true that you're right.
00:18Here, for example, they are far away from their clients.
00:20They can't...
00:21They communicate by phone.
00:22That the maximum security prison of Ezeiza can't protect a lady like Adelina.
00:27I sometimes...
00:28I resist everything.
00:29To give theories as given, as proven.
00:32That's our nature, to question.
00:34But they tell you.
00:35Hey, for security reasons, we move her.
00:39For security reasons?
00:40Can't we provide security to a prisoner?
00:43I'm not asking you to have five people dedicated exclusively to her.
00:47But are we going to admit from the state that she can't be provided with security?
00:51Is that the real reason?
00:53Or is it another one and they don't mask it that way?
00:56It's improbable.
00:57Let's see, a lot of people are writing to us because this audio that we are showing you
01:00had a lot of repercussion.
01:02Because at the moment there is in Goya a statement of a police officer
01:07with the last name Torres, who was a collaborator of Héctor Rodríguez,
01:14who is the chief of the law...
01:16Chief of complex crimes.
01:18Complex.
01:19Of the current press.
01:20All this is happening today.
01:22Let's listen to these audios that we anticipate here in Quimando 2.
01:25Listen.
01:52The phone is ringing.
01:53It's telling me that Juan is missing.
01:56That he came.
01:57Yes, he came.
01:58And he braked in that curve when he was going to the door.
02:03Where was the door?
02:04And where were you when...
02:06I was in that curve on the road.
02:09How many meters more or less did he say?
02:11He was 200, 200 and something.
02:15So everything, El Chucho, Montes, you saw the place.
02:20Now everything is down because there are so many vehicles.
02:26There he braked, he got out.
02:28The couple got out.
02:29And the lady came back.
02:32And he got out and opened the box of the truck.
02:37For me, he put him there.
02:38She told me that she was going to take him to the hospital
02:41and that she would notify the police.
02:42And that she would keep looking.
02:44I thought that when she got to the police station,
02:46to the hospital, she would notify them.
02:48I was pretending to look for her and she gave me a shoe.
02:51And she went with you?
02:53She went with me to the house.
02:57And what did you see when you arrived at your house?
03:00The house was full of people.
03:03They were there with nothing.
03:05And how many shoes did she give you?
03:06One.
03:07Just one?
03:08The only thing I want is for her to tell me the truth.
03:14Well, there we heard Lauderina again.
03:17A shoe.
03:18It was clearly Logan's shoe.
03:20The truth is that it has similarity,
03:22except that later she said that all this was a lie.
03:26Otherwise, if you keep this picture as a story,
03:28it would seem that it could be what happened there.
03:31Here she doesn't talk about an accident.
03:33She talks about how she sees that they pick him up,
03:35that they take him to the box.
03:37She always supposes.
03:38She supposes.
03:39I say now, she supposes.
03:40The box of the truck, the back part,
03:42was looking at her.
03:43The trunk of the truck was facing forward
03:46because they were leaving the field.
03:48So how does she suppose it?
03:50Did she see it or not?
03:51Was it covered by the boy, by the body of the ex-ship?
03:57Yes.
03:58Now, as at some point she saw little
04:01and at some point she remembered that she saw more.
04:04Because we can make the game of the seven differences.
04:07When I was little, we told the millennials,
04:09there were games that gave you two drawings
04:12and you had to find the seven differences.
04:14Sometimes seven, sometimes more, sometimes less.
04:16So it is interesting to this statement that she gives,
04:20or it is a story that she makes without knowing
04:22that they are recording it,
04:23to compare it to what she says
04:25when she sits in front of a prosecutor.
04:27Prosecutor Rovino.
04:28Let's listen and I'll give it to Jorge
04:30to analyze this situation.
04:31Let's listen to the statement of Laudelina
04:33with Prosecutor Provincial Rovino.
04:37And what did he see there?
04:39And there I saw that the man picked up the boy
04:41in the box of the back truck
04:43and she went to where I was.
04:45To what boy?
04:46To Lohan.
04:50And she went to where I was and told me that ...
04:52Are you sure it was Lohan?
04:54Yes, it was Lohan.
04:55That boy?
04:56That boy was Lohan.
04:57How was the boy?
04:58In what condition was he?
04:59He was like, passed out.
05:02You say he was 100 meters?
05:04150, more or less, with the curve that was like that.
05:07But you say that the grass is high,
05:09that you can't see ...
05:11You can't see.
05:12And how did you see that it was Lohan, 100 meters away?
05:17Because I left and she came towards me and told me that ...
05:20Did she get closer then?
05:21Yes.
05:22Was she closer?
05:23Yes.
05:24She told me that she was taking him to the hospital.
05:26And Lohan did not recognize him because he saw his face,
05:28he saw the clothes ...
05:29Because his clothes were all black.
05:31He had black shirts and black pants.
05:36Did you talk then?
05:38Or did you talk to ...?
05:40With Mrs. Victoria.
05:44And what exactly did Mrs. Victoria tell you?
05:47She told me that she was taking him to the hospital
05:49and that she had called the police.
05:52That she didn't say anything and that she was still looking.
05:55That she didn't say anything and that she was still looking.
05:57Yes.
06:00Well, we listened to Laudelina in both audios,
06:03similar, nothing more than in this case,
06:05in the other she said,
06:06I guess it was Lohan,
06:08and here she describes Lohan's clothes,
06:10as if they put him in the truck.
06:13The truth, likewise,
06:14as this woman later said that all this was a lie,
06:17we have the doubt,
06:18but if you read it like that
06:20and you don't know it's a lie and everything,
06:22it's plausible.
06:23Tell me, Jorge.
06:24It's terrible,
06:25but I remember the day you interviewed Kodasi,
06:28he was here with his lawyer,
06:30and I remember that he said,
06:32he is in some lagoon,
06:33on some way to the lagoon.
06:35How do you contradict this story?
06:37Because if they took him to the hospital,
06:39how did he know he was in some lagoon?
06:41Because he didn't show up.
06:42Because they never went to the hospital.
06:43Because they never went to the hospital.
06:44In fact, they went to the hospital.
06:45Well, but from the hospital to the lagoon.
06:47It was 11 at night.
06:48From the hospital to the lagoon,
06:49there is a long stretch.
06:51Remember that I said from the beginning,
06:53the first hours Lohan was on July 9.
06:56There was no doubt.
06:57It is impossible, it is impossible,
06:58not to bring up Kodasion again.
07:00That immediately afterwards,
07:02a day later,
07:03this is the image, look at the night,
07:05the same night,
07:06Kayaba supposedly with a cough attack,
07:09arrives, handles Perez,
07:11Kayaba gets off,
07:13there we see her,
07:14so she enters,
07:15she doesn't take Lohan with her,
07:18or at least you don't see her,
07:19there, look,
07:20there Kayaba gets off,
07:22supposedly in the middle of a cough attack,
07:24although there were witnesses who said
07:25that she never coughed.
07:26Perez stays in the truck,
07:28while he re-adjusts,
07:29different,
07:30then to leave.
07:31And then there is a key element, Bobby,
07:33in the middle of all this circumstance,
07:34which is what ends up
07:36finally causing many suspicions,
07:38because it ends up,
07:40it ends up warning the commissioner,
07:42look, we are not going to resistance.
07:45How many theories about this,
07:46forgive me, about this moment,
07:48how many theories,
07:49because it is,
07:50since it was assumed that at some point
07:52there was a maneuver in which
07:54they could have left Lohan,
07:55and we reviewed,
07:56do you remember,
07:57the book of guards,
07:58of acts,
07:59we reviewed the ages of the boys
08:01who were understood before,
08:02at what time,
08:03others believe,
08:04no, they are simply wanting to show themselves,
08:06they are wanting to do
08:07as they do normal life,
08:08that they have no inconvenience,
08:10making quarters,
08:11showing themselves in the town,
08:12that there is a record
08:14that they are there
08:15doing a normal life.
08:17Others,
08:18others have other theories,
08:21they have the boy in captivity,
08:23and they went to look for medicine,
08:25it has been said,
08:26to try to give him
08:27some kind of attention
08:29in an area that is not
08:31a public place,
08:32such as the hospital,
08:33that is,
08:34there were all kinds of theories
08:35about that moment.
08:36Well,
08:37all the theories that
08:38overshadowed the case,
08:39look,
08:40the images above,
08:41on the right,
08:42are those of the couple
08:43in resistance,
08:44a day after the disappearance
08:45of Nelson,
08:46while they are protagonists
08:47of the case.
08:48For me,
08:49that moment is key,
08:50because they took Lohan,
08:52they gave him to someone,
08:54because Lohan cannot disappear,
08:56the theory of the accident
08:58was erased,
08:59because they found
09:00absolutely nothing,
09:01and as Dr. Hanson said,
09:03if they had taken
09:04the theory of the accident,
09:06they would all be free.
09:07But I ask you again,
09:08what happens if the accident
09:10is something they told
09:11the others,
09:12to pretend
09:13they were kidnapping the boy?
09:14Well,
09:15that's why I tell you,
09:16I think more
09:17that they took him,
09:18if not,
09:19we would be
09:20in a crazy country.
09:21Look,
09:22we all talk about accidents,
09:23that Codazzi says accident,
09:25but the public does not
09:26listen to what he says.
09:27Look,
09:28if you look at the networks today,
09:29there are a lot of cases,
09:30I was looking at a few
09:31from the Demo show,
09:32that they release people
09:33who are drunk,
09:34drunk,
09:35thousands of kilometers away,
09:36they killed people,
09:37in the street too,
09:38a businessman,
09:39and they released him,
09:40do you know why?
09:41Guilty homicide.
09:42After three months,
09:43he is out.
09:44Well,
09:45now we go there
09:46with more information
09:47about events
09:48that are also happening
09:49in Goya,
09:50yesterday,
09:51today,
09:52but do you want to hear
09:53what Codazzi told us
09:54about this theory?
09:55The end,
09:56of the theory.
09:57And a mysterious meeting.
09:58A meeting.
09:59A mysterious meeting,
10:00which is what
10:01worried us a lot that day.
10:02Especially.
10:03As if there had been
10:04a conclave
10:05in which several
10:06of the competitors
10:07participated
10:08in that famous lunch
10:09and a relative.
10:10As it is,
10:11as it is.
10:12Let's listen to what
10:13José Codazzi said
10:14here with us.
10:15The marriage returns
10:16and they had
10:17a family meeting there.
10:18And with that I leave you.
10:19The marriage returns
10:20and they had
10:21a family meeting there.
10:22And with that I leave you.
10:23The marriage returns
10:24and they sit down
10:25and they have
10:26a private meeting
10:27between them.
10:28After supposedly
10:29having run over Nene?
10:30When they run over him later,
10:31they leave,
10:32there are communications.
10:33With the excuse
10:34that he returns,
10:35he says that he was silent
10:36because he had forgotten
10:37his wallet.
10:38And to look for Nene?
10:39No.
10:40When he returns,
10:41I give you this key information
10:42that is true.
10:43When he returns,
10:44they have a mini
10:45family meeting there.
10:46The marriage
10:47with all the relatives.
10:48With all the relatives.
10:49Do you know
10:50what they told him there?
10:51No.
10:52That he was silent.
10:53So, when they are all,
10:54it's all.
10:55All.
10:56Because, let's say,
10:57who sees the photos sitting.
10:58Jose, Laudelina.
10:59All,
11:00Dad, Grandma,
11:01Laudelina, Camilla.
11:02Mom too?
11:03All.
11:04No, no.
11:05Maria wasn't there.
11:06No, no.
11:07No, no.
11:08The mother is out
11:09of all of this.
11:10So, that is,
11:11Jose was also in that meeting
11:12with the pre-marriage
11:13that he was throwing.
11:14But yes,
11:15I tell you one thing,
11:16Pablo.
11:17Something that becomes
11:18certain protagonists
11:19of this crime
11:20because it has
11:21directo de los menores.
11:22Lo dice el Código Civil.
11:24Bueno.
11:25A ver, pero.
11:26Bueno, ahí escuchábamos a José Codazzi decir que después de
11:29toda esta secuencia, una vez que regresan y le dan el botín,
11:36supuestamente estamos hablando, ¿no?
11:37Según la versión de esta gente, le dan el botín a Lauderina,
11:42simulan que buscan, y se meten en la casa en una reunión.
11:47Recordemos que antes estuvo 12 minutos Pérez con uno de los
11:50chicos de Lauderina.
11:52Y resulta que en esos minutos posteriores,
11:55se habría conformado un pacto de silencio, de no decir nada,
12:00hasta que Loan se recupere en el hospital.
12:04Sin embargo, nunca fue a ningún hospital Loan.
12:07No.
12:07No hay registro del paso del chico por ningún hospital de
12:09la zona.
12:10No sabemos qué hicieron con él, porque si hubo un accidente,
12:14no hay ninguna huella tampoco.
12:16Ahora, insisto, y si no fue un accidente,
12:19y eso fue una escenografía o la reconstrucción de una escena
12:25para finalmente cubrir otra cosa,
12:27que les diera tiempo, por ejemplo,
12:29para ir a resistencia.
12:30Bueno, son un montón de preguntas.
12:32Pablo, no quiero dejar pasar algo, lo digo rapidito.
12:35Qué terrible, ¿no?
12:35Que una abogada diga que según el Código Civil,
12:39los responsables son los padres.
12:40O sea, te secuestran a tu hijo, te lo captan, te lo llevan,
12:43te lo matan, y vos sos el responsable.
12:45Qué barbaridad.
12:46No, pero a mí me llama la atención que José nunca haya
12:48dicho, me llama la atención, y lo hablábamos hoy con Bobby,
12:52que José nunca haya dicho nada de esta reunión.
12:55Porque esta reunión, a quien está buscando la verdad,
13:00le hace ruido.
13:01Y si tuviste esta reunión, ya se lo hubieses comentado a la
13:03justicia.
13:04Con reunión o sin reunión, que haya habido algún pacto de
13:08silencio, y yo a esta altura, cinco meses después,
13:10no tengo dudas, ¿eh?
13:11No tengo pruebas, pero tampoco tengo dudas.
13:14Ahora, que dentro de eso esté colocado el padre,
13:18yo me voy a resistir hasta último momento.
13:22No puedo creer, y de hecho, no lo creo.
13:24No creo que haya sido así, que el padre haya participado de
13:28semejante encuentro, de semejante cónclave.
13:30Los otros, puede ser.
13:32La abuela Catalina, ¿o te parece?
13:34A ver, vamos con el corte de Macarena y la zapatilla, ¿eh?
13:37Es un dato clave, porque la zapatilla, evidentemente,
13:41la puso la udelina, o por lo menos ella se hizo cargo.
13:44Frente al comisario Rodríguez, también frente a Robinó,
13:49y después dijo que todo era mentira.
13:51A ver, escuchemos.
13:53Llegamos al lugar con mi mamá y dos señoras más,
13:57y pasamos así de adelante estaban las pisadas de él.
14:01Nosotros pasamos hacia atrás.
14:02¿Las pisadas de quién?
14:03Las pisadas de las criaturas que el comisario ya estuvo ahí
14:07adelante.
14:08Pasamos atrás y las cuatro empezamos a buscar.
14:10Yo con un palo hacía así hasta que sentía algo duro.
14:14Y ahí es que me meto al barro y encuentro ese calzado.
14:18¿Dónde estaba el comisario Maciel?
14:19Ahí adelante nuestro.
14:21¿Con quién?
14:22Con un ex policía.
14:23Él ya había estado ahí, y ahí volvemos a ver con quién.
14:25No quiero dejar pasar eso.
14:27¿El comisario ya había estado en esas pisadas?
14:29Sí, cuando nosotros llegamos al lugar, sí, ya estaba él.
14:32Pero ahora sí, ehm...
14:33Llegan y ya estaba el comisario Maciel con Méndez,
14:36el ex comisario.
14:37¿Quién más va con vos?
14:39Mi mamá y dos señoras más.
14:42¿Las cuatro se ponen a buscar?
14:43Sí, las cuatro buscan.
14:45¿Méndez y Maciel?
14:46No, ellos estaban adelante.
14:48¿Estaban mirando como ustedes buscaban?
14:51¿Hablaban con alguien por teléfono o algo?
14:54Sí, el comisario habló por teléfono cuando ya se encontró
14:57las zapatillas.
14:58Y cuando yo le saqué la foto, me dijo que no se la enviara
15:01a nadie para no crear falsas expectativas.
15:04Recién una persona nos dijo que en ese momento,
15:06después de encontrar el botín, tu mamá recibe un llamado.
15:08¿Eso es verdad?
15:09No, no puedo confirmar eso.
15:12El que hizo el llamado sí es el comisario.
15:15¿Y recordás que habló Maciel?
15:18No, no escuché la conversación de él.
15:20¿Nada de esa conversación?
15:21Hizo un llamado, sí, pero no sé nada de lo que dijo.
15:24Porque nosotros nos retiramos del lugar porque supuestamente
15:27iban a apelitar eso.
15:28El abogado nos dice que como entre tantas personas que
15:32buscaron, justamente nosotras íbamos a ir a encontrar.
15:35¿Qué abogado?
15:36Cosa así.
15:37Mi mamá creo que yo desconocía totalmente que iba a quedar
15:40detenida porque le dijo que llevara unas ropitas.
15:44Ella habrá pensado que declaraba y le llevaban a un hotel o
15:47alguna cosa porque él nos prometió la libertad.
15:51La situación del botín y todo presionó para que nosotros nos
15:56sintamos así con miedo.
15:57Las pisadas esas, ese jueves ya se habían encontrado.
16:02Otras personas habían encontrado.
16:04Y si no me equivoco, se habían comunicado con alguien de la
16:06policía y no les habían creído que podría ser del OAM porque
16:11era lejano el lugar.
16:12Entonces, al día siguiente, mi mamá se va con otras personas
16:16a verificar si esto era cierto.
16:18Y ahí estaban las pisadas.
16:20Y ahí es donde que otras personas que andaban a caballo se
16:22le envían al vice intendente de acá.
16:25Le mandan la foto.
16:26La foto de que había eso ahí.
16:28¿Podés reconocer a todas esas personas?
16:29¿Las conociste? ¿Las cruzaste?
16:31No, en ese momento cuando mi mamá encuentra las pisadas,
16:34yo no estaba con ella.
16:35Ella andaba con otras personas.
16:36Todo esto ya sabe la justicia.
16:41Macarena encuentra un botín plantado por su madre junto a
16:46su madre, dos vecinas más y el comisario Maciel por ahí, ¿no?
16:48Sí, yo quiero hacer un ejercicio.
16:49Fíjate dónde lo encuentra, ¿eh?
16:51Hay que encontrarlo.
16:52Te digo, en el medio del monte, en el medio del monte,
16:55inabarcable.
16:57Tenés que encontrar ahí.
16:58Pero la verdad, qué vista.
17:00Ahora, le quiero preguntar a Jorge, ¿no?
17:02Porque además de ser un hombre de una mirada aguda,
17:05es correntino.
17:06Además conoce esta latitude.
17:10¿La justicia, la jueza o quien sea, la investigación,
17:14realmente cree a esta altura del partido que lo encontraron
17:19como dicen que lo encontraron?
17:21O sea, ¿les cree que espontáneamente buscando,
17:25como estarían buscando tantos otros, al nene,
17:27no el botín, al nene, encuentran un botín?
17:31¿Realmente les cree?
17:32Porque si no les creen, ¿cómo está libre?
17:35Yo creo.
17:35¿Cómo está libre?
17:36¿Quién me lo responde eso?
17:38Igualmente, ahora responde.
17:39Pero digo, yo creo que nadie cree en nada, ¿eh?
17:42Yo creo que la justicia no cree en nada.
17:44Si nos está mintiendo descaradamente,
17:46¿por qué no está presa?
17:47Yo creo que el que conoce Corrientes sabe muy bien que
17:52en Corrientes la policía hace todo tipo de dibujos.
17:56Y nunca pensaron que el caso Loa iba a levantar un alfombre
18:01y encontrar esta basura que estamos viendo.
18:03Pero la gente de Corrientes sabe que esto es así.
18:05Por eso, repito, repito, la policía de Corrientes
18:08hacía lo que quería.
18:10Y creyeron que podían hacer eso también.
18:11Y esta gente, no me van a hacer creer,
18:13ni que Laudelina, ni su marido, ni la abuela Catalina,
18:17que quizás tengan que ver con el caso,
18:19pueden tener a Loa en 150 días desaparecido.
18:22No me lo van a hacer creer.
18:23Si muchos otros entorpecieron y pagaron la consecuencia
18:28de para la justicia hoy en su mirada haber entorpecido,
18:30haber desviado, haber gastado recursos de búsqueda
18:34de la justicia, hipótesis de trabajo,
18:37y los tiene algunos muy comprometidos y algunos presos
18:42como alguien, porque si no le tenemos que creer que
18:44realmente lo encontró como dice que lo encontró,
18:46con un palito y en el medio de la nada.
18:48Y entretanto muchos otros que habían buscado y ella lo
18:51encontró.
18:52Si realmente le creemos, bueno, está bien, listo,
18:55cerramos ahí la mesa cuatro.
18:56Me parece que nadie creía mucho en eso.
18:58Si no le creen, ¿por qué los otros están presos y esta no?
19:01Yo no quiero que vaya preso nadie si no tiene razón de ser.
19:05Pero, ¿por qué si realmente lo plantaron?
19:08No es cualquier elemento.
19:10Es el botín que tuvo Lenito puesto hasta que desapareció
19:13de la vista del mundo, de la faz de la tierra.
19:15Y no se lo tragó la tierra ni se lo llevó un ovni.
19:18Entonces, si esta chica nos está mintiendo y le está mintiendo
19:21a la justicia, ¿por qué está libre?
19:23No lo puedo entender.
19:26Rapidito, ¿por qué la comisaría, los policías que actuaron en
19:30el, al comienzo estoy hablando, ¿por qué no fueron
19:32investigados?
19:33¿Por qué no rodearon la comisaría en aquel momento?